List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Prime Ministers of the Imperial Kingdom of Great Britain, 1930-Present:

Stanley Baldwin, 1930-1942

Winston Churchill, 1942-1958

Harold M Macmillan, 1958-1965

Alec Douglas-Home, 1965-1973

Reginald Maudling, 1973-1980

Margaret Thatcher, 1980-1994

Jonathan Major, 1994-2004

Following the 2004 rebellions, the Empire collapsed and was replaced by multiple nation states. On the 11th November 2004, the Empire officially collapsed and new nations were created - Canada, Northern America, South Africa and India, among others. The Kingdom became the Commonwealth of Britain, as Frederick II fled the country.

Monarchs:

Anne , 1702-1707
William III, 1707-1741
Frederick I, 1741-1755
Elizabeth II, 1755-1780
William IV, 1780-1822
William V, 1822-1898
Henry IX, 1898-1903
Elizabeth III, 1903-1967
Edward VII, 1967-1996
Frederick II, 1996-2004 (Monarchy Abolished)

Presidents of the Commonwealth of Britain (Heads of State)

Anthony Blair, 2004-2010 , Progressive

David Cameron, 2010-2017, Conservative

Andy Burnham, 2017-Present, Progressive

PMs (
 
Presidents rearranged by Date of Birth, serving roughly the same time as in OTL

1789-1797: George Washington
1797-1801: John Adams
1801-1809: Thomas Jefferson
1809-1817: James Madison
1817-1825: James Monroe
1825-1833: Andrew Jackson
1833-1837: John Quincy Adams
1837-1837: William Henry Harrison
1837-1841: Martin Van Buren
1841-1842: Zachary Taylor
1842-1845: John Tyler
1845-1849: James Buchanan
1849-1853: James K. Polk
1853-1857: Millard Fillmore
1857-1861: Franklin Pierce
1861-1865: Andrew Johnson
1865-1869: Abraham Lincoln
1869-1877: Ulysses S. Grant
1877-1881: Rutherford B. Hayes
1881-1885: Chester A. Arthur
1885-1885: James A. Garfield
1885-1889: Benjamin Harrison

1889-1897: Grover Cleveland
1897-1901: William McKinley
1901-1909: Woodrow Wilson
1909-1913: William Howard Taft
1913-1921: Theodore Roosevelt
1921-1923: Warren G. Harding
1923-1929: Calvin Coolidge
1929-1933: Herbert Hoover
1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt
1945-1953: Harry Truman
1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower
1961-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson
1965-1973: Ronald Reagan
1973-1978: Richard Nixon
1978-1981: Gerald Ford
1981-1985: John F. Kennedy
1985-1989: George H.W. Bush
1989-1993: Jimmy Carter
1993-1997: Donald Trump
1997-2005: George W. Bush
2005-2013: Bill Clinton
2013-2021: Barack Obama

Unsure if it's been done before, but here it is.
 
Hugh Gaitskell 1965-1966 Labour*
George Brown 1966 Labour

Ian Macleod 1966-1970 Conservative*
William Whitelaw 1970 Conservative

James Callaghan 1970-1974 Labour
James Callaghan 1974-1975 (Minority;
Liberal supply agreement)
Anthony Crosland 1975-1977 Labour*
Roy Jenkins 1977-1980 Labour

Geoffrey Howe 1980-1983 Conservative*
Hugh Fraser 1983-1984 Conservative*
Ian Gow 1984-1990 Conservative*
Jim Pryor 1990-1997 Conservative

Gerald Kaufman 1997-2010 Labour
Damian Green 2010-2016 Conservative
David Cameron 2016-2020 Conservative

Stella Creasy 2020-... Labour

* Died in Office
 
Vicepresidents AU (And runner ups as vicepresidents):
NOTE: This timeline is assuming that the people that became presidents in real life didnt took politics (except for Johnson)

1961-1969 Hubert Humphrey/Lyndon B. Johnson
def 1960. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr/Thurston Morton
def 1964. Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller

1969-1977 Nelson J. Rockefeller/George W. Romney
def 1968. Eugene McCarthy/Edmund Muskie
def 1972. George McGovern/Sargent Shriver

1977-1981 Walter Mondale/Jerry Brown
def 1976. George W. Romney/Howard Baker
1981-1989 Spiro Agnew/Dick Cheney
def 1980. Walter Mondale/Jerry Brown
def 1984. Gary Hart/Jesse Jackson

1989-1993 Dick Cheney/Bob Dole
def 1988. Michael Durkakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1993-2001 Al Gore/Paul Tsongas (1993-1997), Joe Lieberman (1997-2001)
def 1992. Dick Cheney/Bob Dole
def 1996. Jack Kemp/Pat Buchanan

2001-2009 Dan Quayle/John McCain
def 2000. Joe Lieberman/Bill Bradley
def 2004. John Edwards/John Kerry

2009-2017 Joe Biden/Hilary Rhodham
def 2008. John McCain/Mitt Romney
def 2012. Sarah Palin/Paul Ryan

2017-2021 Mike Pence/Ted Cruz
def 2016. Hilary Rhodham/Tim Kaine
2021-Present Kamala Harris/Bernie Sanders
def 2020. Mike Pence/Ted Cruz
 
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Prime Minsters of the Second Republic of Armenia:

Well and truly glorious to see you post this here. I'd like to clarify some things about this list, however: what happened to the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, and does the Second Armenian Republic have a head of state?
 
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Lesser known presidential dynasties
9. Abraham Lincoln (Whig)
(March 4, 1845-March 4, 1849)
10. Martin Van Buren (Democratic)
(March 4, 1849-March 4, 1853)

11. Zhackary Taylor (Whig)
(March 4, 1853-March 4, 1857)

12. James Buchanan (Democratic)
(March 4, 1857-March 4, 1861)
13. Andrew Johnson (Democratic)
(March 4, 1861-March 4, 1869)
14.Robert E. Lee (Democratic)
(March 4, 1869-March 4, 1873)
15. Richard Taylor (Democratic)
(March 4, 1873-March 4, 1877)

16. Chester A. Arthur (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1877-March 4, 1885)
17. William Mahone (Readjuster)
(March 4, 1885-March 4, 1889)

18. Theodore Roosevelt Sr. (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1889-March 4, 1893)
19. Henry Waters Taft (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1893-March 4, 1897)
19. Chester A. Arthur II (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1897-March 4, 1901)
20. Royal C. Taft(Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1901-March 4, 1905)
21. Charles Phelps Taft (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1905-March 4, 1909)
22. Henry Waters Taft (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1909-March 4, 1913)
23. John Sharp Williams ( Bourbon Democratic)
(March 4, 1913-March 4, 1921)
23. Helen Herron Taft (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1921-March 4, 1929)
24. Kenesaw Mountain Landis (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1929-March 4, 1937)
25. Theodore Roosevelt (Whig-Republican)
(March 4, 1937-April 15, 1941)
Theodore Roosevelt (New Progressive Alliance)
(April 15,1941-January 21, 1949)
26. Robert Taft Jr. (Whig-Republican)
(January 21, 1949-January 21, 1957)
27. Charles Phelps Taft II (Whig-Republican)
(January 21, 1957-January 21, 1965)
28. Barry Morris Goldwater (Conservative Union)
(January 21, 1965-January 20, 1973)
29. Lyndon B. Johnson (Conservative Union)
(January 20, 1973-January 20, 1977)
30. Jimmy Carter (Liberal)
(January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981)

31. Fritz Hollings (Conservative Union)
(January 20, 1981-January 20, 1985)
32. William Howard Taft IV ( Whig-Republican)
(January 20, 1985-January 20, 1993)
33. Jay Rockefeller (Conservative Union)
(January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001)
34. Billy Carter (Whig-Republican)
(January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009)
35.Barry Goldwater Jr. (Conservative Union)
(January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017)
36. Bob Taft (Whig-Republican)
(January 20, 2017-January 20, 2021)
37. Lynda Bird Johnson (Conservative Union)
(January 20, 2021-present)
 
*=Died, **=Assassinated, >=Resigned, red=Republican, blue=Democrat

Clevelanding III: Stop Copying Me!

22/24: Grover Cleveland(1885-1889, 1893-1897)/Thomas A Hendricks*(1885), Isaac P Gray*(1893-1895)[1]
23/25: Benjamin Harrison(1889-1893, 1897-1901)/William Walter Phelps(1889-1893), Frederick D Grant(1897-1901)
26: William Jennings Bryan/David B Hill(1901-1909)[2]
27: William Randolph Hearst**/John W Kern(1909-1912)
28: John W Kern(1912-1913)

29: Joseph B Foraker*/Charles Edward Merriam(1913-1917)[3]
30: Charles Edward Merriam(1917-1925)/Albert Fall(1921-1925)[4]

31: Henry Ford/John W Davis(1925-1933)

[1]POD is that a different VP lets Harrison pass the Lodge Bill, and he loses narrowly in comparison. He manages to get nominated in 1896, but again it's another close one and against Adlai Stevenson I. The major realignment is going to be in four years. His VP was picked for name recognition. I decided to give Cleveland a different VP to shake things up
[2]Populism gets his boost in 1900. For a new century we get William Jennings Bryan. Hearst tried, but he was considered too maverick for the time. However he does follow the popular Bryan, only to prove himself rather unpopular and ends up being assassinated by an angry out of work journalist
[3]An old guard, the more traditional Foraker saw himself become president. He was an important military figure during the tense tens, however would die shortly into his second term
[4]Charles wins in an upset comparable to Truman, but the Dems get the next eight years after him.
[5]A lot has changed in the timeline. You may begin screaming

Clevelanding IV: Wilson's Revenge

25: William McKinley**(1897-1901)/Garret Hobart*(1897-1899), Theodore Roosevelt(1901)
26: Theodore Roosevelt(1901-1909)/Charles W Fairbanks(1905-1909)

28/30: Woodrow Wilson*(1913-1917, 1921)/Thomas R Marshall(1913-1917), Franklin D Roosevelt(1921)[1]
29: Charles Evan Hughes(1917-1921)/Charles W Fairbanks*(1917-1918)
31: Franklin D Roosevelt(1921-1929)/Homer S Cummings(1925-1929)[2]
32: Charles G Dawes/James E Watson(1929-1933)
33: Al Smith**(1933-1939)/John Nance Garner(1933-1937), Huey Long(1927-1939)[3]
34: Huey Long*(1939-1951)/Fiorrello La Guardia(1941-1945), James Farley(1945-1949), Alben W Barkley(1949-1951)[4]
35: Alben W Barkley(1951-1953)

36: Matthew Ridgeway/Storm Thurmond(1953-1961)
37: Walt Disney*/Spiro Agnew(1961-1967)
38: Spiro Agnew(1967-1969)


[1]Hughes wins, and Wilson rises with the support "he would've kept us out of war". Unfortunately for Wilson, his struggle with stroke-like systems bites him in the ass and on a cold Boxing Day(even he deserves Christmas) he has a catastrophic stroke that kills him. Guess who was his VP for name recognition? On another note, Fairbanks is the first non-consecutive VP
[2]Unlike our timeline FDR doesn't run for a third term, though the idea is considered. He benefits from the Roaring 20s, and his successor gets saddled with the Great Depression. Roosevelt-mania shapes the Democratic winner of 1932. Yes, we have a vice president Homer. Really fitting
[3]Al Smith easily won re-election and helped deal with the Great Depression. During 1936 he made a mistake; he demoted his competitor Huey Long to new VP. And an anti-Catholic KKK member decided they couldn't stand a Catholic president. Huey Long is gonna be president during the second Great War(your guess as to whether Germany is to blame or not in this timeline)
[4]Every Man a King! Long rolls from his war efforts, despite starting as an isolationist. The man however becomes more corrupt and power hungry. Like George Wallace, he gets shot and survives yet is paralyzed, by an angry protestor in 1950. Ultimately, when faced with possible conviction and also in pain from his injury, he overdoses on his morphine and is the only president to kill themselves.
[5]Ultimately Barkley doesn't even participate. A war hero, Old Iron Tits himself, secures the election. During his term the 22nd amendment is established, and though he benefits from the same grandfather clause as OTL Truman and is popular he chooses not to exploit it, citing Washington and Cincinnatus along with Long as a counter-example. Ridgeway uses defector Thurmond as his barking dog, but absolutely doesn't want him to succeed him. Instead, Disney becomes president. Sadly, his cancer takes him out and his VP ultimately fails to get renominated(he was also Disney's bad cop to his good cop)

Don't Blame Me, I'm From Minnesota

40: Ronald Reagan>/George HW Bush(1981-1986)[1]
41: George HW Bush/Pat Robertson(1986-1989)

42: Jesse Jackson/Donald Trump(1989-1997)[2]
43: Lamar Alexander/Jack Kemp(1997-2001)
44: Donald Trump/Al Gore(2001-2005)
45: Jeb Bush/Mary Dole(2005-2013)
46: Bernie Sanders/Martin O'Malley(2013-present)[3]

[1]The Iran-Contra Scandal ruins Reagan, and the modern conservative Republican image is dead. This allows the Dems to win in a landslide
[2]First president of color. His VP later makes a comeback on the populist wagon and becomes president, but that kind of cools off in 2004 to Jeb, who wishes to redeem the sins of the father. He has the first female VP
[3]At this point I felt bad for him because he probably won't ever be president IOTL, so let's give the socialist what he wants here
 
George W. Bush as Nixon

43: George W. Bush/Richard "Dick" Cheney (2001-2005!) George W. Bush/John Kasich (2005-2006!)
def 2000. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman and Donald Trump/Jesse Ventura [1]
def 2004. Howard Dean/Al Sharpton [2]

44: John Kasich/none (2006-2007) John Kasich/George Pataki (2007-2009) [3]
45: John Edwards/Evan Bayh (2009-2013) [4]
def 2008. John Kasich/Mike Huckabee [5]
46:
Arnold Schwarzenegger/Rick Perry (2013-2021) [6] [7]
def 2012. John Edwards/Evan Bayh and Gary Johnson/Mike Gravel [8]
def 2016. Evan Bayh/Tulsi Gabbard


Notes:
!=Resigned from office
Red=Republican
Blue=Democratic
Purple=Reform
Yellow=Libertarian

[1]: Obviously, a George Wallace type segregationist campaign wouldn't make sense in 2000, so Trump and Ventura run a Populist-style campaign, instead. In short:
Bush=Nixon, Gore=Humphrey, and Trump=Wallace.
[2]: Howard Dean is the George McGovern analog. He is seen by most of the county as too liberal, and is defeated by Bush in a landslide. Dean only wins DC, his home state of Vermont, Massachusetts and a few smaller states. Even larger blue states like California, Illinois and New York were close in that election.

[3]: John Kasich became Vice President following Dick Cheney's resignation and then President following Bush's. He serves as the Gerald Ford analog since both are moderate Midwestern Republicans. Although he tries his hardest (and even pardons Bush), Kasich is unable from prevent the economy from collapsing in 2008 and that same year, he is defeat (surprisingly narrowly) by John Edwards. As a consolation prize though, Kasich still wins his home state of Ohio.
[4]:John Edwards serves as the Jimmy Carter analog since both of them are Southern Democrats.
[5]: George Pataki declines to run for a full term, so Kasich picks Mike Huckabee to be his new running mate.
[6]: Arnold Schwarzenegger serves as the Ronald Reagan analog since both served as the Governors of California and were both also movie stars.
[7]: Just pretend that the Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment (a.k.a the Hatch Amendment) passes so that this list can work.
[8]: Gary Johnson serves as the John B. Anderson analog.

Thank you to jack_donaghy_is_the_shado for the suggestions for coming up with the running mates I didn't put down! :D
 
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For Kasich, maybe Pataki, Bloomberg, or Romney. His 2008 running mate would probably be a conservative so maybe Huckabee or Sam Brownback.

For Edwards' veep: Mark Dayton, Tom Vilsack, Evan Bayh

Ahnold's veep: Robert Gates, Condoleeza Rice, Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Stanley McChrystal, David Petraeus, Joe Scarborough

Let's go with Bayh as the Dem's nominee in 2016 and following the example of the '84 convention: Kirsten Gillibrand, Tammy Baldwin, Zephyr Teachout, Tulsi Gabbard, Jared Polis.

I guess "grope gate" or his son born out of wedlock could take the place of Iran Contra.
 
For Kasich, maybe Pataki, Bloomberg, or Romney. His 2008 running mate would probably be a conservative so maybe Huckabee or Sam Brownback.

For Edwards' veep: Mark Dayton, Tom Vilsack, Evan Bayh

Ahnold's veep: Robert Gates, Condoleeza Rice, Rick Perry, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Stanley McChrystal, David Petraeus, Joe Scarborough

Let's go with Bayh as the Dem's nominee in 2016 and following the example of the '84 convention: Kirsten Gillibrand, Tammy Baldwin, Zephyr Teachout, Tulsi Gabbard, Jared Polis.

I guess "grope gate" or his son born out of wedlock could take the place of Iran Contra.

Thanks for the suggestions for running mates dude! I appreciate that very much. I credited you as well. By the way, who do you think should be the John Anderson analog and his/her running mate?
 
I had originally posted this some time ago in the Current Politics thread in Chat, but seeing as it received little exposure and isn't exactly political-just an interpretation of sorts-I'm reposting it here. I'm curious to see which world/term size you prefer. Terms were apportioned to Presidents based on who spent the most time in it.

OTL Presidents of the United States realigned to five-year terms
1789-1794: George Washington
1794-1799: George Washington
1799-1804: Thomas Jefferson
1804-1809: Thomas Jefferson
1809-1814: James Madison
1814-1819: James Madison
1819-1824: James Monroe
1824-1829: John Q. Adams
1829-1834: Andrew Jackson
1834-1839: Andrew Jackson
1839-1841: William Harrison ✝
1841-1844: John Tyler
1844-1849: James Polk
1849-1850: Zachary Taylor ✝
1850-1854: Millard Fillmore
1854-1859: Franklin Pierce
1859-1864: Abraham Lincoln
1864-1865: Abraham Lincoln ✞
1865-1869: Andrew Johnson
1869-1874: Ulysses Grant
1874-1879: Ulysses Grant
1879-1881: James Garfield ✞
1881-1884: Chester Arthur
1884-1889: Grover Cleveland
1889-1894: Benjamin Harrison
1894-1899: Grover Cleveland
1899-1901: William McKinley ✞
1901-1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1904-1909: Theodore Roosevelt
1909-1914: William Taft
1914-1919: Woodrow Wilson
1919-1923: Warren Harding ✝
1923-1924: Calvin Coolidge
1924-1929: Calvin Coolidge
1929-1934: Herbert Hoover
1934-1939: Franklin Roosevelt
1939-1944: Franklin Roosevelt
1944-1945: Franklin Roosevelt ✝
1945-1949: Harry Truman
1949-1954: Harry Truman
1954-1959: Dwight Eisenhower
1959-1963: John Kennedy ✞
1963-1964: Lyndon Johnson
1964-1969: Lyndon Johnson
1969-1974: Richard Nixon
1974-1974: Richard Nixon ✦
1974-1979: Gerald Ford
1979-1984: Ronald Reagan
1984-1989: Ronald Reagan
1989-1994: George H.W. Bush
1994-1999: Bill Clinton
1999-2004: George W. Bush
2004-2009: George W. Bush
2009-2014: Barack Obama
2014-2019: Barack Obama
(45 Elections ITTL)
(57 Elections IOTL)

OTL Presidents of the United States realigned to six-year terms
1789-1795: George Washington
1795-1801: John Adams
1801-1807: Thomas Jefferson
1807-1813: James Madison
1813-1819: James Madison
1819-1825: James Monroe
1825-1831: John Q. Adams
1831-1837: Andrew Jackson
1837-1843: Martin Van Buren
1843-1849: James Polk
1849-1850: Zachary Taylor ✝
1850-1855: Millard Fillmore
1855-1861: James Buchanan
1861-1865: Abraham Lincoln ✞
1865-1867: Hannibal Hamlin
1867-1873: Ulysses Grant
1873-1879: Ulysses Grant
1879-1881: James Garfield ✞
1881-1885: Chester Arthur
1885-1891: Grover Cleveland
1891-1897: Grover Cleveland
1897-1901: William McKinley ✞
1901-1903: Theodore Roosevelt
1903-1909: Theodore Roosevelt
1909-1915: William Taft
1915-1921: Woodrow Wilson
1921-1923: Warren Harding ✝
1923-1927: Calvin Coolidge
1927-1933: Herbert Hoover
1933-1939: Franklin Roosevelt
1939-1945: Franklin Roosevelt
1945-1945: Franklin Roosevelt ✝
1945-1951: Harry Truman
1951-1957: Dwight Eisenhower
1957-1963: Dwight Eisenhower
1963-1963: John F. Kennedy ✞
1963-1969: Lyndon Johnson
1969-1974: Richard Nixon ✦
1974-1975: Gerald Ford
1975-1981: Jimmy Carter
1981-1987: Ronald Reagan
1987-1993: George H.W. Bush
1993-1999: Bill Clinton
1999-2005: George W. Bush
2005-2011: George W. Bush
2011-2017: Barack Obama
2017-2023: Donald Trump
(38 Elections ITTL)
(57 Elections IOTL)

OTL Presidents of the United States realigned to seven-year terms
1789-1796: George Washington
1796-1803: John Adams
1803-1810: Thomas Jefferson
1810-1817: James Madison
1817-1824: James Monroe
1824-1831: John Q. Adams
1831-1838: Andrew Jackson
1838-1841: William Harrison ✝
1841-1845: John Tyler
1845-1852: James Polk
1852-1859: Franklin Pierce
1859-1865: Abraham Lincoln ✞
1865-1866: Hannibal Hamlin
1866-1873: Ulysses Grant
1873-1880: Ulysses Grant
1880-1881: James Garfield ✞
1881-1887: Chester Arthur
1887-1894: Benjamin Harrison
1894-1901: William McKinley
1901-1901: William McKinley ✞
1901-1908: Theodore Roosevelt
1908-1915: William Taft
1915-1922: Woodrow Wilson
1922-1923: Warren Harding ✝
1923-1929: Calvin Coolidge
1929-1936: Herbert Hoover
1936-1943: Franklin Roosevelt
1943-1945: Franklin Roosevelt
1945-1945: Franklin Roosevelt ✝
1945-1950: Harry Truman
1950-1957: Dwight Eisenhower
1957-1963: John Kennedy ✞
1963-1964: Lyndon Johnson
1964-1971: Lyndon Johnson
1971-1974: Richard Nixon ✦
1974-1978: Gerald Ford
1978-1985: Ronald Reagan
1985-1992: George H.W. Bush
1992-1999: Bill Clinton
1999-2006: George W. Bush
2006-2013: Barack Obama
2013-2020: Barack Obama
(32 Elections ITTL)
(57 Elections IOTL)

OTL Presidents of the United States realigned to three-year terms
1789-1792: George Washington
1792-1795: George Washington
1795-1798: John Adams
1798-1801: John Adams
1801-1804: Thomas Jefferson
1804-1807: Thomas Jefferson
1807-1810: Thomas Jefferson
1810-1813: James Madison
1813-1816: James Madison
1816-1819: James Monroe
1819-1822: James Monroe
1822-1825: James Monroe
1825-1828: John Q. Adams
1828-1831: Andrew Jackson
1831-1834: Andrew Jackson
1834-1837: Andrew Jackson
1837-1840: Martin Van Buren
1840-1841: William Harrison ✝
1841-1843: John Tyler
1843-1846: John Tyler
1846-1849: James Polk
1849-1850: Zachary Taylor ✝
1850-1852: Millard Fillmore
1852-1855: Millard Fillmore
1855-1858: Franklin Pierce
1858-1861: James Buchanan
1861-1864: Abraham Lincoln
1864-1865: Abraham Lincoln ✞
1865-1867: Andrew Johnson
1867-1870: Ulysses Grant
1870-1873: Ulysses Grant
1873-1876: Ulysses Grant
1876-1879: Rutherford Hayes
1879-1882: Rutherford Hayes
1882-1885: Chester Arthur
1885-1888: Grover Cleveland
1888-1891: Benjamin Harrison
1891-1894: Benjamin Harrison
1894-1897: Grover Cleveland
1897-1900: William McKinley
1900-1901: William McKinley ✞
1901-1903: Theodore Roosevelt
1903-1906: Theodore Roosevelt
1906-1909: Theodore Roosevelt
1909-1912: William Taft
1912-1915: Woodrow Wilson
1915-1918: Woodrow Wilson
1918-1921: Woodrow Wilson
1921-1923: Warren Harding ✝
1923-1924: Calvin Coolidge
1924-1927: Calvin Coolidge
1927-1930: Calvin Coolidge
1930-1933: Herbert Hoover
1933-1936: Franklin Roosevelt
1936-1939: Franklin Roosevelt
1939-1942: Franklin Roosevelt
1942-1945: Franklin Roosevelt ✝
1945-1948: Harry Truman
1948-1951: Harry Truman
1951-1954: Harry Truman
1954-1957: Dwight Eisenhower
1957-1960: Dwight Eisenhower
1960-1963: John Kennedy
1963-1963: John Kennedy ✞
1963-1966: Lyndon Johnson
1966-1969: Lyndon Johnson
1969-1972: Richard Nixon
1972-1974: Richard Nixon ✦
1974-1975: Gerald Ford
1975-1978: Gerald Ford
1978-1981: Jimmy Carter
1981-1984: Ronald Reagan
1984-1987: Ronald Reagan
1987-1990: Ronald Reagan
1990-1993: George H.W. Bush
1993-1996: Bill Clinton
1996-1999: Bill Clinton
1999-2002: Bill Clinton
2002-2005: George W. Bush
2005-2008: George W. Bush
2008-2011: Barack Obama
2011-2014: Barack Obama
2014-2017: Barack Obama
2017-2020: Donald Trump
(76 Elections ITTL)
(57 Elections IOTL)
 
Thanks for the suggestions for running mates dude! I appreciate that very much. I credited you as well. By the way, who do you think should be the John Anderson analog and his/her running mate?

Let's see Schwarzenegger is more of a moderate as opposed to Reagan, so instead of a Rockefeller Republican, maybe a libertarian like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul or someone more right wing like Michelle Bachmann or Thaddeus Mccotter.

As for a running mate: Dennis Kucinich, Gray Davis, Buddy Roemer, Rocky Andersen, Mike Gravel , or Mark Warner.

Of course the National Unity party of John Anderson and the America Elects/ Justice Party movements were similar.
 
First Texas Republic:
1 Sam Houston 1836-1838 Independent
2 Mirabeau Lamar 1838-1841 Independent
3 Sam Houston 1841-1844 Independent
4 Edward Burleson 1844-1847 Independent
5 Sam Houston 1847-1850 Independent
6 Mirabeau Lamar 1850-1853 Independent
7 Sam Houston 1853-1856 Independent
8 Mirabeau Lamar 1856-1859 Independent

People's Republic of Texas:
1 Karl Marx 1859-1883 Communist
2 Adolph Douai 1883-1888 Communist
3 James Stephen "Big Jim" Hogg 1888-1905 Communist-Farmer's Alliance
4 Goyaale/Geronimo 1905-1909 CFA

Second Republic of Texas:
1 Morris Sheppard 1909-1930 Populist Prohibitionism
2 Jane McCallum 1930-1948 CFA
3 Oveta Culp Hobby 1948-1969 PP

4 Sarah Waddigton 1970-1974 CFA
5
Robert George "Bobby" Seale 1974-1976 CFA
6 William Pettus Hobby Jr 1976-1982 PP
7 Barbara Jordan 1982-1988 CFA
8 Mario Guerra Obledo 1988-1994 CFA
9 Barbara Lee 1994-2003 CFA
10 Jim Hightower 2003-2009 CFA

11 Susana Martinez 2009-2017 PP
12 Matt Gonzales 2017-... CFA
 

Ethan P

Banned
Kerry 2004 (WITH A TWIST)
Speakers of the House:
2005-2007: Dennis Hastert (R-Illinois)
(retired)
2007-2011: Roy Blunt (R-Missouri) (lost majority in Blue Revolution of 2010; resigned)
2011-2015: Steny Hoyer (D-Maryland) (lost primary)
2015-2017: Mark Sanford (R-South Carolina) (lost majority)
2017-2021: Ron Kind (D-Wisconsin) (lost primary)
2021-2027: Justin Amash (R-Michigan) (retired)
2027-now: Ben McAdams (D-Utah)
Senate Majority Leaders:
2005-2009: Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota)
(lost majority)
2009-2011: Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) (lost majority in Blue Revolution of 2010)
2011-2017: Harry Reid (D-Nevada) (retired)
2017-2021: Maria Cantwell (D-Washington) (lost majority)
2021-2025: Josh Romney (R-Utah) (lost majority)
2025-now: Deborah K. Ross (D-North Carolina)
 
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England becomes an absolute monarchy:

Emperors of Greater England:

Richard III, 1483-1501
Richard IV, 1501-1514
Matilda II, 1514-1539
William III, 1539-1582
Edward VII, 1582-1621
Christopher, 1621-1640
Richard V, 1640-1663
Mary I, 1663-1711
Edward VIII, 1711-1714
Edward IX, 1714-1750
Richard VI, 1750-1758
Mary II, 1758-1799
David I, 1799-1834
David II, 1834-1877
David III, 1877-1895
Richard VII, 1895-1916
William IV, 1916-1953
Mary III, 1953-2014
David IV, 2014-Present

Chancellors of England, 1920-Present

Stanley Baldwin, 1924-1947
Winston Churchill, 1947-1964
Quentin Hogg, 1964-1998
Jefferson Hague, 1998-Present
 

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And a Follow-Up List Related to My Last:
2005-2009: Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
2004: def. incumbemts

2008-2013: Senator George Allen (R-VA)/Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)
2008: def. incumbents

2013-2021: Governor Ted Strickland (D-OH)/Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
2012: def. incumbents

2016: def. Senator Greg Orman (R-KS)/Senator Brian Sandoval (R-NV), Representative Steve King (CR-IO)/Former Senator Rick Santorum (CR-PA)
2021-2029: Governor Jeff Flake (R-AZ)/Senator John Sununu (R-NH)
2020: def. VP Bill Nelson (D-FL)/Senator Jack Conway (D-KY), Former Governor Howard Dean (I-VT)/various

2024: def. Senator Joseph Garcia (D-CO)/Governor Vincent Sheheen (D-SC)
2029-now: Senator Stacey Evans (D-GA)/Governor
Michelle De La Isla (D-KS)
2028: def. Senator George P. Bush (R-TX)/Former Governor Diane Black (R-TN)
 
Well and truly glorious to see you post this here. I'd like to clarify some things about this list, however: what happened to the Armenian Revolutionary Federation, and does the Second Armenian Republic have a head of state?
Armenian Revolutionary Federation divides itself between the more Non-Communist/Nationalistic elements joining the ADP and APP whilst the ones more committed to Socialism/Social Democracy join the ASDLP. Of course there is overlap more often than not, with some ADP members proposing Socialist ideas whilst there ASDLP members who are Nationalistic. Also I'm thinking the Second Armenian Republic has a President but the Prime Minister is the one with much of the power and the President is similar to Ireland's one and is mainly there to sign stuff.
 
Let's see Schwarzenegger is more of a moderate as opposed to Reagan, so instead of a Rockefeller Republican, maybe a libertarian like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul or someone more right wing like Michelle Bachmann or Thaddeus Mccotter.

As for a running mate: Dennis Kucinich, Gray Davis, Buddy Roemer, Rocky Andersen, Mike Gravel , or Mark Warner.

Of course the National Unity party of John Anderson and the America Elects/ Justice Party movements were similar.

I went with Gary Johnson. Thanks for the suggestions.
 
26 Massachusetts Senator Henry Cabot Lodge Sr/Iowa Rapresentative Jonathan Dolliver 1901-1909 (Republican)
27 Secretary of State Theodore Roosevelt from New York/ Ambassador to UK William Howard Taft from Ohio 1909-1917
28 Secretary of State Elihu Root from New York/ Ohio Senator Warren Gamael Harding 1917-1923/ Vacant 1923-1925

29 Secretary of State Charles Evans Hughes from New York/ Mississippi Senator John Sharp Williams 1925-1929 (National Progressive)
30 General John Pershing from Missouri/ Vicepresident John Sharp Williams from Mississippi 1929-1932/ Vacant 1932-1933/ Ambassador to UK Franklin Delano Roosevelt from New York 1933-1937
31 Vicepresident Franklin Delano Roosevelt from New York/ Virginia Senator Carter Glass 1937-1941

32 General Smedley Butler from Pennsylvania/ Indiana Senator James Eli Watson 1941 (Country Alliance)
33 Vicepresident James Eli Watson/ Vacant 1941-1945

34 House Speaker John Nance Garner from Texas/ Philadelphia Mayor William Christian Bullit Jr 1945-1949
35 General George Patton from California/ New York Governor Thomas Edmund Dewey 1949-1950
36 Vicepresident Thomas Edmund Dewey/ Vacant 1950-1953

37 Maryland Senator Millard Tydings/ Illinois Governor Adlai Stevenson 1953-1957
38 Secretary of State George Aiken from Vermont/ Arkansas Governor Orval Faubus 1957-1961

39 Massachusetts Senator John Fitzgerald Kennedy/ Michigan Senator Gerhard Mennen Williams 1961-1965 (Liberal)/ Texas Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson 1965
40 Vicepresident Lyndon Baines Johnson/ Vacant 1965-1969

41 General James Maurice Gavin from New York/ House Speaker Wilbur Mills from Arkansas 1969-1977
42 Illinois Governor Otto Kerner/ New York Rapresent Peter Rodino 1977-1981
43 Arizona Rapresent Morris Udall/ New York Governor Ed Koch 1981
44 Vicepresident Ed Koch/ Vacant 1981-1985

45 Kansas Senator Robert Dole/ New Jersey Senator Pete du Pont 1985-1989
46 Ohio Senator John Glenn/ Arkansas Governir William Jefferson Clinton 1989-1993
47 Former President Robert Dole from Kansas/ New York Rapresentative Jack Kemp 1993-1997
48 Ohio Senator George Voinovich/ Delawere Senator Joseph Biden III 1997-2001
 
The Never Ending Clinton and Bush Dynasties

And no, this does not count as "Current Politics" since the POD happens in 2008 and there's no Trump at all! However, if it does still count, I apologize in advance.

40: Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush (1981-1989) [1] [2]
def 1980. Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale and John B. Anderson/Patrick Lucey
def 1984. Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro

41: George H. W. Bush/Dan Quayle (1989-1993) [2]
def 1988. Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
42: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (1993-2001) [2]
def 1992. George H. W. Bush/Dan Quayle and Ross Perot/James Stockdale
def 1996. Bob Dole/Jack Kemp and Ross Perot/Pat Choate

43: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (2001-2009) [2]
def 2000. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
def 2004. John Kerry/John Edwards

44: Hillary Clinton/Barrack Obama (2009-2017)
def 2008. John McCain/Sarah Palin
def 2012. Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan

45: Jeb Bush/John Kasich (2017-2025)
def 2016. Barrack Obama/Martin O'Malley
def 2020. Bernie Sanders/Tulsi Gabberd

46:Chelsea Clinton/Tammy Duckworth (2025-2033)
def 2024. John Kasich/Marco Rubio
def 2028. Tom Cotton/
Tucker Carlson
47: George P. Bush/Niki Haley
def 2032. Democratic candidate
def 2036. Democratic candidate


Notes:
Red=Republican
Blue=Democratic
Gray=Independent
Purple=Reform

[1]: Reagan is the last president not to be either a member of either the Clinton or Bush families.
[2]: Presidency same as in reality.
 
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