List of monarchs III

[wwbgdiaslt]

What If Mary, Queen of Scots, dies in childbirth in 1566, and Scotland remains independent from England to the present.

Monarchs of Scotland
1542 to 1566 : Mary (House of Stewart)
1566 to 1575 : James VI (House of Hamilton) (1)
1575 to 1604 : John II (House of Hamilton) (2)
1604 to 1626 : Robert IV (House of Hamilton) (3)
1626 to 1648 : Ulrich (House of Hamilton-Ross) (4)

Spoiler: James VI to Robert IV

(1) For many years, the Earl of Arran had been next in line to Mary and acted as her Regent until he had been replaced by Marie of Guise. Variously Protestant and Catholic as the situation required, he tried to marry his eldest son first to Elizabeth of England, and then Mary of Scotland herself. Neither succeeded. In 1566 he intended to retire to France and petition the French King to return his confiscated Duchy of Chatellerault, but the news of Mary's death and his own succession as King of Scotland precluded that.

James faced opposition from the Earl of Lennox who sought support from the Scottish Parliament to overthrow James and have himself crowned as King Matthew of Scotland. This failed. Both had legitimate claims, but Arrans was deemed more senior, Lennox attempted to claim the King was illegitimate, but this merely went over ground that has been discarded in challenges towards his earlier regency.

By the time of his succession, James was married and a father of nine, the eldest of which, James, would have been made Duke of Rothesay but had been declared legally insane in 1560, so whilst James lived and would outlive his father, he was legally manipulated into abdication and the heir designate was made the new Kings second son, John, twenty six, but as yet unmarried. The King sought a continental match for John, and several offers were made, with one being accepted.

Similar offers were made for the King's other two unmarried sons, David and Claud, as all his daughters were already married and a fifth son had died in infancy.

The King would die after only nine years on the throne whilst on a summer retreat to Hamilton Castle in Lanarkshire, and would be succeeded by his son, John.

(2) Though John was the second son of James VI he became heir to the throne over his elder brother due to him being found insane. John began his reign as King of Scotland with relative ease and nothing of note came until 4 years into it when James Douglas, 4th Earl of Morton, accused the king and his younger brother, Claud, of being part of the murders of high level nobility however these claims were thrown out due to him being the king. John also saw illiteracy was a problem in his kingdom and over the course of his reign he would found several grammar schools to solve this problem. John had also had the privilege to host the French ambassador at his estate in Hamilton where they became good friends which helped to improve relations with the Kingdom of France.

John would die in 1604 and would be succeeded by his son Robert.

(3) Robert was the second born son of John and his wife, Marguerite of Valois. His older brother James died as an infant so Robert, born in 1577 was raised with the knowledge that he would one day be king. He married his distant cousin, Arabella Stewart, the heir of her father, Charles, the 5th Earl of Lennox. This would also tie up dynastic loose ends. The couple would have five children.

In 1603, Robert would travel to London to attend the coronation of King Edward VII, successor to Elizabeth I. Although Arabella, descendant of King Henry VII, had already signed away her claims to the English throne, the new King Edward wanted to strengthen his dynasty's claim. He did so by requesting the marriage between his son Edward, and Robert's daughter Margaret.

While waiting for permission from his father, Robert enjoyed being the guest in the English court. Despite being an ardent Catholic, he was a moderate and saw sense in keeping the pace between the religious factions. It was during his time in the English court did he write The True Law of Free Monarchies, that spoke of the divine rights of monarchs.
Once the negotiations concluded, Robert returned home to Scotland, pleased that peace had been obtained.

Five months after his return, the Duke of Rothesay received news of his father's death. In the spring of 1604, he was crowned as Robert the Fourth of Scots. He continued his father's polices. He also made his own court of poets and musicians, wanting to bring the renaissance to Scotland. He also created his own trading company, wishing to expand Scotland's wealth. He even commissioned a play by the English playwright, William Shakespeare, about his ancestor and namesake Robert the Bruce.

Robert's peaceful reign came to an abrupt end when in 1607, when the Earl of Tyrone come to the Scottish court, begging for help against the English aggression as the new King Edward was taking a even harder stance then his predecessors. Unfortunately, Robert could not break treaty he had with England, although he did offer sanctuary to the fleeing earls. This did not sit well with his English counterpart, who threatened to dissolve the childless marriage between his son and the princess Margaret if the earls were not sent to England to receive their judgement. Robert refused,, and called the other man's bluff.

While neither King Edward nor son followed through with the threat, tensions between Scotland and England grew tense, with many Scottish mercenaries supporting the Irish rebellion. The alliance was considered null and void when King Edward VII died in 1612, and Margaret of Scots died in 1615. Feeling that nothing was holding him back, Robert decided to attack Northumberland, successfully taking the castle of Alnwick from the Percys. His former son-in-law, King Edward VIII meet with him outside Newcastle with the force of the English troops. While the battle would end in a loss for the Scottish, Robert managed to fatefully wound the monarch before retreating back to Scotland. Despite loosing, Robert felt he had struck a blow to the English, avenging his royal ancestors.

The rest of his rule was largly made up of training his troops and seeking out new ventures. He would die of typhoid fever in 1626, leaving his throne to______.

(4) Ulrich of Scotland was heir to Scotland following both the male line and by male preference primogeniture, the former as he descended from James VI via his third son, David, Duke of Ross, who had married Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gustrow, and the latter as he was the grandson of Robert IV by his second daughter, Arabella, Duchess of Ross, following the death of the childless Margaret of England a decade earlier. Born in 1612 and devoid of siblings, his father, Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross, had arranged his match with Agnes of Brandenburg as one of the last wishes of his dying mother, Arabella of Scotland. The pair would marry in 1628, two years after Ulrich succeeded his grandfather as King - the pair only had one child, who survived to adulthood and who was married and had a child shortly before Ulrich passed in 1648.

After the difficult relationship with England during his grandfather's reign, Ulrich endeavoured to create an enduring peace with their southern neighbours. But also strengthened Scotlands relationship with the Holy Roman Empire via his Mecklenburg-Gustrow and Brandenburg roots - his maternal aunt, Matilda, had married George William, Elector of Brandenburg, his own wife's elder brother. The Scottish Parliament feared that the Hohenzollern Brandenburgs were trying to climb their way onto the Scottish throne - but Scotland was a relatively poor nation in comparison to the Empire and continental trade partners. It became clear during Ulrich's reign that the intent of his uncle/brother-in-law, George, was to fund the development of Scotlands lacklustre colonial programme in order to compete with England's expansionist projects. The next phase of the Electors plan was to marry his son to Ulrichs daughter, creating a Scots-Brandenburg personal union.

But this would have meant that the family tree would have become uncomfortably cosanguinated, the children would be both first cousins (via George and Agnes) as well as first cousins once removed (via Ulrich and Matilda) and the Catholic voices in the Scottish Parliament were vocal about their opposition to the match, as was the elderly Claude, Duke of Albany (son of James VI's youngest son), so the Princess Royal was found another match, deemed more suitable.

George William would have to make do, for the time being, with the village of Garelochhead being renamed Royal Brandenburg and made one of Scotlands primary ports for colonisation efforts and trade.

Ulrich would die in 1548 to he succeeded by ........


James VI of Scotland, prev. 2nd Earl of Arran, b. 1515, r. 1566-1575, m. Margaret Douglas
-- a) James Hamilton, 3rd Earl of Arran, b. 1537, d. 1609
-- b) John II of Scotland, b. 1540, r. 1575-1604, m. Marguerite of Valois (1553-1615)

1) Prince James, d. pre 1577​

2) Robert IV of Scotland, b. 1577, r. 1604-1626, m. Arabella Stewart (1575-1616)​

-- a) Margaret, Queen of England, b. c. 1593, d. 1615, betrothed. 1603, m. 1609, Edward VIII of England (d. 1618)​

x) no surviving children​

-- b) Arabella of Scotland, b. 1595, d. 1620, m. Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross (1573 to 1625)​

1) Ulrich of Scotland, also 3rd Duke of Ross (1625 to 1626), 5th Earl of Arran (whilst King) b. 1612, r. 1626 to 1648, m. Agnes of Brandenburg​

-- a) Daughter, b. 1628, m. c. 1646​

1) Child, b. 1647​

-- c) Matilda of Scotland, b. 1598, m. George William, Elector of Brandenburg​

1) Son, b. c. 1619​

-- d) two other daughters of Robert IV​

-- c) Gavin, b. 1538, died in childhood
-- d) David, Duke of Ross, b. c. 1542, d. 1611, m. Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gustrow (1557 to 1631)

1) Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross, b. 1573, d. 1625, m2. Arabella of Scotland (1595 to 1620)​

-- x) for issue, see line of Arabella of Scotland​

-- e) five other children of James VI including Claude, Duke of Albany (Claude has a son, named Claude)

 

[Kynan]

What If Mary, Queen of Scots, dies in childbirth in 1566, and Scotland remains independent from England to the present.

Monarchs of Scotland
1542 to 1566 : Mary (House of Stewart)
1566 to 1575 : James VI (House of Hamilton) (1)
1575 to 1604 : John II (House of Hamilton) (2)
1604 to 1626 : Robert IV (House of Hamilton) (3)
1626 to 1648 : Ulrich (House of Hamilton-Ross) (4)
1648 to 1670: Claude (House of Hamilton-Albany) (5)

Spoiler: James VI to Robert IV

Spoiler: See Previous

(1) For many years, the Earl of Arran had been next in line to Mary and acted as her Regent until he had been replaced by Marie of Guise. Variously Protestant and Catholic as the situation required, he tried to marry his eldest son first to Elizabeth of England, and then Mary of Scotland herself. Neither succeeded. In 1566 he intended to retire to France and petition the French King to return his confiscated Duchy of Chatellerault, but the news of Mary's death and his own succession as King of Scotland precluded that.

James faced opposition from the Earl of Lennox who sought support from the Scottish Parliament to overthrow James and have himself crowned as King Matthew of Scotland. This failed. Both had legitimate claims, but Arrans was deemed more senior, Lennox attempted to claim the King was illegitimate, but this merely went over ground that has been discarded in challenges towards his earlier regency.

By the time of his succession, James was married and a father of nine, the eldest of which, James, would have been made Duke of Rothesay but had been declared legally insane in 1560, so whilst James lived and would outlive his father, he was legally manipulated into abdication and the heir designate was made the new Kings second son, John, twenty six, but as yet unmarried. The King sought a continental match for John, and several offers were made, with one being accepted.

Similar offers were made for the King's other two unmarried sons, David and Claud, as all his daughters were already married and a fifth son had died in infancy.

The King would die after only nine years on the throne whilst on a summer retreat to Hamilton Castle in Lanarkshire, and would be succeeded by his son, John.

(2) Though John was the second son of James VI he became heir to the throne over his elder brother due to him being found insane. John began his reign as King of Scotland with relative ease and nothing of note came until 4 years into it when James Douglas, 4th Earl of Morton, accused the king and his younger brother, Claud, of being part of the murders of high level nobility however these claims were thrown out due to him being the king. John also saw illiteracy was a problem in his kingdom and over the course of his reign he would found several grammar schools to solve this problem. John had also had the privilege to host the French ambassador at his estate in Hamilton where they became good friends which helped to improve relations with the Kingdom of France.

John would die in 1604 and would be succeeded by his son Robert.

(3) Robert was the second born son of John and his wife, Marguerite of Valois. His older brother James died as an infant so Robert, born in 1577 was raised with the knowledge that he would one day be king. He married his distant cousin, Arabella Stewart, the heir of her father, Charles, the 5th Earl of Lennox. This would also tie up dynastic loose ends. The couple would have five children.

In 1603, Robert would travel to London to attend the coronation of King Edward VII, successor to Elizabeth I. Although Arabella, descendant of King Henry VII, had already signed away her claims to the English throne, the new King Edward wanted to strengthen his dynasty's claim. He did so by requesting the marriage between his son Edward, and Robert's daughter Margaret.

While waiting for permission from his father, Robert enjoyed being the guest in the English court. Despite being an ardent Catholic, he was a moderate and saw sense in keeping the pace between the religious factions. It was during his time in the English court did he write The True Law of Free Monarchies, that spoke of the divine rights of monarchs.
Once the negotiations concluded, Robert returned home to Scotland, pleased that peace had been obtained.

Five months after his return, the Duke of Rothesay received news of his father's death. In the spring of 1604, he was crowned as Robert the Fourth of Scots. He continued his father's polices. He also made his own court of poets and musicians, wanting to bring the renaissance to Scotland. He also created his own trading company, wishing to expand Scotland's wealth. He even commissioned a play by the English playwright, William Shakespeare, about his ancestor and namesake Robert the Bruce.

Robert's peaceful reign came to an abrupt end when in 1607, when the Earl of Tyrone come to the Scottish court, begging for help against the English aggression as the new King Edward was taking a even harder stance then his predecessors. Unfortunately, Robert could not break treaty he had with England, although he did offer sanctuary to the fleeing earls. This did not sit well with his English counterpart, who threatened to dissolve the childless marriage between his son and the princess Margaret if the earls were not sent to England to receive their judgement. Robert refused,, and called the other man's bluff.

While neither King Edward nor son followed through with the threat, tensions between Scotland and England grew tense, with many Scottish mercenaries supporting the Irish rebellion. The alliance was considered null and void when King Edward VII died in 1612, and Margaret of Scots died in 1615. Feeling that nothing was holding him back, Robert decided to attack Northumberland, successfully taking the castle of Alnwick from the Percys. His former son-in-law, King Edward VIII meet with him outside Newcastle with the force of the English troops. While the battle would end in a loss for the Scottish, Robert managed to fatefully wound the monarch before retreating back to Scotland. Despite loosing, Robert felt he had struck a blow to the English, avenging his royal ancestors.

The rest of his rule was largly made up of training his troops and seeking out new ventures. He would die of typhoid fever in 1626, leaving his throne to______.

(4) Ulrich of Scotland was heir to Scotland following both the male line and by male preference primogeniture, the former as he descended from James VI via his third son, David, Duke of Ross, who had married Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gustrow, and the latter as he was the grandson of Robert IV by his second daughter, Arabella, Duchess of Ross, following the death of the childless Margaret of England a decade earlier. Born in 1612 and devoid of siblings, his father, Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross, had arranged his match with Agnes of Brandenburg as one of the last wishes of his dying mother, Arabella of Scotland. The pair would marry in 1628, two years after Ulrich succeeded his grandfather as King - the pair only had one child, who survived to adulthood and who was married and had a child shortly before Ulrich passed in 1648.

After the difficult relationship with England during his grandfather's reign, Ulrich endeavoured to create an enduring peace with their southern neighbours. But also strengthened Scotlands relationship with the Holy Roman Empire via his Mecklenburg-Gustrow and Brandenburg roots - his maternal aunt, Matilda, had married George William, Elector of Brandenburg, his own wife's elder brother. The Scottish Parliament feared that the Hohenzollern Brandenburgs were trying to climb their way onto the Scottish throne - but Scotland was a relatively poor nation in comparison to the Empire and continental trade partners. It became clear during Ulrich's reign that the intent of his uncle/brother-in-law, George, was to fund the development of Scotlands lacklustre colonial programme in order to compete with England's expansionist projects. The next phase of the Electors plan was to marry his son to Ulrichs daughter, creating a Scots-Brandenburg personal union.

But this would have meant that the family tree would have become uncomfortably cosanguinated, the children would be both first cousins (via George and Agnes) as well as first cousins once removed (via Ulrich and Matilda) and the Catholic voices in the Scottish Parliament were vocal about their opposition to the match, as was the elderly Claude, Duke of Albany (son of James VI's youngest son), so the Princess Royal was found another match, deemed more suitable.

George William would have to make do, for the time being, with the village of Garelochhead being renamed Royal Brandenburg and made one of Scotlands primary ports for colonisation efforts and trade.

Ulrich would die in 1548 to he succeeded by his cousin, Claude of Albany.

King Claude and his bride, Elizabeth Maitland, (c.1654)

(5) Claude of Albany, the handsome but elderly son of the ancient Duke of Albany, successfully succeeded to the Scottish throne via claims that Margaret of Scotlands foreign match to the younger Danish Prince John of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp had barred her from the succession, which is the exact reason she had not been married to Maximilian of Brandenburg in the first place. While this did cause some diplomatic friction, Margaret's health following the birth of her daughter a year previously had left her in no way to travel, and her husband was quickly bought off with a large pension (and regardless unpopular for his Lutheranism). Thus, the matter moot. With documents from his father showing all Albany claims were abdicated to the younger Claude, and with the Queen Dowager quietly sent off to a convent, Claude was able to ascend to the throne. The only problem was, in the long term, that the line of Albany was extremely bereft of heirs.

Claude had married the English Princess Bridget of York in 1624, as part of reconcilliation between the English and Scots after Robert IV's war. Bridget was an unpopular figure at the court, and while the couple had seen 11 pregnancies, no surviving child were in existence. Furthermore, Claude's younger brother, Robert, had died tragically of smallpox, which also took his pregnant wife, leaving only two small daughters in the Duke of Albany's care. Thus, the new King's heirs were his nieces, who he brought to court and raised as his own daughters. Margaret of Scotland, in Denmark, saw the birth of a second daughter in 1650, leaving the Albany line even more unstable. With the death of their patriarch in 1650, the King saw no other options, and petitioned the Pope for an annulment of his marriage. Queen Bridget, aware her time was near, instead begged to be allowed to exit to a convent, and in 1651, the King was finally able to look for a new bride. He was 49, with a shaky throne. Realising his vulnerability, he chose speed over prestige, and married a cousin vi ta the line of the Princess Barbara, daughter of James VI of Scotland, and thus Elizabeth Maitland, a widow at 23 with two daughters of her own, became Queen of Scotland.

It quickly became clear that the Scottish Royal Family was in a birthing competition. Margaret in Denmark would have 5 more children before 1660, the Queen became pregnant many times over throughout the next decade as well, and the King's nieces married to England and Poland, each having their own large families later in life. With the succession secured each and every way, Claude was able to focus his attention on his great roads project, a plan he had had for his estates as a man, that now with the wealth and power of the country behind him, he could start. Cobblestone roads between every major city, village and port across the country. Infrastructure to support travel everywhere. It was grand, and not quite doable, but many were laid in his lifetime, facilitating travel, particularly useful for food as the country grew in population. Claude's internal focus made him an easy neighbour for the English. The wars waged by his predecessors meant he felt obligated to maintain strength in public, but privately, he had no use for battle. The marriage of his niece to the Duke of Clarence was an ploy to minimise hostilities, and when the English King and Queen requested his backing for their own infrastructure plans for England, he sent notes on what he wished he had done differently for his own roads project. The countries were not friendly, but diplomacy was fairly easy for most of his reign.

Claude's health began to fail in 1660s, particularly as smallpox took his second wife and her eldest daughter from her first marriage, a woman who's health issues had made her a constant companion to the royal family. His family, so young, and himself so old, made Claude a nervous man. The famous vanity of the King slipped, and his hair became a brilliant white, after years of dying it black. His roads were said to be his only sanity, and in 1667, he was accused of having Margaret of Scotland murdered in Denmark. He never denied the claims outright, and that delicate peace he had worked so hard for was crumbling around him. When the King strangled a courtier's dog following an argument, it was clear he was growing unstable and dangerous. The death of his niece in Poland caused a rampage through Edinburgh, where he stabbed a horse, and in 1670, the King was declared legally insane and placed under strict house arrest.

He was succeeded by .......


James VI of Scotland, prev. 2nd Earl of Arran, b. 1515, r. 1566-1575, m. Margaret Douglas

-- a) James Hamilton, 3rd Earl of Arran, b. 1537, d. 1609​

-- b) John II of Scotland, b. 1540, r. 1575-1604, m. Marguerite of Valois (1553-1615)​

1) Prince James, d. pre 1577​

2) Robert IV of Scotland, b. 1577, r. 1604-1626, m. Arabella Stewart (1575-1616)​

-- a) Margaret, Queen of England, b. c. 1593, d. 1615, betrothed. 1603, m. 1609, Edward VIII of England (d. 1618)​

x) no surviving children​

-- b) Arabella of Scotland, b. 1595, d. 1620, m. Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross (1573 to 1625)​

1) Ulrich of Scotland, also 3rd Duke of Ross (1625 to 1626), 5th Earl of Arran (whilst King) b. 1612, r. 1626 to 1648, m. Agnes of Brandenburg, d.1649​

-- a) Margaret of Scotland, b. 1628, d,1667 m. John X of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, b.1606, c. 1646​

1) Anne of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, b. 1647​

2) Mary of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp, b. 1650​

3-7) five more children​

-- c) Matilda of Scotland, b. 1598, m. George William, Elector of Brandenburg​

1) Maximilian of Brandenburg, b. c. 1619​

-- d) two other daughters of Robert IV​

-- c) Gavin, b. 1538, died in childhood​

-- d) David, Duke of Ross, b. c. 1542, d. 1611, m. Sophie of Mecklenburg-Gustrow (1557 to 1631)​

1) Ulrich, 2nd Duke of Ross, b. 1573, d. 1625, m2. Arabella of Scotland (1595 to 1620)​

-- x) for issue, see line of Arabella of Scotland​

-- e) five other children of James VI including Claude, Duke of Albany (Claude has a son, named Claude)​

1) Claude, Duke of Albany b.1582, d.1650, m. Renee of Lorraine-Mayenne b.1577 d.1637​

--a) Claude of Scotland, b.1602, r.1648-1670, d.1670, m. Bridget of York b.1610, d.1654, m. Elizabeth Maitland, b.1628, d.1664​

- had issue by second wife​

--b) Robert of Albany, b.1606, d.1641, m. Emma Seton d.1641​

1) Catherine of Albany, b.1638 m. Henry, Duke of Clarence c.1654​

2) Arbella of Albany, b. 1640 m. Sigismund IV Casimir, King of Poland c.1659​

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Uhm. You've not just skipped Ulrich's daughter, you've skipped Princess Matildas son, and the lines of the two youngest daughters of Robert IV.

The Electoral Prince himself outranks the Albanys by virtue of his bring Ulrichs maternal cousin too.

The match between Margaret and the Electoral Prince wasn't rejected because he was heir to a foreign state, it was rejected because of cosanguination and fears it was going to go all OTL Hapsburg - and if the Parliament vetoed that on the grounds they didn't like it, and the subsequent match was agreed and deemed acceptable, which it wouldn't have been had he been both Lutheran and the heir to or head of a foreign state which you've stated as the reasons for rejecting Margaret as Queen.

 

[TheBeanieBaron]

eight hours and thirty minutes before the Scottish list dies.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

eight hours and thirty minutes before the Scottish list dies.

It's 32 hours, not 8, the last post was 12.01 AM GMT yesterday, so so it's only been about 40 hours since.

 

[TheBeanieBaron]

It's 32 hours, not 8, the last post was 12.01 AM GMT yesterday, so so it's only been about 40 hours since.

Oops sorry.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Scotland has timed out and is free to claim.

 

[Violet Rose Lily]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane I (Grey) [1]

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a convincing ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to_____.

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Katherine Grey would have already been betrothed to Henry Herbert by the time Jane becomes Queen, and they were married in the same service as Jane and Guilford. The marriage was only annulled IOTL because Herbert's father wanted to distance himself from the Greys. Similarly, Mary Grey was engaged to her cousin, Arthur Grey, a match that was only broken off when Jane was executed. So Jane wouldn't have really had a hand in orchestrating the marriages, given that Mary never succeeds here - and might only preoccupy herself with cousin Margaret's.

Also Frances Grey isn't the Queen Mother as she was not Queen herself. She'd be more likely styled as "My Lady, the Queen's Mother" much as Margaret Beaufort was styled, "My Lady, the King's Mother".

 

[Cate13]

Dibs on England

 

[Cate13]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane I (Grey) [1]
1562-1577: Edward VII (Grey) [2]

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a convincing ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to Jane's eldest son, Edward.


[2] Edward VII was a Tudor in all but name. Tall, fair, and athletic he was a charming young man. He would never grow to be an old one.

Born in 1555, Edward VII was the oldest of Jane’s children, and was only 7 when she died. His father would work hard to keep him involved in the running of the country. And Edward grew up fascinated with England, their colonial expeditions and diplomatic relations. His exuberance was charming, and England adored him.

In 1577, at age 22, just days before his wedding, Edward’s horse would stumble coming out of a jump. He would fall and hit his head. He was succeeded by __________.

 

[Cate13]

It's a bit short, but I lost track of time and didn't want to go over my dibs

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

Claim England

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane I (Grey) [1]
1562-1577: Edward VII (Grey) [2]
1577-1598: Margaret (Stanley) [3]

Spoiler: Previous

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a convincing ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to Jane's eldest son, Edward.

Edward VII, painted by Nicholas Hilliard, c. 1577, to celebrate his upcoming marriage

[2] Edward VII was a Tudor in all but name. Tall, fair, and athletic he was a charming young man. He would never grow to be an old one.

Born in 1555, Edward VII was the oldest of Jane’s children, and was only 7 when she died. His father would work hard to keep him involved in the running of the country. And Edward grew up fascinated with England, their colonial expeditions and diplomatic relations. His exuberance was charming, and England adored him.

In 1577, at age 22, just days before his wedding, Edward’s horse would stumble coming out of a jump. He would fall and hit his head. He was succeeded by his niece, Margaret.

Miniature portrait of Queen Margaret of England, painted by Nicholas Hilliard shortly before her death

(3) Lady Jane Dudley, daughter of Queen Jane and the Duke of Clarence, was the second of three children and the eldest of two daughters, born in 1560, and married to her cousin, Ferdinando Stanley (1559 to 1594), during her brothers reign in 1576. Lady Jane was soon pregnant and gave birth to a daughter, Margaret, in early 1577, shortly before her brother died, with Jane dying of complications just days before the child's birth. Edward elevated his brother-in-law, Ferdinando, to Lord of the Isle of Wight, in absence of his own titles (Ferdinando used Baron Strange, a subsidiary title of his father's as a courtesy one at Court) and then Edward died.

Margaret, only months old, was Queen. Next in line to the throne was her fifteen year old Aunt, who the Privy Council determined, could not act as Regent, though it was determined she must marry with haste. As luck would have it, with the death of Margaret Stanley, and the fact that Katherine, Countess of Pembroke, and Mary, Baroness Grey de Wilton, remained childless, the Lord of (the Isle of) Wight, placed fourth in the line of succession himself, the first male, despite the Countess and Baroness being elder than him. From 1577 to 1595, the Regency of Wight took place, with the Earl of Pembroke and the Baron Grey de Wilton, playing significant advisory figures. The Lord placed consideration for Margaret's marriage in the hands of the Countess and Baroness and in 1593, the Queen was married to Maurice, Prince of Orange, ten years her senior. She would soon fall pregnant, and would have, like her mother before her, three children. Despite having reached majority in 1595, Margaret still placed a large amount of responsibility in her Regency Council to rule in her stead, with equal importance placed on their new military ties to the Dutch Republic as well as to their continued colonial efforts.

In 1589, at the age of twelve, she would travel to Edinburgh with her Great Aunt, the Duchess of Pembroke, to witness the marriage of David, the Duke of Albany, (son of Mary and her third husband, the Earl of Bothwell), and Anna of Saxony. The Duchess stressed to Margaret that a cordial relationship must he ensured with Scotland, as Mary of Scots and her sons had a legitimate claim to England and that the Privy Council did not desire them to press it.

When she later had her first child, Margaret would state her desire that they marry a child of (by then) David III of Scotland and Anna of Saxony.

Margaret would die in 1598 at the age of 21, in birth with a fourth child. Both mother and child would not survive, and Margaret would be succeeded by ........


Family Tree

Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, b. 1484, d. 1545, m3. Mary Tudor (1496 to 1533)

1) Frances Brandon, Duchess of Suffolk, b. 1517, d. 1559, m. Henry Grey (1517 to 1554)​

a) Jane of England, b. 1537, r. 1553 to 1562, m. Guilford Dudley, Duke of Clarence (1535 to 15XX)​

1) Edward VII, b. 1555, r. 1562 to 1577, never married, no issue ​

2) Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange, b. 1560, d. 1577, m. Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight (1559 to post 1598)​

a) Margaret of England, b. 1577, r. 1577 to 1598, m. Maurice, Prince of Orange (1567 to post 1598)​

x) three children from 1594​

4) a stillborn fourth child, b. 1598​

3) Daughter, b. 1561​

b) Katherine Grey, Countess of Pembroke, b. 1540, (alive as of 1577), m. Henry Herbert, Earl of Pembroke (b. 1538), no children as of 1577​

c) Mary Grey, Baroness Grey de Wilton, b. 1545, (alive as of 1577), m. Arthur Grey, Baron Grey de Wilton (b. 1536), no children as of 1577​

2) Eleanor Brandon, Countess of Cumberland, b. 1519, d. 1547, m. Henry Clifford, Earl of Cumberland (1517 to 1570)​

a) Margaret Clifford, b. 1540, d. pre. 1577, m. Henry Stanley, Earl of Derby (1531 to 1591)​

a) Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight, b. 1559, d. post. 1598, m. Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange (1560 to 1567)​

x) for issue, see line of Lady Jane Dudley​

x) other issue​

Spoiler: References for Pictures

2) Edward VII = Sir Robert Dudley, illegitimate son of Robert, Earl of Leicester
3) Margaret = Elizabeth Stanley, Countess of Huntingdon

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

c. 1598


a) Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland, b. 1489, d. 1541, m1. James IV of Scotland (1473 to 1513), m2. Archibald Douglas, Lord Douglas

1) James V of Scotland, b. 1512, d. 1542, m2. Marie of Guise (1515 to 1560)​

a) Mary, Queen of Scots, b. 1542, d. c. 1595, m1. Francis II, King of France (d. 1560), m2. Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley (d. 1567), m3. James Hepburn, Duke of Orkney (d. 1578)​

2a) James, Duke of Rothesay, b. 1566, d. pre. 1595, m. Anne of Denmark, no issue​

3a) David III of Scotland, b. 1570, m. Anna of Saxony, has issue​

2) Margaret Stewart, Countess of Lennox, b. 1515, d. 1578, m. Matthew Stewart​

a) Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, b. 1546, d. 1567, m. Mary, Queen of Scots​

1) James, Duke of Rothesay, b. 1566, d. pre. 1595, m. Anne of Denmark, no issue​

b) Charles Stuart, Earl of Lennox, b. 1557, d. 1576, m. Elizabeth Cavendish​

1) Arbella Stuart, b. 1575​

b) Mary Tudor, Queen of France, b. 1496, d. 1533, m2. Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk (1484 to 1544)

1) Frances Brandon, Duchess of Suffolk, b. 1517, d. 1559, m. Henry Grey (1517 to 1554)​

a) Jane of England, b. 1537, r. 1553 to 1562, m. Guilford Dudley, Duke of Clarence (1535 to 15XX)​

1) Edward VII, b. 1555, r. 1562 to 1577, never married, no issue ​

2) Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange, b. 1560, d. 1577, m. Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight (1559 to post 1598)​

a) Margaret of England, b. 1577, r. 1577 to 1598, m. Maurice, Prince of Orange (1567 to post 1598)​

x) three children from 1594​

4) a stillborn fourth child, b. 1598​

3) Daughter, b. 1561​

b) Katherine Grey, Countess of Pembroke, b. 1540, (alive as of 1577), m. Henry Herbert, Earl of Pembroke (b. 1538), no children as of 1577​

c) Mary Grey, Baroness Grey de Wilton, b. 1545, (alive as of 1577), m. Arthur Grey, Baron Grey de Wilton (b. 1536), no children as of 1577​

2) Eleanor Brandon, Countess of Cumberland, b. 1519, d. 1547, m. Henry Clifford, Earl of Cumberland (1517 to 1570)​

a) Margaret Clifford, b. 1540, d. pre. 1577, m. Henry Stanley, Earl of Derby (1531 to 1591)​

a) Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight, b. 1559, d. post. 1598, m. Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange (1560 to 1567)​

x) for issue, see line of Lady Jane Dudley​

x) other issue​

 

[Jonathan]

Claiming England
Relinquish claim due to work.

 

[Violet Rose Lily]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane I (Grey) [1]
1562-1577: Edward VII (Grey) [2]
1577-1598: Margaret (Stanley) [3]
1598-1625: Henry IX (Stanley) [4]

Monarchs of England and Princes of Orange
1625-1633: Henry IX & I (Stanley) [4]

Spoiler: Previous Monarchs

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a convincing ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to Jane's eldest son, Edward.

Edward VII, painted by Nicholas Hilliard, c. 1577, to celebrate his upcoming marriage

[2] Edward VII was a Tudor in all but name. Tall, fair, and athletic he was a charming young man. He would never grow to be an old one.

Born in 1555, Edward VII was the oldest of Jane’s children, and was only 7 when she died. His father would work hard to keep him involved in the running of the country. And Edward grew up fascinated with England, their colonial expeditions and diplomatic relations. His exuberance was charming, and England adored him.

In 1577, at age 22, just days before his wedding, Edward’s horse would stumble coming out of a jump. He would fall and hit his head. He was succeeded by his niece, Margaret.

Miniature portrait of Queen Margaret of England, painted by Nicholas Hilliard shortly before her death

(3) Lady Jane Dudley, daughter of Queen Jane and the Duke of Clarence, was the second of three children and the eldest of two daughters, born in 1560, and married to her cousin, Ferdinando Stanley (1559 to 1594), during her brothers reign in 1576. Lady Jane was soon pregnant and gave birth to a daughter, Margaret, in early 1577, shortly before her brother died, with Jane dying of complications just days before the child's birth. Edward elevated his brother-in-law, Ferdinando, to Lord of the Isle of Wight, in absence of his own titles (Ferdinando used Baron Strange, a subsidiary title of his father's as a courtesy one at Court) and then Edward died.

Margaret, only months old, was Queen. Next in line to the throne was her fifteen year old Aunt, who the Privy Council determined, could not act as Regent, though it was determined she must marry with haste. As luck would have it, with the death of Margaret Stanley, and the fact that Katherine, Countess of Pembroke, and Mary, Baroness Grey de Wilton, remained childless, the Lord of (the Isle of) Wight, placed fourth in the line of succession himself, the first male, despite the Countess and Baroness being elder than him. From 1577 to 1595, the Regency of Wight took place, with the Earl of Pembroke and the Baron Grey de Wilton, playing significant advisory figures. The Lord placed consideration for Margaret's marriage in the hands of the Countess and Baroness and in 1593, the Queen was married to Maurice, Prince of Orange, ten years her senior. She would soon fall pregnant, and would have, like her mother before her, three children. Despite having reached majority in 1595, Margaret still placed a large amount of responsibility in her Regency Council to rule in her stead, with equal importance placed on their new military ties to the Dutch Republic as well as to their continued colonial efforts.

In 1589, at the age of twelve, she would travel to Edinburgh with her Great Aunt, the Duchess of Pembroke, to witness the marriage of David, the Duke of Albany, (son of Mary and her third husband, the Earl of Bothwell), and Anna of Saxony. The Duchess stressed to Margaret that a cordial relationship must he ensured with Scotland, as Mary of Scots and her sons had a legitimate claim to England and that the Privy Council did not desire them to press it.

When she later had her first child, Margaret would state her desire that they marry a child of (by then) David III of Scotland and Anna of Saxony.

Margaret would die in 1598 at the age of 21, in birth with a fourth child. Both mother and child would not survive, and Margaret would be succeeded by her son, Henry.

[4] Henry was only four when his mother died. England settled in for another long regency, starting to wonder if they would forever be cursed with child monarchs who kept dying at young ages. Per his mother's wishes, Henry was married to Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of King David and his wife, Anna of Saxony. The two had been engaged since they were both in their cradles and began writing to each other from the ages of six. They managed to create a close bound before Elizabeth even arrived to England in 1612. They would have a fruitful marriage, having thirteen children.

When Henry reached the age of majority in 1609, he was allowed to rule for himself. He maintained a good relationship with his father, the Prince of Orange, pledging to send English troops in support should Spain ever renew their attack. He also maintained a good friendship with his brother-in-law, Fredrick V, Elector of the Palatinate. When the thirty year war in 1618 broke out, Henry believed it was his duty as a Protestant to help his fellow reformers. However, his wife, his father, and his advisors begged him not to fight himself, as his heir was only six-years-old. Reluctantly, Henry acquiesced.

In 1625, Maurice, Prince of Orange died, and Henry was now the leader of the Dutch Republic. Henry would nominate his half-uncle and namesake to rule over the Dutch, wanting them to keep their nominal independence. When Spain attacked with their armada, the combined forces of the Dutch and English navy managed to make decisive victory, having attack Spain from both sides of the English channel.

While Henry was a diligent ruler, he had one major vice. His love for fine food. By 1630, he began to suffer from gout and would eventually die from it three years later, leaving his kingdom in the hands of_____

Family Tree

Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk, b. 1484, d. 1545, m3. Mary Tudor (1496 to 1533)

1) Frances Brandon, Duchess of Suffolk, b. 1517, d. 1559, m. Henry Grey (1517 to 1554)​

a) Jane of England, b. 1537, r. 1553 to 1562, m. Guilford Dudley, Duke of Clarence (1535 to 15XX)​

1) Edward VII, b. 1555, r. 1562 to 1577, never married, no issue ​

2) Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange, b. 1560, d. 1577, m. Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight (1559 to post 1598)​

a) Margaret of England, b. 1577, r. 1577 to 1598, m. Maurice, Prince of Orange (1567 to 1625)​

1) Henry of England, b. 1594 r.1598 to 1633, m. Elizabeth Stuart (b. 1594)​

x) Thirteen children from 1612 to 1633​

2) daughter b. 1595 m. Frederick V of the Palatinate (b. 1596)​

3) another child b. 1597​

4) a stillborn fourth child, b. 1598​

3) Daughter, b. 1561​

b) Katherine Grey, Countess of Pembroke, b. 1540, (alive as of 1577), m. Henry Herbert, Earl of Pembroke (b. 1538), no children as of 1577​

c) Mary Grey, Baroness Grey de Wilton, b. 1545, (alive as of 1577), m. Arthur Grey, Baron Grey de Wilton (b. 1536), no children as of 1577​

2) Eleanor Brandon, Countess of Cumberland, b. 1519, d. 1547, m. Henry Clifford, Earl of Cumberland (1517 to 1570)​

a) Margaret Clifford, b. 1540, d. pre. 1577, m. Henry Stanley, Earl of Derby (1531 to 1591)​

a) Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight, b. 1559, d. post. 1598, m. Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange (1560 to 1567)​

x) for issue, see line of Lady Jane Dudley​

x) other issue​

 

[wwbgdiaslt]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane (Grey) [1]
1562-1577: Edward VII (Grey) [2]
1577-1598: Margaret (Stanley) [3]
1598-1625: Henry IX (Stanley) [4]

Monarchs of England and Princes of Orange
1625-1633: Henry IX & I (Stanley) [4]
1633-1654: David (Stanley) [5]

Spoiler: Previous Monarchs

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a convincing ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to Jane's eldest son, Edward.

Edward VII, painted by Nicholas Hilliard, c. 1577, to celebrate his upcoming marriage

[2] Edward VII was a Tudor in all but name. Tall, fair, and athletic he was a charming young man. He would never grow to be an old one.

Born in 1555, Edward VII was the oldest of Jane’s children, and was only 7 when she died. His father would work hard to keep him involved in the running of the country. And Edward grew up fascinated with England, their colonial expeditions and diplomatic relations. His exuberance was charming, and England adored him.

In 1577, at age 22, just days before his wedding, Edward’s horse would stumble coming out of a jump. He would fall and hit his head. He was succeeded by his niece, Margaret.

Miniature portrait of Queen Margaret of England, painted by Nicholas Hilliard shortly before her death

(3) Lady Jane Dudley, daughter of Queen Jane and the Duke of Clarence, was the second of three children and the eldest of two daughters, born in 1560, and married to her cousin, Ferdinando Stanley (1559 to 1594), during her brothers reign in 1576. Lady Jane was soon pregnant and gave birth to a daughter, Margaret, in early 1577, shortly before her brother died, with Jane dying of complications just days before the child's birth. Edward elevated his brother-in-law, Ferdinando, to Lord of the Isle of Wight, in absence of his own titles (Ferdinando used Baron Strange, a subsidiary title of his father's as a courtesy one at Court) and then Edward died.

Margaret, only months old, was Queen. Next in line to the throne was her fifteen year old Aunt, who the Privy Council determined, could not act as Regent, though it was determined she must marry with haste. As luck would have it, with the death of Margaret Stanley, and the fact that Katherine, Countess of Pembroke, and Mary, Baroness Grey de Wilton, remained childless, the Lord of (the Isle of) Wight, placed fourth in the line of succession himself, the first male, despite the Countess and Baroness being elder than him. From 1577 to 1595, the Regency of Wight took place, with the Earl of Pembroke and the Baron Grey de Wilton, playing significant advisory figures. The Lord placed consideration for Margaret's marriage in the hands of the Countess and Baroness and in 1593, the Queen was married to Maurice, Prince of Orange, ten years her senior. She would soon fall pregnant, and would have, like her mother before her, three children. Despite having reached majority in 1595, Margaret still placed a large amount of responsibility in her Regency Council to rule in her stead, with equal importance placed on their new military ties to the Dutch Republic as well as to their continued colonial efforts.

In 1589, at the age of twelve, she would travel to Edinburgh with her Great Aunt, the Duchess of Pembroke, to witness the marriage of David, the Duke of Albany, (son of Mary and her third husband, the Earl of Bothwell), and Anna of Saxony. The Duchess stressed to Margaret that a cordial relationship must he ensured with Scotland, as Mary of Scots and her sons had a legitimate claim to England and that the Privy Council did not desire them to press it.

When she later had her first child, Margaret would state her desire that they marry a child of (by then) David III of Scotland and Anna of Saxony.

Margaret would die in 1598 at the age of 21, in birth with a fourth child. Both mother and child would not survive, and Margaret would be succeeded by her son, Henry.

[4] Henry was only four when his mother died. England settled in for another long regency, starting to wonder if they would forever be cursed with child monarchs who kept dying at young ages. Per his mother's wishes, Henry was married to Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of King David and his wife, Anna of Saxony. The two had been engaged since they were both in their cradles and began writing to each other from the ages of six. They managed to create a close bound before Elizabeth even arrived to England in 1612. They would have a fruitful marriage, having thirteen children.

When Henry reached the age of majority in 1609, he was allowed to rule for himself. He maintained a good relationship with his father, the Prince of Orange, pledging to send English troops in support should Spain ever renew their attack. He also maintained a good friendship with his brother-in-law, Fredrick V, Elector of the Palatinate. When the thirty year war in 1618 broke out, Henry believed it was his duty as a Protestant to help his fellow reformers. However, his wife, his father, and his advisors begged him not to fight himself, as his heir was only six-years-old. Reluctantly, Henry acquiesced.

In 1625, Maurice, Prince of Orange died, and Henry was now the leader of the Dutch Republic. Henry would nominate his half-uncle and namesake to rule over the Dutch, wanting them to keep their nominal independence. When Spain attacked with their armada, the combined forces of the Dutch and English navy managed to make decisive victory, having attack Spain from both sides of the English channel.

While Henry was a diligent ruler, he had one major vice. His love for fine food. By 1630, he began to suffer from gout and would eventually die from it three years later, leaving his kingdom in the hands of_____

(4) David was the second, but eldest surviving, son of Henry IX of England and his wife, Elizabeth Stewart. He had five older sisters and was born in 1623, which meant that he inherited both of his father's thrones when he was only ten. Yes, it did seem as if England would be forced to endure yet another period of Regency, this time under the Duke of York, before the King assumed the throne in his own right in 1641, shortly ahead of his marriage to his cousin, Hollandine of the Palatinate, and the two produced only two children, both in the five years after their marriage, who survived childhood. With the protracted periods of Regency that England had been through, the Privy Council sought to build their own powers and began to transform into the House of Representatives that we know today - with the assorted nobles selecting one of themselves to act as Speaker of the House, representing them to the Duke of York, as Regent, and subsequently the King himself in 1641. After the tumultuous Spanish Armada of his father's reign, David saw his reign being relatively peaceful other than the the occasional trade dispute as the Speaker of the House clashed with the Grand Pensionary of the United Provinces, Jacob Cats.

In 1654, David died of what is believed to be a heart attack and was succeeded by .........





Family Tree


Jane of England, b. 1537, r. 1553 to 1562, m. Guilford Dudley, Duke of Clarence (1535 to 15XX)

1) Edward VII, b. 1555, r. 1562 to 1577, never married, no issue ​

2) Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange, b. 1560, d. 1577, m. Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight (1559 to post 1598)​

a) Margaret of England, b. 1577, r. 1577 to 1598, m. Maurice, Prince of Orange (1567 to 1625)​

1) Henry IX, b. 1594 r.1598 to 1633, m. Elizabeth Stuart (b. 1594)​

a) Lady Elizabeth, b. 1612​

b) Lady Margaret, b. 1613​

c) Lady Anna, b. 1614​

d) Henry, Prince of Wales, b. 1617, d. 1630, never married​

e) Lady Jane, b. 1618​

f) Lady Mary, b. 1621​

g) David of England, prev. Duke of Gloucester, b. 1623, r. 1633 to 1654, m. Hollandine of the Palatinate​

x) two children (1642 to 1647)​

h) b. 1624​

i) b. 1626​

j) b. 1627​

k) b. 1629​

l) b. 1630​

m) b. 1633​

2) daughter b. 1595 m. Frederick V of the Palatinate (b. 1596)​

x) multiple children including Hollandine of the Palatinate who marries David I​

3) William, Duke of York, b. 1597, acted as Regent of England from 1633 to 1641​

4) a stillborn fourth child, b. 1598​

3) Daughter, b. 1561​

 

[Violet Rose Lily]

POD: Jane Grey is queen for nine years instead of nine days.

Monarchs of England
1547-1553: Edward VI (Tudor)
1553-1562: Jane (Grey) [1]
1562-1577: Edward VII (Grey) [2]
1577-1598: Margaret (Stanley) [3]
1598-1625: Henry IX (Stanley) [4]

Monarchs of England and Princes of Orange
1625-1633: Henry IX & I (Stanley) [4]
1633-1654: David (Stanley) [5]
1654-1701: William III & II (Stanley) [6]

Spoiler: Previous Monarchs

[1] Jane Grey's rise to the throne is surrounded by controversy, scandal, intrigue. Jane is often seen as either an innocent pawn used by the men in her life, an empty headed fool, a conniving ice queen, or just a stoic, traumatized girl who is making the best of a bad situation.

Her cousin, Edward VI decided to make her his heir to prevent his Catholic sister, Mary from taking the throne. In defiance of his brother's will, he skipped both of his half sisters and named Jane as his heir. Many suspect his Lord Protector John Dudley, Duke of Northumberland's hand in this as his youngest son, Guildford was soon married to the future queen. Despite being opposites in personality, Guildford and Jane had a happy marriage with Guildford being known as a man who was extremely protective of his wife. In one incident, he punched his brother Robert for insulting her (the fact that Robert was in love with Jane's political rival did not help). Jane would get pregnant three times. She would make Guildford the Duke of Clarence despite he and his family pressuring her to make him king.

In July of 1553, Edward died and Northumberland immediately had the Lady Mary arrested, catching her fleeing from her Hudson home. He put he under house arrest at first, fearing that her popularity would spark outrage if he tried to put her in prison. Lady Mary would die in February 1554 of cancer (although rumors persist she was poisoned by either Northumberland or the Queen's Mother, Frances). Mary would commonly be known as the Queen that never was. It was also arranged for Elizabeth to be married to Eric of Sweden.

With both of her rivals removed from the game board, Jane was allowed a little bit more a free hand at ruling, although she was still being "advised" by the Dudleys and the Greys. She arranged a marriage for Margaret Clifford, daughter of her Aunt Eleanor, to Henry Stanley, the 4th Earl of Derby. She made a new act of succession, decreeing that if she were to die heiress, the crown would be passed to her sisters, their children then Margaret, her children.

As a stanch Protestant, Jane continued with Edward's policies. However, she took a softer touch with it came with Catholics. As one courtier would put it, she much rather debate than burn them for heresy. She also sponsored expeditions to the new world, Russia, and the East.

In 1556, she began to push back against her father and the Duke of Northumberland, going so far as removing them from her council, replacing them with advisors loyal to her. While Northumberland was pragmatic enough to realize that fighting with Jane would not help his cause, not to mention his son was her husband, one of his daughters was her lady-in-waiting, the Duke of Suffolk was enraged by what he felt was a betrayal of his daughter. Many modern depictions would show Henry Grey storming into Jane's chambers ready to beat with the inch of her life, with Jane, cold as ice, threatening to have her father arrested for treason if he even raised his hand at her.

While there is very little evidence to support that Henry and Frances Grey were physically abusive, let alone Jane threaten to arrest them if they ever hurt her once she became king, it is clear that in 1556, Jane was adamant to no longer be under the thumb of her relatives. Although Guildford was not pleased with his father ousting, he would continue to support his wife, keeping their arguments behind closed doors while maintaining a united front in public.

In 1559, Lords of the Congregation, made up of anti-French Protestant Scottish nobles, requested England's help in their war against Mary of Guise's regency. Now while some portrayals like to play up the rumored romance between the late King Edward and Jane Grey, often insisting that her agreement was born out of petty jealousy for her rival, it is clear by what was known of Jane's character that she truly believed in the rebels' caused and was determined to help them. (Of course Mary of Scots being the Catholic heir to the throne of England probably helped).

At first things looked pretty good until the French decided to retaliate by retaking Calais, something the English were unprepared for. This and the death of King Francis II, leaving Mary of Scots a widow, had Jane making a peace treaty with France and Scotland, calling back her troops. She allowed Queen Mary passage to Scotland through England, even hosting Mary at one point. While the meeting between the two queens was tense, it should be noted that neither woman seemed to overly hostile, even in their spirited debates on religion.

In October 1562, Jane would be stricken with smallpox. At first it was thought only to be a cold, but then it grew worse. Jane had her husband Guildford acting as regent as she languished in bed. There was hope that she would get better, but as the days went on, it was clear she would not. Her death was a devastating blow to the Dudleys and the Greys. The Duke of Clarence would wear black for the rest of his life and would not marry again. He would, however, stay on in the council as an advisor to Jane's eldest son, Edward.

Edward VII, painted by Nicholas Hilliard, c. 1577, to celebrate his upcoming marriage

[2] Edward VII was a Tudor in all but name. Tall, fair, and athletic he was a charming young man. He would never grow to be an old one.

Born in 1555, Edward VII was the oldest of Jane’s children, and was only 7 when she died. His father would work hard to keep him involved in the running of the country. And Edward grew up fascinated with England, their colonial expeditions and diplomatic relations. His exuberance was charming, and England adored him.

In 1577, at age 22, just days before his wedding, Edward’s horse would stumble coming out of a jump. He would fall and hit his head. He was succeeded by his niece, Margaret.

Miniature portrait of Queen Margaret of England, painted by Nicholas Hilliard shortly before her death

(3) Lady Jane Dudley, daughter of Queen Jane and the Duke of Clarence, was the second of three children and the eldest of two daughters, born in 1560, and married to her cousin, Ferdinando Stanley (1559 to 1594), during her brothers reign in 1576. Lady Jane was soon pregnant and gave birth to a daughter, Margaret, in early 1577, shortly before her brother died, with Jane dying of complications just days before the child's birth. Edward elevated his brother-in-law, Ferdinando, to Lord of the Isle of Wight, in absence of his own titles (Ferdinando used Baron Strange, a subsidiary title of his father's as a courtesy one at Court) and then Edward died.

Margaret, only months old, was Queen. Next in line to the throne was her fifteen year old Aunt, who the Privy Council determined, could not act as Regent, though it was determined she must marry with haste. As luck would have it, with the death of Margaret Stanley, and the fact that Katherine, Countess of Pembroke, and Mary, Baroness Grey de Wilton, remained childless, the Lord of (the Isle of) Wight, placed fourth in the line of succession himself, the first male, despite the Countess and Baroness being elder than him. From 1577 to 1595, the Regency of Wight took place, with the Earl of Pembroke and the Baron Grey de Wilton, playing significant advisory figures. The Lord placed consideration for Margaret's marriage in the hands of the Countess and Baroness and in 1593, the Queen was married to Maurice, Prince of Orange, ten years her senior. She would soon fall pregnant, and would have, like her mother before her, three children. Despite having reached majority in 1595, Margaret still placed a large amount of responsibility in her Regency Council to rule in her stead, with equal importance placed on their new military ties to the Dutch Republic as well as to their continued colonial efforts.

In 1589, at the age of twelve, she would travel to Edinburgh with her Great Aunt, the Duchess of Pembroke, to witness the marriage of David, the Duke of Albany, (son of Mary and her third husband, the Earl of Bothwell), and Anna of Saxony. The Duchess stressed to Margaret that a cordial relationship must he ensured with Scotland, as Mary of Scots and her sons had a legitimate claim to England and that the Privy Council did not desire them to press it.

When she later had her first child, Margaret would state her desire that they marry a child of (by then) David III of Scotland and Anna of Saxony.

Margaret would die in 1598 at the age of 21, in birth with a fourth child. Both mother and child would not survive, and Margaret would be succeeded by her son, Henry.

[4] Henry was only four when his mother died. England settled in for another long regency, starting to wonder if they would forever be cursed with child monarchs who kept dying at young ages. Per his mother's wishes, Henry was married to Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of King David and his wife, Anna of Saxony. The two had been engaged since they were both in their cradles and began writing to each other from the ages of six. They managed to create a close bound before Elizabeth even arrived to England in 1612. They would have a fruitful marriage, having thirteen children.

When Henry reached the age of majority in 1609, he was allowed to rule for himself. He maintained a good relationship with his father, the Prince of Orange, pledging to send English troops in support should Spain ever renew their attack. He also maintained a good friendship with his brother-in-law, Fredrick V, Elector of the Palatinate. When the thirty year war in 1618 broke out, Henry believed it was his duty as a Protestant to help his fellow reformers. However, his wife, his father, and his advisors begged him not to fight himself, as his heir was only six-years-old. Reluctantly, Henry acquiesced.

In 1625, Maurice, Prince of Orange died, and Henry was now the leader of the Dutch Republic. Henry would nominate his half-uncle and namesake to rule over the Dutch, wanting them to keep their nominal independence. When Spain attacked with their armada, the combined forces of the Dutch and English navy managed to make decisive victory, having attack Spain from both sides of the English channel.

While Henry was a diligent ruler, he had one major vice. His love for fine food. By 1630, he began to suffer from gout and would eventually die from it three years later, leaving his kingdom in the hands of his son, David.

(5) David was the second, but eldest surviving, son of Henry IX of England and his wife, Elizabeth Stewart. He had five older sisters and was born in 1623, which meant that he inherited both of his father's thrones when he was only ten. Yes, it did seem as if England would be forced to endure yet another period of Regency, this time under the Duke of York, before the King assumed the throne in his own right in 1641, shortly ahead of his marriage to his cousin, Hollandine of the Palatinate, and the two produced only two children, both in the five years after their marriage, who survived childhood. With the protracted periods of Regency that England had been through, the Privy Council sought to build their own powers and began to transform into the House of Representatives that we know today - with the assorted nobles selecting one of themselves to act as Speaker of the House, representing them to the Duke of York, as Regent, and subsequently the King himself in 1641. After the tumultuous Spanish Armada of his father's reign, David saw his reign being relatively peaceful other than the the occasional trade dispute as the Speaker of the House clashed with the Grand Pensionary of the United Provinces, Jacob Cats.

In 1654, David died of what is believed to be a heart attack and was succeeded by his son, William.

[6] William was born in 1643, named for his uncle and regent. In 1552, the King of Spain agreed to officially to recognize that the Netherlands or the Dutch Republic were no longer under Spanish rule in exchange for the marriage between the then Prince of Wales, William, and his newborn daughter, Margaret Theresa who was eight years, the Prince's junior. Two years later, King David died of a heart attack, leaving the Netherlands and England to once again fall under a regency. In King David's will, he urged the privy council to go forward with the Spanish match, not wanting there to be war with Spain while his son was still young. After years of negotiation, the marriage agreement was finalized and at age twelve Margaret Theresa came to England.

King William was now a man of twenty and was less than impressed with his new bride. She was Catholic, unhealthy, Spanish, and that ugly Hapsburg jaw. However, William had been taught from a young age that a king must do his duty so despite his grumbling, he wed Margaret and then promptly spent his wedding night dancing, drinking, and sleeping with his mistress. Needless to say the marriage was not a happy one. Margaret was not a popular queen as she was quite adverse to the Protestant customs, and was quite unhappy not being able to practice her faith (despite that being one of the stipulations). She fell pregnant only once, and gave birth to a stillborn son in 1667. The strain of the pregnancy and the birth caused her to fall ill with a fever. She asked her husband about the baby, not knowing it had been stillborn. William in a moment of tenderness lied and said she had birthed a healthy son who would be king someday. When later asked about this, William admitted that he had been so cruel to her for so long that the least he could do was let her die happy.

Despite her unpopularity, William still ordered the customary six months of marriage. However, he also had his ambassadors searching for a new bride for him during that time as he lacked an heir (his brother, Henry, had died unmarried and heiress just six years earlier). He married for a second time in 1670 to Princess Wilhelmine Ernestine of Denmark. Although Wilhemlmine was certainly more popular with the people, she was not with her husband as he found her shy and solitary nature and the fact that she crippled to be a turn off.

By 1673, William requested a divorce, stating that the marriage had not been consummated. In exchange for her cooperation, William gave his former wife several manors in the countryside of England, and a hefty pension. After the divorce was finalized, William decided this time he was choosing his own bride, Elizabeth Wriothesley, widow of the the Earl of Northumberland who had returned from Italy just three years previous and caught the king's eye, ousting his previous long time mistress in the king's favor.

Elizabeth was a cultured woman who upon becoming queen, immediately used her court to invite many artists from Italy. Unlike William's previous two wives, she was a great lover of balls and masquerades. William and she were birds of a feather and their marriage was much smoother. She would give birth to two children. Sadly, Elizabeth would die of smallpox in 1690, leaving her husband a widow. William would wed Princess Elisabeth Sophie of Brandenburg. Despite the thirty year age gap and langue barrier, Sophie and William were able to have harmonious marriage, having two healthy children. Sophie would also be a doting stepmother to Elizabeth's children and would even become a lifetime friend of Wilheminine, even living with the later after the death of William.

While William dealt with his tumultuous love life, he also had foreign relation to handle. In 1672, before his divorce with his second wife, France invaded Rhainland. As King Louis was aware that the Dutch-Anglo alliance would be a strong opponent, they recruited Scotland and the Irish Catholics into helping them. William found himself being attacked by all sides. Worse Denmark was currently Scotland's ally despite the marriage between Wilheminine and William. Of course the fact that the king was planning on divorcing his wife being the worst kept secret in Europe probably didn't sway his brother-in-law to his side. However Denmark was currently feuding with Sweden so they opted to stay out of the mess.

Spain sided with King William when it became clear that France was after the Spanish Netherlands which also brought the aid of Emperor Leopold. The war lasted for six years with heavy loses on both sides. William barely escaped capture during the disastrous battle of Anterwp. It ended in 1678, with France conceding the Dutch territories, but keeping control of the Burgundian Netherlands.

In order to gain back money, he lost in the war, William focused on expanding the Dutch and English trade routes, expanding their colonies in the new world. When his first living child was born in 1679, the king decided to make a marriage pact with the Holy Roman Emperor, hoping to make an alliance against France. However when the nine year war broke out in 1690s, William refused to help, feeling that his coffers had scarcely recovered from the last war. This would infuriate Emperor Leopold who brake the betrothal. King Louis swooped in and offed one his grandchildren for a match instead in exchange for a peace treaty. The two monarchs would meet in Scotland in 1695 with King Charles I of Scots playing mediator. One part of the agreement was the sale of Louisiana.

Outside of marital troubles and wars, William had a strong thirst for knowledge, he loved to learn about new things, and was quite eager to fund universities, inventors, and scientists. He even founded a royal society for improving natural knowledge. He was gifted with a telescope for his sixteenth birthday and would spend hours looking up at the night sky. By the time he was twenty, he had built a laboratory adjacent to his own bedroom so he could perform his own experiments or watch the members of his society experiment themselves. It was often said the quickest way to drag William from a party or his mistress was to tell him that a new discovery had been made and watch as his eyes lit up like a child at Christmastide.

Unfortunately, this would led to his bad health in his later years as he began to experiment with mercury. In 1701, he would die of what would later be discovered as kidney failure. He was fifty-eight at the time, leaving____to inherit.


Family Tree


Jane of England, b. 1537, r. 1553 to 1562, m. Guildford Dudley, Duke of Clarence (1535 to 15XX)

1) Edward VII, b. 1555, r. 1562 to 1577, never married, no issue ​

2) Lady Jane Dudley, Baroness Strange, b. 1560, d. 1577, m. Ferdinando Stanley, Lord of the Isle of Wight (1559 to post 1598)​

a) Margaret of England, b. 1577, r. 1577 to 1598, m. Maurice, Prince of Orange (1567 to 1625)​

1) Henry IX, b. 1594 r.1598 to 1633, m. Elizabeth Stuart (b. 1594)​

a) Lady Elizabeth, b. 1612​

b) Lady Margaret, b. 1613​

c) Lady Anna, b. 1614​

d) Henry, Prince of Wales, b. 1617, d. 1630, never married​

e) Lady Jane, b. 1618​

f) Lady Mary, b. 1621​

g) David of England, prev. Duke of Gloucester, b. 1623, r. 1633 to 1654, m. Hollandine of the Palatinate​

1) William III, b. 1643, r.1654 to 1702, m. Margaret Theresa of Spain (1663 to 1667) [a] Wilhelmine Ernestine (m. 1670, div. 1673). Elizabeth Wriothesley (m. 1674, d, 1690) [c] Elisabeth Sophie of Brandenburg (m. 1692) [d]​

2) Henry d. 1661​

h) b. 1624​

i) b. 1626​

j) b. 1627​

k) b. 1629​

l) b. 1630​

m) b. 1633​

2) daughter b. 1595 m. Frederick V of the Palatinate (b. 1596)​

x) multiple children including Hollandine of the Palatinate who marries David I​

3) William, Duke of York, b. 1597, acted as Regent of England from 1633 to 1641​

4) a stillborn fourth child, b. 1598​

3) Daughter, b. 1561​

 

[LAHistorian15]

Claiming England.
Unclaiming. Was busy now it is late where I live so I won’t be able to get it done by the deadline.