List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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List of the leaders of the atl British Empire Soviet Union in a pseudo-Timeline I have (does not have any thread, its not a real timeline yet).

Acting Chairman of the Revolutionary Union of Britain:
1. Albert Inkpin, 1920-1928 [1]
2. Harry Pollitt, 1928-1935 [2]
Leaders of the Union of Britannic Syndicalist Commonwealths
3. Harry Pollitt, 1935-1960 [2]
4. John Gollan, 1960-1975 [3]
5. Kenneth Kaunda, 1975-1980 [4]
6. Gordon McLennan, 1980-1983 [5]
7. Bernie Sanders, 1983-1991 [6]
8. Jeremy Corbyn, 1991-1992 [7]

[1] Britain is on the losing side of (an alternate) WW1. Albert Inkpin was the otl leader of the Communist Party of Great Britain in the same time period. He serves as the Lenin analogue.
[2] Another otl leader of CPGB. Stalin analogue. Reorganized the Revolutionary Union into the Britannic Union (At the time consisting of the British Isles, Gambia, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Ghana + Ascension, St Helena and Tristan da Cunha). He also lead UBSC during WW2 (for UBSC it was more like 4 wars. The war against British Empire 1939-1940, the War against Argentina 1941, the war against USA and Mexico 1942-1944, the Second World War proper against Latins (and Yugoslavia) 1944-1945. WW2 proper was 1939-1945 for the actual Allied Powers however)
[3] Another otl leader of CPGB. Khrushchev analogue.
[4] Otl first president of Zambia. Zambia was a part of UBSC from 1947 to 1991 (one of the last to leave), saw West Australian BSC join Loyallist Australia.
[5] Another otl CPGB leader. Presided over some smaller BSCs leaving. Stepped down after reunification of France.
[6] New England was annexed after WW2. Sanders serves as an analogue for Gorbachev. Most of the BSCs left during his time as leader. In 1991 he stepped down as New England declared its independence. Maritimes also left UBSC and joined New England. Zambia and Uganda also left in the same year.
[7] Last leader of UBSC, now reduced to British Isles, South Atlantic Isles and Gibraltar. Ireland would declare independence and he would lead the British Provisional Government until elections could be organised in the Restored United Kingdom of Great Britain. Now leads the Socialist Party of Great Britain, one of three major parties in Britain (the leftiest one). Others are Labour (centre-left) led by Tony Blair and Conservatives (right) led by Boris Johnson.
 
So this is an alternate Presidents and PMs chat but y'all are restricting the time periods from which those, you know, alternate Presidents and PMs come from. Very cool.
I think it's not that you can't use current politicians (based on the other lists here), but you can't have a POD in the OTL current or recent past elections, basically?

Anyway, there's a thread for Current Politics Lists in Chat.
 

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Just a quick little list on if Gerald Ford didn't pardon Nixon. Butterflies are that he narrowly clinches the Rep. nomination and a jealous Reagan forms a third party. I'm only going until the 2000 election.

37th. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew
(20 January, 1969 - 10 October, 1973)

def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (D), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (A Ind.)
def. 1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (replacing Thomas Eagleton) (D)
37th. Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford
(10 October, 1973 - 9 August, 1974)
38th. Gerald Ford / Nelson Rockefeller

(9 August, 1974 - 20 January, 1977)
38th. Gerald Ford / Bob Dole
(20 January, 1977 - 20 January, 1981)

def. 1976: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (D), Ronald Reagan / Ben Fernandez (CV)*
39th. Bob Dole / Howard Baker
(20 January, 1981 - 20 January, 1985)

def. 1980: Ted Kennedy / Ed Muskie (D), John Rarick / Ben Fernandez (CV)
40th. John Glenn / Gary W. Hart
(20 January, 1985 - 12 November, 1987)

def. 1984: Bob Dole / Howard Baker (R)
40th. John Glenn / Joe Biden
(21 July, 1988 - 20 January, 1989)

41st. Howard Baker / Jack Kemp
(20 January, 1989 - 20 January, 1993)

def. 1988: John Glenn / Joe Biden (D)
42nd. Mario Cuomo / Ann Richards
(20 January, 1993 - 20 January, 2000
)

def. 1992: Jack Kemp / Alan Simpson (R), Pat Buchanan / Jack Fellure (CV)
def. 1996: Steve Forbes / Phil Gramm (R), Pat Buchanan / Pat Choate (CV)
43rd. John McCain / Lamar Alexander
(20 January, 2001 - Incumbent)

def. 2000. Ann Richards / Bill Bradley (D)

*Conservative Values Party
EDIT: Switched out Orrin Hatch for John McCain as #43
 
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"America runs on McCarthyism"
1953-1957: Joseph McCarthy*/ J. Edgar Hoover (Republican)

1952: Adlai Stevenson/John Sparkman (Democratic)
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert F. Wagner Jr. (Democratic)

1957-1961: J. Edgar Hoover/ Vacant (Republican)
1961: J. Edgar Hoover*/Richard Nixon (Republican)

1960: Hubert Humphrey/Estes Kefauver (Democratic)
1961-1962: Richard Nixon/Vacant (Republican)
1962-1965: Richard Nixon/George H. Bender (Republican)
1965-1973: John F. Kennedy/ Pat Brown (Democratic)
1964: Richard Nixon/ John W. Byrnes (Republican)
1968: Dewey F. Bartlett/ Clifford P. Chase (Republican) and
George Wallace/Storm Thurmond (American Independent)
1973-1981: Terry Stanford/Mike Gravel (Democratic)

1972: John Tower/John Volpe (D) and George Wallace/A.B. Happy Chandler (American Independent)
1976: John Connally/Eugene McCarthy (Indepdent) and Roger MacBride/Charles Percy (Republican)
1981-1989: Elvis Presley/ Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (American)
1980: Sargent Shriver/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic) and John B. Anderson/Howard Baker (Republican)
1984: Jerry Brown/Walter Fauntroy (Democratic), George H.W. Bush/Phil Crane (Independent), and John Danforth/Charles Mathias (Republican)
1989-1997: Gary Hart/Paul Simon (Democratic)

1988: Lowell P. Weicker Jr./Ron Paul (American) and Donald Rumsfeld/Paul Laxalt (Republican)
1992: Gordon J. Humphrey/Andre Marrou (American)
1997-2005: Vince McMahon/Jesse Jackson (American)

1996: Bill Clinton*/Tom Harkin (Democratic) and Howard Baker/Richard Lugar (New-Age Republican)
2000: Orrin Hatch/Elizabeth Dole (New-Age Republican) and Ralph Nader/Alan Keyes (Democratic)
2005-2009: Jesse Jackson/Steve Forbes (American)

2004: Carol Moseley Braun/Bob Graham (Democratic) and Jesse Ventura/John McCain (New-Age Republican)
2009-2013: Jesse Jackson/Jim Gilmore (American)
2008: Fred Thompson/Cynthia McKinney (New-Age Republican) and Evan Bayh/Bob Barr (Democratic)
2013-2015: Fred Thompson*/Michele Bachmann (New-Age Republican)
2012: Rocky Anderson/Jim Gray (Democratic) and Jim Gilmore/Rick Parry (American)
2015-2017: Michele Bachmann/ Vacant (New-Age Republican)
2017-incumbent: Michele Bachmann/George Pataki (New-Age Republican)
2016: Darrell Castle/Ted Cruz (American) and Gary Johnson/Jim Webb (Democratic)

1. Successfully impeached from office
2. Assassinated
3. Even if he won, Bill Clinton would've had to resign due to his numerous sexual assault allegations.
4. Died in Office


I don't really have a write up yet, I may go back and write one some time.
 
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New Deal Forever
Franklin D. Roosevelt - 1933-1949 (Democrat)
George Marshall - 1949-1957 (Democrat)
Averell Harriman - 1957-1965 (Democrat)
Richard Nixon - 1965-1973 (Republican)
Henry M. Jackson - 1973-1981 (Democrat)
Ted Kennedy - 1981-1989 (Democrat)
Michael Dukakis- 1989-1993 (Democrat)
George H.W. Bush - 1993-2001 (Republican)
Donald Trump - 2001-2009 (Democrat)

*This is timeline is VERY loosely based off the Republican Party's dominance of American politics after the Civil War.*
 
The American Commonwealth

The US adopts a system of governance that of a hybrid between the Austrian hegemony of the Holy Roman empire and the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. Alexander Hamilton is elected as Emperor of the Commonwealth, and a political ally of Hamilton, General Nicholas Fish, takes control as the King of the Kingdom of New York

House of Fish (1788-Present)

1. Nicholas I | July 26, 1788 - June 20, 1833 (44 years, 329 days)
2. Hamilton I | June 20, 1833 - September 7, 1893 (60 years, 79 days)
3. Nicholas II | September 7, 1893 - September 16, 1902 (9 years, 9 days)
4. Hamilton II | September 16, 1902 - January 15, 1936 (33 years, 120 days)
5. Hamilton III | January 15, 1936 - January 18, 1991 (55 years, 3 days)
6. Hamilton IV | January 18, 1991 - July 23, 1996 (5 years, 187 days)
7. Hamilton V | July 23, 1996 - Present (23 years, 172 days)


Hamilton V (September 5, 1952 - Present) has been the King of New York since 1996. Hamilton V has made efforts to promote nonpartisanism in politics and advancing performance art education in schools. He is seen as a quite unpopular king, mainly due to his association with the forgettable Prime Minister Bloomberg, his constant squabbles with PM Cuomo, and fairly recent allegations of sexual harassment being made against the monarch. Many have called for Hamilton's abdication, previously in favor of his deceased brother Nicholas (September 30, 1958 - January 2, 2020), but the calls for his abdication have since fizzled since Nicholas's death, as there looks to be a succession crisis in the future of the Kingdom. Who knows, the Fish dynasty may be in jeopardy.

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Hamilton V, King of New York
 
Probably has been done many times before but this is my crack at Canadian prime ministers to U.S presidents:
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower/ Richard Nixon 1953-1961
35. Dean Acheson/ John F. Kennedy 1961-1969
36. John F. Kennedy/John Connolly 1969-1979

37. John Rhodes/Vacant 1979-1981
38. John F. Kennedy/John Connolly 1981-1984
38. John F. Kennedy/Vacant 1984
38. John F. Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen 1984

39. Lloyd Bentsen/Vacant 1984
39. Lloyd Bentsen/Walter Mondale 1984-1985

40. John B. Anderson/Ann Dore McLaughin 1985-1992
41. Ann Dore McLaughin/Vacant 1992-1993

42. Walter Mondale 1993-2005
43. Jim DeMint/Vacant 2005-2017
44. John F Kennedy Jr./Vacant 2017-2021
44. John F Kennedy Jr./Susan Rice 2021-?

Please give feedback, there are probably better analogs than this.
 
Floyde B Olson 33-38 - Progressive *
Huey Long 1938-54 - Radical Populist *
Henry Wallace 54-61 - Radical Populist
Norman Thomas 61-69 - Socialist
Elliot Roosevelt 69-1977 - Republican
Joseph McCarthy 77-79 - Conservative ^_*
Ronald Reagan 79-81 - Conservative ^_*
Donald Rumsfield 81-81 - America First Party
Martin Luther King Jr 81-93 - Socialist
Bernie Sanders 93-05 - Socialist
Brian T. Carol 05-13 - Distributism Now!
Joe Biden 13-17 - New Liberal Party
Alexandria Occazio Cortez 17-25 - New Democratic Party

* means died in office
^_* means impeached.
 
Downside to me being sick: a day of being unable to eat solid food without throwing up, having to cancel my sub job with a teacher I actually once had
Upside to me being sick: I came up with the idea for this
Generic Alternate Presidents List 1933-
Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner 1933-1941
Franklin D. Roosevelt/Someone Other Than Wallace or Truman 1941-1945
Someone Other Than Wallace or Truman/vacant 1945-1949

Thomas Dewey or Robert Taft/Member of the Other Political Wing 1949-1953
Moderate Democrat/Dixiecrat Politician 1953-1961
Dixiecrat Politician/Northern Sellout 1961-1965

Acceptably Progressive Republican/Moderate Republican 1965-1973
Conservative Republican/Different Moderate Republican 1973-1977

Beloved Liberal Icon/Less Likeable VP 1977-1985
Less Likeable VP/Token Minority 1985-1989

Grimdark Serial Killer, Cult Leader or Extremist/Level-Headed Lieutenant 1989-1995 (Impeached)
Level-Headed Lieutenant/vacant 1995-1997

Random Celebrity/Established Politician 1997-2005
Unlucky Republican/Their Running Mate 2005-2009
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 2009-2017
A Democrat/Another One 2017-2021

Female or Minority Republican/Old White Republican Centrist 2021-
 
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