UNited states overspends during WW2 And as a result cannot afford to lend Europe any cash in 1949
Have you heard of a man name John Maynard Keynes? Planned Deficit Spending?
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Have you heard of a man name John Maynard Keynes? Planned Deficit Spending?
pacifichistorian
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Nice idea, but AFAIK impossible, because the rivers were impassable before June.
Two points, though.
First, most of the Japanese planes werent Zeroes...
And yes, the British would try dogfighting, but with a decent air force would change tactics when it obviously didnt work. Just like the US did....
pacifichistorian
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Ah, but the initial encounter would be, & AAF had to get past Zero escort. Later, I freely acknowledge things change.
burmafrd
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A Spitfire was one whole lot more maneuverable then a Hurricane or P 40. So an experienced pilot should have a chance pretty quickly to see what he can and cannot do.
A lot of this would also depend on the Squadron Leaders. If you have good ones they would prepare their pilots by telling them that its very possible that you will be fighting planes that can out turn you or out climb you; but you are better armed and armored and can out run and out dive them.
A lot of this would also depend on the Squadron Leaders. If you have good ones they would prepare their pilots by telling them that its very possible that you will be fighting planes that can out turn you or out climb you; but you are better armed and armored and can out run and out dive them.
pacifichistorian
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ASB. The Allies were completely unprepared. (The Germans weren't in great shape, either, but the Allies couldn't know that...
)Lo probability. France was incapable of it, nor inclined, & the Brits were ready to sell out Poland to keep the peace.
Hmm... Lo probability, tho.
ASB. Set phasers on stun?
ASB. With help from the Klingons?
ASB. With help from the Romulans?
ASB. France was incapable of it, nor inclined, & the Brits were ready to sell out Poland to keep the peace.
Probably the most likely of these. It is, of course, a disaster for Germany...
(Not great for Italy, either.)ASB. Jem'Hadar?
Slim chance, but probably the 2d most likely of these. It is, of course, a disaster for Japan...
Finns win?
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No one said that good consequences have to result from possible points of divergence.
You state this twice. One wonders why in OTL they did not, eh.
You asked this in reply to a proposal about a Polish attack in East Prussia. Could you define "attack"? Any violation of German territory in East Prussia would qualify, and thus require Klingon help?
The point I was trying to make was that if they'd had a decent amount of planes, they'd have had the time (before they all got shot down) to see what they were doing wrong and correct it. As it was, the airforce was so weak they never got much of a chance to learn from their mistakes before they were worn away
pacifichistorian
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OTL, the Germans beat them to it by attacking.
Pretty much, 'cause if the Poles started something, anything, the German'd stomp 'em flat without hardly raising a sweat, same as OTL.
OTL, the Germans beat them to it by attacking.
Yeah. And if the British were so keen on selling out the Poles, why didn't they do that after Germany had subdued them? Or straight away on September 2, by not declaring war on Germany?
Pretty much, 'cause if the Poles started something, anything, the German'd stomp 'em flat without hardly raising a sweat, same as OTL.
Then I'm sorry to inform you that the Polish troops did enter East Prussia in OTL on September 2-3, with the Podlaska Cavalry Brigade, and they were not supported by Klingons.
pacifichistorian
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I imagine it had something to do with the invasion...
Yes, & look what happened to Poland.
So in the end they did not do what you say they wanted to do. Doesn't this makes you wonder whether you haven't got it wrong, then.
The point was that it did not take ASBs or Klingons to see Polish troops on German territory. It is one thing to say that a given behavior is not actually useful to the party carrying it out, it is another thing to say that it requires ASB intervention to happen.
I think you are refering to the USN aviator that was the co-pilot on the Catalina that found the Bismark in the North Atlantic after the sinking of the Hood
The key POD to preventing WWII in Europe (at least the WWII we know) was the failure of the French to react to the entry German of troops into the Rheinland. While not (edited in) guarantied to cause the fall of the Hitler government it does open the possibilty
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April, 1917.
The Germans come to their senses and throw Lenin off the train.
He never makes it to Russia to lead the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War, and as a result they lose.
No Communist revolutionary government in Russia. No Soviet Union to make secret deals with Hitler 15-20 years later.
Fast forward to 1938. Germany has still lost WW1. Hitler still ends up rising to power. But when he gambles on war over the Sudetenland in 1938, he loses....the Czechs are ready and willing to defend themselves, backed up by a sane Russian government and their French allies.
The loss in the so-called "Sudetan War" triggers a revolt against Hitler. He is removed from power and World War 2 never happens.
The Germans come to their senses and throw Lenin off the train.
He never makes it to Russia to lead the Bolsheviks in the Russian Civil War, and as a result they lose.
No Communist revolutionary government in Russia. No Soviet Union to make secret deals with Hitler 15-20 years later.
Fast forward to 1938. Germany has still lost WW1. Hitler still ends up rising to power. But when he gambles on war over the Sudetenland in 1938, he loses....the Czechs are ready and willing to defend themselves, backed up by a sane Russian government and their French allies.
The loss in the so-called "Sudetan War" triggers a revolt against Hitler. He is removed from power and World War 2 never happens.
pacifichistorian
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Maybe we disagree on what's ASB, then. I thought the idea was to have a hope of succeeding?