First you have written it badly (read it again, second you need to fill better with changes after your POD. Who is William’s mother? And who is Eleanor’s second husband? Why her son is called King and not Duke of Aquitaine)? Plus if you give the name of a ruler you need to fill his bio
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It is because Aquitaine and England ripped WestFrancia into two, Eleanor married the Count of Toulouse in this TL.
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Note on Chinese names:
"Li" is the Surname, "Zicheng" is the personal name.
Unlike the West, Chinese people write their names "Surname" (or family name) followed by "personal name".
In the west - writing out "I am John Smooth" would be simple as writing "John Smooth", but in China, it would be "Smooth John."
Now that is off my chest....
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[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
3. Li Zheng. 1706-1746
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew _______________________.
I think the "????" was about your post, since to start a new line on the thread you must wait at least days withouth additions to it to post a new line
Wrong thread, post this one in the "List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage"
1. Li Zicheng (Shun Dynasty). 1644 - 1666?
2. Li Gu (Shun Dynasty). 1666 - 1706
3. Li Zheng (Shun Dynasty). 1706-1746
4. Li Zexian (Shun Dynasty). 1746-1752
[1] Li Zicheng is made the first Prince of Shun. After nearly being assassinated by an army coup by his own men - he establishes a "kingdom" within the Ming. He aids the Ming in defeating the Manchu and settles down to enjoy his "kingdom," until one fateful day while enjoying the royal gardens, he is assassinated by an unknown assailant. He is succeeded by his son Gu Zicheng, the child of Gao Guiying .
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many european powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son___________________.
2. Li Gu (Shun Dynasty). 1666 - 1706
3. Li Zheng (Shun Dynasty). 1706-1746
4. Li Zexian (Shun Dynasty). 1746-1752
[1] Li Zicheng is made the first Prince of Shun. After nearly being assassinated by an army coup by his own men - he establishes a "kingdom" within the Ming. He aids the Ming in defeating the Manchu and settles down to enjoy his "kingdom," until one fateful day while enjoying the royal gardens, he is assassinated by an unknown assailant. He is succeeded by his son Gu Zicheng, the child of Gao Guiying .
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many european powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son___________________.
Good point, but wasn't it nescessary that both lines "be in the same timeline, so to speak"? (although I may be understanding it wrong, admitedly)
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1. Li Zicheng (Shun Dynasty). 1644 - 1666?
2. Li Gu (Shun Dynasty). 1666 - 1706
3. Li Zheng (Shun Dynasty). 1706-1746
4. Li Zexian (Shun Dynasty). 1746-1752
5. Li Zhuren (Shun Dynasty). 1752-1777
[1] Li Zicheng is made the first Prince of Shun. After nearly being assassinated by an army coup by his own men - he establishes a "kingdom" within the Ming. He aids the Ming in defeating the Manchu and settles down to enjoy his "kingdom," until one fateful day while enjoying the royal gardens, he is assassinated by an unknown assailant. He is succeeded by his son Gu Zicheng, the child of Gao Guiying .
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many European powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a Russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son Zhuren.
[5] Li Zhuren came to rule a Dynasty that looked poised to unite China. With backing from the Russians, trade with the West through ports in the Bohai and Yellow Seas and his neighbors consumed with internal instability or general inability to threaten Shun many expected Zhuren's reign to be one of greatness. That is why it came as a surprise when Zhuren's first act was to expel all the Christian missionaries in his realm which had come with Russian and Western traders. Afterward, Zhuren marched his army into Korea where through a combination of mismanagement and ineffective leadership the entire Army was almost wiped out and only saved by the actions of a man known only as Gao (who Zhuren had exected as a threat to his power upon returning home). The next few years were spent crushing a rebellion over high taxes levied by Zhuren's predecessors to fund their campaigns. When those were done Zhuren once again invaded Korea, this time winning and installing one of his uncles on the Korean throne plunging Korea into a decades-long civil war. After that, however, Zhuren calmed and began to focus on more internal issues managing to reform Shun cementing Shun power in the more distant provinces from the capital. The damage was done though and finally, in 1777 he was deposed in a revolt by his ________, _________ and forced into exile in Russia where he died in 1788 or 1789 of tuberculosis.
2. Li Gu (Shun Dynasty). 1666 - 1706
3. Li Zheng (Shun Dynasty). 1706-1746
4. Li Zexian (Shun Dynasty). 1746-1752
5. Li Zhuren (Shun Dynasty). 1752-1777
[1] Li Zicheng is made the first Prince of Shun. After nearly being assassinated by an army coup by his own men - he establishes a "kingdom" within the Ming. He aids the Ming in defeating the Manchu and settles down to enjoy his "kingdom," until one fateful day while enjoying the royal gardens, he is assassinated by an unknown assailant. He is succeeded by his son Gu Zicheng, the child of Gao Guiying .
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many European powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a Russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son Zhuren.
[5] Li Zhuren came to rule a Dynasty that looked poised to unite China. With backing from the Russians, trade with the West through ports in the Bohai and Yellow Seas and his neighbors consumed with internal instability or general inability to threaten Shun many expected Zhuren's reign to be one of greatness. That is why it came as a surprise when Zhuren's first act was to expel all the Christian missionaries in his realm which had come with Russian and Western traders. Afterward, Zhuren marched his army into Korea where through a combination of mismanagement and ineffective leadership the entire Army was almost wiped out and only saved by the actions of a man known only as Gao (who Zhuren had exected as a threat to his power upon returning home). The next few years were spent crushing a rebellion over high taxes levied by Zhuren's predecessors to fund their campaigns. When those were done Zhuren once again invaded Korea, this time winning and installing one of his uncles on the Korean throne plunging Korea into a decades-long civil war. After that, however, Zhuren calmed and began to focus on more internal issues managing to reform Shun cementing Shun power in the more distant provinces from the capital. The damage was done though and finally, in 1777 he was deposed in a revolt by his ________, _________ and forced into exile in Russia where he died in 1788 or 1789 of tuberculosis.
Since you had put time into it, I won't ninja you. Go ahead. I claim after Peppe.
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1. Li Zicheng (Shun Dynasty). 1644 - 1666?
2. Li Gu (Shun Dynasty). 1666 - 1706
3. Li Zheng (Shun Dynasty). 1706-1746
4. Li Zexian (Shun Dynasty). 1746-1752
5. Li Zhuren (Shun Dynasty). 1752-1777
6. Gu Hao (Qing Dynasty). 1777-1808
[1] Li Zicheng is made the first Prince of Shun. After nearly being assassinated by an army coup by his own men - he establishes a "kingdom" within the Ming. He aids the Ming in defeating the Manchu and settles down to enjoy his "kingdom," until one fateful day while enjoying the royal gardens, he is assassinated by an unknown assailant. He is succeeded by his son Gu Zicheng, the child of Gao Guiying .
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many European powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a Russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son Zhuren.
[5] Li Zhuren came to rule a Dynasty that looked poised to unite China. With backing from the Russians, trade with the West through ports in the Bohai and Yellow Seas and his neighbors consumed with internal instability or general inability to threaten Shun many expected Zhuren's reign to be one of greatness. That is why it came as a surprise when Zhuren's first act was to expel all the Christian missionaries in his realm which had come with Russian and Western traders. Afterward, Zhuren marched his army into Korea where through a combination of mismanagement and ineffective leadership the entire Army was almost wiped out and only saved by the actions of a man known only as Gao (who Zhuren had executed as a threat to his power upon returning home). The next few years were spent crushing a rebellion over high taxes levied by Zhuren's predecessors to fund their campaigns. When those were done Zhuren once again invaded Korea, this time winning and installing one of his uncles on the Korean throne plunging Korea into a decades-long civil war. After that, however, Zhuren calmed and began to focus on more internal issues managing to reform Shun cementing Shun power in the more distant provinces from the capital. The damage was done though and finally, in 1777 he was deposed in a revolt by his nephew and general, Hao Yang and forced into exile in Russia where he died in 1788 or 1789 of tuberculosis.
[2] Li Gu, son of Gao Guiying, succeeded his father to the throne and almost instantly ran into trouble. Gu's reign started turbulently with his three uncles all raising armies to overthrow him. Gu, while a competent military commander was unable to fight them all off at once. He relied heavily upon troops sent by the Emperor to crush the Rebellions and thereafter remained on a voluntarily close leash. Nevertheless, Gu was an able administrator and recognized the threat the encroaching West presented to China. Contrary to popular belief Gu never actually met Peter the Great or even traveled much outside of Shun. However, agents on his behalf did make contact with Russian traders in Mongolia beginning a profitable trade relationship between the two. As the 1600s came to an end the decaying Ming Empire looked to be on the brink of collapse as the Heavenly Emperor was deposed by Nian Gengyao, a Manchu official who claimed the Mandate. Dozens of warlords rose against him and when Gu died in 1706 (most likely of gout even if official records suggest poison) many wondered if which side the prosperous Shun would join.
[3] Li Zheng, son of Li Gu by his father's second concubine, was placed onto the throne due to his military ability and friendship with Peter the Great. He spent the whole of his life in the saddle fighting warlords, Manchu soldiers, and a near coup by his older brother who was passed over. His wars against Nian Gengyao was noted by many historians as masterstrokes of Chinese warfare - with the introduction of Russian-style drill. Li Zheng had no children. Historians debate whether he was sterile or liked "soldier boys" a little too much (the LGBT+ community believes the latter). He is succeeded by his nephew, Zexian
[4] Li Zexian, nephew of Li Zheng by his uncle's half brother through Li Gu's main wife (confusing, isn't it), groomed by his uncle as his successor since a young age (as the King of Shun took him under his guard after his father's involvement on the near coup of Li Hong), his reign, while short, was one of relative success, as Zexian managed to consolidate Shun's control over northern China (with its border with Niang Genyao's Yun Dynasty being the Qinling-Huahie Line)and while he didn't claim the Mandate, he was considered by many European powers as being the ruler of a rising dynasty in China who was de facto considered as being an emperor. Married to the Grand Duchess Anna Petrovna, Tsesarevna of Russia and one of Peter the Great's daughters, he served as his uncle's first ambassador to Russia in 1742, staying for around six months in his sister-in-law's court at St. Petersburg (during which talks were made on the matter of the Russian Succession), and had a small harem (having only 3 concubines, one which was a Russian noblewoman, that were called his "mistresses" by his wife, serving as her ladies-in-waiting). He died in 1752 at age 54, and was succeeded by his son Zhuren.
[5] Li Zhuren came to rule a Dynasty that looked poised to unite China. With backing from the Russians, trade with the West through ports in the Bohai and Yellow Seas and his neighbors consumed with internal instability or general inability to threaten Shun many expected Zhuren's reign to be one of greatness. That is why it came as a surprise when Zhuren's first act was to expel all the Christian missionaries in his realm which had come with Russian and Western traders. Afterward, Zhuren marched his army into Korea where through a combination of mismanagement and ineffective leadership the entire Army was almost wiped out and only saved by the actions of a man known only as Gao (who Zhuren had executed as a threat to his power upon returning home). The next few years were spent crushing a rebellion over high taxes levied by Zhuren's predecessors to fund their campaigns. When those were done Zhuren once again invaded Korea, this time winning and installing one of his uncles on the Korean throne plunging Korea into a decades-long civil war. After that, however, Zhuren calmed and began to focus on more internal issues managing to reform Shun cementing Shun power in the more distant provinces from the capital. The damage was done though and finally, in 1777 he was deposed in a revolt by his nephew and general, Hao Yang and forced into exile in Russia where he died in 1788 or 1789 of tuberculosis.
[6]Born as the son of one of Li Zhuren's full sisters (and his twin), the Princess Weichang, and one of his main generals, Hao Gu (originally a peasant who befriended the then Crown Prince) in 1745, his younger years are remarkably unknown, although records say in passing that he stayed most of his time with his grandmother, the Queen Mother Anna (1708-1780), on her secluded palace in the capital of Xi'an (as her son, while distrustful christians, wasn't capable of exiling his mother and instead imprisoned her), and he only appears on them some seven years before his rebellion when he married a daughter of the Duke of Yangsheng , shortly after serving on his uncle's armies sent to help in the bloodbath that was the Korean-Shun War.
Something of a cunning politician, he slowly built a power base under the rule of his uncle, who grew more hated as the years went on, and in 1777 started a rebellion with a large peasant and noble support (besides the support of his cousin, Empress Ekatherina II), deposing Zhuren and declaring himself the first Emperor of Qing ("pure"), taking the name Yongzheng (meaning "harmonious justice"), with his reign's early years being focused on crushing Zhuren's last supporters and any conflicting claimant (which meant many uncles and cousins of the Emperor where "dealt with" in the process).
While a capable military eader. His three decades in the throne of Qing where focused mostly on solving the damages made by his grandfather to the nation, having to deal not with independent provinces or nobles but with unrest over the large taxes and the famine that occured in the late 1770s (one of the resons why his rebellion occured), and dealing also with ending his uncle's failed foreign ventures, stopping his support for the Shun Dynasty of Korea (which fell to the Gojeong in less than a decade after that) and reestablishing relations with Russia and other christian powers (although he had some healthy mistrust of them, being the believer of a heavily sincretized and nearly polytheistic version of the Russian Orthodox Church with chinese folk religions, and while merchants were permitted, the misionaries, mostly of catholic stock, were not). While he didn't war with the dynasties of southern china (which was still divided between warlords, while the Yun Court only controlled the provinces around Nanjing), he did work on consolidating his power on northern China, subjugating Mongolia and the Tarim Basing and turning the Asin-Gioro's Khanate into a “shared vassal” with Russia, besides making some border and trade deals with his cousin
He died in 1808 at age 63 and was succeeded by his grandson, ______________.
1. Peter IV (House of Romanov). 1762-1770
2. Ekatherina II (House of Romanov). 1770-1825
[1]Born the Prince Yijun of Chun, Li Zexian's fourth son by Anna Petrovna in 1735 , he originally was simply a minor prince of the Shun Dynasty until the visit of his father to Russia in 1742, when he and the childless Empress Elizabeth (who succeeded her childless brother, Peter III, which had succeded their childless nephew, Peter II)agreed on making him her heir, with the young prince being made the heir of Russia and sent to St Petersburg a year later, being batized as "Peter Feodorevich Romanov". His reign, was generally unremarkable, and he died of a stroke in 1770, being succeded by his daughter, Ekaterina.
[2]Peter IV’s only child by his wife, the remarkable Sophia of Anhalt-Zerbst, she ascended at the age of 16 to the throne of Russia and was during her early reign supported by her mother (who basically served as a mix of prime minister, spymaster and professor to the young Empress) and her network of lovers and allies.
Although disliking war and bloodshed, she had a natural knack for it, and her reign was marked by it, as over her 55 years on the throne she fought off five different rebellions (a noble, three cousins and a bastard brother, all of which claimed she, who possesed striking oriental looks and was once called by the empress elizabeth "Peter if he had breasts", was the result of her mother's affairs), brought Russia to war twice against the Ottomans, the first to defend her husbands Georgian homeland and the other to end the Crimean Khanate, and entered the Great European Wars (which lasted from 1789 to 1816 with the French Civil War, the Revolutionary Wars, the Napoleonic Wars and the French Folly), all of which brought new territories to the empire (she was extremely fond of Finland)
Something of a liberal (she was, like Romanovs ought to be, an autocract at heart), during her reign Ekatherina created the groundwork for the end of serfdom (which would end shortly after her death) and used her large brood of children to create the “Imperial Tsardoms”, autonomous states within the empire ruled by her children and their branches.
Married to one of the Georgian Prince (and later king) George Bragationi of Kartli and Kakheti (1747-1800), whom she met in 1772 (he was a widower with 3 living children, she somehow fell in love with him) , she died of renal problems in 1825, and was succeded by her _______________ and groomed successor, __________________.
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I was thinking of a dynasty change and you already did that. I don't have any other ideas right now.
(to try and revive this thread) Edward VI lives just long enough to produce some progeny
1547 - 1569: Edward VI (House of Tudor)
The only son and child of Henry VIII and his third wife, Jane Seymour, Edward was one of the youngest monarchs in English history, ascending to the throne at the age of 9, and ruled during the time that its formation as a truly protestant nation occurred, with the Church of England becoming more in line with those of Sweden and Denmark. A sickly man, many said he survived instead of living, suffering from some sort of disease every year of his lifetime, finally dying from tuberculosis, a disease he had lived with for years, at age 31.
He also had two half sisters (who were called bastards but had been born as princesses of England in his father's two previous marriages), the ladies Mary and Elizabeth, the first (made Duchess of Bedford after giving birth to a bastard son by a groom six years prior), died of a disease in the bowels at age 45, and the second married Lord Robert Dudley and later was made Duchess of Leinster by her own right, sent in exile to Ireland for some years, she was in many ways responsible for spreading the protestant faith among the Irish nobility and people, even though many did not follow Anglicanism per se, she served as Lord Deputy of Ireland for years for her brother and his succesors
Married to Lady Jane Grey, in 1554, after his death she served as regent to their son, ___________
1547 - 1569: Edward VI (House of Tudor)
The only son and child of Henry VIII and his third wife, Jane Seymour, Edward was one of the youngest monarchs in English history, ascending to the throne at the age of 9, and ruled during the time that its formation as a truly protestant nation occurred, with the Church of England becoming more in line with those of Sweden and Denmark. A sickly man, many said he survived instead of living, suffering from some sort of disease every year of his lifetime, finally dying from tuberculosis, a disease he had lived with for years, at age 31.
He also had two half sisters (who were called bastards but had been born as princesses of England in his father's two previous marriages), the ladies Mary and Elizabeth, the first (made Duchess of Bedford after giving birth to a bastard son by a groom six years prior), died of a disease in the bowels at age 45, and the second married Lord Robert Dudley and later was made Duchess of Leinster by her own right, sent in exile to Ireland for some years, she was in many ways responsible for spreading the protestant faith among the Irish nobility and people, even though many did not follow Anglicanism per se, she served as Lord Deputy of Ireland for years for her brother and his succesors
Married to Lady Jane Grey, in 1554, after his death she served as regent to their son, ___________
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1569-1576: Stephen II (House of Tudor)
Stephen II of England's brief reign was turbulent. His father having passed when he was less than two years old, the noblemen of the realm immediately began jockeying for power. In 1573, after failing to prevent the annexation of Northumberland by the Scots at the behest of Thomas Percy, Queen Jane was removed by a coalition of nobles and replaced with the Earl of Warwick. However, Warwick's government proved to be equally inept and in 1575 he was removed from power after a brief civil war. Stephen took ill and died (not at all related to his new, noble-appointed chef, of course), and without a male successor the selection of new king was given over to Parliament. Parliament appointed ____________ to take the throne.
Stephen II of England's brief reign was turbulent. His father having passed when he was less than two years old, the noblemen of the realm immediately began jockeying for power. In 1573, after failing to prevent the annexation of Northumberland by the Scots at the behest of Thomas Percy, Queen Jane was removed by a coalition of nobles and replaced with the Earl of Warwick. However, Warwick's government proved to be equally inept and in 1575 he was removed from power after a brief civil war. Stephen took ill and died (not at all related to his new, noble-appointed chef, of course), and without a male successor the selection of new king was given over to Parliament. Parliament appointed ____________ to take the throne.
'The Cold-Hearted Swot'
What if Edward VI lived just long enough to produce an heir?
1547 - 1569: Edward VI (House of Tudor) [1]
1569 - 1576: Stephen II (House of Tudor) [2]
1576 - 1579: Henry IX (House of Arundel) [3]
[1] The only son and child of Henry VIII and his third wife, Jane Seymour, Edward was one of the youngest monarchs in English history, ascending to the throne at the age of 9, and ruled during the time that its formation as a truly protestant nation occurred, with the Church of England becoming more in line with those of Sweden and Denmark. A sickly man, many said he survived instead of living, suffering from some sort of disease every year of his lifetime, finally dying from tuberculosis, a disease he had lived with for years, at age 31. He also had two half sisters (who were called bastards but had been born as princesses of England in his father's two previous marriages), the ladies Mary and Elizabeth, the first (made Duchess of Bedford after giving birth to a bastard son by a groom six years prior), died of a disease in the bowels at age 45, and the second married Lord Robert Dudley and later was made Duchess of Leinster by her own right, sent in exile to Ireland for some years, she was in many ways responsible for spreading the protestant faith among the Irish nobility and people, even though many did not follow Anglicanism per se, she served as Lord Deputy of Ireland for years for her brother and his successors. Married to Lady Jane Grey in 1554, after his death she served as regent to their son, Stephen II.
[2] Stephen II of England's brief reign was turbulent. His father having passed when he was less than two years old, the noblemen of the realm immediately began jockeying for power. In 1573, after failing to prevent the annexation of Northumberland by the Scots at the behest of Thomas Percy, Queen Jane was removed by a coalition of nobles and replaced with the Earl of Warwick. However, Warwick's government proved to be equally inept and in 1575 he was removed from power after a brief civil war. Stephen took ill and died (not at all related to his new, noble-appointed chef, of course), and without a male successor the selection of a new king was given over to Parliament. Parliament appointed Henry Fitzalan, 12th Earl of Arundel to take the throne.
[3] The election of Henry IX by Parliament was highly controversial, and largely a result of the fractious political infighting throughout the reign of Stephen II. The 12th Earl of Arundel had been a near-permanent fixture in the courts of the Tudor monarchs, and had shrewdly supported the Regency Council of Jane to maintain a strong political position. However, upon the loss of Northumberland and the humiliation of the Earl of Warwick, Henry was courted by his supporters in Parliament as a neutral candidate around which the nobles of England could unite - and his pragmatic ambition played to their demands. Despite being 63 at the time of his coronation, Henry was able to point to an heir (also called Henry, Baron Maltravers, born in 1538), while his two daughters were well-wedded into the heart of the nobility with children of their own. Coming to the throne in 1576, Henry IX was a divisive figure and often unaccepted by those who favoured his rival candidates for the throne. Many of these candidates remained a threat upon his death just three years later in 1579.
What if Edward VI lived just long enough to produce an heir?
1547 - 1569: Edward VI (House of Tudor) [1]
1569 - 1576: Stephen II (House of Tudor) [2]
1576 - 1579: Henry IX (House of Arundel) [3]
[1] The only son and child of Henry VIII and his third wife, Jane Seymour, Edward was one of the youngest monarchs in English history, ascending to the throne at the age of 9, and ruled during the time that its formation as a truly protestant nation occurred, with the Church of England becoming more in line with those of Sweden and Denmark. A sickly man, many said he survived instead of living, suffering from some sort of disease every year of his lifetime, finally dying from tuberculosis, a disease he had lived with for years, at age 31. He also had two half sisters (who were called bastards but had been born as princesses of England in his father's two previous marriages), the ladies Mary and Elizabeth, the first (made Duchess of Bedford after giving birth to a bastard son by a groom six years prior), died of a disease in the bowels at age 45, and the second married Lord Robert Dudley and later was made Duchess of Leinster by her own right, sent in exile to Ireland for some years, she was in many ways responsible for spreading the protestant faith among the Irish nobility and people, even though many did not follow Anglicanism per se, she served as Lord Deputy of Ireland for years for her brother and his successors. Married to Lady Jane Grey in 1554, after his death she served as regent to their son, Stephen II.
[2] Stephen II of England's brief reign was turbulent. His father having passed when he was less than two years old, the noblemen of the realm immediately began jockeying for power. In 1573, after failing to prevent the annexation of Northumberland by the Scots at the behest of Thomas Percy, Queen Jane was removed by a coalition of nobles and replaced with the Earl of Warwick. However, Warwick's government proved to be equally inept and in 1575 he was removed from power after a brief civil war. Stephen took ill and died (not at all related to his new, noble-appointed chef, of course), and without a male successor the selection of a new king was given over to Parliament. Parliament appointed Henry Fitzalan, 12th Earl of Arundel to take the throne.
[3] The election of Henry IX by Parliament was highly controversial, and largely a result of the fractious political infighting throughout the reign of Stephen II. The 12th Earl of Arundel had been a near-permanent fixture in the courts of the Tudor monarchs, and had shrewdly supported the Regency Council of Jane to maintain a strong political position. However, upon the loss of Northumberland and the humiliation of the Earl of Warwick, Henry was courted by his supporters in Parliament as a neutral candidate around which the nobles of England could unite - and his pragmatic ambition played to their demands. Despite being 63 at the time of his coronation, Henry was able to point to an heir (also called Henry, Baron Maltravers, born in 1538), while his two daughters were well-wedded into the heart of the nobility with children of their own. Coming to the throne in 1576, Henry IX was a divisive figure and often unaccepted by those who favoured his rival candidates for the throne. Many of these candidates remained a threat upon his death just three years later in 1579.
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