List your most promising alternate monarchs

Richard as a name for British kings is also out, for the connotation with Richard III.

I'd also be interested in Friedrich III of Germany, or Isabel I of Brazil, liberator of the slaves, or HREmperor Konradin (the last Staufer heir), or queen Jane of England.
 

Thande

Donor
Richard as a name for British kings is also out, for the connotation with Richard III.
Possibly. On the other hand there is a fairly large movement that believes he was misrepresented by Shakespeare...he's the only historical English king to have his own fan club :D

And more people think of Richard the Lionheart when they hear 'King Richard' rather than Richard III.
 

oberdada

Gone Fishin'
It would have been interesting if Prinz Max von Baden had become Reichsverweser of the German Reich in 1918.

That's what Friedrich Ebert wanted.. but Max von Baden didn't want the Job, and I was probably already to late for that on November 9th.
 
Bumping this thread for pinging 100% on the interestometer.

ATL monarchs? How about Henry VIII dying before Mary is born?
 

Thande

Donor
Bumping this thread for pinging 100% on the interestometer.

ATL monarchs? How about Henry VIII dying before Mary is born?

Holy thread Nekromansy!

Looking back, I realise how this thread gave me quite a few ideas for LTTW...
 
Holy thread Nekromansy!

Looking back, I realise how this thread gave me quite a few ideas for LTTW...

Yes, I performed the threatened Thread Trawl, and quite a number seemed strangely familiar - no miracle of the House of Brandenburg, a battle of the Vend(é)e, Frederick survives, a War of the British Succession (from George II, nonetheless)... you've been planning this for a while, haven't you?
 

Thande

Donor
Yes, I performed the threatened Thread Trawl, and quite a number seemed strangely familiar - no miracle of the House of Brandenburg, a battle of the Vend(é)e, Frederick survives, a War of the British Succession (from George II, nonetheless)... you've been planning this for a while, haven't you?

It's called Stealth Research - I believe you're familiar with it ;)

Best to weed out all the naysayers on each individual POD, and make corrections, than to wheel them out all at once in a new TL and have them all descend on your arse.
 
It's called Stealth Research - I believe you're familiar with it ;)

I am? :confused: Confused is me... I don't remember doing anything like that.

Best to weed out all the naysayers on each individual POD, and make corrections, than to wheel them out all at once in a new TL and have them all descend on your arse.

Oh, indeed, but I was just impressed by the long-term planning so alien in nature to me.
 

Susano

Banned
And more people think of Richard the Lionheart when they hear 'King Richard' rather than Richard III.
Not that this is any better seeing how he depleted teh English treasury without any gain...

Okay, here we go again:
Henry VIII., Holy Roman Emperor. Nephew to Otto IV, the only Welf HRE, who in this ATL has won over Frederick IIs claims. Though, of course, in that case he probably wouldve come around to fatehr children on his own...

Alternatively, Philip I, Holy Roman Emperor, Otto IVs initial Staufen opponent until he was murdered by a Wittelsbach. Really, anything to avoid Frederick II!
 
His Majesty, by the Grace of God, King Edward VII. The OTL George III was born 2 months premature and suffered from some minor preemie complications. His brother, Edward Augustus was born 10 months later (had George been full term Edward would not have existed). Had George died, Edward would have become king in 1760.
 

Thande

Donor
Not that this is any better seeing how he depleted teh English treasury without any gain...

Well, he's a sun king, like Louis XIV, or Edward III and Henry VIII are other ones here. It doesn't matter how badly they screw up the finances or didn't gain anything in wars: if they're jolly and charismatic, that's all that people remember.
 
Prompted by having the Black Prince survive, just to have some new names in the sytem, how about some of his brothers:


King Lionel I: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_of_Antwerp,_1st_Duke_of_Clarence

King Edmund I: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_of_Langley,_1st_Duke_of_York

King Thomas I: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_of_Woodstock,_1st_Duke_of_Gloucester


The second two would have to be successful in a rebellion - not out of the question - but Lionel could have got the crown with only a couple of flaps of a butterfly's wing
 
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