List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Yurs. I wouldn't put it past the IPP having support in Irish communities on the mainland. In particularly bad years for the Liberals, prior to the rise of the SDF, the IPP could be quite big in places like Liverpool and Birmingham.

So you mean that there could be more Liverpool Scotlands on the mainland!? :eek: Very interesting, so they could perhaps get even more seats than Parnell in 1885! :eek:
 
Uhura's Mazda - Trollopepunk
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1875-1876: Plantagenet Palliser, 7th Duke of Omnium (Liberal-Conservative Coalition)
1876-1880: Sholto Drummond, 13th Earl Drummond (Conservative)
1880-1884: William Gresham (Liberal)
1884-1886: Maccabeus Daubeny (Conservative)
1886-1890: William Gresham (Liberal)
1890-1893: Sir Orlando Drought (Conservative)
1893-1900: Sir Phineas Finn (Liberal)
1900-1904: Fitzgerald Stanningfield, Viscount Stanningfield (Conservative)
1904-1906: Sir Januarius Bude, 8th Baronet (Conservative)
1906-1906: Inigo Ismay (Liberal)
1906-1911: Horatio Prendergast-Smythe (Consevative)
1911-1919: Sir Vere Qualmingham (Liberal)
1919-1923: Manuel Veracruz (Dastardly, leading Conservative Government)
1923-1928: Xavier O'Shaughnessy (Flawed Conservative)
1928-1930: Avaricius Quinine, Earl of Clanranald (Flawed Conservative)
1930-1933: Oswald Knatchbull (Acceptable Conservative, later Conservative)
1933-1938: Laszlo Yerevan (Liberal)
1938-1939: Sir Adolphus Hittler (Liberal)
1939-1947: Terence Mackay, 5th Lord Lonsdale (Conservative)
1947-1948: Lord Harold Hartington (Liberal)
1948-1956: Hercules Doidge (Liberal)
1956-1970: Sir Ernest Fortune (Liberal)
 
Mumby - blame shifty
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1929-1935: Ramsay MacDonald (Labour majority)
1935-1937: Stanley Baldwin (Unionist-Centre Coalition)
1937-1940: Neville Chamberlain (Centre with Unionist and Liberal confidence and supply)
1940-1945: Winston Churchill (United Front of Centre, Unionists and Liberals)
1945-1951: Clement Attlee (Labour majority)
 
Uhura's Mazda - Tim Farron's 2020 Vision
2010-2015: David Cameron (Conservative-Liberal Democrat Coalition)
2010 def: Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015-2016: David Cameron (Conservative)
2015 def: Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2016-2020: Theresa May (Conservative)
2020-2022: Tim Farron (2020 Vision (comprising Liberal Democrats, Green Parties, SNP, Plaid Cymru, SDLP, Alliance, National Health Action, Women's Equality, Animal Welfare))
2020 def: Theresa May (Conservative), Jeremy Corbyn (Labour)
2022-2025: Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat-Conservative Coalition)
2025-2030: Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)

2025 def: David Miliband (Conservative), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Eddie Izzard (National Health Action), Ian Lavery (Labour)
2030-2031: Tim Farron (United Neoliberal Party)
2030 def: Douglas Carswell (Independents Party), Seb Corbyn (Labour)
2031-2031: Tim Farron (Anti-Apocalypse PaOH BLOODY HELL IS THAT A)
 

Japhy

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I swear to God I'm going to start making flow charts and rules for this thread that I have no authority over if you kids don't stop skateboarding on the sidewalk and posting lists without details or footnotes.
 
EricSandwich - France as America Analogue
French Presidents analogous to US presidents

Vincent Auriol - SFIO (1947-1952)
Charles DuGaulle - UNR (1952-1960)
-Fourth republic does not collapse and Algerian crisis somewhat mitigated. However it does propel Gaillard and Mitterand's socialists into power.
Félix Gaillard - PS (1960-1963)
-Assassinated

Francois Mitterand - PS (1963-1968)
Robert Boulin - UDR (1968-1973)
-Resigned under real-estate scandal
Alain Peyrefitte - UDR (1973-1976)
Georges Bidault - MRP (1976-1980)

-Leader of centrist Christian democrats. Elected as a compromise, soon disliked by both Gaullists and Socialists
Jacques Chirac - RPR (1980-1988)
Valéry Giscard d'Estaing - RPR (1988-1992)

Dominique Strauss-Kahn - PS (1992-2000)

-Center left government under cloud of perpetual sex scandals.
Henri Giscard d'Estaing - UMP (2000-2008)
-Businessman and son of first d'estaing without much political experience. Joined "coalition of the willing" into Iraq, over objections of most of the country
Arnaud Montebourg - PS (2008-2016)
-Of Arab descent. Dogged by the conspiracy theory that he is a secret Islamist agent after the 2015 Paris attacks.
Gerard Depardieu - FN (2016-)
Actor recruited by Marine Le Pen. Defeated center-right Louis Giscard d'Estaing and socialist Segolene Royale in a stunning upset. Many former UMP members defected to his side but privately stress over his inexperience and dramatic mood swings.
 
natemamate - Presidents of Illinois

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Alternate Presidents of Illinois
Kevin McCallister/Alex Pruitt (1995-3:00 2000) Pro Trap Party
Harry Lime/Marv Merchants (3:00 2000-3:30 2000) Anti Trap Party
Kevin McCallister/Alex Pruitt (3:30 2000-2006) Pro Trap Party
Doug Walker/Rob Walker (2006-Now) New Illinois Party
 
Nofix - Tommy J Dies, 1803
Here's my first real contribution to the thread. Nothing really outlandish, but I did try and throw in some interesting ideas.

1801-1803: Thomas Jefferson/Aaron Burr (Republican)

1800: John Adams/Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist)
*1803-1805: Aaron Burr/vacant (Republican) [Acting] [1]
1805-1808: George Clinton/John Breckenridge (Republican) [2]
1804: Charles C. Pinckney/Rufus King (Federalist), Aaron Burr/various (Independent) [3]
*1808-1809: George Clinton/vacant (Republican) [4]
1809-1813: John Marshall/James Ross (Federalist) [5]
1808: George Clinton/William Few (Republican), James Madison/various ("True" Republicans), James Monroe/various ("
Democratic" Republicans)
1813-1821: John Carlyle Herbert/Othniel Looker (Republican) [6]
1812: John Marshall/James Ross (Federalist), DeWitt Clinton/John Paul (dissident electoral votes from an Indianan Republican)
1816: James Ross/John Holmes (Federalist)
1821-18??: DeWitt Clinton/Isaac Shelby (Republican) [7]
1820: Reuben Humphrey/Robert Goodloe Harper (Federalist)


[1] The second constitutional crisis in three years came about as a result of the death of President Thomas Jefferson on August 12, 1803 due to a long illness. This left the unpopular Aaron Burr as the true President (as he and his supporters claimed), or as a mere caretaker (as his many opponents claimed). What little sympathy and support Burr has was quickly squandered, and his role as President was heavily scrutinized, and faced impeachment attempts as he fired most of his cabinet and attempted to nominate his own men to replace the exiled men.

[2] The Republican Congressional Caucus chose New York Governor George Clinton over Secretary of State Madison, one of the men who was forced out of his position by Burr. Burr himself received a pitiful amount of support among the ballots, placing dead last. Clinton mostly continued Jefferson's policies, but favored more diplomatic measures with Britain, compared to the more forceful demands of the Republicans who chose him due to his age and (presumed) compliance toward Congress. Clinton would establish himself as far more independent of his party then his initial supporters had hoped.

[3] Unswayed by his lack of support among the Congressional Republicans, Burr attempted to use the office of President as a means to assemble a new party, with the primary issue of electing him. It failed, drawing the support of only a minority of Republicans and an infinitesimal amount of Federalists (who mainly supported him as a means of further dividing the Republicans).

[4] Breckenridge's death in office spelled a blow to the west's power, as their man had died. Many of them were divided as to which Republican to support as his replacement

[5] Although the Federalists were a perpetual minority even during the long spell of Republican infighting, they managed to exploit divisions in 1812 to ensure the election of Chief Justice John Marshall. The Republicans divided into three factions, Clintonians, who supported the Republican President and managed to narrowly renominate the sickly old man; Madisonians, who opposed him and preferred the former Secretary of State as President; and finally Monroenians, who disliked Clinton, Madison, and the Congressional Nominating Caucus.

Marshall's tenure would be considered the zenith of early Anglo-American relations, as he kept America out of "the European War". Little was accomplished during his tenure, the Republican's still holding an ever-growing majority in Congress.

[6] As Marshall feared, a united Republican Party emerged and defeated him. The relatively unknown Maryland Governor John Caryle Herbert was chosen by the new "Republican National Convention", after Madison and Monroe both took themselves out of the contest. He was the first President since Washington to serve two whole terms, under which the nation expanded to the west, and the economy grew. He easily won re-election in 1816 as a popular, moderate figure who fostered support from all sections.

[7] As the Federalists largely contracted to its Northeastern position, the Republicans expanded to the point where they were their own biggest enemies. Populists versus elitists, laborers versus slaveowners, and so on. While the nephew of George Clinton easily sailed to victory, he sat upon a party ready to break apart on any number of divisive issues.

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Don't really like how this on turned out, a little too similar to OTL. I do like the names I snuck in. Tell me if they're familiar. ;)
 
I swear to God I'm going to start making flow charts and rules for this thread that I have no authority over if you kids don't stop skateboarding on the sidewalk and posting lists without details or footnotes.
My first one on this page was a stylistic parody of a nineteenth century author. What would you even gain from footnotes?
 

shiftygiant

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1929-1935: Ramsay MacDonald (Labour majority)
1935-1937: Stanley Baldwin (Unionist-Centre Coalition)
1937-1940: Neville Chamberlain (Centre with Unionist and Liberal confidence and supply)
1940-1945: Winston Churchill (United Front of Centre, Unionists and Liberals)
1945-1951: Clement Attlee (Labour majority)
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Turquoise Blue - Prime Ministers in America
William McKinley (Conservative majority) 1898-1903*
1898 (maj.): def. William Randolph Hearst (Liberal), William Jennings Bryan (Populist)
1902 (maj.): def. William Randolph Hearst (Liberal), Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive), William Jennings Bryan (Populist)
Alton Parker (Conservative majority) 1903-1907
1905 (maj.): def. Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-Progressive), William Jennings Bryan (Populist)
William Howard Taft (Liberal-Progressive majority) 1907-1909*
1907 (maj.): def. Alton Parker (Conservative), William Jennings Bryan (Populist), Victor L. Berger (Social Democratic)
Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-Progressive majority, then minority) 1909-1911
Woodrow Wilson (Conservative-"True" Progressive coalition) 1911-1916
1911 (coal.): def. Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-Progressive), Hiram Johnson ("True" Progressive), Victor L. Berger (Social Democratic), Jack London (Socialist Labor)
1915 (coal.): def. Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-Progressive), Hiram Johnson ("True" Progressive), Meyer London (Social Democratic), Jack London (Socialist Labor)
Jack Pershing (Nonpartisan wartime "Ministry of All Talents") 1916-1919
Leonard Wood (Nonpartisan "Ministry of All Talents" supported by Conservatives, Coalition Liberals, Progressives, National Socialists) 1919-1924

1919 (coal.): def. William McAdoo (Conservative), Robert La Follette (Social Democratic), Theodore Roosevelt (Coalition Liberal), Hiram Johnson (Progressive), (Independent Liberal), (Independent Conservative), W. English Walling (National Socialist), Jack London (Socialist Labor)
Carter Glass (Liberal-Progressive coalition, then United Liberal majority) 1924-1929
1924 (coal.): def. Calvin Coolidge (Conservative), Burton Wheeler (Social Democratic), Theodore Roosevelt (National Liberal), Hiram Johnson (Progressive), (Independent Conservative), (Constitution), (Independent Liberal), Jack London (Socialist Labor), (American Values)
Charles Dawes (Conservative majority) 1929-1931
1929 (maj.): def. George Norris (Social Democratic), Carter Glass (United Liberal), Alfred Wagenknecht (Communist), William Pelley (Shieldbearers')
Jackson Wilson (Social Democratic-United Liberal coalition) 1931-1935
1931 (coal.): def. William Pelley (Shieldbearers'), Alfred Wagenknecht (Communist), Franklin Roosevelt (United Liberal), Charles Dawes (Conservative)
Smedley Butler (Nonpartisan civil-wartime "Ministry of All Talents" supported by Social Democrats, United Liberals, Conservatives) 1935-1943
1935 (coal.): def. William Pelley (Shieldbearers'), Jackson Wilson (Social Democratic), John Reed (Communist), Al Smith (United Liberal), Alf Landon (Conservative)
Harry Truman (United Liberal leading transitional government, then United Liberal-Conservative-Social Democratic "tripartisan coalition") 1943-1950
1945 (coal.): def. Thomas Dewey (Conservative), Henry Wallace (Social Democratic), Harry Byrd (States' Rights), Robert Taft (True Conservative)
Thomas Dewey (Conservative-Social Democratic-United Liberal "tripartisan coalition") 1950-1955
1950 (coal.): def. Wayne Morse (Social Democratic), Harry Truman (United Liberal), Styles Bridges (Freedom)
Wayne Morse (Social Democratic-United Liberal coalition) 1955-1959
1955 (coal.): def. Thomas Dewey (Conservative), Styles Bridges (Freedom), Adlai Stevenson (United Liberal)
Jack Kennedy (United Liberal-Social Democratic coalition) 1959-1963

1959 (coal.): def. Richard Nixon (Conservative), Wayne Morse (Social Democratic), Barry Goldwater (Freedom)
Richard Nixon (Conservative majority, then Conservative-Social Democratic-United Liberal "tripartisan coalition", then Conservative-Southern Independent coalition, then Conservative majority, then Conservative minority) 1963-1975
1963 (maj.): def. Jack Kennedy (United Liberal), Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), Barry Goldwater (Freedom)
1967 (coal.): def. Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), George Wallace (Southern Independent), Nelson Rockefeller (United Liberal)
1969 (coal.): def. Hubert Humphrey (Social Democratic), George Wallace (Southern Independent), Nelson Rockefeller (United Liberal)
1974 (maj.): def. Edmund Muskie (Social Democratic), George Wallace (Southern Independent), Jerry Brown (United Liberal)
George Romney (Conservative minority) 1975-1976
Edmund Muskie (Social Democratic-United Liberal-Christian Reform coalition) 1976-19??
1976 (coal.): def. Gerald Ford (Conservative), Jerry Brown (United Liberal), George Wallace (Southern Independent), Dale Bumpers (Christian Reform)

Hmm... I could go further, but tbh, this is as far as I can go without pushing it too far.
 
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Jonathan - You won't have me to take shoots at anymore.
My first (of hopefully many to come) on this new list of Alternative Prime Ministers and Presidents

You won't have me to take shoots at anymore.

1969: Spiro Agnew / Vacant (Republican) [1]
1968: Hubert H. Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (Democrat) , George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1969 - 1973: Spiro Agnew / Ronald Reagan (Republican) [2]
1972: Eugene McCarthy / Terry Sanford (Democrat) , Thomas J. Anderson / Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
1973 - 1974: Ronald Reagan / Vacant (Republican)
[3]
1974 - 1981: Ronald Reagan / Gerald Ford (Republican) [4]
1976: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (Democrat)
1981 - 1989: Jerry Brown / Joe Biden (Democrat) [5]
1980: Gerald Ford / Bob Dole (Republican)
1984: John B. Anderson / John Connally (Republican)

1989 - 1993: Joe Biden / Sam Nunn (Democrat) [6]
1988: Bob Dole / Pat Buchanan (Republican)
1993 - 2001:
George H. W. Bush / Richard Cheney (Republican) [7]
1992: Joe Biden / Sam Nunn (Democrat)
1996: Albert Gore / Harry Reid (Democrat)
2001 - 2005:
John Kerry / Bob Kerrey (Democrat) [8]
2000: Newt Gingrich/ Trent Lott (Republican)
2004: George W. Bush / Rick Santorum (Republican)
2009 - 2013: John McCain / John E. Sununu (Republican)
[9]
2008: Bill Clinton / John Edwards (Democrat)
2013 - 2021: John Kasich / Barbara Boxer (Democrat)
[10]
2012: John McCain / John E. Sununu (Republican)
2016: Mike Huckabee / Rick Perry (Repuclican)
2021 - ????: Barbara Boxer / Bernie Sanders (Democrat)
[11]
2020: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican)

[1] President-Elect Richard Nixon, is assassinated on November 22nd, (exactly six years after John F. Kennedy), by Yemeni immigrant, Ahmed Namer, 43, and his two sons, Hussein, 20, and Abdo, 19. [P.o.D. being the three assassins, don't try and include a fourth man, who would grass on them]
Leaving Vice-President Elect, Spiro Agnew to take over the presidency, as the 37th President of the United States of America, becoming the highest-ranking US political office ever reached by either a Greek-American or a Marylander.
[2] During a long meeting with prominent Republicans, it was decided that California Governor Ronald Reagan, the leader of the Republican Party's conservative would be the best fit for the office of Vice Presidency.
[3] On October 10, 1973, Spiro Agnew, resigned from the presidency following investigated by the United States Attorney for the District of Maryland on charges of extortion, tax fraud, bribery, and conspiracy, he would later be charged with having accepted bribes totaling more than $100,000 while holding office as Baltimore County Executive and Governor of Maryland. It is believed that Agnew, asked for Reagan to pardon him, on grounds of compassion, however Reagan denied him of this on grounds that it would not show good faith in the presidency if the highest office of the land wasn't held to count by the laws and courts that govern the land.
Ronald Reagan was sworn into office in the Oval Office, later that day.
[4] Under the terms of the 25th Amendment, following the resignation of President Spiro Agnew and succession of Ronald Reagan, Reagan needed to pick a vice president and decided on picking House Minority Leader, Gerald Ford, who had a strong presence in the House of Representatives, having served since 1949.
Reagan was able to win a second term, defeating Georgia Governor, Jimmy Carter, but was limited to this final term due to the Twenty-Second Amendment.
[5] California Governor, Jerry Brown, was seen as the central platform of the 1980 Democratic Convention and gained full support.
[6] Vice President Joe Biden succeeded to the office of President with ease, ridding on the tailcoat of Brown's economical success.
[7
] Joe Biden's term was not as successful, leading to George H. W. Bush, winning a large landslide. Bush went onto help the dismantlement of the USSR and gained the noble price for his dedication.
[8] The next 12 years would be know as ''The Presidencies of two Military Johns." First was John Kerry of Massachusetts.
[9] John McCain, was the second Military John, carrying on the strong military but changed policy of putting soldiers on the floor in the Middle East
[10] Due to not being inspired by Nixon, John Kasich, joins the Democrats and enters politics as a successful
orator in both houses before becoming Governor of Ohio. The Governor choose former senate colleague from California, Barbara Boxer as running mate, making her a the first female vice president.
[11] Being the first female vice president was just the start for Barbara Boxer, who went on to become the first female President, easily defeating bigoted, Donald Trump.
 
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Asami

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Though you do have a point to be made about context. :p
 
I am thinking of doing a Confederate victory list wherein Reality Ensues (at least IMO) - Texas is independent again within a decade or so and the rest of the CSA slowly drifts apart, with perhaps a few of the Northern Confederate states drifting to the point wherein they declare independence, and maybe even a few generations after that they voluntarily rejoin the USA leaving a rump CSA of the Deep South.

Besides that, I'd like to compile a list of leaders from Glen's Dominion of Southern America TL.
 
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