List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Beata Beatrix - The Great Compromiser
  • The Great Compromiser

    Presidents of the United States of America (First Washington Government: 1789 - 1870)

    1841 - 1841: William H. Harrison / John Tyler (Whig)

    1840: Martin Van Buren / none (Democratic)
    1841 - 1841: John Tyler / vacant (Whig)
    1841 - 1845: John Tyler / vacant (Independent)
    1845 - 1849: Henry Clay / Theodore Frelinghuysen (Whig)

    1844: James K. Polk / George M. Dallas (Democratic)
    1849 - 1855: William L. Marcy / John K. Kane (Democratic)
    1848: Daniel Webster / John Gayle (Whig); Joshua R. Giddings / James G. Birney (Liberty)
    1852: Samuel Finley Vinton / Waddy Thompson, Jr. (Whig); Joshua R. Giddings / Marcus Morton (Liberty)

    1855 - 1856: John K. Kane / vacant (Democratic)
    1856 - 1858: James Murray Mason / vacant (Democratic)
    1856 (cancelled): John K. Kane / Benjamin Fitzpatrick (Democratic); Henry Clay, Jr. / Alexander Hugh Holmes Stuart (Whig); David Wilmot / Caleb Cushing (Liberty)
    1858 - 1860: Henry Clay, Jr. / Alexander Hugh Holmes Stuart (Whig)
    1857: James Murray Mason / Henry C. Murphy (Democratic); David Wilmot / Caleb Cushing (Liberty)
    1860 - 1862: Henry Clay, Jr. / vacant (Whig)
    1862 - 1870: Andrew Jackson Donelson / George Washington Woodward (Democratic)

    1861: Samuel Fessenden / John Van Buren (Liberty); John J. Crittenden / none (Whig)
    1865: William Czar Bradley / Abraham Lincoln (Liberty); various Whigs

    1870 - 1870: William Porcher Miles / James S. Rollins (Democratic)
    1869: John Van Buren / William D. Kelley (Liberty); William Porcher Miles / James S. Rollins (Democratic)

    Presidents of the United States of America (Second Washington Government: 1870 - present)

    1870 - present: William Porcher Miles / James S. Rollins (Democratic)

    Presidents of the United States of America (Philadelphia Government: 1870 - present)

    1870 - present: John Van Buren / William D. Kelley (Liberty)

    = died in office
    ‡ = expelled from party / resigned


    Henry Clay had tried to reach the Presidency twice before - in 1824, and then in 1832, but, as the proverb said, "third time lucky," and so it was that in 1844, Henry Clay narrowly managed to defeat the 'dark horse' Democrat James K. Polk. Clay's presidency would be a fateful one. In his inaugural address, he reiterated his promise that he would not pursue an annexationist path, but, rather, would follow a policy of "free and republican association with our sister-republics."

    Immediately, the plans to annex the Republic of Texas and expand into the Oregon Country were scrapped - Clay had Secretary of State Daniel Webster's Jeffersonian Memorandum sent directly to President Anson Jones of Texas and to the Oregonian Executive Council, which, emulating President Thomas Jefferson, declared President Clay's unequivocal support for the continued independence and strength of Oregon and Texas. While this action would send Texas and Oregon into political turmoil (leading to the impeachment of the pro-annexationist Texian President Anson Jones and the victory of the solidly pro-independence Osbourne Russell over the pro-annexation George Abernethy in the first Oregonian presidential election) President Clay was content.

    Turning away from foreign affairs, Clay looked to do what he had wished to for a long time - reestablish the Bank of the United States. Clay's proposals to this effect had been vetoed by President Tyler - indeed, that had led to his expulsion from the Whig Party. While the Whig majority in the Senate had been lost, it was still narrow enough that with Vice President Frelinghuysen's tie-breaking vote, the Bank was given a new charter.

    But other than this, it seemed as though Henry Clay did not know what to do with his presidency. These actions having been completed, Clay, it seemed, did very little else. Come 1848, and the Democrats, still incensed over Clay's opposition to annexation, nominated the pro-expansionist William L. Marcy, a former Senator and Governor of New York. While Marcy was a Northerner, he was sufficiently pro-slavery for the South to be appeased, and his running mate, the rather notorious Pennsylvanian Judge John K. Kane, an arch-Jacksonian, was the same way. The Whigs, meanwhile, chose Secretary of State Daniel Webster, who was paired with a Southern running mate, John Gayle, the former Governor of Alabama. However, the pro-slavery leanings of the two tickets caused many anti-slavery Whigs and Democrats to bolt to the Liberty Party, which nominated Joshua R. Giddings, a Whig congressman and, for Giddings' running mate, the de facto founder of the party, James G. Birney, was chosen.

    "Marcy, Kane, Marcy, Kane - they'll make America great again," went the refrain, and, sure enough, Marcy's pro-annexation platform was enough to win him the election over Webster, while Giddings garnered nearly 6 percent of the vote, serving as a spoiler, which greatly overjoyed the Libertarians, as members of the Liberty Party came to be called. Marcy spent the first two years of his administration attempting to "right the wrongs" of the Clay administration, which essentially translated to annexing Texas and Oregon.

    While President Moseley Baker of Texas politely but emphatically declined annexation, with his nation agreeing, the people of Oregon were much more receptive to annexation. American money essentially bought the defeat of President Asa L. Lovejoy and the victory of the pro-annexation William Gilpin in 1851, who campaigned on a platform of annexing Oregon to the United States. Within weeks of his victory, Secretary of State Robert J. Walker was in Corvallis, where he and Gilpin signed the Treaty of Corvallis, which ended the Republic of Oregon, and remade it into the Territories of Twality, Yamhill, Clackamas and Champoeg, which had formerly been the four Districts of Oregon, with Gilpin appointed Governor-General of the four Territories.

    Turning his attention to the south of Oregon, Marcy sought to buy California, to give the United States more Pacific dominion. He sent Secretary Walker to Mexico City, where he offered to pay Mexico up to $30 million to buy California. However, when Walker arrived, he found an envoy from Texas prepared to do the same. In the waiting room (it is said), the two men negotiated on which country would take which part of California - ultimately, the only tenable proposal was for California to be divided along the 37th parallel, with the United States taking the northern half (which was connected directly to the Champoeg Territory), and Texas the southern. After negotiation, cajoling, and even threats of military force, the Mexicans finally acquiesced to the Treaty of Mexico City. Marcy joyfully renamed the portion of California the United States had bought 'Jefferson,' and proclaimed the capital to be Yerba Buena, while the Texians kept the Mexican names. Indeed, many said that William L. Marcy was the second Jefferson; in terms of sheer land acquisition, the only president to surpass Marcy is Jefferson.

    His land acquisitions proving popular, Marcy won reelection in a landslide over Whig Congressman Samuel Finley Vinton and his running mate, Waddy Thompson, the former Minister to Mexico, although Joshua Giddings doubled his percentage of votes to nearly 12 percent, and won a faithless elector in Vermont, with Massachusetts Governor Marcus Morton having been chosen to attract anti-slavery Democrats. During his second term, President Marcy also passed a number of pro-slavery laws, most of which had to do with slavery in the 'Five Territories' (Twality, Yamhill, Clackamas, Champoeg, and Jefferson), as they came to be known. Against the objections of the Libertarians, and of many Whigs, Marcy allowed slavery in all five, with the rather logically named Five Territories Act, despite the fact that none were exactly conducive to slavery. This also effectively ended the Missouri Compromise, leading former President Clay to mourn that "the republic's end is nigh."

    Soon after signing the Five Territories Act, President Marcy fell sick, and died, on July 4th, 1855, leading many Southerners to theorize that he had been poisoned by the Libertarians. While there is no truth in this claim - after all, Marcy was nearly 70, and was in ill health - it severely inflamed relations between North and South. Vice President Kane assumed the presidency, as John Tyler had done, and sought to govern much as Marcy had done. As 1855 turned into 1856, President Kane sought the nomination of his party, which he received, choosing Alabama Senator Benjamin Fitzpatrick as his running mate. The Whigs, soon afterwards, nominated the (comparatively) young Senator from Kentucky, and the son of former President Clay, Henry Clay, Jr, who pledged that he, like his father, would be a "great compromiser," and would "restore amity between the North and South." However, to placate fears that he was not, as the Whig Senator of Louisiana, Judah Benjamin, called him, "a Libertarian in Whig's clothing," he chose Virginia Governor Alexander Hugh Holmes Stuart. The Libertarians held their party's convention last, and chose David Wilmot, a congressman from Pennsylvania who had forcefully led the opposition to Marcy and Kane.

    In the early October of 1856, President Kane died. James Murray Mason, of Virginia, the president pro tempore of the Senate, became Acting President, as the Presidential Succession Act of 1792 dictated. With the President's death occurring in election year, Acting President Mason dictated that the election was to be held in the December of 1857, in vague accordance with Section 10 of the Presidential Succession Act. When noted Libertarian Samuel Fessenden sued the United States over this decision, the Supreme Court ruled that Mason's actions were constitutional, because Kane's term was not technically his, and so the term was not technically about to expire, as Article 10 dictated. Many Libertarians found this logic to be absurd, and soon, polling places sprung up in the North, where angry Libertarians cast their ballots for Wilmot, who also decried this decision. These men soon came to be known as the 'Fifty-Sixers,' and they would hold presidential elections in what they deemed to be the "mandated" years - 1856, 1860, 1864, and 1868.

    With Mason remaining in the presidency for one more year, the country became more and more divided. Henry Clay, Jr.'s calls for amity proved more and more tempting to the nation, while the Fifty-Sixers became more and more militant in their support of Wilmot. Acting President Mason, for his part, was nominated by the Democrats, and chose New York Congressman Henry C. Murphy as his running mate, as an attempt to appeal to Northerners. Ultimately, Clay won the presidency, becoming the youngest-ever president.

    When historians look back on Henry Clay, Jr., they see a man who sacrificed his party and himself to attempt to save his country from civil war. Clay was narrowly able to repeal the Five Territories Act, and effectively restore the Missouri Compromise, but soon became a pariah within his own party. His Vice President, who had supported the Five Territories Act, resigned in 1860, and while Clay sought to pass an a Constitutional amendment to outlaw any federal action regarding slavery, but it failed, ignominiously. By 1862, Clay faced impeachment from his own party, but was spared that final humiliation when he declined to run for reelection and swore to never be involved in politics again. Clay did not even attend his successor's inauguration - he returned home to Ashland, his family's estate and drank.

    The Whigs knew that they could not win in 1861. Although they had repudiated President Clay, much of the Southern portion of their party had effectively bolted to the Democrats; indeed, Alexander Hugh Holmes Stuart, the former Vice President, was a candidate at the 1861 Democratic Convention. They were forced to nominate Clay's Secretary of State, John J. Crittenden, for President. Crittenden was an old man, the last, dying breath of his party, and, in what was perhaps an act of mercy on his part, he ran without a running mate, as Martin Van Buren had done in 1840, to spare his colleagues the humiliation.

    The Democrats chose Andrew Jackson Donelson, Andrew Jackson's nephew, and a Senator from Tennessee, who chose Pennsylvania Governor George Washington Woodward as his running mate. The Libertarians, meanwhile, chose Samuel Fessenden, the leader of the Fifty-Sixers and now Governor of Maine, and paired him with John Van Buren, Secretary of State for New York, and the son of President Martin Van Buren, who had become a member of the Liberty Party later in life. People were nostalgic for the days of Jackson and Marcy, and with the Whigs relegated to miserable obscurity, only barely winning Kentucky, Donelson won the presidency.

    Donelson had an impossible job - unite a country practically falling apart by the seams. Desperately, he tried to create a sense of national unity by fighting a war with Spain - when several American sailors were detained in Cuba, Donelson swore to defend them, and declared war on Spain. The war was grueling - tens of thousands of Americans died in Cuba. By 1864, the territory was won, with a hero of the war, General Robert E. Lee, appointed Military Governor, although many found themselves asking why the United States had fought this war. With the Whig party slowly dying, Donelson's main opposition came in the form of the Libertarians, who were adamantly opposed to the Cuban War. By 1865, the Whigs were too divided to nominate a single ticket, and so various state tickets were nominated, while Vermont Senator William Czar Bradley and Illinois Congressman Abraham Lincoln, both solid opponents of the war, were nominated by the Libertarians. Donelson narrowly won reelection, but it was a very close thing.

    As 1869 came around, it was clear that the United States was very close to unravelling. The Whig Party having finally dissolved, the Libertarians and the Democrats were the only major two parties. The Libertarian nominee, New York Governor John Van Buren, was one of the most strident abolitionists the party had ever nominated. His Democratic opponent, Congressman William Porcher Miles, meanwhile, was practically his opposite. Miles' running mate, Missouri Governor James S. Rollins, was a former Whig who, upon his party's dissolution, joined the Democrats. Van Buren won the popular vote by a considerable margin, but neither he nor Miles won a majority in the electoral college, and so the election was decided by Congress, which, with a slight Democratic majority, chose Miles and Rollins.

    Van Buren, amid a large throng of Fifty-Sixers, declared the result to be illegitimate, and that he would be assuming the presidency. The North backed him, and he began governing in Philadelphia, the old capitol of the United States. Miles, meanwhile, elected by "the slavers' Congress," as Van Buren called it, governed in Washington, neither government recognizing the other.

    The United States has truly become a house divided.
     
    Accurateworldwar - Mmm, Harry Potter crossovers...
  • List of British Prime Ministers

    John Major (1990-1997)
    Notes: Presided prior to the Second Wizarding War.
    Tony Blair (1997-2007)
    Notes: Presided over the Second Wizarding War, and worked to minimize damage caused by Voldemort and his supporters during the war. Led the New Revival, which sought to more closely link the Muggle government with the government of Wizarding Britain.
    Gordon Brown (2007-2010)
    Notes: Continued the New Revival policy of Prime Minister Blair.
    David Cameron (2010-2016)
    Notes: Was largely absent in dealing with the government of Wizarding Britain, which was undergoing reforms at the time.
    Theresa May (2016-2024)
    Notes: Worked to enact the departure of Muggle Britain from the European Union, and neglected to include Wizarding Britain in Brexit negotiations.
    Hermione Granger (2024-2032)
    Notes: Resigned from her position as Minister of Magic to run for a seat in the Muggle Parliament in 2011. She became the Leader of the Labour Party in 2020, in a leadership election against Jeremy Corbyn after the general election. Granger went on to defeat Prime minister May in the 2024 general election, and served as the second wizard Prime Minister (after Winston Churchill).
     
    Kovalenko - Literally OTL
  • Don't mind me.

    1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower / Richard Nixon (Republican)
    1952: Adlai Stevenson / John Sparkman (Democratic)
    1956: Adlai Stevenson / Estes Kefauver (Democratic)
    1961-1963: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon Johnson (Democratic)
    1960: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
    1963-1965: Lyndon Johnson / vacant (Democratic)
    1965-1969: Lyndon Johnson / Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)

    1964: Barry Goldwater / William E. Miller (Republican)
    1969-1973: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew (Republican)
    1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
    1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (Democratic)
    1973-1974: Richard Nixon / vacant (Republican)
    1974-1974: Richard Nixon / Gerald R. Ford (Republican)

    1974-1974: Gerald R. Ford / vacant (Republican)
    1974-1977:
    Gerald R. Ford / Nelson A. Rockefeller (Republican)
    1977-1981: James E. Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)

    1976: Gerald R. Ford / Bob Dole (Republican)
    1981-1989: Ronald Reagan / George Bush Sr. (Republican)
    1980: James E. Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
    1984: Walter Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)
    1989-1993: George Bush Sr. / Dan Quayle (Republican)
    1988: Michael Dukakis / Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
    1993-2001: Bill Clinton / Al Gore (Democratic)
    1992: George Bush Sr. / Dan Quayle (Republican)
    1996: Bob Dole / Jack Kemp (Republican)
    2001-2009: George Bush Jr. / Dick Cheney (Republican)
    2000: Al Gore / Joseph Lieberman (Democratic)
    2004: John Kerry / John Edwards (Democratic)
    2009-2017: Barack Obama / Joseph R. Biden (Democratic)
    2008: John McCain / Sarah Palin (Republican)
    2012: Mitt Romney / Paul Ryan (Republican)
    2017-2025: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican)
    2016: Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine (Democratic)
     
    Bolt451 - Hypothetical PMs
  • Bolt451

    Gone Fishin'
    It would be something to see a disgraced Governor of Arkansas become a two-term president. I'm not the time of person to say that any list that doesn't have enough footnotes to fill a short novel is worthless, but this really could've been improved with some sort of explanation. And his wife (who apparently came out of the sandals rather well IOTL) also runs for president? Like I said, would have been great with some description.

    Going out of character for a sec. It makes me wonder how a list of OTL Prime Ministers would go down. Then I thought, even from ten years ago it'd seem weird. "No really, Jeremy Corbyn, the backbench rebel is leader of HM Opposition and there's a decent chance he'll be the next Prime Minister" Let alone further back.

    So PMs from a hypothetical 10 years ago, in my eyes woud be

    2007-2010: Gordon Brown (Labour)

    2010-2015: David Cameron (Conservatives)

    def 2010: Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Lib Dems) Caroline Lucas (Greens) Alex Salmond (SNP) Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru)
    2015-20**: David Milliband (Labour-Lib Dem Coalition)
    Def 2015 David Cameron (Conservatives) Nick Clegg (Lib Dems) Caroline Lucas (Greens) Alex Salmond (SNP) Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru)

    Basically I predicted the Tories would secure a majority over Brown. (Possibly the Lib Dems took more votes from Labour) and then The Tories narrowly miss winning a majority in 2015 and although they get more seats. The Lib Dems do even better in 2015 then 2010 (because i was biased) so a Lab-Lib Coalition would be formed. Probably leading to voting reform and all that good stuff

    and 20 years ago.... I was 8 at the time of the GE. So here how i WOULD have predicted things going probably.


    1997-2007: Tony Blair (Labour)

    def 1997: John Major (Conservatives) Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrats)
    Def 2001: Michael Portillo (Conservatives) Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats)
    Def 2005: William Hague (Conservatives) Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrats
    2007-2008: Gordon Brown (Labour)
    2008-2015 William Hague (Conservatives)

    def 2008: Gordon Brown) Labour) Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrats)
    def 2013: Jack Straw (Labour) Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrats)
    2015-20**: Peter Lilley (Conservatives)

    The idea is more or less OTL except there's no Portillo moment. Later Gordon Brown calls a snap election in early 2008 and does a Theresa May (only moreso) giving William Hague a slim Majority, which he increases in 2013. He then stands down a year before the next election. I thought I'd try and grab as many people who were key figures in the Cabinet and Shadow Cabinet in 1997. Oh and Simon Hughes survives.
     
    MichaelWest - Taft and Roosevelt
  • This is one of my pre-Great War points of departure musings:

    1913-1917: William H. Taft / Franklin Murphy (Republican)
    Defeated: Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall (Democrat) in 1912 election.

    1901-1913: Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (Republican)
    VP: None (1901-1904), Charles W. Fairbanks (1905-1909), William H. Taft (1909-1913).
    Defeated William Jennings Bryan (Democrat) in 1904 and 1908 elections.

    Notes: In 1908, Charles E. Hughes was offered the vice-presidential nomination by Theodore Roosevelt Jr., but he declined it to run again for Governor of New York. On April 25, 1910, President Theodore Roosevelt Jr. nominated Charles E. Hughes for Associate Justice to fill the vacancy left by the death of Justice David J. Brewer.
     
    Comisario - The Old Boys' Club
  • The Old Boys' Club

    1997-2005: Jack Straw (Labour majority)
    2005-2009: Howard Flight (Conservative majority)
    2009-2010: Andrew Lansley (Conservative majority)
    2010-2015: Fabian Hamilton (Labour-Liberal Democrat coalition)
    2015-2016: Guy Black (Conservative minority with UUP confidence and supply)
    2016-: Guy Black (Conservative majority)
     
    theev - Reagan = Stalin
  • Deleted member 87099

    A Re-write of that list of Reagan as some sort of Stalin-esque figure


    1933-1937: John Nance Garner/Vacant (Democratic)
    1937-1938: Huey Long/Henry A. Wallace ("New" Democratic)

    1936: Hamilton Fish III/Arthur Vandenberg (Republican) , John Nance Garner/Millard Tydings ("Rebel" Democratic)
    1938-1939: Douglas MacArthur (Independent)
    1939-1942: Charles Lindbergh/Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (National Union)

    1940: None
    1942-1943: Smedley Butler (Independent)
    1943-1951: Upton Sinclair/Daniel Hoan (Socialist)

    1942: William H. Murray/Olin D. Johnston (New Democratic) , Burton K. Wheeler/Fiorello La Guardia (Progressive) , William Z. Foster/Vito Marcantonio (Communist)
    1946: William H. Murray/Lyndon B. Johnson (New Democratic) , William Z. Foster/Vito Marcantonio (Communist) ,
    Vincent Hallinan/Elliot Roosevelt (Progressive)
    1951-1959: Lyndon B. Johnson/James F. Byrnes (New Democratic)
    1950: Vito Marcantonio/Joseph McCarthy (Communist) , Wayne Morse/Hubert Humphrey (Progressive) , Whittaker Chambers/Darlington Hoopes (Socialist)
    1954: Joseph McCarthy/Ronald Reagan (Communist) , Darlington Hoopes/Richard Nixon (Socialist) , Adlai Stevenson/Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (Progressive)

    1959-1967: Ronald Reagan/Joseph Curran (Communist)
    1958: Richard Nixon/Walter Reuther (Socialist) , Estes Kefauver/John Connally (New Democratic) , Joseph P. Kennedy Jr./Margaret Chase Smith (Progressive) , James O. Eastland/George Smathers (States' Rights)
    1962: John Connally/George Wallace (New Democratic) , Walter Reuther/Frank Zeidler (Socialist) , Hubert Humphrey/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (Progressive)

    1967-1976: Ronald Reagan/Gus Hall (Communist)
    1966: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert Byrd (New Democratic) , Richard Nixon/George McGovern (Socialist)
    1970: George Wallace/Al Gore Sr. (New Democratic) , Walter Reuther/Gore Vidal (Socialist)
    1974: George McGovern/Terry Sanford (Coalition - Socialist/New Democratic)

    1976-1976: Ronald Reagan/Vacant (Communist)
    1976-1979: Ronald Reagan/Henry Winston (Communist)

    1978: None
    1979-1979: Ronald Reagan/Vacant (Communist)
    1979-1984: Ronald Reagan/Dorothy Ray Healey (Communist)

    1982: None
    1984-1984: Ronald Reagan/Vacant (Communist)
    1984-1991: Ronald Reagan/Lee Harvey Oswald (Communist)
    1991-1991: Lee Harvey Oswald/Vacant (Communist)
    1991-1999: Lee Harvey Oswald/Angela Davis (Communist)
    1999-2001: Colin Powell (Communist)
    2001-2005: Sam Webb/Dennis Banks (People's)

    2000: Al Gore Jr./Mary Landrieu (Democratic) , Kinky Friedman/Kent Hovind (Minuteman) , W. Jefferson Clinton/Al Sharpton (Spirit of '76) , Bernie Sanders/Russ Feingold (Liberation)
    2005-2009: Mary Landrieu/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
    2004: James Janos/Walter B. Jones Jr. (Minuteman) , Cornel West/John Bachtell (People's) , Jefferson Sessions/Andrew Schlafly (Spirit of '76)
    2009-2013: James Janos/Alex Jones (Minuteman)
    2008: Tim Kaine/John Edwards (Democratic) , John Bachtell/Hillary Rodham (People's) , Andrew Schlafly/James Hedges (Spirit of '76)
    2013-2017: Jim Webb/Joe Manchin (Democratic)
    2012: Chuck Norris/Cordozar Calvin Broadus Jr. (Minuteman) , Monica Moorhead/Jerry White (People's) , Andrew Schalfly/Various (Spirit of '76)
    2017-0000: Joe Scarborough/Matt Shea (Minuteman)
    2016: Joe Manchin/Martin O'Malley (Democratic) , Jello Biafra/Keith Judd (People's)


    In bad need of footnotes. Footnotes that may or may not happen.
     
    BrotherSideways - UK PM List from an FH written in 2005
  • Sideways

    Donor
    Going out of character for a sec. It makes me wonder how a list of OTL Prime Ministers would go down. Then I thought, even from ten years ago it'd seem weird. "No really, Jeremy Corbyn, the backbench rebel is leader of HM Opposition and there's a decent chance he'll be the next Prime Minister" Let alone further back.

    So PMs from a hypothetical 10 years ago, in my eyes woud be
    I've been thinking recently about a FH TL I tried to write in... 2005. It went something like this:

    1997-2009: Tony Blair (Labour)
    2009-2013: Gordon Brown (Labour)

    David Davis (Conservative) Charles Kennedy (Lib Dem) Damian Hockney (UKIP-Veritas Alliance)
    2013-2017: Liam Fox (Conservative) Coalition with Damian Hockney (UKIP-Veritas Alliance)
    Gordon Brown (Labour) Charles Kennedy (Lib Dem)
    2017- : David Blunkett (Labour)
    Liam Fox (Right Tory-UKIP-Veritas Alliance) Jo Swinson (Lib Dem) Some Guy (Moderate Tory)

     
    gap80 - DESTINY FALLS ONE GENERATION EARLY
  • DESTINY FALLS ONE GENERATION EARLY​

    Because tomorrow (June 18) is Father’s Day…

    Short version:
    1869-1877: 18) Rev. Richard F. Cleveland (R-OH) – retired due to unpopularity
    1877-1878: 19) Theodore “Thee” Roosevelt, Sr. (R-NY) – died, tumor
    1878: 20) John Scott Harrison (R-OH) – died, pneumonia
    1878-1881: 21) William McKinley Sr. (R-OH) – retired due to old age
    1881-1885: 22) Alphonso Taft (R-OH) – retired
    1885-1893: 23) James Roosevelt I (D-NY) – retired
    1893-1897: 24) Rev. J. R. Wilson (D-NC, I-NC after 1896 DNC) – lost re-nomination; lost re-election as third-party candidate
    1897-1900: 25) James Roosevelt I (D-NY) – died, heart failure
    1900-1901: 26) Jesse Hoover (D-IA) – was outgoing VP
    1901-1905: 27) Dr. George T. Harding Sr. (D-OH) – was incoming VP-Elect; retired
    1905-1913: 28) John C. Coolidge Sr. (R-VT) – retired
    1913-1914: 29) John A. Truman (D-MO) – assassinated, Mexican nationalist bombers
    1914-1921: 30) David J. Eisenhower (D-PA) – retired
    1921-1926: 31) Francis A. “Frank” Nixon (R-CA) – resigned, scandal
    1926-1929: 32) Leslie L. King (R-NE) – lost nomination and retired
    1929-1935: 33) Samuel E. Johnson Jr. (D-TX) – died, heart attack
    1935-1945: 34) Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Sr. (D-MA) – retired due to death threats
    1945-1953: 35) Gen. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) – term-limited
    1953-1957: 36) John E. “Jack” Reagan (D-CA) – lost election
    1957-1961: 37) Prescott S. Bush (R-CN) – term-limited
    1961-1965: 38) James E. Carter Sr. (D-GA) – assassinated, ultra-conservative sniper
    1965-1973: 39) Roger Clinton (D-AR) – term-limited
    1973-1981: 40) Frederick C. “Fred” Trump (R-NY) – term-limited
    1981-1987: 41) Lolo “Louie” Soetoro (D-CU) – died from sudden liver failure
    1987-1989: 42) William J. “Bill” Blythe, Jr. (D-NV) – lost election
    1989-1997: 43) George H. W. Bush (R-CN) – term-limited
    1997-present (mid-2001): 44) Barack H. Obama, Sr. (D-NY) – Incumbent

    Longer version:

    1869-1877: 18) Rev. Richard Falley Cleveland (1804-1884)

    On March 4, 1869, President Andrew Johnson was succeeded by President Richard Cleveland. Born in Connecticut on June 19, 1804, Cleveland started out as a Presbyterian minister before joining the US military to fight in the First Mexican-American War. He continued his military career into the American Civil War, rising in rank and becoming a Union Army General more famous than Meade, McClellan and Grant. In 1868, he was elected President, and left office eight years later at the age of 72, making him America’s oldest President at the time. He died in 1884, age 80. During his time in office, the Presidential Succession Act of 1872 was passed, making his cabinet members be next in line before the Congressional leaders, citing the recent deaths of both the House Speaker and Senate leader in two separate instances. Cleveland’s son, Stephen Grover Cleveland, became Mayor of New York City in the late 1880s, dying in office from cancer in 1894.

    1877-1878: 19) Theodore “Thee” Roosevelt Sr. (1831-1878)
    Roosevelt spent most of his life in business. Based in New York City, the philanthropist and son of a wealthy businessman used his wealth to co-found the NYC Children’s Aid Society, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the American Museum of Natural History, and the New York Children’s Orthopedic Hospital. By 1876, he was a well-known popular figure, especially among Republicans for his donations to their causes. With certain Republicans outraged by the scandalous Cleveland administration, a political outsider was called for to be their 1876 nominee. Roosevelt accepted that call, and narrowly won in November at the young age of 45 after an autumn campaign in which the party’s nominee was much more active than in Presidential campaigns past. However, just under a year into office, Roosevelt died from a gastrointestinal tumor, age 46. His son Thee Roosevelt Jr. ended up becoming a rancher and explorer, co-discovering the ruins of Machu Picchu in 1902 before dying in a plane crash in 1909, age 50.

    1878: 20) John Scott Harrison (1804-1878)
    To counteract Thee Roosevelt’s political inexperience, the Republicans picked “establishment” politician John Harrison to be his running mate. The son of President William Henry Harrison, John Scott Harrison served in the United States House of Representatives from 1853 to 1857. After serving in the Cleveland administration from 1869 to 1873, he successfully campaigned for the Governorship of Ohio. As President, however, Harrison followed in his father’s footsteps: after entering office in February upon the death of President Roosevelt, Harrison himself died three months later, in May, age 73.

    1878-1881: 21) William McKinley Sr. (1807-1892)
    McKinley came from a background similar to that of Roosevelt; a pioneer in the iron industry, the businessman was an early supporter of Roosevelt’s candidacy and was awarded with the position of Secretary of State. Upon becoming President himself at the age of 70, he strived to continue on Roosevelt’s policies. He declined to run for a full term and left office at the age of 73.

    1881-1885: 22) Alphonso Taft (1810-1891)
    Taft was McKinley’s chosen successor, having been an exemplary member of the Cleveland, Roosevelt, Harrison and McKinley cabinets. He was elected Governor of Ohio in 1879, proving his electability. Despite entering office at the age of 70, Taft showed much energy in getting his policies passed. However, the economic decline caused by the Great Panic of 1881, coupled with rising discontent among Southerners living in the northern states and border states, ensured his failure in obtaining re-election.

    1885-1893: 23) James Roosevelt I (1828-1900)
    A distant nephew of Thee Roosevelt, James Roosevelt became the first Democrat elected President since 1856, 24 years earlier. He had been inspired by his uncle’s run for President to enter politics himself, becoming Governor of New York before being elected President at the age of 56. His campaign and Presidency were more liberal than past Democratic Presidents due to Roosevelt’s support among the middle class and Catholics. Despite ending Reconstruction in 1885, he pulled the nation out of its economic slump by 1888, and was easily re-elected in that year on an even larger coalition of certain minorities (mainly, ethnic whites) and dissatisfied traditionally-Republican voters. Always interested in coal and transportation (especially the railroads), he also was an expansionist, and managed to purchase Cuba from Spain in 1891 and lower unemployment.

    1893-1897: 24) Rev. Joseph Ruggles Wilson Sr. (1822-1903)
    James Roosevelt’s Vice-President was more than just a wee bit controversial. The elderly statesman had supported the Confederacy during the 1860s and had once owned slaves. The prominent Presbyterian theologian had moved to Wilmington, North Carolina in 1874, and was ultimately elected to the US House and then the US Senate from the area. Entering office at the age of 71 after losing the popular vote but not the electoral vote, Wilson was repeatedly attacked by the Republicans for being too sympathetic to the South in the name of States’ Rights.

    1897-1900: 25) James Roosevelt I (1828-1900)
    Roosevelt saw the country coming apart at the seams over Wilson’s negative policies, and decided to stop it. He challenged his former VP for the 1896 Democratic nomination and narrowly won it on the 30th ballot. However, Wilson opted to run as a third-party candidate in the autumn, which threatened to prevent Roosevelt from obtaining an unprecedented third term. However, enough voters in key Northern states fondly remembered the economic prosperity the country enjoyed under Roosevelt’s administration for Roosevelt to achieve victory, winning in the Electoral College by just three votes; the GOP candidate being bogged down by scandals helped too. After a slightly contentious Electoral College, the Chief Justice swore Roosevelt into office once more. However, Roosevelt was not the healthy man he once was. Recurring heart problems began to limit his mental and physical abilities in late 1899, but nevertheless he still ran for a fourth term. However, shortly after winning a fourth term in November (due to the economic prosperity at the time), Roosevelt died in office in December 1900 at the age of 72.

    1900-1901: 26) Jesse Hoover (1849-1939)
    Vice-President Hoover, a blacksmith-turned-US Senator from Iowa, would later regret declining to serve for a second term. The 51-year-old President Hoover, blocked from serving past March 4, 1901, presided over a hot Electoral College battle, as the President-elect had died before they had convened. After weeks of arguing whom should be sworn in on Inauguration Day 1901, the Democratic-controlled House chose the Vice-President-Elect to succeed the retiring incumbent VP-turned-President. Hoover would return to Iowa politics, becoming a US Senator once more and running for the Presidency himself in 1908 and 1912 before retiring from politics in the late 1920s.

    1901-1905: 27) Dr. George Tryon Harding Sr. (1844-1928)
    Harding began his career as a doctor and then a newspaper owner before being elected to the state senate, then governorship; he was the sixth US President to be from the state of Ohio (after Harrison, Cleveland, Harrison, McKinley and Taft). His administration set up isolationist policies after War broke out in Europe in 1904. Historians have criticized his do-nothing attitude towards numerous issues. Harding is usually ranked as a “poor” President.

    1905-1913: 28) John Calvin Coolidge Sr. (1845-1926)
    Coolidge was a career politician from the liberal state of Vermont, first elected to the Vermont House of Representatives in 1872 before becoming Governor, then US Representative, then US Senator. He easily defeated incumbent Harding in a landslide, making him the first Republican President in 20 years, since Alphonso Taft left office in 1885. Coolidge immediately sent troops overseas, leading to a decisive victory on the Alliance side in late 1907, which ensured Coolidge’s re-election victory. As a liberal, he promoted small businesses and open trade policies. Women were also granted the right to vote in 1912. Coolidge left office with high approval ratings. His son, John C. Coolidge Jr., would try to follow in his father’s footsteps, and while he was elected a Governor and a Senator, but failed to become President despite his numerous runs.

    1913-1914: 29) John Anderson Truman (1851-1912)
    John Truman was born on December 5, 1851. A life-long Democrat born and raised in Missouri, he was a farmer and livestock dealer before he was elected Governor in 1908. He was elected President in an upset as a response to public concerns over how the violence of the Mexican Civil War (1905-1916) seemed to be spilling over the border into the states of Texas, California and Arizuma. The issue came to a head in late 1913, when a skirmish at the border left 18 American soldiers dead. After negotiations broke down as border clashes increased even further, Truman declared War on Mexico. The Second Mexican-American War (1913-1918) saw the US invade most of Northern Mexico. In late November 1914, when Truman was visiting soldier barracks in Texas, the nearly-63-year-old Commander-in-Chief was assassinated via a large bomb. He was the first US President to be killed since Lincoln.

    1914-1921: 30) David Jacob Eisenhower (1863-1942)
    Eisenhower, born in September 1863, was the first member of his family to graduate from college, despite his father Jacob’s urging to stay on the family farm. While operating a general store in eastern Pennsylvania, Eisenhower became interested in politics due to the conversations his politician customers would have in his establishment. He ultimately was elected to city council, then Mayor of Philadelphia, before being elected the US Senate, then the US Vice-Presidency at age. Entering the Presidency at the age of 51, Eisenhower was younger and more energetic than his predecessor, but heavily relied on the advice of military experts during the Second Mexican-American War. A string of battle victories in the fall and the memory of President Truman ensured Eisenhower’s re-election in 1916. In early 1918, surrounded Mexican forces finally surrendered and a peace treaty was signed, much to the relief of the US’s pacifist First Lady. From this treaty eventually came the US states of Sonora, South California, Yucatan and Roosevelt, leaving Mexico a territorially truncated state. Despite leaving Mexico in a virtually unresolved mess, Eisenhower left office with high approval ratings, retired from politics, and died in May 1942, age 78. His son was US Air Force Colonel Dwight Eisenhower (1890-1952).

    1921-1926: 31) Francis Anthony “Frank” Nixon (1878-1958)
    Republican Congressman from California Francis Nixon, often called Frank by friends, was known as the “Fiery Quaker” due to his famous, anger-fueled speeches on the House floor. It was these kinds of speeches that had helped propel him from being a grocery store owner to the House, and it was a persuasive oratory masterpiece reminiscent of William Jennings Bryan that convinced the Republicans to nominate him for President. President Frank Nixon was America’s youngest President, having been elected into office in November 1920 at the age of 41, turning 42 in December 1920, and being sworn into office in March 1921. Under his administration, the US military sent “peacekeeping” troops to Panama (a US territory since 1899), supported the Pedro Ospina regime in New Gran Colombia, and placed tariffs on foreign trade to “keep American jobs and American products in America.” However, in 1926, a mounting scandal connecting to apparent unlawful sabotage of political opponents in 1924 and 1925 led to Nixon resigning under the threat of impeachment, leaving office at the age of 48. “Fiery Frank” was then cautiously quiet for the next several years, finally releasing his memoirs in 1938.

    1926-1929: 32) Leslie Lynch King (1884-1941)
    Leslie King was a very angry man. He was angry that the only reason he won a US Senate seat was because his opponent died just days before the election. He was less angry when he became the US Attorney General at the age of 36 in 1921, then US Vice-President at the age of 40 in 1925. But he was very angry when he received criticism for pardoning Nixon in 1926. He was absolutely steamed when the economy collapsed in 1927, and he was the one blamed for it. And he was positively outraged when he lost the 1928 election in a landslide over his do-nothing form of governing. If still alive by the 1960s instead of having put himself into an early grave via the drink, he would most definitely be very, very angry at the fact that he has since then been perennially ranked as one of America’s worst Presidents, if not the worst.

    1929-1938: 32) Samuel Ealy Johnson, Jr. (1877-1938)
    Johnson had a rags-to-riches background that was positive, uplifting and inspirational to those feeling the effects of the economy. Born into a struggling farming family, he painstakingly worked his way towards a better education and becoming a teacher before being elected to the Texas State Assembly, then the Governorship, and then the US Senate, as a Populist Democrat. Having dealt with economy issues his entire life, he easily won election in 1928 at the age of 51, becoming the first ever President from Texas. Following in the footsteps of James Roosevelt, Johnson ran for a third term. However, similar to James Roosevelt, Johnson died during his third term. While travelling on a train from Texas to Washington DC, he suffered both a brain hemorrhage and a heart attack, both brought on by the stress of the office and his weakness for the bottle, and died within hours. He is remembered fondly by historians and American citizens alike for his response to the Great Recession (1927-1937/39). He was portrayed by Tom Hanks in a 2003 biopic.

    1938-1945: 33) Joseph Patrick “Joe” Kennedy Sr. (1888-1971)
    Despite never being elected to anything before, Johnson chose Kennedy, the US Ambassador to Great Britain from 1931 to 1933 and US Attorney General from 1933 to 1937, to be his running mate, as Kennedy was a close ally and advisor to him. However, the ascension of the 49-year-old Kennedy to the Presidency in 1938 was met with fierce opposition, especially in the South. Large protests were held in over 100 cities across the country over fears that Kennedy, a Catholic, would take orders from the Vatican. To quell fears, Kennedy never even made contact with the Pope during his time in office. He instead focused on maintaining the economy and monitoring the situation in Mexico. America’s southern neighbor had never fully recovered from the Second Mexican-American War, and a revolutionary by the name of Lazaro Cardenas (1895-1943) had taken hold of the country’s government in 1932. In late 1938, Mexico invaded the neighboring nations of Guatemala, Belize and Honduras. Upon realizing that Cardenas was looking to conquer Nicaragua (and possibly the US territory of Panama) fairly soon, but not wanting to put the US through another war with Mexico, the Kennedy Administration began quietly sending weapons and supplies to Nicaragua, along with American “supervision forces” after a brief scuffle (allegedly) broke out on the Nicaragua-Panama border. In 1940, Mexico did invade Nicaragua, but were successfully repelled within a few weeks. Regardless, Cardenas’ anti-American rhetoric needed to be addressed. After Kennedy narrowly won election to a full term in November 1940, he agreed to lift certain sanctions against Mexico, stating “we’re not being weak; we’re helping our neighbors make their gardens beautiful so when we look out to them from our own we can enjoy what we see.” In 1943, Kennedy’s “Irish Mafia” men helped topple the Cardenas regime, and sanctions were lifted even further. Due to the large amount of death threats he received while in office for numerous reasons ranging from his religion to his “soft” foreign policy choices, President Kennedy declined to run for another term. His oldest son, Joe Kennedy Jr, later became Governor of Massachusetts and ran for President in 1952, 1960, 1964, 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, and 1988, before dying from colorectal cancer in 1991.

    1945-1953: 34) Gen. Gerald Rudolff Ford (1890-1963)
    Gerald Ford, born in December 1890, developed an interest in the military due to coming of age at the time when images of the Great European War (1904-1907) were spread across the newspapers. He joined the military in 1912, and rose in rank during the Second Mexican-American War. After serving as the head of a conservative University, General Ford became an open critic of President Kennedy’s policies, but declined to run for President. However, in 1944, key Republican leaders convinced him to give it a go. Ford ended up winning by a surprisingly large margin over the incumbent Secretary of State, and went on to serve for eight highly successful years. Two noteworthy laws passed under his administration were a 1946 Amendment prohibited him from running for a third term, and a 1952 Amendment that finally allowed foreign-born citizens to be eligible for the Presidency. Ford’s two sons, Richard and James, later went on to become US Army Generals.

    1953-1957: 36) John Edward “Jack” Reagan (1883-1981)
    America’s first “celebrity” President came in the form of Jack Reagan, a major star of radio dramas and early silent picture dramas. After serving as Governor of California (1939-1947), he ran for the Democratic nomination in 1948, lost, ran for it again in 1952, won it, and then won the Presidency at age 69. His administration focused on improving African-American conditions, which was unusual for a Democratic President. Unfortunately, Reagan responded poorly to a foreign policy crisis in 1956, and he lost re-election to Senator Prescott Bush later in the year.

    1957-1961: 37) Prescott Sheldon Bush (1895-1982)
    Businessmen have always supported and voted for the GOP. Prescott Bush was no exception. Born to considerably wealthy parents, Bush made even more money as a weapons manufacturer during the 1920s and 1930s before becoming a US Senator in the 1940s. He was a darling in the eyes of the GOP establishment, and he managed to outspend and out-trick the incumbent Democratic President in the states where it mattered most. American astromen landing on the Moon (as part of the First Space Race (1945-1977)) in late 1957 was the high point of his administration, however, as his approach to economic issues and foreign policy with a total disregard for social needs lead to him losing support among his own party by early 1960. Despite initial reservations, he ran for a second term, but lost by a very comfortable margin. Bush subsequently returned to his millions, indulging himself with his wealth until death ended his fun when he was 87 years old, in October 1982.

    1961-1965: 39) J. Earl Carter (1894-1965)
    The “old southern Gentleman” was Vice-President under Reagan, and before that had served as Governor of Georgia, a state senator, and a peanut farmer. Defying expectations, he was elected President at the age of 66, and supported equal rights for non-whites and females even more so than Reagan. He could have done more great things for the United States had it not been for an assassin from his own home state with exceptionally good aim in April 1965. He was killed at the age of 71.

    1965-1973: 38) Roger Clinton (1908-1974)
    The “handsome hell-raiser from Hot Springs, Arkansas” became interested in politics at an early age, and following that passion soon led him to the US Senate shortly after entering his 30s. He famously questioned a corrupt senator during hearings in the late 1940s. He got along well with President Carter despite being on opposite ends of the Democratic Party. Under his administration, the economy began to suffer but he won the 1968 election due to his challenger’s numerous scandals. Starting off as a violently temperamental Senate leader, he mellowed considerably after a cancer scare led to him also staying off the 1964 ticket. Luckily for him, the cancer stayed in remission until 1972; during his time in office he increased funding for cancer research to unprecedented levels. Clinton died from cancer shortly after leaving office. Clinton’s Presidency has since maintained an “average” rating.

    1973-1981: 40) Frederick Christ “Fred” Trump (1905-1989)
    Fred Trump modeled himself after Thee Roosevelt, and, at the urging of his son Donald Trump, became a successful businessman in Manhattan before being elected the city’s mayor in 1965 and again in 1969. He narrowly won in 1972 over 49-year-old incumbent Vice-President George Jefferson “Jeff” Dwire of Illinois. Trump’s Presidency would prove to be a poisoned chalice; he would oversee the completion of America’s first moon base in early 1976, but he also was shaken to his core over the deaths of his sons Donald and Fred Jr. in a 1979 hostage situation connected to the Norwegian Conflict (1971-1983). After eight years of repairing America’s economy, infrastructure, and military standing both across the globe and in outer space, Trump left the White House an emotionally broken man. He died at the age of 84, during his daughter Elizabeth’s third term in the US Senate.

    1981-1987: 41) Lolo “Louie” Soetoro (1935-1987)
    Soetoro fled to the United States in 1945 at the age of 10 with his mother and surviving siblings to escape the bloody atrocities of the Indonesian Civil War (1941-1956). They settled in California, where Soetoro strived to learn English despite initial difficulty. He became interested in politics during California Governor Howard Hughes’s 1954 re-election bid. He converted to Christianity in 1960. After receiving formal education at Harvard he went right to work as a lawyer in Havana, Cuba (by 1980, a state rich in electoral votes), working his way up to Congressman, then Senator. However, many were surprised when he announced his bid for the Presidency in 1979, believing he did not stand a chance. However, his grassroots campaign proved very effective in the early primary states of South Dakota and Maine, and secured the nomination just before the DNC, becoming both the first non-white and the foreign-born citizen to be nominated by a major party for the Presidency. The epitome of the American Dream to his supporters, Soetoro's “shocking” upset win over the incumbent Vice-President was seen as a realignment election. President Soetoro oversaw massive reform, and narrowly won re-election in 1984. Unfortunately, his second term was cut short by a sudden case of liver failure, and he died in office at the age of 52. Democrats still remember him in a very positive light.

    1987-1989: 42) William Jefferson “Bill” Blythe, Jr. (b. 1918)
    Nobody believed that Slick Billy Blythe would ever become President. After seven short marriages (two of which were briefly bigamist in nature) and numerous offspring born both in and out of wedlock to both wives and mistresses, the Texas-born struggling appliance salesman finally decided to put his life in order after winning a lawsuit against the state of Arkansas for unsafe road safety conditions in 1953. Blythe relocated and settled down in Nevada, where he opened up his own business. He decided to try his hand at politics in 1962, running for Governor and losing. He tried again in 1966 and won, but lost re-election in 1970. He tried again for a second term in 1974, won, and won re-election in 1978. In 1985, the incumbent US VP died from natural causes; the announcement that Soetoro had chosen Blythe to be his new VP was seen as shocking. After months of Senate reviews, panels, discussions, hearings, and more reviews, Blythe was confirmed by the Senate 57-55. He became President seven months later. He just barely won the 1988 nomination, and lost in November by a more than comfortable margin.

    1989-1997: 43) George Herbert Walker Bush (b. 1924)
    The son of President Prescott Bush made millions in the oil business before entering politics himself in 1962, losing election for an open congressional seat in Connecticut despite outspending his opponent 5-to-1. He tried again in 1966 and won, serving in the house from 1967 to 1971. He retired from the House in order to unsuccessfully run for a US Senate seat in 1970. Bush then became a diplomat, working as an ambassador and later other positions in the Trump administration from 1973 to 1981. In 1982, he was barely elected to the US Senate, and forewent a re-election bid to run for President. His administration focused more on foreign policy than domestic issues, privately celebrating the fall of Le Pen and the Fourth French Empire in early 1992. However, Bush received backlash in his second term for poorly handling the Great Recession (1993-1999, though some experts believe the US is still in it). Regardless, Bush would later state that his proudest moment as President was when Thee Roosevelt Medical University announced they had discovered a cure for torso-based cancers in late 1991 (after discovering a commonality between them in early 1989). The effects of his administration have yet to be determined.

    1997-present (mid-2001): 44) Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (b. 1936)
    Similar to Seotoro, Obama immigrated to the United States in 1953, age 17, to avoid the carnage of the bloody Kenya-Tanganyika War (1952-1967). After receiving formal education in New York City, he was inspired by President Carter and his social/racial policies to enter politics himself. He was elected to the US Senate from New York in 1976, and then served in the Seotoro and Blythe administrations from 1981 to 1989 before being elected Governor of New York in 1990. As President, he has so far kept American soldiers out of the growing Congo Civil Conflict. Domestically, the Supreme Court federally legalized gay marriage in an early 1999 ruling, and the solar-powered hovercar is expected to become cheap enough for the average American to afford within a few years. Furthermore, with plans for a landing on Mars by the end of the 2010s being announced recently, a Second Space Race, now against the UNPC (United Neitchsist Provinces of China) has effectively begun.

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    Note: I would have gone back further with the list but there is practically zero information about Chester A. Arthur’s father (not even a “circa” date for when he may have been born), whom was not even born in the US to begin with.

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    True Grit - Liberal Democratic-punk Canada
  • Prime Ministers of Canada
    1980-1983: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal/New Democratic coalition) [1]
    -1980 (min): Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
    -1983 (min): Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)

    1983-1986: Jean Chrétien (Liberal/New Democratic coalition) [2]
    1986-1995: Peter Lougheed (Progressive Conservative) [3]
    -1986:
    Jean Chrétien (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
    -1990: Jean Chrétien (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
    -1994 (min): Sheila Copps (Liberal Democratic), Svend Robinson (National Progress) [4]

    1995-2004: Sheila Copps (Liberal Democratic) [5]
    -1995 (min):
    Peter Lougheed (Progressive Conservative), Svend Robinson (National Progress)
    -1997: Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative), Svend Robinson (National Progress)
    -2001: Perrin Beatty (Progressive Conservative), Jean Lapierre (Voix Québécoise) [6], Svend Robinson (National Progress)

    2004-2008: Roy Romanow (Liberal Democratic) [7]
    -2004:
    Perrin Beatty (Progressive Conservative), Jean Lapierre (Voix Québécoise), Svend Robinson (National Progress)
    2008-2009: Mike Harris (Progressive Conservative) [8]
    -2008 (min):
    Roy Romanow (Liberal Democratic), Jean Lapierre (Voix Québécoise), Libby Davies (National Progress)
    -April 2009 (min): Martin Cauchon (Liberal Democratic), Jean Lapierre (Voix Québécoise), Libby Davies (National Progress)

    2009-2009: Martin Cauchon (Liberal Democratic/National Progress coalition)
    2009-2014: Mike Harris (Progressive Conservative) [9]
    -December 2009:
    Martin Cauchon (Liberal Democratic), Jean Lapierre (Voix Québécoise), Libby Davies (National Progress)
    2014-2016: Rachel Notley (Liberal Democratic) [10]
    -14:
    Pierre Karl Péladeau (Voix Québécoise), Ryan Meili (National Progress), Mike Harris (Progressive Conservative), Michael Chong (Independent Conservative)
    2016-2017: Bob Rae (Liberal Democratic) [11]
    2017-present: Bill Blair (Liberal Democratic) [12]


    [1] Though he managed to return to office after a brief period in opposition, the 1980 election was not all good news for Pierre Trudeau and his Liberal Party. Not only did they only return to office with a minority government, but they failed to elect any Members of Parliament west of Manitoba. With Trudeau intending to embark upon an ambitious series of constitutional reform, this posed a problem for him: how could he represent Western interests without any Western MPs? His solution, somewhat controversial as it was, was to reach out to Ed Broadbent and the New Democratic Party, with the offer of forming a coalition government. While reluctant at first, Broadbent eventually accepts Trudeau’s offer, knowing that while the NDP’s influence in government may be small, the Liberals’ minority situation would give the NDP a great amount of sway in the coalition. With Broadbent and the NDP now in the government benches, Trudeau’s attempts to patriate the constitution go better than OTL, with Broadbent managing to ensure the support of NDP Premiers Howard Pawley and (until his defeat) Allen Blakeney. Though Quebec still refuses to sign on to the new constitution, patriation as a whole proves to be less controversial than OTL, preventing Trudeau’s approval ratings from dropping to abysmal levels. Riding off this success, and with the coalition agreement with the NDP about to expire anyway, Trudeau calls a snap election in 1983 and, while he initially appears on track for a majority government, the country’s worsening economic position causes attention to drift away from the constitution, and results in Trudeau winning an even thinner minority government, prompting his resignation shortly after the election.

    [2] Trudeau is replaced by long-time cabinet minister Jean Chrétien, who, having a good relationship with Broadbent, opts to continue to coalition with the NDP, to the annoyance of some of his more right-wing members of caucus. While his tenure is less controversial than Trudeau’s, and his relationship with Broadbent is certainly better, government-fatigue and a poor economy causes the government to be defeated at the polls when the coalition agreement expires in 1986.

    [3] After succeeding Joe Clark as Progressive Conservative leader following his 1985 resignation, former Alberta Premier Peter Lougheed is able to win a majority government in 1986 on the back of a poor economy. While he is relatively popular while in office (and, unlike Brian Mulroney IOTL, stays away from the constitution, knowing from experience the difficulty involved in it and content with leaving well enough alone), an economic downturn and merger of the Liberals and NDP cause him to be reduced to a minority government in 1994 before he is defeated in an election the following year.

    [4] Having governed together relatively successfully from 1980-1986, calls grow for the Liberals and the NDP to merge following the PC majority victories in 1986 and 1990, with party activists claiming that the only reason the PCs were able to win was because of the split in the centre/centre-left vote. These calls are answered in 1992 following the election of new NDP leader Bob Rae, a pro-merger candidate, and the election of the similarly pro-merger Sheila Copps as Liberal leader in 1991, resulting in a merger between the two parties in 1993. While by and large most Liberals join the new party (with a handful of right-wingers swapping to the PCs), NDP members are more divided, fearing their voices will not be heard in a party consisting mostly of former Liberals. As a result, a small contingent of left-wing New Democrats form their own party, the “National Progress Party of Canada,” led by veteran left-wing MP Svend Robinson.

    [5] After merging the Liberals and the NDP in 1992 into the Liberal Democratic Party, Sheila Copps is able to nearly seize power in 1994. While left-wing former-NDP dissidents in the new National Progress Party prevent her from defeating Lougheed, she is able to win a minority of her own in the subsequent election. When the Progressive Conservatives defeat the government in 1997 the Lib Dems are able to win a majority, with new PC leader Lucien Bouchard having misjudged both Copps’ unpopularity and the willingness of Canadians to go to the polls yet again. Thanks to a growing economy, Copps is able to win re-election in 2001 with another majority government.

    [6] Over the course of Copps’ tenure, some of her more nationalist Quebec MPs leave the party to form the Voix Québécoise, frustrated by Copps’ insufficient (in their eyes) attempts at “bringing Quebec back into the [constitutional] fold”. While starting off as a mostly nationalist party, further frustration with the subsequent ministries will result in it shifting into a separatist party, a transformation it generally achieves around 2006.

    [7] Copps retires due to middling approval ratings, and is replaced with her Minister of Health, Roy Romanow, who calls (and wins) a snap election in 2004. An economic decline and various Lib Dem scandals cause his popularity to decline, though, as does a failed attempt at initiating constitutional reform following the further rise of Voix Québécoise and increased pressure from worried Lib Dem Quebec MPs. As a result, Romanow’s government is defeated in 2008.

    [8] Despite the Lib Dems’ unpopularity, the strongly right-wing positions of new PC leader Mike Harris result in the latter only winning a minority government, despite impressive gains in Quebec from former Lib Dem supporters frustrated with their lack of constitutional success and unwilling to vote for the separatist VQ. Harris’ policies while in government prove controversial, however, and he wins a reduced minority in the spring of 2009, prompting new Lib Dem leader Martin Cauchon to form a coalition with National Progress. Proving very unpopular and having a very thin majority, the coalition is forced to the polls only a few months into their term after losing a confidence vote following a series of floor-crossings and by-election losses.

    [9] Due to the unpopularity of the coalition, Harris is able to return to power with a strong majority. However, his tenure quickly proves controversial. A free trade agreement with the United States produces significant opposition, while a severe economic downturn causes his reputation as a strong economic manager to shatter. While his government is eventually able to lessen the effects of the recession, tax increases associated with these measures quickly prove to be unpopular (particularly with right-wing members of his caucus), and causes his approval ratings to further drop. The fatal blow for his government, however, is when Quebec votes to separate in early 2014, after a series of constitutional negotiations Harris had announced when he first took office, designed to bring Quebec onto the constitution and consolidate PC gains in the province, quickly prove unworkable and unsatisfactory to all. In the general election a few months later, despite Harris’ attempts to portray himself as the only person experienced enough to handle this crisis of national unity, he is defeated in a landslide, coming in fourth behind the Lib Dems, VQ, and National Progress, and only slightly ahead of the right-wing splinter “Independent Conservative Party” led by his former cabinet minister Michael Chong.

    [10] New Lib Dem leader Rachel Notley is elected in an overwhelming landslide, and is quickly forced to enter into negotiations with Quebec, trying to modify the Canada-Quebec relationship and keep Quebec from separating, while at the same time trying to walk the delicate line between giving Quebec enough so that it won’t separate and not giving it too much so as to not produce outrage in the Rest of Canada. While things initially seem to go well for Notley, tensions among the population soon begin to rise, with violent pro- and anti-separation protests erupting across the country. These tensions reach their peak in late 2016, when Notley is killed during an attack on Parliament Hill by a radical pro-Quebec separation terrorist.

    [11] Following her assassination, Notley is replaced on an interim basis by her Minister of Foreign Affairs, and the last leader of the New Democratic Party, Bob Rae. While Rae had considered running for Lib Dem leader before, with lingering resentment from former NDP members preventing him from entering the fray, he declines to run for the position following Notley’s death, despite strong support among both Canadians and members of the Lib Dem caucus.

    [12] Ontario Premier Bill Blair is elected Lib Dem leader in the ensuing leadership contest, and quickly begins to crack down on the protests raging across the country and adopting a significantly more hardline stance towards the Quebec government, who quickly finds itself forced to bow to pressure as a result of the anti-sovereignty wave that Notley’s assassination has produced. As 2017 continues on, whether these new developments will change is anyone’s guess.
     
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    Exitstencil - Post-War Italian Prime Ministers
  • Post-War Prime Ministers of Italy

    1945-1946: Ferruccio Parri (Action Party)

    1946-1948: Ferruccio Parri (Italian Republicans)

    1948-1952: Mario Scelba (Christian Democrats)
    Def. 1948
    Feruccio Parri (Italian Republicans), Giuseppe Di Vittorio (General Labor), Ruggero Greico (Italian Communist), Roberto Lucifero (Liberal)

    1952-1958: Augusto De Marsanich (Christian Democrats)
    Def. 1953
    Randolfo Pacciardi (Italian Republicans), Roberto Lucifero (Liberal), Giuseppe Di Vittorio (General Labor), Giuseppe Bottai (Commoners United), Palmiro Togliatti (Italian Communist)

    1958-1963: Francesco De Martino (Popular Front)
    Def. 1958
    Augusto de Marsanich (Christian Democrats), Giuseppe Bottai (Commoners United), Paolo Taviani (Liberal)

    1963-1969: Pino Rauti (Christian Democrats)
    Def. 1963

    Francesco de Martino (Popular Front), Furio Cicogna (Liberal), Alfredo Covelli (Commoners United)

    Def. 1968

    Alessandro Pertini (Italian Socialist), Furio Cicogna (Liberal), Italo Viglianesi (United Labor), Mariano Rumor (Italian Republicans)

    1969-1971: Bernardo Mattarella (Christian Democrats)

    1971-1973: Aldo Moro (Christian Democrats)


    1973-1975: Adriano Sofri (Autonomist)
    Def. 1973
    Aldo Moro (Christian Democrats), Julius Evola (Vanguard), Mariano Rumor (Liberal), Eugenio Scalfari (Italian Republicans), Lucio Magri (Italian Communist)


    1975-???: Pietro Valpeda (Autonomist)

    (I'll be adding footnotes to this sometime soon, so readers won't have to research every single person.)
     
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    CanadianTory - 1980s, A Time of Change in Canada
  • I always enjoyed the idea of the 1980s being a time of radical change in Canada.

    Prime Ministers of Canada
    1979-1980: Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative)

    -1979 (min): Pierre Trudeau (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Fabien Roy (Social Credit)
    1980-1984: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal)
    -1980: Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
    1984: John Turner (Liberal)
    1984-1993: Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative)

    1984: Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), John Turner (Liberal)
    1988: Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Jean Chretien (Liberal)
    1992 (min): Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Lloyd Axworthy (Liberal), Preston Manning (Reform)

    1993-1995: Ed Broadbent (New Democratic/Liberal coalition)
    1995-1997: Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative)

    1995 (min): Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Preston Manning (Reform), Lloyd Axworthy (Liberal)
    1997-2004: Stephen Lewis (New Democratic)
    1997 (min): Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative), Preston Manning (Reform), Peter Milliken (Liberal)
    1998: Preston Manning (Reform), Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative), Peter Milliken (Liberal)
    2002: Maureen McTeer (Progressive Conservative), Stephen Harper (Reform), Joe Volpe (Liberal)
    2004-2006: Svend Robinson (New Democratic)
    2006-2014: Maureen McTeer (Progressive Conservative)

    2006: Svend Robinson (New Democratic), Stephen Harper (Reform), Carolyn Bennett (Liberal)
    2010: Stephen Harper (Reform), Brian Topp (New Democratic), Carolyn Bennett (Liberal), Elizabeth May (Green)

    2014-present: Peggy Nash (Alliance)
    2014: Maureen McTeer (Progressive Conservative), Stephen Harper (Reform), Martin Cauchon (Liberal)
     
    Octosteel - The American Prophet
  • So I kind of love the setting of Bioshock Infinite so I was thinking what's the most plausible way we could get a self-proclaimed Prophet in charge of government during that era. Hence this list. Sorry if it's way too long and unrealistic to boot. I tried my best but I'm still unhappy with it so I'd love some feedback.

    The American Prophet


    1877-1881: Samuel J. Tilden / Thomas Hendricks (Democratic)
    1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Elihu Washburne (Republican), Peter Cooper / Samuel Cary (Greenback)

    It came to pass that in 1876, just over a decade after the Civil War during which they had been branded "the party of traitors" and just four years after an election in which they did not even field a candidate, the Democratic Party would reclaim the White House largely due to one man: Ulysses S. Grant.

    Now, Grant could have been forgiven for thinking at the time that him running for a third term was a splendid idea. After all, he had won in 1872 despite his party being divided and his administration scandalized. It seemed the country trusted Grant, and he trusted the her.

    But the Long Depression was taking its toll on the people's perception as the mental image of the great general taking Lee's at Appomattox was replaced with an aloof politician vetoing a popular relief bill. So when Grant seized the nomination for a third time by slapping down the demoralized Liberal Republican opposition, he found himself campaigning in front of an electorate that had seen its patience eroded. With little on economic successes to speak of, Grant instead would focus his campaign on his foreign policy. He reminded the nation that he had tried to annex Santa Domingo, but that his political opponents had prevented him. It was God's will for the nation to expand yet Democrats had opposed it. He appealed to nationalism. He appealed to Christian faith. He never said Manifest Destiny or "go west, young man", but the thought was on everyone's mind. A passion that was buried upon the Civil War found itself burrowing its head out again.

    Tilden's classical liberal and anti-imperialist Democrats would seize the day though as the economy was just too bad to ignore and beyond what hi-jinks by Republican Governors could overcome, but Grant did better than some expected considering the circumstances. Meanwhile, farmers unsatisfied with both parties rallied behind the newly formed Greenback Party. Farmers were tired of being ignored and demanded to be taken seriously. More on that later.

    Tilden's term was what one could expect from a Gilded Age President: average. He walked the country out of the Depression while cutting taxes and half-heartedly attempting some civil service reform. He reminded all that he was a former railroad lawyer when he responded to the railroad strikes in Pittsburgh with armed troops which served only to radicalize those dispossessed workers both in cities and in the country. While he sent troops to Pittsburgh, he pulled them out of the South, allowing his party to reign supreme once again below the Mason-Dixon which would come in handy in 1880.

    1881-1885: Samuel J. Tilden / John Palmer (Democratic)
    1880: John Sherman / Horace Maynard (Republican), James Weaver / Barzillai Chambers (Greenback)

    Tilden, as unhealthy as he was, would run again in some sense from pressure by Democratic bosses unsure if any of their people could actually win. Tilden reached out to Republicans by putting former Republican Governor and general John Palmer on the ticket, the mugwumpiest of the mugwumps.

    The Republicans were more divided. While some wanted to run Grant again, his sickness that he could from his world tour was serious enough that the proposal was abandoned. Conkling's Stalwarts and Blaine's Half-Breeds clashed as expected which led to a rather long and drawn out convention, compromising with the world's least exciting ticket of always dull Senator John Sherman and the half dead Horace Maynard. Perhaps running the brother of the man who burnt down Atlanta was not the best man to run in the first election where white supremacist Redeemer governments had seized most of the states but oh well. Sherman was canny in one sense in that he reused the popular Grant platform of focusing on foreign policy, specifically imperialism as per God's wishes. Sherman, as one of the supporters of an amendment making America officially a Christian nation, brought out the idea of this amendment to the public to build on the past campaigns and found it to be remarkably popular if relatively meaningless. It seemed these social issues would evoke just as much excitement as economic ones which put the pieces for one crafty Republican Senator to create a winning coalition.

    In the background, the face of agrarian populism that the Greenbacks represented was changing. With a newfound religiosity in America both in politics and in concurrence with the Third Great Awakening, the doctrine of Social Gospel was rising. Christ promised to return on this earth once again, but this would only be after the Millennium where Christian beliefs and ethics prosper. To do it, man would have to fix the earth, and if something as horrific as the Long Depression and all the suffering it inflicted could happen, clearly the world was not ready. Everyone would need to be taken care of and that meant making sure farmers, the forgotten class, was cared for. You see, agrarian populism was not some selfish vote by an economically distressed class. It was the will of God! It would just take time to develop.

    1885-1888: James G. Blaine / Chester Arthur (Republican)
    1884: Thomas F. Bayard / Allen G. Thurman (Democratic), Benjamin F. Butler / Absolom M. West (Greenback/Anti-Monopoly), John St. John / William Daniel (Prohibition)
    1888-1889: James G. Blaine / VACANT (Republican)

    James Blaine was considered the most corrupt man in Washington, but the fact that he managed to stay in office showed a certain political cunning as well. Seizing the nomination after compromising with Conkling through Chester Arthur as Vice President, Blaine would run on a campaign lambasting the Tilden administration for its refusal to expand America as God willed it. Manifest Destiny was called destiny for a reason, but foolish Tilden didn't know it! He captured the fire of Grant with the detailed proposals of Sherman and crushed the colorless Bayard. After eight long years, Republicans were back in the White House.

    Meanwhile, Benjamin Butler took control of the now faltering Greenbacks. The Long Depression was way in the past, and the issue wasn't resonating anymore. But Butler didn't care about that. He didn't abandon his successful political career to take over some dying party. No, Butler wanted more than that. He wanted a grand alliance of these smaller single-issue parties to smash the corrupt two party system. Through fusion voting, anything was possible! Well, except that was a lot harder than it seemed. In the end, Butler would only manage to get the Greenback and Anti-Monopoly Party nominations, but even with that, he received more votes than the Prohibition Party. It got people's attention. Maybe there could be a viable third party. Perhaps a party that included farmer's rights and prohibition

    Perhaps in another world, the paths of imperialism and agrarian populism would continue down its separate paths. But instead in 1885, one of the leaders of the Social Gospel movement would write his magnum opus that would seize the country by its heart. Our Country: Its Possible Future and Its Present Crisis by Josiah Strong would codify in flowing polemic that it was God's will to colonize and spread His Word to those unknowing masses, that we as the Anglo-Saxon race was God's chosen people to Christianize and civilize the world, that God gave us this land that we call America because it is our Promised Land and is holy as that of Jerusalem. But yet even the Holy Land can be corrupted as it was by Pharisees and heretics as Jerusalem turns to Gomorrah. So it is to prevent this that we must fight against the great perils facing this nation: Catholicism, Mormonism, Socialism, Intemperance, Wealth, Urbanization, and Immigration.

    There is no doubt a copy landed on the President's desk. Whether it be that the book convinced Blaine or just aware how much of the country was convinced that Blaine began to follow the teachings in the book. When the Berlin Conference came about (slightly delayed due to Tilden having denied Belgian King Leopold's wish for the United States to recognize his ownership of the Congo) for all the nations to carve out what parts of Africa would go to who, Blaine would demand that America have its place in the sun. It was this insistence and the fact that Bismarck didn't want France nor Britain to have it that the Conference agreed, much to Leopold's chagrin, that Congo would be given to the United States as long as the US didn't bother the Europeans about Africa again. The news was met with great cheers back in the States as missionaries began to prepare to make a trip across the Atlantic as Strong's book encouraged. Strong himself began to build a strong network to support missionaries visiting Africa which would only increase his fame and prestige. Manifest Destiny and faith became intertwined in ways never expected before.

    1889-1893: James G. Blaine / Russell Alger (Republican)
    1888: Samuel Randall / Isaac P. Gray (Democratic), Leonidas L. Polk / Ignatius Donnelly (Farmer's Alliance/Union Reform), Clinton Fisk / John Brooks (Prohibition)

    Blaine would win his reelection by continuing to hammer home his strengths. He was already known across the country as an anti-Catholic man for his actions in pushing the failed Blaine Amendment. Seeing as it seemed to only help him, he successfully pushed the amendment again. Blaine would also pass Sherman's Christian Amendment to establish the United States as a Christian nation. On matters of nationalism, Blaine would build up the navy and enact immigration restrictions to prevent Catholics and Celestials from entering the US in the mass waves that they did in the past. After a failed push to take Santa Domingo once again, Blaine instead annexed the Kingdom of Hawaii into the Union. The classical liberal Bourbon Democrats protested these popular actions which would lead to Blaine easily defeated Minority Leader Randall in 1888.

    When the remains of the Greenbacks merged together in 1889 into the People's Party aka the Populists explicitly on Social Gospel principles, Blaine found himself rather concerned. Blaine was considering doing what Washington Wouldn't and Grant Couldn't, winning the fabled third term. As someone who had contributed to the religious fervor in the country, he could easily see how that it could be used against him by a skilled and popular preacher like Josiah Strong. So Blaine decided he would knock Strong out of the picture. In 1889, he announced that he would be appointing Josiah Strong as Territorial Governor of the American Congo, a task which the pastor took with much fervor. Under Strong, Leopoldville would be renamed New Jamestown to mark this historic moment in American imperialism while ordering the natives into church and to behave more "civilized" as he began to work to make the colony profitable.

    When Polish merchant mariner Józef Konrad arrived in New Jamestown, he would ride how the city looked like a normal American city with colonial style buildings. The natives would go to the magnificently built church on Sundays and be dressed according to western cultures. But Konrad remarked that there was a deadness in their eyes that he remembered many years later. Yet his writings would get little attention. Americans were happy to hear that Strong was bringing profits and faith to the colony while Blaine was pleased when the People's Party nominated an elderly Washington Gladden, a has-been in Social Gospel circles. His scheme had worked and secured him reelection to a third term.

    1893-1897: James G. Blaine / William McKinley (Republican)
    1892: David B. Hill / William Vilas (Democratic), Washington Gladden / Ignatius Donnelly (People's), John Bidwell / James Cranfill (Prohibition)

    It all started with a coup in Argentina that managed to annihilate agricultural prices. Then it turned into a panic on the banks. Then banks started running out of money. After a prosperous decade, it seemed the horrors of the 1870s were coming back as another Depression hit the United States.

    It was under this setting that Josiah Strong felt great concern for his people. He was uncertain what he could do during these trying times to alleviate the suffering of Americans while he was trying to civilize the Congo. During a particularly nasty outbreak of malaria, Strong was incapacitated in his bed, struck with illness. It was then that an angel appeared before Strong, identifying herself as Angel Columbia, the protector of America. Columbia delivered a message from God that while there was a great amount of work to be done outside of America, the Holy Land needed him now. He was to resign from his governorship and get on the next ship to America. Upon arriving, he was to restore Christ's church, to spread the Word, and to alleviate the suffering of His people. Strong obeyed the angel and even in illness, set upon his God-given task.

    America had been full of "prophets" throughout its history. They tended to either be laughed at or extend their followers to a sizable but still small small group in the grand scheme of things. So it was likely that if Strong had made this announcement at another period of time or if he had not been a celebrated and famed preacher and writer already read by millions across the country or perhaps even if the nation had not been fed for the past decade how expansion was their God-given destiny and that America was a special and exceptional land from God Almighty himself. But the timing was perfect, and the Prophet returned to the Promised Land to a nation that hardship had made humble enough to bow before the throne of God, to accept his messenger, and enter the halls of his blessed and holy Church of Columbia.

    Some would accuse Strong of planning the whole thing. Was it purely by chance that he was to return to America right when the country was most receptive for a message of hope? Was it purely by chance that his governorship of the Congo allowed him to amass a fortune so that he had the capital to build his church from the ground up? Was this all by chance that the ideas that this angel supposedly told him to found the church on was practically the things he had been writing all these years anyway? It was not chance, Strong would say. For the Lord works in mysterious way, his invisible hand of providence guiding his Prophet until he was ready for the message. The "convenience" of it all proved only that he truly was the Prophet, and it was through His Church that the suffering of his sheep would be alleviated with the social services the government under the Republicans and the newly empowered Democrats would not provide. Salvation would come not from the White House, but from the Temple.

    So it was so that Strong would continue to sow the seeds for his rise as another election passed.

    1897-1898: William Russell / John Palmer (Democratic)
    1896: James Forsyth / Matthew Quay (Republican), Charles E. Bentley / Thomas Watson (People's / Prohibition), Eugene Debs / Charles Matchett (Socialist Labor)

    1896 was a time of change. The Republicans, having had their bench hollowed out by a nasty midterm and Blaine's own sidelining of anyone talented for his ambition's sake, nominated a war hero and celebrity, the Man Who Tamed The West, out of desperation more than anything. The Populists, smarting from their less than impressive showing with Gladden due to his pro-Catholic views, decided no longer could they split the religious vote with the Prohibition Party and forged a unity ticket with pastor Charles Bentley. But it was the Democrats that produced a real man of change. The youngest nominee for President in American history, the Massachusetts Governor William Russell ran on Bourbonite principles of sound money. Paired with former Vice President John Palmer to show this wasn't a totally inexperienced ticket, Russell's earnest and optimistic speeches would win the day as a nation thoroughly disenchanted with Blaine and the Republicans chose new leadership somewhat skeptically.

    Russell would prove to be a perfectly fine economic leader who would ignore calls for bimetallism and would just ride out the economic storm. The problems arose when foreign policy came into the picture, when Bourbon anti-imperialism clashed with the nation's Manifest Destiny urges. With Spain weak and Cuba wide open for the taking, the yellow press blew a gasket at Russell for not seizing the territory and declaring war. Even when the warship Maine exploded in Havana harbor, Russell insisted that it was an accident and no action will be taken. Strong could take it no longer. In a speech carried by all the newspapers, Strong declared that Russell would be punished for denying God's will in taking Cuba, that he would not serve out the rest of his term. That this man claiming to be a prophet would suggest that the 41-year old Governor would somehow fail to finish his term was met with laughter throughout the country. It was met with eerie silence when President Russell would die of heart failure three days later.

    The Prophet had spoken.

    1898-1901: John Palmer / VACANT (Democratic)

    The nation's youngest President would be succeeded by the nation's oldest President, but it was almost like there was no difference. Palmer held strong that there was no need for war against Spain much to the nation's fury. The Democrats suffered in the midterms, some to the Republicans but mostly to the Populists. The nation didn't trust the Democrats on foreign policy, and it didn't trust the Republicans on fiscal policy which left only one party left.

    Meanwhile, Strong continued to gain strength as his Church's social services became more and more in need with the Bourbons and business Republicans continuing to offer little relief to those struggling and as people continued to be uncertain of what to make of Strong's fulfilled prophecy. Whether if his Church of Columbia movement which mixed American nationalism, imperialism, and Christianity together could gain nationwide attraction wasn't certain until the Boxer Rebellion. When raging Celestials slaughtered thousands of foreigners including Americans in Peking, Palmer would respond with righteous indignation backed by some handful of ships and marines. That the President of the United States would respond to this barbarity which such little backing infuriated the nation, especially when Germany had sent out a whole army to burn down the Chinese countryside like "Huns" as the Kaiser said. It was the final straw. As mobs would lynch Chinese immigrants in the streets of San Francisco, a feeling began to pervade across the country that the self-proclaimed prophet may in fact be right. Both the Republicans and Democrats had led the nation away from God's chosen path. If one was to accept that, there was really only one choice, and that was to elect the Prophet himself.

    1901-XXXX: Josiah Strong / Joseph B. Foraker ("Holy" Republican / "Millennialist" People's / Prohibition / United Christian)

    1900: Augustus Van Wyck / Carter Harrison Jr. (Democratic / Anti-Imperialist), James Weaver / Wharton Baker ("Strictly Agrarian" People's), Eugene Debs / Job Harriman (Labor), Morgan Bulkeley / Henry Clay Evans ("Agnostic" Republican)

    The Populists nominated Strong by acclaim. Not all believed he was truly a prophet, but they at least agreed with him and he had shown wisdom in his actions so far. The few who didn't stormed out and would form their own secular ticket, led by James Weaver, the 1880 Greenback nominee and thoroughly a has-been at this point. The Prohibitionists saw that Strong was their best chance and endorsed him as well. The United Christian Party was formed by evangelicals across the country to show who they supported which promptly endorsed Strong. The anti-Catholic American Protection Association would also announce in their paper that Strong was their man.

    With Palmer declining to run for his own term, the Democrats doubled down on the urban vote. They knew Strong would alienate Catholics and immigrants so they picked the New York Governor Augustus Van Wyck and the Chicago Mayor Carter Harrison Jr. as their ticket. Scandals would immediately erupt in the Democratic ticket. Van Wyck would find himself embroiled in a corruption scandal that took down his brother, the Mayor of New York, and which naturally implicated him. Harrison, despite being at the bottom of the ticket, was not freed from scandal as well with his Catholic wife becoming a target of the APA that would lead to Harrison famously cursing out an audience that he was to give a speech before. The Democrats seemed to have everything go wrong for them.

    The Republicans were still mostly benchless as a result of the late Blaine's amibitions. They could run some no-name Governor or Senator they had lying around and inevitably lose. But a different idea formed within some bosses. There was an alliance between Strong and Blaine during the 1880s. Why could that not be done again? And if he was a prophet of God as it seemed much of the nation believed, why get on his bad side? Let him be win purely on a Populist ticket, and then Strong would see that smashing corporations and spreading their remains over farmlands was a winning platform. No, they would need him on their side if corporate America was to survive. This was the logic of the ever wily Henry Clay Frick who convinced much of his fellow businessmen and Republican officials that the path forward lied with the Prophet. Some disagreed of course, but Frick made sure they received no support, leaving the splinter Republican ticket to be led by a wealthy gadfly Governor of little note or ballot access. Meanwhile, some of the Populists protested, but if the Prophet had decided an alliance was what was needed, who were they to disagree?

    And so it came to pass that the Promised Land would be led once again by a man of God, that blessed Columbia may fulfill her sacred duty to cleanse the world of sin and bring about the Millennium. The yellow hordes of China would have to pay for their crimes against God's chosen people. The heretics in Utah must be cast out into the ocean. The papists must be thrown out of our cities, out of our continent, out of Europe. No, there would be much work to be done before the world was cleansed and ready for Christ's return. There was little time. They had to work fast.

    The Lord may forgive all, but Josiah Strong is just a Prophet so he didn't have to. Amen.
     
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    Kaiser Julius - Shuffling after a Bad Deck
  • Shuffling after a Bad Deck: UK edition

    Clement Attlee: 1945-1950 (Labour) [1]
    Winston Churchill: 1950-1955 (Conservative)
    Hugh Gaitskell: 1955-1963 (Labour)
    Harold Wilson: 1963-64 (Labour)

    Alec Douglas-Home: 1964-1970 (Conservative)
    James Callaghan: 1970-74 (Lib-Lab) [2]
    Ted Heath: 1974-79 (Conservative)
    David Steel: 1979-87 (SDP)
    John Major: 1987-1992 (Conservative)
    Paddy Ashdown: 1992-2002 (SDP)
    William Hague: 2002-07 (Conservative)
    Michael Howard:2007-2010 (Conservative)

    Nick Clegg: 2010-2016 (SDP)
    Ed Miliband: 2016- (Radical)

    [1] POD Winston Churchill wins the 1950 election after allying with the National Liberals as OTL and Attlee loses his margin of 2 seats.

    [2] Wilson taking over as Gaitskell's successor split the Labour party assuring Home's victory. In 1970 Callaghan's Labour party is against Tony Greenwood's Radicals and Callaghan forms a government with the Liberals. They eventually unite into the SDP.
     
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    Augenis - Directors of the Estates-General of the Republic of France
  • I am bored, so I will make this list.

    A list of the currently known Directors of the Estates-General of the Republic of France from my TL, starting from the French victory against Anglo-French forces in the Flammantian Wars to the last chapter on France released so far.

    Enjoy.

    1576-1584: Jean de Foix (Independent)
    1576: No major opposition
    1580: No major opposition


    A hero of the Flammantian Wars, de Foix led the organized French rebellion against English Catholic dominance during the 15 year long Flammantian Wars, named after the unifying force behind the French - the Flammantian faith, an offshoot of the Reformation. Thanks to a successful Dutch intervention and the capture of King Henry IX in the Battle of Loire in 1573, the war came to a close with a French victory, and the Republic of France was established. de Foix was unanimously elected twice for the position, and while his style of rule was autocratic and not necessarily adherent to French values, the Republic survived him, even if he is still hailed as a hero to this day.

    1584-1588: Albertus Saint-Yves (Les Fédéralistes)
    1584: Gilebertus Suchet (Foixite), Verain Duret (Independent)

    1588-1596: Gilebertus Suchet (Foixite)
    1588: Albertus Saint-Yves (Les Fédéralistes), Verain Duret (Liberty), Philippe Gainsbourg (Piety)
    1592: Gerard Descombes (Les Fédéralistes), Verain Duret (Liberty), Philippe Gainsbourg (Piety)


    1596-1604: Jean-Claude Bardin (Clermont Foixite)
    1596: Philippe Sadoul (True Foixite), Jaquemin Boutin (Les Fédéralistes), Sylvain Pichard (Liberty), Herbin Allaire (Heroic)
    1600: Philippe Sadoul (Heroic-Foixite), Mathé Genest (True Heroic), Jaquemin Boutin (Les Fédéralistes), Sylvain Pichard (Liberty)


    1604-1608: Mathé Genest (Les Fédéralistes)
    1604: Godeffroy Choquet (Anti-Habsburg), Sylvain Pichard (Liberty), Victor Ponce (Piety)

    1608-1612: Nicolaus Duclos (Pro-Habsburg faction)
    1608: Godeffroy Choquet (Anti-Habsburg faction), Mathé Genest (Les Fédéralistes)

    1612-1624: Maximilien de Béthune (Anti-Habsburg faction)
    1612: Nicolaus Duclos (Pro-Habsburg faction), Jacobus Lalande (Les Fédéralistes)
    1616: Thierry Cuvillier (Pacifist), Jacobus Lalande (Les Fédéralistes)
    1620: Thierry Cuvillier (Pacifist), Jacobus Lalande (Les Fédéralistes)


    Maximilien de Béthune was elected in a tough time - tensions across Europe were rising, especially in the Holy Roman Empire. A fervent Flammantian, de Béthune pushed his country to war against the Habsburgs, supporting the Munich League and conflicting with the Emperor in Italy, which eventually led to the beginning of the Twenty Years' War in 1615. Despite France's main ally, Visegrad, leaving the war after a Lithuanian and later an Ottoman invasion, the French and the Munich league held on and even began to turn the tide, especially thanks to the death of Emperor Ferdinand.

    1624-1640: Jean-Baptiste Colbert (Blue Party)
    1624: Jean-Pascal Dubuisson (Pacifist), Jacobus Lalande (Les Fédéralistes), Robert Rousseau (Piety)
    1628: Jean-Pascal Dubuisson (Pacifist), Philippus Chapelle (Red Party)
    1632: Philippus Chapelle (Red Party), Mathé Bescond (Free Party)
    1636: Quentin-Delano Bouthillier (Red Party)


    Nowadays commonly considered to be one of the greatest Directors of France, Jean-Baptiste Colbert ruled over the nation for an unprecedented four terms, which later even backfired on his newly founded "Blue Party", as the opposition often referred to him as "King Jean-Baptiste I" and ran a smear campaign against his supporters. Colbert oversaw the final victory in the Twenty Years' War and the drafting of the Treaty of Amsterdam in 1630 to establish Europe's postwar borders. His rule saw the beginning of the French Golden Age, a period of unprecedented economic growth, prosperity and French domination over European politics.

    1640-1648: Quentin-Delano Bouthillier (Red Party)
    1640: Edouard Simon (Blue Party), Amaury Gaumont (Free Party)
    1644: Edouard Simon (Blue Party)


    1648-1652: Garnerus Charbonnier (Red Party)
    1648: Mile Brian (Blue Party)

    1652-1660: Christophe Jacquinot (Blue Party)
    1652: Garnerus Charbonnier (Red Party)
    1656: Clamens Jaubert (Red Party)


    1660-1668: Ernest Barthet (Blue Party)
    1660: Clamens Jaubert (Red Party)
    1664: Hemericus Milhaud (Red Party)


    1668-1676: Hemericus Milhaud (Red Party)
    1668: Gaétan Rousselot (Blue Party)
    1672: Gaétan Rousselot (Blue Party)


    1676-1684: Pierre de Foix (Blue Party)
    1676: Marc-Antoine Carpentier (Red Party)
    1880: Marc-Antoine Carpentier (Red Party)


    1684-1688: Husson Philippon (Red Party)
    1688: Théophile Caillat (Blue Party)
    1692: Théophile Caillat (Blue Party)


    1696-1704: Pierre Fatio (Red Party)
    1696: Dominique Veil (Blue Party)
    1700: Dominique Veil (Blue Party)


    Commonly known as the "father of the French colonial empire", Pierre Fatio sought to expand France's colonial holdings in Asia and South Vespucia, which drew the nation to conflict with the Inca Empire.

    1704-1712: Dominique Veil (Blue Party)
    1704: Aurélien Blaise (Red Party)
    1708: Lionel Bachelot (Red Party)


    1712-1720: Lionel Bachelot (Red Party)
    1712: Pierre-Marie Rochette (Blue Party)
    1716: Pierre-Louis Beaumont (Blue Party)


    1720-1724: Pierre-Louis Beaumont (Blue Party)

    1720: François Carrel (Red Party)

    Pierre-Louis Beaumont presided over the French-German War, sparked by a number of border conflicts between France and the HRE, during which French forces soundly defeated the less organized and less numerous Germans within the span of a single year. While this ensured continued French dominance over the region, it created a feeling of revanchism among the Germans, while the French grew to underestimate the power of the HRE.

    1724-1728: François Carrel (Red Party)
    1724: Pierre-Louis Beaumont (Blue Party)

    1728-1736: Didier Diderot (Red Party)
    1728: Pierre-Louis Beaumont (Blue Party)
    1732: Gilo Camille (Blue Party)


    1736-1738: Gilo Camille (Red Party)
    1736: Arsène Bourbeau (Blue Party), François Rousseau (Independent)

    1738-1746: Jacques Passereau (Red Party)
    1738: Arsène Bourbeau (Blue Party), François Rousseau (Independent)
    1742: Arsène Bourbeau (Blue Party)


    1746-1754: François Rousseau (Blue Party)
    1746: Jonathan Pernet (Red Party)
    1750: Jonathan Pernet (Red Party)


    An independent turned Blue Party member, François Rousseau had to deal with an international crisis as soon as he was elected - this being the Saxon Crisis, where a revolution tore down the old regime and was threatening to devolve into a rebellion across the entirety of the HRE. Rousseau advocated for maintaining peace, and thus he agreed to negotiate with the HRE and the rebellion leaders, working out a bipartisan solution to the crisis. With his moves, he prevented a war, and worked hard to rebuild relations with the HRE.

    1754-1758: Jonathan Pernet (Red Party)
    1754: Nicolas Neri (Blue Party)

    1758-1762: Léopold Barthélemy (Blue Party)
    1758: Jonathan Pernet (Red Party)

    1762-1770: François Doriot (Red Party)
    1762: Paulin Courvoisier (Blue Party)
    1766: Lucas Vannier (Blue Party)


    A retired general, François Doriot was one of the most anti-German politicians in the nation, and he ascended to the highest position in the nation in a very tough time. Director Doriot threatened with intervention in the Vespucia Free State and quelled a Republican rebellion in Bohemia, and after a brief conflict, his armies occupied the left bank of the Rhine and installed a French emperor in the Holy Roman Empire, which was the direct cause of the Great German Revolution. The election of 1770 arrived before Doriot could intervene in the revolutionary events in Vienna, but he always stayed as a loud supporter for French interventionism.

    1770-1776: Arthur Bachelot (Red Party)
    1770: Rasse Gérin-Lajoie (Blue Party)
    1774: Jean Claude D'Aboville (Blue Party)


    A controversial figure in French history, Arthur Bachelot led France during the German Revolutionary Wars. The French army underestimated the Germans, led by the talented Maximilian Schwarzburg, and suffered many major defeats during his first term, and despite a very successful reelection campaign and some bribery and extortion involved, the Red Party failed to acquire a majority in the 1774 election - but neither did the Blues. Bachelot was assigned as Director pro tempore until the war was resolved, which it was in 1776 thanks to a Lithuanian intervention, after which Bachelot was soundly defeated. Not a very competent, but a very conservative and anti-German Director, Bachelot nevertheless stands as one of the most important figures in French history.

    1776-1784: Jean Claude D'Aboville (Blue Party)
    1776: Arthur Bachelot (Red Party)
    1780: Maussart Brosseau (Red Party)


    A capable diplomat and a proponent of peace, Jean Claude D'Aboville organized the Paris Conference, which replaced the antiquated Amsterdam System and reorganized Europe with new borders drawn and new states established.

    1784-1788: Maussart Brosseau (Red Party)
    1784: Cedric de Calais (Blue Party)

    1788-1792: Cedric de Calais (Blue Party)
    1788: Maussart Brosseau (Red Party)

    Cedric de Calais is often called many things - an incapable administrator, a corrupt kleptocrat and others - but it should be noted that many of his perceived faults were created by the increasingly decadent and tiresome system, favoring only two parties, rather than his own personality. de Calais interfered in the Rhineland Referendum, hoping to create a victory for the pro-French movement and integrate the region into France, but not only did it fail, but the knowledge about fraud and bribery in the Rhineland created a public storm in his own nation, a storm that only grew wilder with the Black Weekend, when tons of information about massive widespread corruption, bribery, redrawing constituency lines for easy seats in the Estates-General and numerous other types of fraud from both parties were leaked to the public.

    1792-1800: Constantin Gounelle (En Avant)
    1792: Cedric de Calais (Blue Party), Francois D'Aboville (Red Party)
    1796: Francois D'Aboville (Protectionist), Jérémie Allais (Unionist), Jean-François Bissonnette (New Federalist)


    Constantin Gounelle was a lawyer and a statesman, a former member of the Blue Party who was assigned by Cedric de Calais to "investigate" and cover up fraud in the Rhineland, but instead fought against his superior and became the man behind the Black Weekend leaks. Uniting disgruntled politicians, activists and people from all sides of the spectrum, Gounelle formed the Forward movement, which then proceeded to win the 1792 election in a historical upset and became the first third party to win the election in 200 years. The Forwardists reformed the electoral process and created the Constitution of the Republic of France, and many of their Republican ideas live on to this day.

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    List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom


    1957-1963: Harold Macmillan (Conservative)
    1959: Hugh Gaitskell (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
    1963-1964: R. A. 'Rab' Butler (Conservative) [1]
    1964-1973: James Callaghan (Labour) [2]
    1964: R. A. 'Rab' Butler (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
    1966: R. A. 'Rab' Butler (Conservative), Eric Lubbock (Liberal), Patrick Downey (English Nationalist)
    1970: Iain Macleod (Conservative), Eric Lubbock (Liberal), Desmond Donnelly (Democratic), William Wolfe (Scottish National), Patrick Downey (English Nationalist), Gerry Fitt (Republican Labour), Ivan Cooper (NI Labour)

    1973-1975: George Brown (Labour) [3]
    1975-1982: Robin Chichester-Clark (Conservative) [4]
    1975: George Brown* (Labour), Eric Lubbock* (Liberal), Desmond Donnelly (Democratic), William Craig (VDUPP), William Wolfe (Scottish National), Patrick Downey (English Nationalist), Emrys Roberts (Plaid Cymru), Gerry Fitt (Republican Labour), Ivan Cooper (NI Labour)
    1978 (Minority): Bob Mellish (Labour), Mark Bonham-Carter (Liberal), Desmond Donnelly (Democratic), William Craig (VDUPP), William Wolfe (Scottish National), Emrys Roberts (Plaid Cymru), Patrick Downey (English Nationalist), Gerry Fitt (Independent Socialist), Ivan Cooper (NI Labour)

    1982-????: Bob Mellish (Labour)
    1982: Robin Chichester-Clark (Conservative), Mark Bonham-Carter (Liberal), Alan Clark (National), William Wolfe (Scottish Nationalist), Emrys Roberts (Plaid Cymru), Patrick Fahy (Nationalist), Gerry Fitt (Independent Socialist), John Hume (New Ulster)

    * = Lost seat

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    [1] Macmillan's resignation in 1963 paved the way for R. A. Butler to finally become Prime Minister. Butler's time in office would be dominated by a preparation for the upcoming general election. Butler's tenure in office would see the government's electoral fortunes turn around. While the Conservatives would not win the general election, they would see to it that the lead the Labour Party had formerly enjoyed, had been reduced to a mere two seat majority. This herculean feat could be considered to have been as a result of public uncertainty over the Labour Party's economic policy, as well as several results, such as Smethwick, which bucked the national trend and swung from Labour to the Conservatives.

    [2] During the first year of the new Labour government, the party would be dealt a major blow in the form of the Leyton by-election, engineered by the party leadership so as to allow the Foreign Secretary Patrick Gordon Walker to re-enter into the Commons after his loss in Smethwick in 1964. This backfired as the popular local Tory candidate won a surprise victory in the by-election. This would see a minor, but significant, reshuffle in the new government, Richard Crossman would be shifted from the Home Office to replace Gordon Walker; Home Office Minister Bob Mellish would be promoted to the position of Home Secretary. The government would be left with no majority and would be unable to engage in its proposed renationalisation program, due to two right-wing Labour MPs, Desmond Donnelly and Woodrow Wyatt opposing such policies. The Chancellor, Anthony Greenwood, would resign in frustration in April 1965, bemoaning the government's inability to press ahead with a more left-wing economic policy. Disagreements over the devaluing of the pound, something that Greenwood supporter, and which Callaghan was reluctant to press ahead with. In Greenwood's place the Prime Minister would appoint Tony Crosland as Chancellor of the Exchequer. Conflict within the Tory Party over foreign policy (after Shadow Defence Secretary Enoch Powell gave a speech arguing for withdrawal from East of Suez; a direct snub to the United States.) Questions were raised over Butler's leadership (or lack thereof), though he would remain in place. Crossman's brief tenure at the Home Office had seen a PMB introduced by Sydney Silverman, advocating the temporary suspension of the death penalty, was passed. After such a vote the new Home Secretary, Bob Mellish, was committed to preventing any further social change in the United Kingdom during his tenure at the Home Office. Moves to liberalise abortion, contraception and sodomy laws were blocked either by Mellish's direct actions, or by his reliance on 'Bob's Boys' - a group of social conservative Labour MPs (Simon & Peter Mahon, Walter Alldritt and Leo Abse) who would work together to kill PMBs on certain social questions (namely David Steel's abortion PMB in 1965.) The government would also see a gradual de-jure British withdrawal from South Arabia, installing the anti-communist FLOSY group under Abdullah al Asnag, in power. This, coupled with Tory divisions and the popularity of the government, would contribute to Labour's returning with nearly 380 seats at the 1966 general election. Silverman would be punished in his Nelson & Colne seat, where he would be defeated by a Tory backed candidacy from the ENP of Patrick Downey, the uncle of one of the victims of the Moors Murderers - he ran on a decidedly pro-death penalty ticket. After the election, relations with the United States began to decline further, through the actions of the Foreign Secretary, Richard Crossman (who would be called "a lazy S.O.B. by President Johnson during a visit in 1967), the county would begin to lapse on its NATO commitments. The US were especially irked by the government's refusal to get involved in Vietnam and its withdrawal from South Arabia (where a communist revolt was expected.) Relations with Israel would improve during this period; an intervention of advisors to Biafra to aid the Igbo people was also proposed, though nothing would come of this. The 1968 Conservative leadership election would see Iain Macleod propelled to a narrow victory over Enoch Powell and Reginald Maudling (who was harmed by his support of his daughter, who bore an illegitimate child.) UK efforts to join the EEC would be further frustrated with French President Charles de Gaulle's use of a veto once again in 1969. The Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1969 would see a general move to tighten immigration laws - this would pass with backbench Tory support. This was not enough for Wyatt and Donnelly who would split off to form their own 'Democratic Party' in 1969. The passage of the bill was condemned and applauded from many different quarters - Ian Gilmour, Iain Macleod and the Beatles (with their 'Commonwealth' song which directly referenced Mellish) would be strong opponents of Mellish and his immigration reforms. In Northern Ireland the position of the embattled UUP leader Terence O'Neill would come to a head with the bombing of a water reservoir by loyalists in 1969 - he would be replaced by critic and former government minister Brian Faulkner, who defeated O'Neill's (equally critical) cousin James Chichester-Clark, by a single vote. British troops, with assurances of support for the B Specials and the RUC, from Mellish, would be met with warmth from Irish Catholic Nationalists. During this period the Liberal Party would elect the social liberal Eric Lubbock as its new leader, making the potential of Liberal support for the Conservatives in the event of a hung parliament more likely. Heading into 1970 the government would receive a shock concerning the nation's finances, leading to Crosland making the unpopular decision of devaluing the pound. Increases in taxation across the board were seen to 'lessen the blow' (in the words of the Foreign Secretary.) Heading into the election year of 1970, Callaghan would see to it that the cabinet would be 'spring cleaned' appointing loyal Ministers to his government, in place of more rebellious Ministers. Mellish would introduce The Misuse of Drugs Act 1970, a hardline anti-drug bill which would see drug use, possession, dealing, and production, dealt with seriously by the authorities. in cabinet the legislation was criticised by the Education Secretary Roy Jenkins; he would be attacked by Mellish who branded him a “supreme sodomite and evangelist for permissiveness.” The publication of a white paper written by Harold Wilson and Barbara Castle was met with fury from Number 10 who threatened the two with immediate removal from office. Callaghan's address to a generally belligerent TUC was receive with an standing ovation, and is considered one of the best speeches of a British Prime Minister during the second part of the twentieth century. The release of trading figures before the 1970 general election would see many predict that Labour would fall below a majority. While this didn't materialise, the government was reduced to a mere 338 seats. Callaghan's first act in office was to sack Jenkins from the cabinet, replacing him with ardent loyalist Ray Gunter. A mass demonstration in Trafalgar Square in November 1970, held by students to protest the government's conservative social policy, would turn into a series of riots that would grip the nation until January 1971. The riots only succeeded in launching the annual Nationwide Festival of Light, a Christian march which received support from various members of the government. Around this time Macleod would die and was replaced by moderate Ulster MP Robin Chichester-Clark, who once again defeated Powell by a slender margin. At the Tory conference where Chichester-Clark was elected, the party delegates voted in favour of a plank that would commit a future Tory government to supporting the reintroduction of the death penalty. The move to reintroduce the death penalty would begin in summer the early summer of 1972 when Downey introduced a PMB to do just that. It would receive behind the scenes support from the Home Office and would be buoyed with Downey's moving speech in the chamber, which saw many nominally anti-rope MPs vote in his favour. The country would however get bogged down in a conflict in South Arabia, supporting the anti-communist FLOSY regime, against the Soviet aligned communist forces, the Federation of Arab Republic backed YAR and forces of the Kingdom of Yemen, who were aided by Saudi Arabia. 'Britain's Vietnam' would play a major part in culture during this decade, with the much loved 'NAAFI' comedy series arising out of the (funnier side of the) conflict. The effects of the Arab invasion and near defeat of Israel in late 1972 would see the British government stretched to breaking point in an effort to support their Israeli allies. During the crisis the Foreign Secretary, Richard Crossman, would collapse due to ill health, and was replaced by Denis Healey at the Foreign Office (John Stonehouse would replace Healey at the MoD.) The conflict would ultimately be won by Israel after using small nuclear devises against the Arab forces. As a retaliation for western support for Israel, OPEC would force the price of a barrel of oil to over $4. In the aftermath of the events the Prime Minister addressed the nation on Christmas Eve 1972, he announced he would be standing down in the new year.

    [3] George Brown's election as Labour leader was both a surprise and a shock to many in Westminster. The Labour Deputy Leader had just scraped into the last round ahead of Denis Healey, and would defeat Harold Wilson in a hotly contested leadership race. The party and country would be rocked by allegations concerning a communist spy being in the party and even the cabinet. Brown won on account of him having no suggestions of an affiliation with the eastern bloc. His new cabinet would be filled with loyalists of the old leadership of the party. Many of those who had badmouthed Brown over the prior years would suffer demotion or the sack as a result of their comments. Brown would launch a goodwill tour after his election, meeting voters up and down the country in an effort to combat the government's haemorrhaging at the polls - especially as the forces of Scottish, Welsh, and English nationalism flexed their muscles, generally at Labour's expense. In Northern Ireland the situation was deteriorating, though the authorities still had the upper hand. Faulkner would be weakened at the 1973 general election in NI, with the Nationalist Party winning 11 seats, owing to the Unionist vote being split between Bill Craig & Ian Paisley's VDUPP and the NI Labour Party led by David Bleakley. Brown would soon after jet off to Washington, D.C. for talks with the Murphy Administration, in an attempt to warm relations between the two nations. While there was definitely a move in 'the right direction,' relations still were quite icy. Brown would notably (and jokingly) dance with 'Taptoe George' to a mock version of 'Bad Bad Leroy [George] Brown.' Back at home as 1973 became 1974 the global recession began to ease off, this gave Brown's government a bit of breathing room over the coming months. This breathing space would soon contract once more, when it was reported that several leading military officials believed that the war in South Arabia was a drain on resources and could have been 'won' much sooner if the war and resources had not been mismanaged. A whiff of financial improprieties concerning the Defence Secretary would help contribute to the government's fall in support at the end of the year. This, coupled with the buoyant Conservative & Unionists in the polls, would lead to a rather predictable result in the end for the general election.

    [4] Robin Chichester-Clark would form the first Conservative government in over a decade in 1975. He was the first Conservative Prime Minister to have a direct link to Northern Ireland since Bonar Law, who had served as Prime Minister five decades prior. The immediate priorities of the government were to ensure that the 'damage' of the Labour government over the last decade. Decimalisation and various tax reforms were spearheaded in the first budget of Anthony Barber. Meanwhile a PMB introduced by Ian Gilmour would see homosexuality decriminalised in late 1975 - 'too little too late' in the words of the PMB's introducer. Pushes to liberalise other social issues would ultimately come to nothing, as Chichester-Clark was reluctant to support such pushes, especially with the conservative electorate in his Londonderry seat. Chichester-Clark's government would be formed by a mixture of those on the right and left of the party; Barber at the Treasury, Rippon at the Foreign Office, Amery at the Ministry of Defence, Norman St John-Stevas at the Home Office, Sandys at the new Commonwealth Affairs Office, Thatcher at Education, Heath (having returned to parliament in a by-election in Cambridge in 1967) was the newly created Minister for Europe, Airey Neave was the new Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. The 'Government of All Talents' was seen as a welcome break from the Callaghan cabinet format with its silencing of those who disagreed with the general direction of policy within government. In relation to Northern Ireland policy, Chichester-Clark saw to it that there would be a 'gloves off' approach to militants on both sides of the isle, while also supporting general reform of institutions (or "tinkering within") political and social, without removing said institutions. These moves would ultimately result in the adoption of fairer electoral boundaries (the removal of the 'Derrymandered' electoral boundaries, which were replaced with multimember constituencies based on council areas, which would each elect three members - except Belfast which saw three members elected based on the nine electoral districts within the city) that exist to this day. The moves were generally well received by most across the political divide, though this did contribute to a further haemorrhaging of votes from the OUP to the VDUPP. A general strike was called in opposition to these moves by the Ulster Workers Council, the move nearly ground Northern Ireland to a halt as the means of energy production were now unmanned. Only the intervention by the military to get services up and running, the resolve of Faulkner and the eventual boredom of some of the strikers, would see the strike fail in its aim of forcing the government's hand and collapsing the Faulkner government. At the 1977 general election in Northern Ireland, Faulkner would gain a slightly larger share of the vote and would gain a handful of seats, ensuring his position as Premier was moderately safer than it had been in 1973. Moves towards devolution were made for Wales and Scotland, with the party adhering to the Declaration of Perth which committed the party to a devolved Scottish Assembly. Referendums were held in both Wales and Scotland (a motion for a Yes vote to be endorsed by 40% of the entire electorate was voted down) in 1976; Scotland would narrowly vote Yes by a 52-48 margin (there was divisions within both the Scottish Conservative and Labour parties on the question - most Tories were understood to be leaning towards No); Wales would reject devolution by a 77-33 margin. The Scottish Assembly would convene for the first time on St. Andrew's Day 1978, with Conservative George Younger elected as Chief Executive, leading a minority coalition with the Scottish Liberals (led by Laura Grimond, wife of the former leader, who would take the position of Deputy Chief Executive); Labour was led into second place by Tam Dalyell, the SNP were led by William Wolfe (their leader and 'longtime' MP), and the 'Scottish Labour Party' of Jim Sillars would return three MSAs at that election. The failure to achieve 'home rule' for Wales would not weaken the rise of Plaid Cymru in Wales. The global economy by 1977/78 was generally in a far better place than it had been during 1972/73. The government's programme of small-to-medium scale privatisation of several industries was generally popular, though it was met with a series of strikes in early 1978, of which the government would emerge with a slight upper hand. At the 1975 general election Labour and the Liberals had seen both of their leaders lose their marginal seats to Conservative candidates, thus forcing both parties to hold leadership elections in the coming months. The Liberals would see a fight between the various factions of the party - the traditional Liberals represented by Mark Bonham-Carter, the social liberals (now increasingly dominated by Roy Jenkins and his acolytes) represented by David Marquand (a 'paper' candidate for Roy Jenkins), and the outsiders, represented by Emlyn Hooson and Trevor Jones. Bonham-Carter would narrowly edge Marquand for the leadership. For Labour, the leadership race was seen as a referendum on the Callaghan years, yet it was a remarkably open and shut election. Bob Mellish would easily see off challenges from the left - in the form of Barbara Castle, and from the Gaitskellite right - in the form of Douglas Jay. Mellish's victory is seen to have been as a result of his close connections with the party whips and his usage of patronage while at the Home Office. One of the more interesting episodes of his earlier leadership was concerning the MP for Northampton North - Maureen Colquhoun. Colquhoun had been selected as a safe pair of hands and a traditional female MP. She raised some eyebrows with her insistence early on in the new parliament at being addressed to as Ms. rather than Mrs. by the Speaker (Enoch Powell, who had been elected to the post not long before stated that in the interest of parliamentary tradition he would not entertain the request.) She was seen initially as an ally of Mellish on account of her seemingly defending his Immigration policy and arguing against branding people as racialists. This would earn her a junior shadow ministerial position. This would all change when she decided to come out and announce she was a lesbian and would leave her Sunday Times journalist husband Keith Colquhoun for a female publisher. Mellish, enraged, saw to it that she was deselected by her constituency party due to her "obsession with trivialities such as women's rights." She appealed this decision, but was rebuffed by the party NEC. After she punched a car park attendant after he made a slur against her, Mellish would use this as an opportunity to have her whip resigned. Sensing she had no chance at getting back into the parliamentary party, Colqhoun would sit as an Independent until November 1977, when she would form the 'Women's Party' - a direct reference to the party founded by Christabel and Emmeline Pankhurst nearly sixty years to the day. The party would gain some words of encouragement from the likes of Germaine Greer and other leading feminists, but its growth would be stifled by the calling of a general election. Despite being endorsed by the local Liberal (and ironically National Front) party, Colquhoun would come in a distant third with a respectable 23% of the vote - this would hand the seat to Conservative Richard Tracey. Still, the Women's Party would remain a fixture of British elections for some time. The government would be obsessed by the issue of Europe around this time. Gaining British membership of the European Economic Community had been the aspiration of virtually every British government since Macmillan was forced to tears by the stubbornness of de Gaulle when he had attempted to gain British membership of the Community. All British applications had been vetoed by de Gaulle during his lifetime, though after his death the more reasonable centrist Alain Poher had been elected President of the French Republic in 1970. George Brown had set the groundworks for British entry during the latter period of his time in Number 10; now Chichester-Clark reasoned that it was his turn to try and gain British entry into the Community. The start of the talks would be overshadowed by the defections of Alan Clark and Peter Griffiths to the National Front on account of the government's rather laid back immigration policy and stance on Europe. After a series of negotiations it was agreed that the United Kingdom would be permitted membership of the Community - newly elected President Mitterand would not object to British membership of the Community. Chichester-Clark was then prepared to present a bill of parliament to have British membership be endorsed by parliament. He was then 'spooked' by the Chief Whip who (incorrectly) informed him that Mellish would attempt a stunt and would have the PLP vote down the measures - claiming he had a plan for a better settlement for the UK (Mellish was actually a pro-Marketeer and would have voted for the bill.) Chichester-Clark then abruptly announced that a general election would be fought on the question of British membership of the Community. Over the course of the campaign Mellish would argue for a referendum to be held on the matter, so as to deflect from the Labour Party's division on the question. Chichester-Clark in a momentary lapse of judgement would blurt out that a vote for the Conservatives would see a referendum held. In the end the general election saw the Conservatives fall just short of a majority, while Labour had to fight off challenges from Plaid Cymru in Wales; the SNP & Sillars' SLP (Sillars would be the only SLP MP re-elected.) After several days of negotiations, Chichester-Clark would enter into a confidence and supply agreement with Bonham-Carter's Liberals. Almost as soon as the new government convened, the referendum campaign would begin. The Yes campaign was backed by the leadership of the Conservative and Liberal Parties, as well as the Northern Irish VDUPP. The Labour Party in the interest of avoiding a split, opted to adopt no official party position for the referendum. The No campaign was backed by the SNP, Plaid Cymru, the NI Nationalist Party, the OUP, the National Front, the CPGB, and the Scottish Labour Party. Polls initially showed that the British people were tepid and reluctant to support British membership of the Community. The polls would narrow and show a narrow lead for Yes owing to the large financial support that it entertained from business and individual backers. What the No campaign lacked in funds it made up for in terms of raw passion. The No campaign however lacked a central, moderate, and popular figure to play the public leadership role that the Yes campaign had in Chichester-Clark, Jenkins, and Rippon. They would find this individual in the form of former Prime Minister James Callaghan who announced he would (despite having tried to gain British entry in 1969) be voting No in the referendum. With that the No campaign managed to rise in the polls leading to the result being seen as a toss up by polling day on the 13th July 1978. Results indicated that membership had been rejected in Northern Ireland, Scotland, the southern part of Wales. London, the north east and parts of south Yorkshire. Yorkshire and the majority of rural England and (central & western) Wales were in favour of Yes. The result however would be a disappointing one for Chichester-Clark and the government, with the country rejecting EEC membership by a 52.5-47.5 margin. Britain would not be joining the Common Market. This would represent a downward spiral for the Chichester-Clark government. Concerns about communist influence in the west reared their ugly head once again in early 1979 when US President Edward Gurney was slain by an assassin's bullet at a rally in Memphis - the killer was an alleged communist. The fact that Theodore Robert Bundy was a former Republican operative appeared to not filter through the media and public frenzy. Vice President Robert McNamara would take the oath of office less than an hour after the President was confirmed dead. The House of Commons Committee on Un-British Activities, under Chairman John Gouriet would see renewed interest after its formation in 1974. Then the global economy took a nosedive in 1979 and entered into a 'winter of discontent.' That year would signal a change of government economic policy away from non-interventionism towards a more interventionist economic policy. Taxes were increased across the board, wages and prices were frozen by the government in an attempt to try and contain inflation, the amount of money that could be take abroad was capped at a lower rate that it had been before, and all financial transactions overseas needed Treasury approval. These moves were very unpopular and led to Barber being unfavourably compared with Crosland. Moves to make the economic approach more centralised to the Treasury would see the Economic Affairs position dissolved and merged into the Treasury. To make matters worse a series of public sector strikes were called due to wage increase freezes. The government saw that its hands were tied due to the economic conditions, but were unprepared to give into the strikers - a standoff between the unions and the government would begin. Chichester-Clark did little to alleviate fears when he arrived back from a NATO summit in Barbados at Heathrow, where he was asked what his approach to the mounting chaos in the country was - the Prime Minister would chuckle and begin to answer, yet it was the chuckle that was carried on the news that evening. 'Robin out of touch' boomed the Mirror, 'Crisis? What Crisis?' exclaimed The Sun, carrying a photo of Chichester-Clark half-way through his laugh. The Conservative position in the polls nosedived, while Mellish's Labour Party continued to tick upwards. This rise was only stilted when allegations of Mellish sexually harassing a young male Labour activist at a constituency event were reported in The Guardian. Mellish brushed this off and made a variety of homophobic slurs about the openly gay individual and threatened to take The Guardian to court. The Guardian published an apology soon after. Some felt that Mellish received his comeuppance when a Gay Liberation Front activist smashed him in the face and broke his nose at an event in Bradford. The nation's economic state, coupled with Mellish's increasingly outlandish remarks provided Chichester-Clark with a window of opportunity to call an election in early June 1982. By this time the Tories had a unified threat from the right - the VDUPP, National Front, Democratic Party, and the English Nationalist Party had all merged into the right-wing National Party, led by Alan Clark. In an attempt to capitalise on wrong footing Labour and to use Mellish's outlandish nature to the Tories' advantage a 'debate' was held between the two main party candidates. The programme would take place in front of a live studio audience with Donald MacCormack questioning each leader in a half-an-hour segment separately. Mellish appeared first and was seen as rather effect, taking the fight to his inquisitor and stating that he would take a stand against the dishonest media which misrepresented him - that was quite a popular response. Chichester-Clark answered ably for the most part, but had been outshone by Mellish who had not self destructed as the head of the Tory campaign, party Chairman Airey Neave, had hoped. The election saw Labour win a narrow majority over the Conservatives, while the Liberals continued their slow rise into the high teens - the National Party gained a seat (in Ulster) overall to go on top of the eight it notionally held. Chichester-Clark took the loss in his stride, he would stand down at the next general election and would become a member of the board for the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and an active member of the House of Lords, taking the title of Lord Chichester-Clark of Maghera.
     
    Mumby - p r e s e r v a t i v e
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    2016-2022: Frank Goldsmith (Preservative)
    2016 (Coalition with Liberals) def. John Cruddas (Labour), Alexander Johnson (National Unionist), Wilson Carswell (Liberal)
     
    TwiliAlchemist - Cheney/Paul 2000
  • 2000-2003: Dick Cheney/Ron Paul (R) [1]
    def: Al Gore/Bernie Sanders (D)
    2003-2008: Ron Paul/Mitt Romney (R) [2]
    def: John Edwards/Wesley Clark (D)
    2008-2012: George W. Bush/John Kasich (R) [3]
    def: Bill Richardson/Barack Obama (D)
    2012-2016: Bernie Sanders/Joe Biden (D) [4]
    def: Marco Rubio/Rand Paul (R)
    2016-2020: Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren (D) [5]
    def: Rick Santorum/Newt Gingrich (R)
    2020-2024: Elizabeth Warren/Matt Cartwright (D) [6]*
    def: John Kasich/Rand Paul (R), Hillary Clinton/Cory Booker (Modercrats)


    [1] Dick Cheney would die in office of heart problems
    [2] Ron Paul would relax regulations and the economy would boom under him
    [3] While things started out great for George W. Bush's term, things would go south with the 2009 Market Crash
    [4] Bernie Sanders would be elected in a landside victory as the US would send troops into Europe after the Third World War would begin in the South China Sea
    [5] Bernie Sanders would win re-election, but he would die before the war would be over.
    [6] Elizabeth Warren would drop the MOAB on two cities in Europe, ending the Third World War. Despite this, she would soon become dragged down by involvement in the Ukrainian Civil War which would cause her to lose re-election.

    *Electoral Map is HERE
     
    AlfieJ - No Time for a Novice
  • No Time for a Novice

    1997-2007: Tony Blair (Labour)
    1997 (Majority) def. John Major (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
    2001 (Majority) def. William Hague (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
    2005 (Majority) def. Michael Howard (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)


    2007-2007: Gordon Brown (Labour Majority)

    2007-2008: David Cameron (Conservative)
    2007 (Minority) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Ming Campbell (Liberal Democrat)

    2008-2009: Liam Fox (Conservative Minority)

    2009-????: Gordon Brown (Labour)
    2009 (Majority) def. Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat) Liam Fox (Conservative), Gerard Batten (Freedom)

    2013 (Majority) def. John Bercow (Conservative), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat), Gerard Batten (Freedom), Evan Harris (Radical!)
    2017 (Majority) def. Anna Soubry (Conservative), David Laws (New Liberal), Bill Etheride (Freedom)



    1994-2007: Tony Blair

    1994 def. John Prescott, Margaret Beckett

    2007-????: Gordon Brown
    2007 def. n/a (Unopposed)
    2008 def. David Miliband, Michael Meacher
     
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