To be fair, Carter being assassinated in September 1980 would turn the presidential election in all directions. Mondale is going to get a lot of sympathy votes even if he fails to resolve the hostage crisis before the election. Compared to OTL 1980 you might see a 5 to 10 percent swing in favor of the Democrats.
List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
- Thread starter Asami
- Start date
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Provisional President of Patagonia
1. Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
(October 14, 1810- November 6, 1816)
List of Presidents of Patagonia
1. Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
(November 6, 1816-January 14, 1826)
1820 Def: Lewis Tappan/John Quincy Adams(Constructionist)
2. John Quincy Adams/Caleb Cushing (Constructionist)
(January 14, 1826-August 11, 1839)
1826 Def: Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
1832 Def: Unopposed
1838 Def: Unopposed
3. Caleb Cushing/Fredrick Douglas (Constructionist)
(August 11, 1839-August 12, 1849)
1844 Def: Joseph Smith/Brigham Young (Latter Alliance)
4. Fredrick Douglass/Vacant (Constructionist)
(August 12, 1849-January 15, 1851)
5. Lewis Tappan/John Greenleaf Whitter (Freedom)
(January 15, 1851-September 3, 1855)
1850 Def: Fredrick Douglass/Harriet Tubman (Constructionist)
6. John Greenleaf Whitter/Abraham Lincoln (Freedom)
(September 3, 1855-August 15, 1860)
7. Abraham Lincoln/Walt Whitman (Freedom)
(August 15, 1860-November 5, 1874)
1860 Def: John Greenleaf Whitter/Fredrick Douglas (Constructionist)
8. Henry Wilson/John Greenleaf Whitter (Constructionist)
(November 5, 1874-January 5, 1878)
1876 Def: Horace Greeley/Bartolome Mitre (Freedom)
9. John Greenleaf Whitter/Vacant (Constructionist)
(January 5, 1878-November 5, 1882)
10. Bartolome Mitre/William T. Sherman (Military) [1]
(November 5, 1882-November 5, 1884)
1882 Def: Theodore Dwight Weld/John Greenleaf Whitter (Independence Cry)
11. Theodore Dwight Weld (Freedom)
(November 5, 1884-July 16, 1888)
12. Bartolome Mitre (Soldiers for Politics)
(July 16, 1888-November 4, 1889)
1888 Def: Theodore Dwight Weld (Freedom)
13. Joseph Jenkin Roberts (Freedom)
(November 4, 1889- July 14, 1897)
1894 Def: Ralph Waldo Emmerson (Constructionist)
14. Laura Smith Haviland (Constructionist)
(July 14, 1897-January 15, 1908)
1899 Def: Julio Argentino Roca (Freedom)
15. Theodore Roosevelt (Freedom-Salt)
(January 15, 1908-January 11, 1919)
1907 Def: Charles D. B King (Freedom-Pepper)
16. Neville Chamberlain (Republican)
(January 11, 1919-January 11, 1929)
1918 Def: Harry Haywood (Independent)
17. Walter White (Freedom)
(January 11, 1929-January 1, 1939)
1928 Def: A. Phillip Randolph (Socialist Integrity) cf8774
18. Luis Dellepiane (Military)
(January 1, 1939-May 20, 1941)
1938 Def: Elections suspended
19. Lancelot Holland (Military)
(May 20, 1941-May 24, 1945)
20. Carlos Lopez King Jr(Constructionist)
(May 24, 1945-January 11, 1969)
1948 Def: Adolf Eichmann (Freedom) Hellen Keller (Word of the Left)
1958 Def: Bernard Montgomery (Military Freedom) #94c28d
21. A Phillip Randolph (Socialist Integrity)
(January 11, 1969-January 11, 1970)
1968 Def: Adolf Hitler (Patagonia Front)
22. Adolf Hitler (Patagonia Front)
(January 11, 1970-September 7, 1977) #14396e
23. Thomas Jefferson Lincoln Wallace (Patagonia Front)
(September 7, 1977-November 1, 1980)
24. Lyndon B. "Gucci" Johnson (Provisional Restoration Committee)
(November 1, 1980-April 15, 1992)
25. Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front)
(April 15, 1992-April 15, 2002)
1994 Def: Isabell Kennedy (Awake Patagonia!) Lyndon B. "Gucci" Johnson (Constructionist)
1998 Def: Jean Kennedy Smith (Awake Patagonia!)
26. Jean Kennedy Jefferson (Awake Patagonia!)
(April 15, 2002-April 15, 2014)
2002 Def: Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front)
2008 Def: Theodore Kennedy McCllean (Patagonia Front)
27. Michael Bloomberg Jefferson (Steady Course)
(April 15, 2014-present)
2014 Def: Jean Fitzpatrick (Patagonia Front) George Videla (Constructionist) Jean Kennedy Jefferson (Awake Patagonia!)
2020 Def: Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front) Collin Powell (Constructionist) Robert F. Kennedy Jr (Awake Patagonia!)
[1] Position of Vice President abolished in 1883
1. Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
(October 14, 1810- November 6, 1816)
List of Presidents of Patagonia
1. Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
(November 6, 1816-January 14, 1826)
1820 Def: Lewis Tappan/John Quincy Adams(Constructionist)
2. John Quincy Adams/Caleb Cushing (Constructionist)
(January 14, 1826-August 11, 1839)
1826 Def: Thomas Jefferson/William Henry Harrison (Freedom)
1832 Def: Unopposed
1838 Def: Unopposed
3. Caleb Cushing/Fredrick Douglas (Constructionist)
(August 11, 1839-August 12, 1849)
1844 Def: Joseph Smith/Brigham Young (Latter Alliance)
4. Fredrick Douglass/Vacant (Constructionist)
(August 12, 1849-January 15, 1851)
5. Lewis Tappan/John Greenleaf Whitter (Freedom)
(January 15, 1851-September 3, 1855)
1850 Def: Fredrick Douglass/Harriet Tubman (Constructionist)
6. John Greenleaf Whitter/Abraham Lincoln (Freedom)
(September 3, 1855-August 15, 1860)
7. Abraham Lincoln/Walt Whitman (Freedom)
(August 15, 1860-November 5, 1874)
1860 Def: John Greenleaf Whitter/Fredrick Douglas (Constructionist)
8. Henry Wilson/John Greenleaf Whitter (Constructionist)
(November 5, 1874-January 5, 1878)
1876 Def: Horace Greeley/Bartolome Mitre (Freedom)
9. John Greenleaf Whitter/Vacant (Constructionist)
(January 5, 1878-November 5, 1882)
10. Bartolome Mitre/William T. Sherman (Military) [1]
(November 5, 1882-November 5, 1884)
1882 Def: Theodore Dwight Weld/John Greenleaf Whitter (Independence Cry)
11. Theodore Dwight Weld (Freedom)
(November 5, 1884-July 16, 1888)
12. Bartolome Mitre (Soldiers for Politics)
(July 16, 1888-November 4, 1889)
1888 Def: Theodore Dwight Weld (Freedom)
13. Joseph Jenkin Roberts (Freedom)
(November 4, 1889- July 14, 1897)
1894 Def: Ralph Waldo Emmerson (Constructionist)
14. Laura Smith Haviland (Constructionist)
(July 14, 1897-January 15, 1908)
1899 Def: Julio Argentino Roca (Freedom)
15. Theodore Roosevelt (Freedom-Salt)
(January 15, 1908-January 11, 1919)
1907 Def: Charles D. B King (Freedom-Pepper)
16. Neville Chamberlain (Republican)
(January 11, 1919-January 11, 1929)
1918 Def: Harry Haywood (Independent)
17. Walter White (Freedom)
(January 11, 1929-January 1, 1939)
1928 Def: A. Phillip Randolph (Socialist Integrity) cf8774
18. Luis Dellepiane (Military)
(January 1, 1939-May 20, 1941)
1938 Def: Elections suspended
19. Lancelot Holland (Military)
(May 20, 1941-May 24, 1945)
20. Carlos Lopez King Jr(Constructionist)
(May 24, 1945-January 11, 1969)
1948 Def: Adolf Eichmann (Freedom) Hellen Keller (Word of the Left)
1958 Def: Bernard Montgomery (Military Freedom) #94c28d
21. A Phillip Randolph (Socialist Integrity)
(January 11, 1969-January 11, 1970)
1968 Def: Adolf Hitler (Patagonia Front)
22. Adolf Hitler (Patagonia Front)
(January 11, 1970-September 7, 1977) #14396e
23. Thomas Jefferson Lincoln Wallace (Patagonia Front)
(September 7, 1977-November 1, 1980)
24. Lyndon B. "Gucci" Johnson (Provisional Restoration Committee)
(November 1, 1980-April 15, 1992)
25. Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front)
(April 15, 1992-April 15, 2002)
1994 Def: Isabell Kennedy (Awake Patagonia!) Lyndon B. "Gucci" Johnson (Constructionist)
1998 Def: Jean Kennedy Smith (Awake Patagonia!)
26. Jean Kennedy Jefferson (Awake Patagonia!)
(April 15, 2002-April 15, 2014)
2002 Def: Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front)
2008 Def: Theodore Kennedy McCllean (Patagonia Front)
27. Michael Bloomberg Jefferson (Steady Course)
(April 15, 2014-present)
2014 Def: Jean Fitzpatrick (Patagonia Front) George Videla (Constructionist) Jean Kennedy Jefferson (Awake Patagonia!)
2020 Def: Alessandra Mussolini (Patagonia Front) Collin Powell (Constructionist) Robert F. Kennedy Jr (Awake Patagonia!)
[1] Position of Vice President abolished in 1883
Comrade Izaac
Banned
Regional Balances Matter
Kennedy goes with his original choice, Senator Symington of Missouri, rather than Johnson in 60'. As it turns out, this has consequences.
1961-1969: Richard Nixon of California/Jacob Javits of New York (Republican)
1960: Vice President Richard Nixon of California/Senator Jacob Javits of New York (Republican) Def. Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts/Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri (Democratic)
1964: President Richard Nixon of California/Vice President Jacob Javits of New York (Republican) Def. Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri/Senator Cliff Finch of Mississippi (Democratic) And General David M. Shoup of Indiana/D.C Board of Commissioners President Walter Washington (Peace and Civil Rights) And Governor Orval Fabus of Arkansas/Businessman Harland Sanders of Kentucky (States Rights)
1969-1977: Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/Robert F. Kennedy Sr. of New York (Democratic)
1968: Governor Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/New York City Mayor Robert F. Kennedy of New York (Democratic) Def. Vice President Jacob Javits of New York/Senate Minority Leader Roman Hurska of Nebraska (Republican) And Governor Orval Fabus of Arkansas/Former Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia (States Rights)
1972: President Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/Vice President Robert F. Kennedy of New York (Democratic) Def. Governor Robert McNamara of California/Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania (Republican)
1977-1978: Robert F. Kennedy Sr. of New York/Earl Long of Louisiana (Democratic)
1976: Vice President Robert F. Kennedy of New York/Senator Earl Long of Louisiana (Democratic) Def. Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania/Senator Henry Loeb of Tennessee (Republican) And Senator Charles Matthias of Maryland/Former Senator Patrick Lucey of Wisconsin (Alliance 76'/The Liberals)
1978-1981: Earl Long of Louisiana/Richard Stone of Florida (Democratic)
1981-1989: Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican)
1980: Senator Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/Governor John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican) Def. President Earl Long of Louisiana/Vice President Richard Stone of Florida (Democratic) And Former Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania/Representative Larry McDonald of Georgia (States Rights)
1984: President Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/Vice President John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican) Def. Former Senator George McGovern of South Dakota [Replacing Bernie Sanders]/Senator Tom Turnipseed of South Carolina [Replacing George McGovern] (Democratic)
1989-1997: Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican)
1988: Secretary of Industrial and Rural Development Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Senator Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican) Def. Senator Henry Cisneros of Texas/Senator Skip Humphrey of Minnesota (Democratic)
1992: President Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Vice President Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican) Def. Senator Skip Humphrey of Minnesota/Governor Tom Bradley of California
1997-2005: Johnathon Frakes of California/Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic)
1996: Governor Johnathon Frakes of California/Senator Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic) Def. Vice President Alexander Haig of Maryland/Senator John McCain of Arizona (Republican)
2000: President Johnathon Frakes of California/Vice President Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic) Def. Governor Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey/Senator Donald Rumsfeld of Illinois (Republican) And Businessman Donald J. Trump of New York/Businesswoman and Actress Oprah Winfrey of Georgia (Independent)
2005-2013: Connie Mack III of Florida/Judy Martz of Montana (Republican)
2004: Governor Connie Mack III of Florida/Senator Judy Martz of Montana (Republican) Def. Governor Ron Sims of Washington/Governor Barbra Mikulski of Maryland (Democratic)
2008: President Connie Mack III of Florida/Vice President Judy Martz of Montana (Republican) Def. Governor Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota (Democratic) And Actor and Activist Al Gore of Tennessee/Los Angeles Mayor William Sanford Nye of California (Ecological)
2013-2017: Bernadette Castro of New York/Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican)
2012: New York City Mayor Bernadette Castro of New York/Senator Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican) Def. Governor Alan Grayson of Florida/Senator Martin O' Malley of Maryland (Democratic) And Former Governor Jill Stein of Massachusetts/Representative Andrew Halcro of Alaska (Independent)
2017-????: Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of New York (Democratic)
2016: Former Governor Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of New York (Democratic) Def. President Bernadette Castro of New York/Vice President Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican)
Kennedy goes with his original choice, Senator Symington of Missouri, rather than Johnson in 60'. As it turns out, this has consequences.
1961-1969: Richard Nixon of California/Jacob Javits of New York (Republican)
1960: Vice President Richard Nixon of California/Senator Jacob Javits of New York (Republican) Def. Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts/Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri (Democratic)
1964: President Richard Nixon of California/Vice President Jacob Javits of New York (Republican) Def. Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri/Senator Cliff Finch of Mississippi (Democratic) And General David M. Shoup of Indiana/D.C Board of Commissioners President Walter Washington (Peace and Civil Rights) And Governor Orval Fabus of Arkansas/Businessman Harland Sanders of Kentucky (States Rights)
1969-1977: Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/Robert F. Kennedy Sr. of New York (Democratic)
1968: Governor Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/New York City Mayor Robert F. Kennedy of New York (Democratic) Def. Vice President Jacob Javits of New York/Senate Minority Leader Roman Hurska of Nebraska (Republican) And Governor Orval Fabus of Arkansas/Former Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia (States Rights)
1972: President Edward Breathitt of Kentucky/Vice President Robert F. Kennedy of New York (Democratic) Def. Governor Robert McNamara of California/Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania (Republican)
1977-1978: Robert F. Kennedy Sr. of New York/Earl Long of Louisiana (Democratic)
1976: Vice President Robert F. Kennedy of New York/Senator Earl Long of Louisiana (Democratic) Def. Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania/Senator Henry Loeb of Tennessee (Republican) And Senator Charles Matthias of Maryland/Former Senator Patrick Lucey of Wisconsin (Alliance 76'/The Liberals)
1978-1981: Earl Long of Louisiana/Richard Stone of Florida (Democratic)
1981-1989: Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican)
1980: Senator Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/Governor John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican) Def. President Earl Long of Louisiana/Vice President Richard Stone of Florida (Democratic) And Former Governor Frank Rizzo of Pennsylvania/Representative Larry McDonald of Georgia (States Rights)
1984: President Edward Brooke of Massachusetts/Vice President John B. Anderson of Illinois (Republican) Def. Former Senator George McGovern of South Dakota [Replacing Bernie Sanders]/Senator Tom Turnipseed of South Carolina [Replacing George McGovern] (Democratic)
1989-1997: Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican)
1988: Secretary of Industrial and Rural Development Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Senator Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican) Def. Senator Henry Cisneros of Texas/Senator Skip Humphrey of Minnesota (Democratic)
1992: President Gil Carmichael of Mississippi/Vice President Alexander Haig of Maryland (Republican) Def. Senator Skip Humphrey of Minnesota/Governor Tom Bradley of California
1997-2005: Johnathon Frakes of California/Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic)
1996: Governor Johnathon Frakes of California/Senator Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic) Def. Vice President Alexander Haig of Maryland/Senator John McCain of Arizona (Republican)
2000: President Johnathon Frakes of California/Vice President Dudley Dudley of New Hampshire (Democratic) Def. Governor Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey/Senator Donald Rumsfeld of Illinois (Republican) And Businessman Donald J. Trump of New York/Businesswoman and Actress Oprah Winfrey of Georgia (Independent)
2005-2013: Connie Mack III of Florida/Judy Martz of Montana (Republican)
2004: Governor Connie Mack III of Florida/Senator Judy Martz of Montana (Republican) Def. Governor Ron Sims of Washington/Governor Barbra Mikulski of Maryland (Democratic)
2008: President Connie Mack III of Florida/Vice President Judy Martz of Montana (Republican) Def. Governor Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota (Democratic) And Actor and Activist Al Gore of Tennessee/Los Angeles Mayor William Sanford Nye of California (Ecological)
2013-2017: Bernadette Castro of New York/Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican)
2012: New York City Mayor Bernadette Castro of New York/Senator Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican) Def. Governor Alan Grayson of Florida/Senator Martin O' Malley of Maryland (Democratic) And Former Governor Jill Stein of Massachusetts/Representative Andrew Halcro of Alaska (Independent)
2017-????: Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of New York (Democratic)
2016: Former Governor Stephanie Herseth Sandlin of South Dakota/Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of New York (Democratic) Def. President Bernadette Castro of New York/Vice President Rick Snyder of Michigan (Republican)
Weird thing I cooked up
Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Senator George McGovern (D-ND) 1969-1977
1968 def. Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Margaret C. Smith (R-ME) Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-OH)
1972 def. Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Governor James Rhodes (R-OH)
Senator Charles Percy (R-IL)/Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD) 1977-1985
1976 def. Mo Udall (D-AZ)/Frank Church (D-ID)
1980 def. Dale Bumpers (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-CA)
Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH) 1985-1987
1984 def. John Heinz (R-PA)/John Anderson (R-IL)
Vice President John Glenn(D-OH)/Vacant 1987-1989
Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Former Secretary of War Alexander Haig (R-PA) 1989-1997
1988 def. President John Glenn (D-OH)/Governor Micheal Dukakis (D-MA)
1992 def. Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Jerry Brown (I-CA) Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Tom Harkin (D-IO)
Businessman Ross Perot (RF-TX)/Jerry Brown (RF-CA) 1997-2005
1996 def. Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/General Colin Powell (R-NY) Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Dick Gephardt (D-MO)
2000 def. Governor George Pataki (R-NY)/Representative John Kasich (R-OH) Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Governor Jesse Ventura (RF-MN)/Govenor Howard Dean (RF-VT) 2005-2013
2004 def. Senator Lamar Alexander (NU-TN)/Senator Joe Biden (NU-DL) Representative Dennis Kucinich (I-OH)/Reverend Al Sharpton (I-NY)
2008 def. Governor Mitt Romney (NU-MA)/Senator Hillary Clinton (NU-AR)
Senator Bernie Sanders (PG-VT)/Senator Barack Obama (PG-IL) 2013-2016
2012 def. Representative Ron Paul (RF-TX)/Governor Mike Huckabee (RF-AR) Businessman Donald Trump (NU-NY)/Senator Rick Santorum (NU-PA) Senator Joe Biden (CA-DL)/Senator Jim Webb (CA-VA)
President Bernie Sanders (PG-VT)/Vacant 2016-2017
President Bernie Sanders (PR-VT)/Senator Rand Paul (PR-KY) 2017-
2016 def. Senator Marco Rubio (NU-FL)/Lincoln Chaffee (NU-CT)
Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Senator George McGovern (D-ND) 1969-1977
1968 def. Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Margaret C. Smith (R-ME) Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-OH)
1972 def. Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Governor James Rhodes (R-OH)
Senator Charles Percy (R-IL)/Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD) 1977-1985
1976 def. Mo Udall (D-AZ)/Frank Church (D-ID)
1980 def. Dale Bumpers (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-CA)
Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH) 1985-1987
1984 def. John Heinz (R-PA)/John Anderson (R-IL)
Vice President John Glenn(D-OH)/Vacant 1987-1989
Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Former Secretary of War Alexander Haig (R-PA) 1989-1997
1988 def. President John Glenn (D-OH)/Governor Micheal Dukakis (D-MA)
1992 def. Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Jerry Brown (I-CA) Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Tom Harkin (D-IO)
Businessman Ross Perot (RF-TX)/Jerry Brown (RF-CA) 1997-2005
1996 def. Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/General Colin Powell (R-NY) Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Dick Gephardt (D-MO)
2000 def. Governor George Pataki (R-NY)/Representative John Kasich (R-OH) Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
Governor Jesse Ventura (RF-MN)/Govenor Howard Dean (RF-VT) 2005-2013
2004 def. Senator Lamar Alexander (NU-TN)/Senator Joe Biden (NU-DL) Representative Dennis Kucinich (I-OH)/Reverend Al Sharpton (I-NY)
2008 def. Governor Mitt Romney (NU-MA)/Senator Hillary Clinton (NU-AR)
Senator Bernie Sanders (PG-VT)/Senator Barack Obama (PG-IL) 2013-2016
2012 def. Representative Ron Paul (RF-TX)/Governor Mike Huckabee (RF-AR) Businessman Donald Trump (NU-NY)/Senator Rick Santorum (NU-PA) Senator Joe Biden (CA-DL)/Senator Jim Webb (CA-VA)
President Bernie Sanders (PG-VT)/Vacant 2016-2017
President Bernie Sanders (PR-VT)/Senator Rand Paul (PR-KY) 2017-
2016 def. Senator Marco Rubio (NU-FL)/Lincoln Chaffee (NU-CT)
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Qaz_plm
Banned
Spot the analogue!
Margaret Chase Smith-1981-1989
1980: Walt Mondale ,John Connally
1984: Mike Gravel,John Connally ,Edward Kennedy
George Bush-1989-1997
1988: Michael Dukakis , Wayne Owens ,John Connally
1992: Michael Dukakis, Wesley Clark
Rahm Emanuel-1997-2005
1996: Pete Wilson ,Wesley Clark
2000: Jeb Bush, Howard Dean
Dick Gephardt-2005-2009
2004: Orrin Hatch ,Michael Bloomberg
Eric Cantor-2009-2016
2008: Dick Gephardt,Mitt Romney
2012: Julian Castro ,John McCain
Olympia Snowe-2016-2019
2016: Howie Hawkins,John McCain
Joe Scarborough-2019-????
2020: Howie Hawkins ,Alyssa Milano
Margaret Chase Smith-1981-1989
1980: Walt Mondale ,John Connally
1984: Mike Gravel,John Connally ,Edward Kennedy
George Bush-1989-1997
1988: Michael Dukakis , Wayne Owens ,John Connally
1992: Michael Dukakis, Wesley Clark
Rahm Emanuel-1997-2005
1996: Pete Wilson ,Wesley Clark
2000: Jeb Bush, Howard Dean
Dick Gephardt-2005-2009
2004: Orrin Hatch ,Michael Bloomberg
Eric Cantor-2009-2016
2008: Dick Gephardt,Mitt Romney
2012: Julian Castro ,John McCain
Olympia Snowe-2016-2019
2016: Howie Hawkins,John McCain
Joe Scarborough-2019-????
2020: Howie Hawkins ,Alyssa Milano
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Ethan P
Banned
US (1980-) as UK (1979-):
Margaret Chase Smith --Thatcher
George Bush --John Major
Rahm Emanuel --Tony Blair
Dick Gephardt --Gordon Brown
Eric Cantor --David Cameron
Olympia Snowe --Theresa May
Joe Scarborough --Boris Johnson
Defeated party leaders/presidential candidates:
Howie Hawkins --Corbyn
The Castros (Julian and Joaquin) --Millibrands
Everybody else --I don't know enough about UK politics
Also TTL seems to have a popular-vote system, given the continued presence and persistence of a third party.
Deleted member 139407
Walt Mondale and Mike Gravel take on the roles of James Callaghan and Michael Foot, respectfully, no? Michael Dukakis is Neil Kinnock's stand in. Pete Wilson and Jeb Bush are stand ins for William Hague and Michael Howard. The third parties are a stand in for the UK's Liberal Party (Orange), Social Democratic Party (Dark Purple) and the modern-day amalgamation of the two: the Liberal Democrats (Periwinkle). These could be what @Qaz_plm had in mind for the LibDem stand ins while including American political figures:
John Connally -> David Steel (Liberal)
Edward Kennedy -> Roy Jenkins (SDP)
Wayne Owens -> David Ownens (SDP)
Wesley Clark -> Paddy Ashdown (LibDems)
Howard Dean -> Charles Kennedy (LibDems)
Michael Bloomberg -> Nick Clegg (LibDems)?
Mitt Romney -> Nick Clegg (LibDems)?
John McCain -> Tim Farron (LibDems)?
Alyssa Milano -> Jo Swinson (LibDems)
Qaz_plm
Banned
You guys are correct it's UK in USA ,
But Mr.Havana and Ethan P got it pretty much spot on
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William Jennings Bryan 1896-1905
Charles W Fairbanks 1905-1913
Thomas E.Watson 1913-1921
Charles Curtis 21-29
Andrew Mellon 29-30 - Republican ^_* (this means impeached and removed)
John J Pershing 30-33 - Independent
Floyd Olson 33-36
Huey Long 36-54
Henry Wallace 54-61
George Aiken 61-65
Norman Thomas 65-68
Frank Zeilder 68-73
Charles W Fairbanks 1905-1913
Thomas E.Watson 1913-1921
Charles Curtis 21-29
Andrew Mellon 29-30 - Republican ^_* (this means impeached and removed)
John J Pershing 30-33 - Independent
Floyd Olson 33-36
Huey Long 36-54
Henry Wallace 54-61
George Aiken 61-65
Norman Thomas 65-68
Frank Zeilder 68-73
KirkSolo
Banned
Ye Olde Switcheroo
1992-1999 Paddy Ashdown
1992 def. John Major, Rhodes Boyson
1997 def. Geoffrey Howe, Rhodes Boyson
1999-2002 Charles Kennedy
2002-2011 Iain Duncan Smith
2002 def. Charles Kennedy, Tony Benn
2007 def. Vince Cable, Tony Benn
2011-2012 Michael Hesseltine
2012-2021 David Lammy
2012 def. Michael Hesseltine, Tony Benn
2017 def. Phillip Hammond, Douglas Carswell
2021-2022 Kate Hoey
2022-present Peter Bone
2022 def. Kate Hoey, Douglas Carswell
2027 Peter Bone, Simon Hughes, Jeremy Corbyn, Suzanne Evans
America, in my research for this list, I've discovered that your Libertarian nominee was born in a place called "Libertyville" and that you have a prominent political analyst named "Krystal Ball".
What's going on?
1992-1999 Paddy Ashdown
1992 def. John Major, Rhodes Boyson
1997 def. Geoffrey Howe, Rhodes Boyson
1999-2002 Charles Kennedy
2002-2011 Iain Duncan Smith
2002 def. Charles Kennedy, Tony Benn
2007 def. Vince Cable, Tony Benn
2011-2012 Michael Hesseltine
2012-2021 David Lammy
2012 def. Michael Hesseltine, Tony Benn
2017 def. Phillip Hammond, Douglas Carswell
2021-2022 Kate Hoey
2022-present Peter Bone
2022 def. Kate Hoey, Douglas Carswell
2027 Peter Bone, Simon Hughes, Jeremy Corbyn, Suzanne Evans
America, in my research for this list, I've discovered that your Libertarian nominee was born in a place called "Libertyville" and that you have a prominent political analyst named "Krystal Ball".
What's going on?
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Deleted member 139407
Your guess is as good as mine, dude... AND I LIVE HERE!
BlackentheBorg
Banned
1969-1974: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
def. Hubert Humphrey/Edward Muskie, George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent/AIP)
def Edward Muskie/Terry Sanford, James Utt/William Dyke (AIP), Eugene McCarthy/Paul Seabury (Committee for Peace/CFPJ)
1974-1974: Spiro Agnew/[vacant]
1974-1977: Gerald Ford/[vacant]
1977-1985: George McGovern/John Jay Hooker (CFP-Endorsed Democratic)
def. Gerald Ford/Barry Goldwater Jr., Larry McDonald/Anthony Imperiale (Independent/Patriot League)
def. Tom Kindness/Clarke Reed
1985-19??: Ronnie Reagan/Edward Brooke
def. John Jay Hooker/Muhammad Kenyatta
def. Hubert Humphrey/Edward Muskie, George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent/AIP)
def Edward Muskie/Terry Sanford, James Utt/William Dyke (AIP), Eugene McCarthy/Paul Seabury (Committee for Peace/CFPJ)
1974-1974: Spiro Agnew/[vacant]
1974-1977: Gerald Ford/[vacant]
1977-1985: George McGovern/John Jay Hooker (CFP-Endorsed Democratic)
def. Gerald Ford/Barry Goldwater Jr., Larry McDonald/Anthony Imperiale (Independent/Patriot League)
def. Tom Kindness/Clarke Reed
1985-19??: Ronnie Reagan/Edward Brooke
def. John Jay Hooker/Muhammad Kenyatta
Yet another 1968 Timeline
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Richard Schweiker (R-PA) 1969-1977
1968 def. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-OH)
1972 def. John Lindsay (D-NY)/Scoop Jackson (D-WA)
Howard Baker (R-TN)/John Heinz (R-PA) 1977-1981
1976 def. Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1981-1989
1980 def. Howard Baker (R-TN)/John Heinz (R-PA)
1984 def. John Anderson (R-IL)/Bob Dole (R-KS) George Bush (P-TX)/Donald Rumsfeld (P-IL)
Birch Bayh (D-IN)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1989-1997
1988 def. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA) Pat Robertson(P-VA)/Bill Brock (P-TN)
1992 def. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/John Engler (R-MI) Dick Cheney (P-WY)/Harold Stassen (P-MN)
John McCain (R-AZ)/Christine T. Whitman (R-NJ) 1997-2005
1996 def. Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Al Gore (D-TN) Ross Perot (P-TX)/Bill Weld (P-ME)
2000 def. Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/John Kerry (D-MA) Jeb Bush (P-FL)/Ron Paul (P-TX)
Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Tom Daschle (D-SD) 2005-2009
2004 def. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Hermann Cain (R-NE)
Lincoln Chaffee (R-RE)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2013
2008 def. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Tom Daschle (D-SD)
Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) 2013-2021
2012 def. Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Fred Thompson (R-TN)
2016 def. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Rick Perry (R-TX) Donald Trump (I-NY)/Fred Karger (I-CA)
Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Andrew Yang (D-NY) 2021-
2020 def. Ben Carson (R-MI)/Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Richard Schweiker (R-PA) 1969-1977
1968 def. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-OH)
1972 def. John Lindsay (D-NY)/Scoop Jackson (D-WA)
Howard Baker (R-TN)/John Heinz (R-PA) 1977-1981
1976 def. Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Birch Bayh (D-IN) 1981-1989
1980 def. Howard Baker (R-TN)/John Heinz (R-PA)
1984 def. John Anderson (R-IL)/Bob Dole (R-KS) George Bush (P-TX)/Donald Rumsfeld (P-IL)
Birch Bayh (D-IN)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1989-1997
1988 def. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA) Pat Robertson(P-VA)/Bill Brock (P-TN)
1992 def. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/John Engler (R-MI) Dick Cheney (P-WY)/Harold Stassen (P-MN)
John McCain (R-AZ)/Christine T. Whitman (R-NJ) 1997-2005
1996 def. Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Al Gore (D-TN) Ross Perot (P-TX)/Bill Weld (P-ME)
2000 def. Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/John Kerry (D-MA) Jeb Bush (P-FL)/Ron Paul (P-TX)
Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Tom Daschle (D-SD) 2005-2009
2004 def. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Hermann Cain (R-NE)
Lincoln Chaffee (R-RE)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2009-2013
2008 def. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Tom Daschle (D-SD)
Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) 2013-2021
2012 def. Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Fred Thompson (R-TN)
2016 def. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Rick Perry (R-TX) Donald Trump (I-NY)/Fred Karger (I-CA)
Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Andrew Yang (D-NY) 2021-
2020 def. Ben Carson (R-MI)/Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Down in the Heart of Texas
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX) 1968-1973
1968 def. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Dan Moore (D-NC) George Wallace (AI-AL)/Happy Chandler (AI-KY)
Ralph Yarborough (D-TX)/Edward Kennedy (D-MA) 1973-1981
1972 def. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX)
1976 def. Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bill Brock (R-TN)
John Connally (R-TX)/Edward Brooke (R-MA) 1981-1989
1980 def. Edward Kennedy (D-MA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1984 def. John Glenn (D-OH)/Ruebin Askew (D-FL)
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 1989-1993
1988 def. Bob Dole (R-KS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Bill Weld (R-MA) 1993-1997
1992 def. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA)
Ann Richards (D-TX)/John Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2005
1996 def. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Bill Weld (R-MA)
2000 def. John McCain (R-AZ)/John Kasich (R-OH)
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2005-2013
2004 def. John Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2008 def. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Tom Vilsack (D-IO)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Deval Patrick (D-MA) 2013-2014
2012 def. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Buddy Roemer (R-LA)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Vacant 2014-2017
2016 def. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Charlie Baker (R-MA) Joe Biden (D-DL)/Lincoln Chaffee (D-RE)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Elizabeth Warren (G-MA) 2017-
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX) 1968-1973
1968 def. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Dan Moore (D-NC) George Wallace (AI-AL)/Happy Chandler (AI-KY)
Ralph Yarborough (D-TX)/Edward Kennedy (D-MA) 1973-1981
1972 def. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX)
1976 def. Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Bill Brock (R-TN)
John Connally (R-TX)/Edward Brooke (R-MA) 1981-1989
1980 def. Edward Kennedy (D-MA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1984 def. John Glenn (D-OH)/Ruebin Askew (D-FL)
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 1989-1993
1988 def. Bob Dole (R-KS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Bill Weld (R-MA) 1993-1997
1992 def. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA)
Ann Richards (D-TX)/John Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2005
1996 def. George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Bill Weld (R-MA)
2000 def. John McCain (R-AZ)/John Kasich (R-OH)
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2005-2013
2004 def. John Kerry (D-MA)/John Edwards (D-NC)
2008 def. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Tom Vilsack (D-IO)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Deval Patrick (D-MA) 2013-2014
2012 def. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Buddy Roemer (R-LA)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Vacant 2014-2017
2016 def. Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Charlie Baker (R-MA) Joe Biden (D-DL)/Lincoln Chaffee (D-RE)
David Cobb (G-TX)/Elizabeth Warren (G-MA) 2017-
@Padric1938 You should have had butterflies keep Rick Perry a Democrat and have him succeed George W. Bush.
@Wendell That would be an interesting timeline, I didn't even know he was ever a democrat!
If I recall correctly, he chaired Gore's 1988 presidential campaign in the state.
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