List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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1979-1984 Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative)
1979 def. Pierre Trudeau (Liberal) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat) Fabien Roy (Social Credit)
1980 def. Pierre Trudeau (Liberal) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat) Fabien Roy (Social Credit)
1984-1988 Jean Chrétien (Liberal-New Democrat Coalition)
1984 def. Cyril W. Doody (Progressive Conservative) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat)
1988-1993 Jean Chrétien (Liberal)
1988 def. Jean Charest (Progressive Conservative) Dave Barrett (New Democrat) Preston Manning (Reform)
1993-1997 John Nunziata (Liberal-New Democrat Coalition)
1993 def. Preston Manning (Reform) Dave Barrett (New Democrat) Garth Turner (Progressive Conservative)
1997-2011 Preston Manning (Reform-Progressive Conservative Coalition)
1997 def. John Nunziata (Liberal) Alexa McDonough (New Democrat) Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative)
2004 def. Sheila Copps (Liberal) Lorn Nystrome (New Democrat) Jim Prentice (Progressive Conservative)
2008 def. Jack Layton (New Democrat) Stéphane Dion (Liberal) Tony Clement (Progressive Conservative)
2011-2019 Jack Layton (New Democrat-Liberal Coalition)
2011 def. Steven Harper (Conservative Alliance) Micheal Ignatieff (Liberal)
2015 def. Steven Harper (Conservative Alliance) Marc Garneau (Liberal)
2019-0000 Jagmeet Singh (Labour)
2019 def. Maxime Bernier (Conservative Alliance) Marc Garneau (Liberal-Progressive)
1979-1984 Joe Clark (Progressive Conservative)
1979 def. Pierre Trudeau (Liberal) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat) Fabien Roy (Social Credit)
1980 def. Pierre Trudeau (Liberal) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat) Fabien Roy (Social Credit)
1984-1988 Jean Chrétien (Liberal-New Democrat Coalition)
1984 def. Cyril W. Doody (Progressive Conservative) Ed Broadbent (New Democrat)
1988-1993 Jean Chrétien (Liberal)
1988 def. Jean Charest (Progressive Conservative) Dave Barrett (New Democrat) Preston Manning (Reform)
1993-1997 John Nunziata (Liberal-New Democrat Coalition)
1993 def. Preston Manning (Reform) Dave Barrett (New Democrat) Garth Turner (Progressive Conservative)
1997-2011 Preston Manning (Reform-Progressive Conservative Coalition)
1997 def. John Nunziata (Liberal) Alexa McDonough (New Democrat) Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative)
2004 def. Sheila Copps (Liberal) Lorn Nystrome (New Democrat) Jim Prentice (Progressive Conservative)
2008 def. Jack Layton (New Democrat) Stéphane Dion (Liberal) Tony Clement (Progressive Conservative)
2011-2019 Jack Layton (New Democrat-Liberal Coalition)
2011 def. Steven Harper (Conservative Alliance) Micheal Ignatieff (Liberal)
2015 def. Steven Harper (Conservative Alliance) Marc Garneau (Liberal)
2019-0000 Jagmeet Singh (Labour)
2019 def. Maxime Bernier (Conservative Alliance) Marc Garneau (Liberal-Progressive)
History of the Presidents of the United States of America
Back then i made a list of presidents of Indonesia that took place in my comicbook universe.
Now, Its America's turn, starting from the POD.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat)-John Nance Garner (Democrat) (1933)
ASSASSINATION OF JOSEPH ZANGARA, LEADING TO A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY THAT FRAMED THE COMMUNIST PARTY INTO NEAR DISSOLVEMENT
John Nance Garner (Democrat)-Henry Thomas Rainey (Democrat) (1933-1937)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Upton Beall Sinclair Jr. (New Union) (1937-1941)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Upton Beall Sinclair Jr. (New Union) (1941-1945)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Joseph Warren Stillwell (New Union) (1945-1948)
DEATH OF GENERAL STILLWELL AFTER A FAILED SURGERY.
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Norman Mattoon Thomas (Socialist Party of America) (1949)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Thomas Edmund Dewey (New Union) (1949-1953)
Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (Democrat)-Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (Democrat) (1953-1957)
Norman Matoon Thomas (Socialist Party of America)-Asa Phillip Randolph (Socialist Party of America) (1957-1961)
"AGE OF UNRESTS", WHERE CONSERVATISM RUNS HIGH IN AMERICA FOLLOWING THE TURBULENT PRESIDENCY OF NORMAN THOMAS.
Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican)-Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican) (1961-1965)
Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican)-Barry Morris Goldwater (Republican) (1965-1969)
Harold Edward Stassen (Republican)-Winthrop Rockefeller (Republican) (1969-1973)
Harold Edward Stassen (Republican)-Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (1973-1977)
MASSIVE ROCKEFELLER CORRUPTION SCANDAL ERUPTS, REPUBLICANS HIT HARD. LEADING TO A FUTURE "REFORMATION" IN THE 2000s.
Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat)-Patsy Matsu Takemoto Mink (Democrat) (1977-1981)
James Leonard Farmer Jr (New Union)-Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union) (1981-1983)
ASSASSINATION OF JAMES LEONARD FARMER JR BY KKK SYMPATHIZERS.
Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union)-Whitney Moore Young Jr. (New Union) (1984-1985)
Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union)-Whitney Moore Young Jr. (New Union) (1985-1989)
DUE TO MCCARTHY'S ANTI FASCIST LAWS AND CRUSADES THAT HAVE BREACHED VARIOUS CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS, A LAW THAT FORBIDS ONE TO RAN MORE THAN TWO TERMS IS PASSED.
Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat)-Michael Stanley Dukakis (Democrat) (1989-1993)
William Steele Sessions (Republican)-Robert Heron Bork (Republican) (1993-1997)
George W. Bush Sr. (Republican)-John Sidney McCain III (Republican) (1997-2001)
Jesse Louis Jackson Sr. (New Union)-Dennis John Kuchinich (New Union) (2001-2005)
Sarah Louise Palin (Republican)-Willard Mitt Romney (Republican) (2005-2009)
John Ellis Bush (Republican)-Benjamin Solomon Carson Sr. (Republican) (2009-2013)
Lincoln Davenport Chaffee (Democrat)-Elizabeth Ann Warren (Democrat) (2013-2017)
Lincoln Davenport Chafeee (Democrat)-Elizabeth Ann Warren (Democrat) (2017-Now)
Back then i made a list of presidents of Indonesia that took place in my comicbook universe.
Now, Its America's turn, starting from the POD.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democrat)-John Nance Garner (Democrat) (1933)
ASSASSINATION OF JOSEPH ZANGARA, LEADING TO A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY THAT FRAMED THE COMMUNIST PARTY INTO NEAR DISSOLVEMENT
John Nance Garner (Democrat)-Henry Thomas Rainey (Democrat) (1933-1937)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Upton Beall Sinclair Jr. (New Union) (1937-1941)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Upton Beall Sinclair Jr. (New Union) (1941-1945)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Joseph Warren Stillwell (New Union) (1945-1948)
DEATH OF GENERAL STILLWELL AFTER A FAILED SURGERY.
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Norman Mattoon Thomas (Socialist Party of America) (1949)
Huey Pierce Long Jr. (New Union)-Thomas Edmund Dewey (New Union) (1949-1953)
Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (Democrat)-Hubert Horatio Humphrey Jr. (Democrat) (1953-1957)
Norman Matoon Thomas (Socialist Party of America)-Asa Phillip Randolph (Socialist Party of America) (1957-1961)
"AGE OF UNRESTS", WHERE CONSERVATISM RUNS HIGH IN AMERICA FOLLOWING THE TURBULENT PRESIDENCY OF NORMAN THOMAS.
Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican)-Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican) (1961-1965)
Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican)-Barry Morris Goldwater (Republican) (1965-1969)
Harold Edward Stassen (Republican)-Winthrop Rockefeller (Republican) (1969-1973)
Harold Edward Stassen (Republican)-Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican) (1973-1977)
MASSIVE ROCKEFELLER CORRUPTION SCANDAL ERUPTS, REPUBLICANS HIT HARD. LEADING TO A FUTURE "REFORMATION" IN THE 2000s.
Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat)-Patsy Matsu Takemoto Mink (Democrat) (1977-1981)
James Leonard Farmer Jr (New Union)-Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union) (1981-1983)
ASSASSINATION OF JAMES LEONARD FARMER JR BY KKK SYMPATHIZERS.
Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union)-Whitney Moore Young Jr. (New Union) (1984-1985)
Eugene Joseph McCarthy (New Union)-Whitney Moore Young Jr. (New Union) (1985-1989)
DUE TO MCCARTHY'S ANTI FASCIST LAWS AND CRUSADES THAT HAVE BREACHED VARIOUS CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS, A LAW THAT FORBIDS ONE TO RAN MORE THAN TWO TERMS IS PASSED.
Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat)-Michael Stanley Dukakis (Democrat) (1989-1993)
William Steele Sessions (Republican)-Robert Heron Bork (Republican) (1993-1997)
George W. Bush Sr. (Republican)-John Sidney McCain III (Republican) (1997-2001)
Jesse Louis Jackson Sr. (New Union)-Dennis John Kuchinich (New Union) (2001-2005)
Sarah Louise Palin (Republican)-Willard Mitt Romney (Republican) (2005-2009)
John Ellis Bush (Republican)-Benjamin Solomon Carson Sr. (Republican) (2009-2013)
Lincoln Davenport Chaffee (Democrat)-Elizabeth Ann Warren (Democrat) (2013-2017)
Lincoln Davenport Chafeee (Democrat)-Elizabeth Ann Warren (Democrat) (2017-Now)
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Dukakis, I dunno, DOES HIS GODDAMN JOB?
1989-1997: Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts/Senator John Glenn of Ohio (Democratic)
1988: def. VP George Bush of Texas/Fmr. Senator Paul Laxalt of Nevada (Republican)
1992: def. Businessman Donald Trump of New York/Senator Danforth Quayle of Indiana (Republican), Fmr. Senator Bob Dole of Kansas/Businessman Ross Perot of Texas (Citizen's)
1997-2001: House Speaker Dick Gephardt of Missouri/Governor Russ Feingold of Wisconsin (Democratic)
1996: def. Representative Jack Kemp of New York/Governor John Thune of South Dakota [replaces Ohio Senator Bob Taft] (Republican)
2001-2009: Governor John McCain of Arizona/Representative Jeb Bush of Florida (Republican)
2000: def. incumbents
2004: def. Governor Chuck Schumer of New York/Senate Majority Leader Evan Bayh of Indiana (Democratic)
2009-2014: Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota/Former Governor John Kerry of Massachusetts (dies in office)
2008: def. AG Fred Thompson of Tennessee/Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney of Michigan
2012: def. Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania/Fmr. Governor Jim Gilmore of Virginia
2014-now: VP John Kerry of Massachusetts/Governor Barack Obama of Illinois
2016: def. Governor Charlie Crist of Florida/Former Senator John Kasich of Ohio (Republican)
2020: VP Barack Obama of Illinois/Governor Kirsten Gillibrand of New York (Democratic) vs Senator Chris Sununu of New Hampshire/House Speaker Mac Thornberry of Texas
1989-1997: Governor Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts/Senator John Glenn of Ohio (Democratic)
1988: def. VP George Bush of Texas/Fmr. Senator Paul Laxalt of Nevada (Republican)
1992: def. Businessman Donald Trump of New York/Senator Danforth Quayle of Indiana (Republican), Fmr. Senator Bob Dole of Kansas/Businessman Ross Perot of Texas (Citizen's)
1997-2001: House Speaker Dick Gephardt of Missouri/Governor Russ Feingold of Wisconsin (Democratic)
1996: def. Representative Jack Kemp of New York/Governor John Thune of South Dakota [replaces Ohio Senator Bob Taft] (Republican)
2001-2009: Governor John McCain of Arizona/Representative Jeb Bush of Florida (Republican)
2000: def. incumbents
2004: def. Governor Chuck Schumer of New York/Senate Majority Leader Evan Bayh of Indiana (Democratic)
2009-2014: Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota/Former Governor John Kerry of Massachusetts (dies in office)
2008: def. AG Fred Thompson of Tennessee/Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney of Michigan
2012: def. Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania/Fmr. Governor Jim Gilmore of Virginia
2014-now: VP John Kerry of Massachusetts/Governor Barack Obama of Illinois
2016: def. Governor Charlie Crist of Florida/Former Senator John Kasich of Ohio (Republican)
2020: VP Barack Obama of Illinois/Governor Kirsten Gillibrand of New York (Democratic) vs Senator Chris Sununu of New Hampshire/House Speaker Mac Thornberry of Texas
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Ethan P
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Based on a series of infoboxes from somewhere...
Kerry 2004 but with more butterflies
2005-2009: Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts/Senator John Edwards of North Carolina
2004: def. incumbents
2009-2013: Fmr Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas/Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota
2008: def. incumbent/SecDef Wesley Clark of Oklahoma
2013-2021: Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Governor Steve Beshear of Kentucky
2012: def. incumbents
2016: def. Fmr Governor Jeb Bush of Florida/Senator George Allen of Virginia
2021-: SecState John Edwards of North Carolina/Governor Barack Obama of Illinois
2020: def. Fmr Governor Rick Snyder of Michigan/House Speaker Roy Blunt of Missouri
Kerry 2004 but with more butterflies
2005-2009: Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts/Senator John Edwards of North Carolina
2004: def. incumbents
2009-2013: Fmr Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas/Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota
2008: def. incumbent/SecDef Wesley Clark of Oklahoma
2013-2021: Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Governor Steve Beshear of Kentucky
2012: def. incumbents
2016: def. Fmr Governor Jeb Bush of Florida/Senator George Allen of Virginia
2021-: SecState John Edwards of North Carolina/Governor Barack Obama of Illinois
2020: def. Fmr Governor Rick Snyder of Michigan/House Speaker Roy Blunt of Missouri
Is it the end of the World, as we know it?
43 Texas Governor George Walkee Bush/ Former Secretary of Defense Richard "Dick" Cheney 2001-2002 (Republican)
44 Secretary of Interior Gale Norton from Colorado/ Vacant 2002-2003/ General Wesley Clark from Arkansas 2003 (Democratic)
Acting Vicepresident Wesley Clark from Arkansas 2003-2005
45 Vicepresident Wesley Clark from Arkansas/ New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani 2005-2009 (Victory)
46 Senator Eliot Spitzer from New York (Progressive)/ Rapresentative Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota (Tea Party) 2009-2010
47 Vicepresident Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota/ Vacant 2010-2013
48 Alaska Governor Sarah Palin/ Former Homeland Security Secretary Oliver North from Virginia 2013-2017
Acting Speaker of the House Joe Sestak from Pennsylvania (Unity) 2017-2018
49 Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg/ Admiral Mike Mullen from Ohio (Independent) 2018-...
43 Texas Governor George Walkee Bush/ Former Secretary of Defense Richard "Dick" Cheney 2001-2002 (Republican)
44 Secretary of Interior Gale Norton from Colorado/ Vacant 2002-2003/ General Wesley Clark from Arkansas 2003 (Democratic)
Acting Vicepresident Wesley Clark from Arkansas 2003-2005
45 Vicepresident Wesley Clark from Arkansas/ New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani 2005-2009 (Victory)
46 Senator Eliot Spitzer from New York (Progressive)/ Rapresentative Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota (Tea Party) 2009-2010
47 Vicepresident Michelle Bachmann from Minnesota/ Vacant 2010-2013
48 Alaska Governor Sarah Palin/ Former Homeland Security Secretary Oliver North from Virginia 2013-2017
Acting Speaker of the House Joe Sestak from Pennsylvania (Unity) 2017-2018
49 Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg/ Admiral Mike Mullen from Ohio (Independent) 2018-...
The 1860 presidential election (or, as some modern-day history teachers refer to it, The Great Stress-Inducer) was the 19th quadrennial presidential election held on Tuesday, November 6, 1860. It was also possibly the most convoluted election in American history and the catalyst for secession and voting lasted into February of 1861. Had Lincoln done a little better, and Douglas and Breckinridge done a little worse, it is thoroughly conceivable Lincoln and the Republican Party might have won - Indiana, Illinois, California and Oregon were close enough to potentially swing to Lincoln's camp. Alas it was not to be. Instead, it ended like the 1824 election with a deadlocked Electoral College and no clear winner. Lincoln, however, came closest with 149 electoral votes with 152 needed to win. And thus, like 1824, the election was sent to the House of Representatives and the 36th United States Congress.
The Republicans controlled fifteen state delegations. Breckinridge Democrats controlled thirteen, Douglas Democrats the state of Illinois, while Bell supporters controlled Tennessee. Three states (Kentucky, Maryland, and North Carolina) were equally divided between Breckinridge Democrats and Bell supporters. As Bell had the least number of votes and could not run for the House election, he urged his states to vote for Breckinridge. However, as they were the belles of the ball and knew Breckinridge needed them to have a majority, they played hard to get. Douglas, despite declaring he would never accept election by the House if it indeed went there, ran and campaigned hard in the House to be the compromise candidate.
It lasted seventeen ballots. Seventeen excruciating, painful ballots. All eyes were on Washington DC. Tempers flared, fights were had between Congressmen, some of them even cried, and even the British and French ambassadors were concerned the United States might descend into anarchy should a president not be soon chosen as American tempers flared. They would regret becoming Cassandra in that moment because, even though a president was chosen, anarchy still reigned.
Eventually, on February 28th, 1861, the House finally chose a President. Controlling 17 State delegations, the bare necessity for a majority among the States, former Vice President John C. Breckinridge became the 16th President of the United States. Outraged that they had been cheated of the election, the abolitionist Republican Party seethed and vowed to win again in 1864. Slave Power would not win. However, the Supreme Court ruled later that year - Lemmon v. New York - that slave-owners could bring their slaves into free states for transit "or sojourn". However, Chief Justice Roger Taney went a step further like he did in Dred Scott and declared further that it was unconstitutional for state laws to abolish slavery.
The abolitionist cause reached a fever pitch. Slave Power had stolen from them again.
No more.
And so the first Northern state left the Union...
Note: New Jersey's split electoral votes is not depicted. 4 EVs went to Lincoln, 3 EVs went to Douglas.
Abraham Lincoln (Republican): 149 EVs
John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic): 94 EVs
Stephen A. Douglas ('Northern' Democratic): 36 EVs
John Bell (Constitutional Union): 24 EVs
Presidents of the United States of America
14. 1853-1857: Franklin Pierce (Democratic - New Hampshire)
15. 1857-1861: James Buchanan (Democratic - Pennsylvania)
16. 1861-0000: John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic - Kentucky)
Start of the American Civil War
The Republicans controlled fifteen state delegations. Breckinridge Democrats controlled thirteen, Douglas Democrats the state of Illinois, while Bell supporters controlled Tennessee. Three states (Kentucky, Maryland, and North Carolina) were equally divided between Breckinridge Democrats and Bell supporters. As Bell had the least number of votes and could not run for the House election, he urged his states to vote for Breckinridge. However, as they were the belles of the ball and knew Breckinridge needed them to have a majority, they played hard to get. Douglas, despite declaring he would never accept election by the House if it indeed went there, ran and campaigned hard in the House to be the compromise candidate.
It lasted seventeen ballots. Seventeen excruciating, painful ballots. All eyes were on Washington DC. Tempers flared, fights were had between Congressmen, some of them even cried, and even the British and French ambassadors were concerned the United States might descend into anarchy should a president not be soon chosen as American tempers flared. They would regret becoming Cassandra in that moment because, even though a president was chosen, anarchy still reigned.
Eventually, on February 28th, 1861, the House finally chose a President. Controlling 17 State delegations, the bare necessity for a majority among the States, former Vice President John C. Breckinridge became the 16th President of the United States. Outraged that they had been cheated of the election, the abolitionist Republican Party seethed and vowed to win again in 1864. Slave Power would not win. However, the Supreme Court ruled later that year - Lemmon v. New York - that slave-owners could bring their slaves into free states for transit "or sojourn". However, Chief Justice Roger Taney went a step further like he did in Dred Scott and declared further that it was unconstitutional for state laws to abolish slavery.
The abolitionist cause reached a fever pitch. Slave Power had stolen from them again.
No more.
And so the first Northern state left the Union...
Note: New Jersey's split electoral votes is not depicted. 4 EVs went to Lincoln, 3 EVs went to Douglas.
Abraham Lincoln (Republican): 149 EVs
John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic): 94 EVs
Stephen A. Douglas ('Northern' Democratic): 36 EVs
John Bell (Constitutional Union): 24 EVs
Presidents of the United States of America
14. 1853-1857: Franklin Pierce (Democratic - New Hampshire)
15. 1857-1861: James Buchanan (Democratic - Pennsylvania)
16. 1861-0000: John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic - Kentucky)
Start of the American Civil War
I'd love to see a TL of this scenario. This is a scenario I feel isn't used enough as it really could have occurred.The 1860 presidential election (or, as some modern-day history teachers refer to it, The Great Stress-Inducer) was the 19th quadrennial presidential election held on Tuesday, November 6, 1860. It was also possibly the most convoluted election in American history and the catalyst for secession and voting lasted into February of 1861. Had Lincoln done a little better, and Douglas and Breckinridge done a little worse, it is thoroughly conceivable Lincoln and the Republican Party might have won - Indiana, Illinois, California and Oregon were close enough to potentially swing to Lincoln's camp. Alas it was not to be. Instead, it ended like the 1824 election with a deadlocked Electoral College and no clear winner. Lincoln, however, came closest with 149 electoral votes with 152 needed to win. And thus, like 1824, the election was sent to the House of Representatives and the 36th United States Congress.
The Republicans controlled fifteen state delegations. Breckinridge Democrats controlled thirteen, Douglas Democrats the state of Illinois, while Bell supporters controlled Tennessee. Three states (Kentucky, Maryland, and North Carolina) were equally divided between Breckinridge Democrats and Bell supporters. As Bell had the least number of votes and could not run for the House election, he urged his states to vote for Breckinridge. However, as they were the belles of the ball and knew Breckinridge needed them to have a majority, they played hard to get. Douglas, despite declaring he would never accept election by the House if it indeed went there, ran and campaigned hard in the House to be the compromise candidate.
It lasted seventeen ballots. Seventeen excruciating, painful ballots. All eyes were on Washington DC. Tempers flared, fights were had between Congressmen, some of them even cried, and even the British and French ambassadors were concerned the United States might descend into anarchy should a president not be soon chosen as American tempers flared. They would regret becoming Cassandra in that moment because, even though a president was chosen, anarchy still reigned.
Eventually, on February 28th, 1861, the House finally chose a President. Controlling 17 State delegations, the bare necessity for a majority among the States, former Vice President John C. Breckinridge became the 16th President of the United States. Outraged that they had been cheated of the election, the abolitionist Republican Party seethed and vowed to win again in 1864. Slave Power would not win. However, the Supreme Court ruled later that year - Lemmon v. New York - that slave-owners could bring their slaves into free states for transit "or sojourn". However, Chief Justice Roger Taney went a step further like he did in Dred Scott and declared further that it was unconstitutional for state laws to abolish slavery.
The abolitionist cause reached a fever pitch. Slave Power had stolen from them again.
No more.
And so the first Northern state left the Union...
Note: New Jersey's split electoral votes is not depicted. 4 EVs went to Lincoln, 3 EVs went to Douglas.
Abraham Lincoln (Republican): 149 EVs
John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic): 94 EVs
Stephen A. Douglas ('Northern' Democratic): 36 EVs
John Bell (Constitutional Union): 24 EVs
Presidents of the United States of America
14. 1853-1857: Franklin Pierce (Democratic - New Hampshire)
15. 1857-1861: James Buchanan (Democratic - Pennsylvania)
16. 1861-0000: John C. Breckinridge ('Southern' Democratic - Kentucky)
Start of the American Civil War
Senator Thomas Walsh (D-MT)/Senator George Berry (D-TN) 1925-1933
1924 def. President Warren Harding (R-OH)/Vice President Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)
1928 def. Former Governor Frank Lowden (R-IL)/Ambassador Charles Dawes (R-IL)
Senator George Norris (R-NE)/Former Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover (R-IO) 1933-1941
1932 def. Secretary of State Al Smith (D-NY)/Senator John Garner (D-TX)
1936 def. Senator Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Businessman Wendell Wilkie (D-IN)
Governor Alf Landon (R-KS)/Senator Arthur Vandenburg (R-MI) 1941-1949
1940 def. Senator Huey Long (D-LA)/Governor Upton Sinclair (D-CA)
1944 def. Senator Harry Truman (D-MO)/Senator Harry Bryd (D-VA)
Governor Henry Wallace (D-IO)/Senator Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) 1949-1957
1948 def. Vice President Arthur Vandenburg (R-MI)/Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN) Senator Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Former Senator Happy Chandler (SR-KY)
1952 def. Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)/General Douglas MacArthur (R-AR)
Senator Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA)/Senator Wayne Morse (R-OR) 1957-1965
1956 def. Vice President Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Governor Frank Lausche (D-OH)
1960 def. Senator Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)
Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Governor George Romney (R-MI) 1965-1973
1964 def. Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator George Smathers (D-FL) Governor George Wallace (SR-AL)Governor Orval Faubus (SR-AR)
1968 def. Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) Former Governor George Wallace (SR-AL)/Former General Curtis LeMay (SR-OH)
Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Senator Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1973-1981
1972 def. Vice President George Romney (R-MI)/Senator John Tower (R-TX)
1976 def. Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA)
Vice President Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1983
1980 def. Senator George W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)
Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Vacant 1983-1985
1984 def. Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator John Heinz (R-PA)
President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH)
Speaker Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-2001
1988 def. President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Vice President John Glenn (D-OH)
1992 def. Governor Micheal Dukakis (D-MA)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1996 def. Senator Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)
Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) 2001-2009
2000 def. Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
2004 def. Governor Christine Whitman (R-NJ)/Senator John Ashcroft (R-MO)
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Representative Bernie Sanders (D-VT) 2009-2017
2008 def. Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2012 def. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Governor Rick Perry (R-TX)
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) 2017-
2016 def. Senator Joe Biden (D-DL)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
1924 def. President Warren Harding (R-OH)/Vice President Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)
1928 def. Former Governor Frank Lowden (R-IL)/Ambassador Charles Dawes (R-IL)
Senator George Norris (R-NE)/Former Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover (R-IO) 1933-1941
1932 def. Secretary of State Al Smith (D-NY)/Senator John Garner (D-TX)
1936 def. Senator Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Businessman Wendell Wilkie (D-IN)
Governor Alf Landon (R-KS)/Senator Arthur Vandenburg (R-MI) 1941-1949
1940 def. Senator Huey Long (D-LA)/Governor Upton Sinclair (D-CA)
1944 def. Senator Harry Truman (D-MO)/Senator Harry Bryd (D-VA)
Governor Henry Wallace (D-IO)/Senator Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) 1949-1957
1948 def. Vice President Arthur Vandenburg (R-MI)/Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN) Senator Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)/Former Senator Happy Chandler (SR-KY)
1952 def. Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)/General Douglas MacArthur (R-AR)
Senator Henry Lodge Jr. (R-MA)/Senator Wayne Morse (R-OR) 1957-1965
1956 def. Vice President Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)/Governor Frank Lausche (D-OH)
1960 def. Senator Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)
Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Governor George Romney (R-MI) 1965-1973
1964 def. Senator Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator George Smathers (D-FL) Governor George Wallace (SR-AL)Governor Orval Faubus (SR-AR)
1968 def. Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) Former Governor George Wallace (SR-AL)/Former General Curtis LeMay (SR-OH)
Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Senator Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1973-1981
1972 def. Vice President George Romney (R-MI)/Senator John Tower (R-TX)
1976 def. Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA)
Vice President Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1983
1980 def. Senator George W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)
Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Vacant 1983-1985
1984 def. Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator John Heinz (R-PA)
President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH)
Speaker Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-2001
1988 def. President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Vice President John Glenn (D-OH)
1992 def. Governor Micheal Dukakis (D-MA)/Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1996 def. Senator Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)
Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) 2001-2009
2000 def. Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
2004 def. Governor Christine Whitman (R-NJ)/Senator John Ashcroft (R-MO)
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Representative Bernie Sanders (D-VT) 2009-2017
2008 def. Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2012 def. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Governor Rick Perry (R-TX)
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) 2017-
2016 def. Senator Joe Biden (D-DL)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Ethan P
Banned
Gore 2000, But Without Clinton, Obama, Sanders, McCain, Romney, Trump, Jeb, Cruz, Paul or Santorum...
2001-2005: VP Al Gore of Tennessee/Governor Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire (Dem)
2000: def. Governor George W Bush of Texas/Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana
2005-2009: Senator John Ashcroft of Missouri/Governor George Pataki of New York (Rep)
2004: def [incumbents] (Dem), Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut/various (Ind.)
2009-2013: Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator John Edwards of North Carolina (Dem)
2008: def [incumbent]/Senator John Thune of South Dakota
2013-2017: President Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator Bill Nelson of Florida (Dem)
2012: def. Fmr Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia/Governor Roy Blunt of Missouri (Rep), Fmr NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York/Fmr. Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont (Citizens')
2017-: VP Bill Nelson of Florida/Senator Susan Rice of Maine (Dem)
2016: def. Governor Brian Sandoval of Nevada/Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio (Rep)
2001-2005: VP Al Gore of Tennessee/Governor Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire (Dem)
2000: def. Governor George W Bush of Texas/Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana
2005-2009: Senator John Ashcroft of Missouri/Governor George Pataki of New York (Rep)
2004: def [incumbents] (Dem), Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut/various (Ind.)
2009-2013: Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator John Edwards of North Carolina (Dem)
2008: def [incumbent]/Senator John Thune of South Dakota
2013-2017: President Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator Bill Nelson of Florida (Dem)
2012: def. Fmr Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia/Governor Roy Blunt of Missouri (Rep), Fmr NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York/Fmr. Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont (Citizens')
2017-: VP Bill Nelson of Florida/Senator Susan Rice of Maine (Dem)
2016: def. Governor Brian Sandoval of Nevada/Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio (Rep)
Yeah this timeline's equivalent to the 22nd amendment isn't passed until the early 2000s.
Reagan in '76
Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA) 1977-1981
1976 def. Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN)
Former Ambassador Sargent Shriver (D-MD)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1981-1989
1980 def. Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)/Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
1984 def. Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)/Governor Pete Du Pont (R-DL)
Senator Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) 1989-1997
1988 def. Vice President Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)
1992 def. Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA)
Vice President Ron Paul (R-TX)/Governor John Engler (R-MI) 1997-2001
1996 def. Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 2001-2009
2000 def. President Ron Paul (R-TX)/Vice President John Engler (R-MI)
2004 def. Former Vice President John Engler (R-MI)/Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) 2009-2013
2008 def. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-IL)
Representative Alan Keyes (R-IL)/Senator Gary Johnson (R-NM) 2013-2021
2012 def. President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Joe Biden (D-DL)
2016 def. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)/Senator Mike Gabbard (D-HI)
Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)/Governor Jay Inslee (D-WA) 2021-
2020 def. Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)/Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR)
Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA) 1977-1981
1976 def. Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN)
Former Ambassador Sargent Shriver (D-MD)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1981-1989
1980 def. Senator Bob Dole (R-KS)/Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
1984 def. Senator Howard Baker (R-TN)/Governor Pete Du Pont (R-DL)
Senator Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) 1989-1997
1988 def. Vice President Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)
1992 def. Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA)
Vice President Ron Paul (R-TX)/Governor John Engler (R-MI) 1997-2001
1996 def. Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA)
Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 2001-2009
2000 def. President Ron Paul (R-TX)/Vice President John Engler (R-MI)
2004 def. Former Vice President John Engler (R-MI)/Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) 2009-2013
2008 def. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-IL)
Representative Alan Keyes (R-IL)/Senator Gary Johnson (R-NM) 2013-2021
2012 def. President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Joe Biden (D-DL)
2016 def. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)/Senator Mike Gabbard (D-HI)
Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)/Governor Jay Inslee (D-WA) 2021-
2020 def. Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA)/Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR)
Why did the Republicans nominate Bob Dole in 1980 instead of re-nominating incumbent President Reagan?
Iran-Contra like scandal that lost him the primary, just like what he did to Ford in this timeline.
Chapman
Donor
1961-1965: Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R-MA)
Def. 1960 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX), Harry F. Byrd, Sr. (Faithless Democrat-VA)/Strom Thurmond (Faithless Democrat-SC)
1965-1973: Hubert Horatio Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund "Pat" Brown, Sr. (D-CA)
Def. 1964 Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)/Thruston Morton (R-KY), George C. Wallace, Jr. (Dixiecrat-AL)/Robert Byrd, Jr. (Dixiecrat-WV)
Def. 1968 Barry Morris Goldwater (R-AZ)/William "Bill" Scranton (R-PA), Nelson Rockefeller (Faithless Republican-NY)/ Various
1973-1977: George Wilcken Romney (R-MI)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
Def. 1972 Edmund "Pat" Brown, Sr. (D-CA)/Fred R. Harris (R-OK)
1977-1981: Morris "Mo" Udall † (D-AZ)/Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale (D-MN)
Def. 1976 George Wilcken Romney (R-MI)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV), Jesse Helms, Jr. (Conservative-NC)/Marion Gordon "Pat" Robertson (Conservative-VA)
Def. 1980 John G. Tower (R-TX)/Donald Henry Rumsfeld (R-IL)
1981-1982: Walter Frederick Mondale (D-MN)/ Vacant
1982-1989: Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale (D-MN)/Gary Warren Hart (D-CO)
Def. 1984 Robert "Bob" Dole (R-KS)/Alexander Haig, Jr. (R-PA)
1989-1997: Jack French Kemp (R-NY)/Courken George Deukmejian, Jr. (R-CA)
Def. 1988 Gary Warren Hart (D-CO)/Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (D-TN)
Def. 1992 Dorothy Ann Richards (D-TX)/Joseph Richard "Bob" Kerrey (D-NE)
1997-2005: Courken George Deukmejian, Jr. (R-CA)/John C. Danforth (R-MO)
Def. 1996 Edumund "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA)/Jesse Louis Jackson, Sr. (D-DC), Patrick J. Buchanan (Conservative-VA)/John D. Ashcroft (Conservative-MO)
Def. 2000 William "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ) (replacing Paul Wellstone † D-MN)/Daniel Robert "Bob" Graham (D-FL)
2005-2013: John Forbes Kerry (D-MA)/Gary F. Locke (D-WA)
Def. 2004 Freddie D. Thompson (R-TN)/Malcolm Stevenson "Steve" Forbes, Jr. (R-NY)
Def. 2008 Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-UT)/Julius Caesar Watts, Jr. (R-OK)
2013-2017: James Richard "Rick" Perry (R-TX)/Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Def. 2012 Gary F. Locke (D-WA)/Johnny "John" Edwards (D-NC)
2017-20??: Russell "Russ" Feingold (D-WI)/Kirsten Elizabeth Gillibrand (D-NY)
Def. 2016 James Richard "Rick" Perry (R-TX)/Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Michael Rubens Bloomberg (Independent-NY)/Charles "Charlie" Crist, Jr. (Independent-FL)
Def. 1960 John Fitzgerald Kennedy (D-MA)/Lyndon Baines Johnson (D-TX), Harry F. Byrd, Sr. (Faithless Democrat-VA)/Strom Thurmond (Faithless Democrat-SC)
1965-1973: Hubert Horatio Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund "Pat" Brown, Sr. (D-CA)
Def. 1964 Richard Milhous Nixon (R-CA)/Thruston Morton (R-KY), George C. Wallace, Jr. (Dixiecrat-AL)/Robert Byrd, Jr. (Dixiecrat-WV)
Def. 1968 Barry Morris Goldwater (R-AZ)/William "Bill" Scranton (R-PA), Nelson Rockefeller (Faithless Republican-NY)/ Various
1973-1977: George Wilcken Romney (R-MI)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
Def. 1972 Edmund "Pat" Brown, Sr. (D-CA)/Fred R. Harris (R-OK)
1977-1981: Morris "Mo" Udall † (D-AZ)/Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale (D-MN)
Def. 1976 George Wilcken Romney (R-MI)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV), Jesse Helms, Jr. (Conservative-NC)/Marion Gordon "Pat" Robertson (Conservative-VA)
Def. 1980 John G. Tower (R-TX)/Donald Henry Rumsfeld (R-IL)
1981-1982: Walter Frederick Mondale (D-MN)/ Vacant
1982-1989: Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale (D-MN)/Gary Warren Hart (D-CO)
Def. 1984 Robert "Bob" Dole (R-KS)/Alexander Haig, Jr. (R-PA)
1989-1997: Jack French Kemp (R-NY)/Courken George Deukmejian, Jr. (R-CA)
Def. 1988 Gary Warren Hart (D-CO)/Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (D-TN)
Def. 1992 Dorothy Ann Richards (D-TX)/Joseph Richard "Bob" Kerrey (D-NE)
1997-2005: Courken George Deukmejian, Jr. (R-CA)/John C. Danforth (R-MO)
Def. 1996 Edumund "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA)/Jesse Louis Jackson, Sr. (D-DC), Patrick J. Buchanan (Conservative-VA)/John D. Ashcroft (Conservative-MO)
Def. 2000 William "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ) (replacing Paul Wellstone † D-MN)/Daniel Robert "Bob" Graham (D-FL)
2005-2013: John Forbes Kerry (D-MA)/Gary F. Locke (D-WA)
Def. 2004 Freddie D. Thompson (R-TN)/Malcolm Stevenson "Steve" Forbes, Jr. (R-NY)
Def. 2008 Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-UT)/Julius Caesar Watts, Jr. (R-OK)
2013-2017: James Richard "Rick" Perry (R-TX)/Michele Bachmann (R-MN)
Def. 2012 Gary F. Locke (D-WA)/Johnny "John" Edwards (D-NC)
2017-20??: Russell "Russ" Feingold (D-WI)/Kirsten Elizabeth Gillibrand (D-NY)
Def. 2016 James Richard "Rick" Perry (R-TX)/Michele Bachmann (R-MN), Michael Rubens Bloomberg (Independent-NY)/Charles "Charlie" Crist, Jr. (Independent-FL)
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