List of CS Presidents

I don't see Jackson as a politician really. More Longstreet than him. But if it's Jackson and since Lee dies in 1870 then the third president would be Jackson
 
1861-1867: Jefferson Davis/ Alexander Stephens (Independent)
1867-1873: John C. Breckinridge/ Hunter (Democratic)
1873-1879: Robert Hunter/ George Washington Custis Lee (Democratic)

This would be my suggestion, army officers like Lee and Stonewall will still be needed to train up the forces to make sure a revenge attack is not started.
 
Not in a million years.

I could see Forrest as President and being a rather good one, probably a lot like Andrew Jackson from the reactions he got from the planter class. But I could see him being elected as a rebuke to said planter's by poor and middle class whites who outnumber those at the top greatly and would be the founder of the "opposition" party.

Note on Lee. He had a mercifully short illness before he died. But he wasn't a great parent and his kids were all kinda mediocrities. His son as VP is a bit of a Palin choice.
 

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I could see Forrest as President and being a rather good one, probably a lot like Andrew Jackson from the reactions he got from the planter class. But I could see him being elected as a rebuke to said planter's by poor and middle class whites who outnumber those at the top greatly and would be the founder of the "opposition" party.

He was never involved in politics IOTL. He was interested in making money and, when the war came, to fighting. Why should his attitude be any different in a CS victory timeline?

(I really shouldn't post in this thread, as House of the Proud deals largely with the 1867 election in an independent Confederacy and I don't want to give out any spoilers.)
 
I think he held public office before the war, something like city council(biography I browsed through years before so I don't remember the details) and was brutally honest. He also led the kkk but then became a speaker for black rights, so he did have some political instincts.

In a successful Confederacy I could see him being formidable. Like the idea of Forrest /Cleburne.
 
What about some of these fellows?:

Jefferson Davis 1862-68

John C. Breckinridge (Whig) 1868-1874

James Longstreet (Whig) 1874-1880

William H. F. Lee (Whig) 1880-1886


Wade Hampton III (Democrat) 1886-1892

William Haselden Ellerbe (Democrat) 1892-1898

Yeah I know, Whigs and Democrats is cliche, shoot me :p
 
What about some of these fellows?:

Jefferson Davis 1862-68

John C. Breckinridge (Whig) 1868-1874

James Longstreet (Whig) 1874-1880

William H. F. Lee (Whig) 1880-1886


Wade Hampton III (Democrat) 1886-1892

William Haselden Ellerbe (Democrat) 1892-1898

Yeah I know, Whigs and Democrats is cliche, shoot me :p
Ellerbe wouldn't have even been old enough to be president until 1897
 
John C. Breckinridge (Whig) 1868-1874
Yeah I know, Whigs and Democrats is cliche, shoot me :p

John C. Breckinridge was a die hard Democrat and would not want to be called a whig a party linked to Abraham Lincoln.

Can I suggest have Democratic Party staying the hard-right wing party similar to the Southern Democratic Party in the 1860 Election, this party would not have opposition in the presidential elections similar to Washington for the first 3-5 elections. While in the Confederate senate will have strong democrats and soft democrats who over time will gain a larger divide and split.

While having a central party called Liberty and Honor, based on a party that isn't in full support of abolishing slavery or reforming the Union, but wanting to slowly integrate new borne into the southern way.

In the late 1880s-early 1900s, having a right wing party for poor workers who want jobs that are taken by slaves, such as a Labors National Party.
 
There's pretty strong consensus in the South on the subject of slavery, so I think the main dividing issue for a surviving Confederacy would be nationalism vs states' rights, led by Davis and Lee (among others) in the one corner and Stephens and Brown (among others). The nationalists would probably be the stronger party, coming out of a war where the national government had to assume unprecedented powers to survive, and Lee and Davis's prestige would be untouchable. Could probably engineer a very liberal interpretation of the more states' rights-y clauses of the Confederate Constitution to ensure the nation could do what it needed to defend itself.
 
Jefferson Davis 1862-68

John C. Breckinridge (Democrat) 1868-1874

James Longstreet (Democrat) 1874-1880

William H. F. Lee (Democrat) 1880-1886


Wade Hampton III (Southern) 1886-1892

Benjamin Tillman (Southern) 1892-1898


Ok revised list and party names. The idea is Breckinridge (as the most skilled politician of the lot) would probably form a party apparatus which would propel him to power, and his likely opponents would be stuck in the mire of genteel Southern prejudice against party politics until they wised up. The idea for the Southern Party is a nationalist party which appeals to the ideals of Southern superiority and a sort of racial/populist bent which seeks to enforce the status quo of 1861 despite that really being impossible.
 
Constitution of 1861, President of the Confederate States of America
1. Jefferson Davis, 1861-1867
2. Robert E. Lee, 1867-1870
3. William J. Hardee, 1870-1873
4. George Washington Custis Lee, 1873-1877
Constitution of 1877, Commander-in-Chief, Custodian of Democracy, Guarantor of Justice, King and President of the Confederate States of America
5. George I (III), 1870-1902
Constitution of 1902, His Majesty's Servant of the Public, President of the Confederate States of America
6. Andrew Ross, 1902-1908 (Nationalist)
7. Robert Carter Glass, 1908-1914 (Nationalist)
8. B.B. Dunn, 1914-1920 (Democratic)
9. Jared Sanders, 1920-1926 (Democratic)
10. George Suggs, 1926-1932 (Democratic)
11. Robert Carter Glass, 1932-1938 (Nationalist)
12. Huey P. Long, 1938-1944 (Nationalist)
13. Earl Long, 1944-1950 (Nationalist)
14. Harry Truman, 1950-1956 (Democratic)
15. William Waller Rayburn, 1956-1960 (Democratic)
16. George Smathers, 1960-1962 (Democratic)
17. E.W. McCalling, 1968-1974 (Democratic)
18. Alexander Collins, 1974-1980 (Nationalist)
19. Walter Mengden, 1980-1986 (Democratic)
20. Eldridge W. Blythe, 1986-1992 (Nationalist)
21. Dick Berkley, 1992-1998 (Democratic)
22. Kirk Fordice, 1998-2004 (Democratic)
23. Ray Mabus, 2004-2010 (Nationalist)
24. Ron Kirk, 2010-2016 (Nationalist)
25. Vince McMahon, 2016-> (Democratic)

Constitution of 1877, Commander-in-Chief, Custodian of Democracy, Guarantor of Justice, King and President of the Confederate States of America
(1. George I, 1776-1799)*
(2. George II, 1799-1854)
(3. Robert I, 1854-1870)
1. (4.) George I (III), 1870-1902
Constitution of 1902, Guardian of the Constitution, Custodian of Democracy, Guarantor of Justice, Commander-in-Chief, King of the Confederate States of America
1. (4.) George I (III), 1902-1913
2. (5.) Robert I (II), 1913-1922
3. (6.) George II (IV), 1922-1955
4. (7.) Robert II (III), 1955-2001
5. (8.) Robert III (IV), 2001->

*- Post-1950s tradition lists the monarchy as originating with George Washington in 1776, becoming the Washington-Lee dynasty through Robert E. Lee in 1854.
 
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