List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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There. Changed back by *ahem* everyone shitting themselves and forming a lynch mob popular demand.

I wouldn't characterize people criticizing unilaterally changing the name of a thread whose original started in 2010 with no warning or input beforehand as "shitting themselves and forming a lynch mob".
 

Asami

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I wouldn't characterize people criticizing unilaterally changing the name of a thread whose original started in 2010 with no warning or input beforehand as "shitting themselves and forming a lynch mob".

Point taken. I'll be over here once again, reminding myself why I shouldn't talk very much.
 
BlackentheBorg - Power to the People
Power to the People
[Working Title: Preen for Eugene/Don't Dally For Carey/a Bad Case of HeartBern]

1. 1969 - 1977: Hubert Humphrey†/Eugene McCarthy
Ronald Reagan/Clarke Reed, George Wallace/Curtis Lemay
Howard Baker/Erwin Griswold
2. 1977 - 1981: Eugene McCarthy/George McGovern
Claude Kirk Jr./Dewey Bartlett
3. 1981 - 1985: Charles Mathias/Edward Madigan
George McGovern/John C. Stennis
4. 1985 - 1993: Hugh Carey/Ralph Yarborough
[incumbents]
Edward Madigan/George H.W. Bush
5. 1993 - 1997: John Chafee†/William P. Rogers
Tim Wirth/Robert P. Casey
6. 1997 - 2001: Ralph Nader/Maurice Hinchey
Robert Kasten/Harry R. Haldeman
7. 2001 - 2005: Ross Perot/Alex 'Sandy' Treadwell
[incumbents]
8. 2005 - 2007: Julia Carson†/Bernie Sanders
[incumbents]
9. 2007 - 2013: Bernie Sanders/Paul Wellstone
Jim Inhofe/Gary Bauer
10. 2013 - 2021: Luis Fortuno/John Boehner
Paul Wellstone/Buddy MacKay
Ray Mabus/Mary Barra
11. 2021 - : Coleman Young II/Julie A. Genter
Jon Huntsman, Jr./Bob Ehrlich

1. "...our future generation has made their voice heard, and it is a matter of fact that the War in Veitnam must meet a quick end..."
2. "...I'm of the frank opinion that thinking that making sure Americans high and low are fed, clothed and insured is a 'purely communist venture', as they call it, need to take another look at their priorities..."
3. "...the war is over, but the battle for control of the beaten path is one which requires our full attention, as the unified nation I know we can be..."
4. "...caring a great deal about people is what our party is all about. It is what both parties, all parties, should be about. Caring should not remain a partisan issue..."
5. "...we call our position 'Compassionate Conservatism', folks, which I think is very apt...."
6. "...the function of leadership is to produce more leaders, not more followers..."
7. "...no more beatin' around the bush -- our industries will be at the forefront once again. We will strive to put American businesses at the tip top of the world's best..."
8. "...we have been so busy, going round, trying to fix our companies and factories, that we've seem to forgotten about the people; the men and women who try and keep our country running so smoothly..."
9. "...the Revolution was never in us -- it was in you all -- the voters, the working class, the beaten down and forgotten Americans who made this happen..."
10. "...I want it made clear that in these times of Economic Crisis, there will need to be certain sacrifices for the greater good..."
11. "'...the People have spoken, and they want to turn the page and start a new chapter..."
 
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Uhura's Mazda - List of Lords Protector of the SS Uhura's Mazda

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2010-2013:
Razors are for Fish (Founder - Thread Creator)
2010: (Government of All Talents with Good Lists, Shitposts and The Mods) def - The Child of Anne Boleyn had she married Napoleon III (Before 1900)
2013-2014: Japhy (Sensibleness, Moderation and Good Formatting)
2013: (Coalition with Originality/Phresh Alliance and The Mods) def - Effort (Full Length TLs), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Shitposts)
2014-2015: Uhura's Mumby (Phresh Memes)
2014: (Coalition with Good Formatting (Brought to you by Japhy) and The Mods) def - Also Japhy (Moderation and Sensibleness), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Trolling)
2015-2017: Uhura's Mumbisariolian (Phrosty Phresh Memes for AH Teens)
2015: (Coalition with Sensibless, Moderation and Good Formatting Reunited, Free Ulster Unionist, Non-Anglo Lists and The Mods) def - PERSON YOU DISLIKE (The Mounting Presence of Low Effort Lists)
2017-0000: PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Bad Lists)
2017: (Coalition with The New Name, Richard Nixon, Other Things You Dislike and Implausibility) def - Good Posts (The Thread)

(Note this is tongue in cheek, if anyone is offended I will alter it of course, but it is just meant as a joke)
WHY WAS I NOT PREVIOUSLY AWARE OF THIS

HAVE SOME THANKS IN THE FORM OF A SCI-FI LIST

List of Lords Protector of the SS Uhura's Mazda

2935-2944: Captain Harry Randomhouse (Officers' Party) [1]

2135 def: Clotworthy Skeffington (Aliens Exist!), Keir Skipwith (Ratings' Front)
2140 def: Leonard De Vere (Aliens Exist!), Keir Skipwith (Ratings' Front), Maeve Poliakos (UNFREEZE)

2944-2945: Lieutenant Gideon Fortnum (Officers' Party) [2]
2945-2948: Nassau Powlett (Aliens Exist!) † [3]

2145 def: Lieutenant Gideon Fortnum (Officers' Party), Maeve Skipwith (The Masses)
2948-2950: Maeve Skipwith (Military) [4]

[1] - When the SS Uhura's Mazda was sent on its inaugural spaceflight in 2143, it attracted almost no attention. It was one of a fleet of 90,000 ships sent out by NASA and ESA to try to search for any alien life that may exist. Almost two centuries of building bigger and better radio telescopes had returned nothing but a few signals that could have been anything. Finally, President Yannick Trump III threatened to close down the space agency unless it could find something useful and vaguely cost-effective to do with the entirety of the cosmos. The response was to use the last of the funding available to send out thousands of very basic spaceships in every possible direction - crewed with humans for the first time, in the hope that their adaptability and initiative would be helpful in some way. In each ship, thousands of alleged volunteers were frozen in the hold, while a crew of several hundred guided the systems that would keep these volunteers alive and the ship in a state of good repair. The name, apparently, was taken from a minor forum personality of the early 21st century, because when you're building 90,000 things you've got to give names to, you end up scraping the barrel surprisingly quickly.

Eight hundred years later, the SS Uhura's Mazda had devolved into a hereditary system, where the children of Officers went on to become Officers and the children of Silage Maintenance Operatives went on to become Silage Maintenance Operatives. It was a ship more reminiscent of Qing China than a modern community. Worst of all, the descendants of Xavier Randomhouse, the first Captain, had seen fit to only breed among themselves, to prevent base blood from intermingling with their own sort. The result of this was the birth of Captain Harry Randomhouse, who (despite being mythologised in the official histories, discovered millennia later by the HMSS Meadow) was so inbred he could barely breathe, let alone think.

Naturally, with this man (nicknamed 'Joao' for unclear reasons) at the helm, the SS Uhura's Mazda crashed into a planet.

And it was decided by the Officers of the ship that since they were not in space anymore, they should probably introduce democracy of some sort. Although of course votes in the Wardroom Floterial Constituency counted for ten times as much as a vote from one of the Ratings constituencies. Captain Randomhouse's supporters won the first election by a landslide, going on to commission the building of some rudimentary shelters on the desolate planet (imaginatively called 'the SS Uhura's Mazda') and expand the hydroponic scheme that already existed on board the ship.

[2] - The main Opposition Party on the new planet was not, as had been expected, the left-wing Ratings' Front, but the frankly odd Aliens Exist! group. This was a sort of underground religion which had spread - largely among the Ratings but with several Officer supporters as well - in defiance at the increasingly overwhelming evidence that the Universe was completely empty apart from rock and fire and dust. Their influence waxed after democratisation allowed them to worship openly with the sacred Star Trek DVDs, and in 2944 they were powerful enough to mount a public sacrifice of Captain Randomhouse (who was reportedly not keen on the idea, although the fact that he had 312 teeth, not all of which were in his mouth, made it hard to decipher whether or not he consented to the ritual) while non-Believers looked on in horror. He was followed by the much less inbred Lieutenant Fortnum, whose patrician ways did not appeal to the electorate. Randomhouse, of course, had not had children, and out of a sense of respect (and also the claim from Aliens Exist! that he was still alive in a way on his own planet full of aliens or something) the now-ceremonial post of Captain was left vacant in perpetuity. Fortnum carried out the Parliamentary term but lost in 2945 against the surging Aliens Exist! Believers.

[3] - Nassau Powlett, the third leader of the Aliens Exist! religion/Party after the previous two had been sacrificed and eaten after losing elections, reacted to his victory with more relief than ebullience. He had been elected on a platform of searching the entire planet for anything - even a long-dead microbe - that would lend credence to belief in Aliens, and also to extend the limited hydroponics and terraforming programmes of the Randomhouse-Fortnum Governments in the hope that the Aliens would be in some way pleased. But after three years, Faith was beginning to wane after the last crater had been examined by the Searchers and been found to be more lifeless than a Cornish nightclub.

Now, while the Alienists had been grabbing the headlines over the last decade or so, the Ratings' Front had merged with a splinter from the Officers' Party led by former Petty Officer Maeve Poliakos (later Skipwith when she married the leader of the Ratings' Front). This splinter, called UNFREEZE - which everybody assumed wrongly to be a contrived acronym - campaigned on the issue of waking up the frozen volunteers who had been loaded into the hold upon embarkation over 800 years previously. The reasons for this were two-fold: firstly, it was hoped that if they switched the freezers off, that would mean that fewer people would need to be permanently locked into the Treadmills to provide energy to power the freezers (most of the solar generators had fallen into disrepair in the 2500s under Captain Inigo 'Coal Not Sole...ar' Randomhouse); and secondly, that it was probably a Human Rights issue.

[4] - As Lord Protector Powlett was suffering in the polls, he hatched another grand scheme - he would himself set off to explore the only unexplored part of the planet 'The SS Uhura's Mazda'. This unexplored part, it transpired, was a mysterious system of caves under the surface, which Powlett proposed to check for any evidence of Alien life - it was the last-ditch attempt to find anything in this Godforsaken Universe which was worth the bother of leaving Earth for. Anyway, to cut a long story short, Powlett's belaying rope snapped before he hit the bottom of the first shaft, and all onlookers were rather shaken by this.

Maeve Skipwith was the first to react, announcing that she was now in control of the planet and that she would immediately de-gerrymander the electoral boundaries and, more importantly, wake up the thousands of people frozen in the hold. This she did, and much to her horror, it turned out that they were all heavily armed soldiers.

The space agencies had only received the funding to send these ships out as long as the Military-Industrial Complex could contribute, viz. by exterminating any alien life discovered by the ships in order to demonstrate to potential clients the murderous quality of Colt .500 Raygun.

Anyway, because all these soldiers were men, and hadn't gotten laid in centuries, this naturally led to a civil war among the people of the SS Uhura's Mazda, and they all died within the next two horrific years.

But the plants they grew in that virgin soil did not.
 
I rather liked the new name, actually, but if it's been changed back I suppose it's changed back. Can I still put lists that aren't of Presidents or Prime Ministers here, or should I create a new thread for them?
 
I think the biggest problem with the change was that it was done unilaterally and without consulting the members of the thread. Having made the thread yourself (despite the fact we had broadly agreed TB should do so) doesn't make you it's absolute ruler.
 

Asami

Banned
Whatever, let's move on. I'm already unpopular enough as it is, I'm not going to get into another pissing match about it. I reversed it, it's done.
 

Japhy

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Whatever, let's move on. I'm already unpopular enough as it is, I'm not going to get into another pissing match about it. I reversed it, it's done.
I'm literally one of the least liked people on the site, most people just don't know who you are. You're fine. Don't make a scene out of it.
 
I rather liked the new name, actually, but if it's been changed back I suppose it's changed back. Can I still put lists that aren't of Presidents or Prime Ministers here, or should I create a new thread for them?
You can do it. The new name was just awful
 
Cevolian - KILLING THE UNION WITH KINDNESS
KILLING THE UNION WITH KINDNESS;
"Our aim is, quite clearly, to dissolve the remains of the bourgeois federation that a generation of reactionaries has produced and create a truly "national" state" - Robert Blatchford at the National Populist Convention, 1916

1874-1884:
Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative)
1874: (Majority) Def: William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal), Isaac Butt (Home Rule League)
1880: (Coalition with Home Rule League) def - Spencer Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington (Liberal)

1884-1886: Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal-Unionist Conservative Coalition)
1886-1898: Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal)
1886: (Coalition with Unionist Conservatives) def - Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative), Charles Stewart Parnell (Nationalist), Charles Dilke (Radical Liberal)
1898-1904: Randolph Churchill (Conservative)
1898: (Minority Coalition with Radicals Liberals with Nationalist Confidence and Supply) def - Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal), Charles Stewart Parnell (Nationalist)
1904-1905: Herbert Asquith (Liberal)
1904: (Coalition with Unionist Conservatives) def - Randolph Churchill (Conservative/Radical Liberal), John Redmond ("Mainstream" Nationalist), Charles Stewart Parnell ("Moderate" Nationalists), William O'Brien (Irish National League)
1907-1908: Edward Gray (Liberal leading Minority Coalition with Unionist Conservatives)
1908-1912: Edward Gray (Liberal)
1908: (Coalition with Unionist Conservatives) def - Randolph Churchill (Conservative and Radical), Arthur Griffith (Home Rule Alliance -Irish National League), John Redmond (Nationalist), Ramsay MacDonald (Workers'), Timothy Healy (Home Rule Alliance - Christian Irishmen's), Jospeh Delvin (Home Rule Alliance - Irish Reform)
1912-1912: Edward Gray (Liberal Unionist)
1912: (Majority) def - Austen Chamberlain (National Democratic), Arthur Griffith (Fianna Fáil), Alfred Milner (Milnerite), Ramsay MacDonald (Workers'), Joseph Delvin (Irish Reform), John Redmond (Nationalist)
1912-1913: Edward Gray (Liberal Unionist leading National Government with National Democratic, Milnerites and National Workers')
1913-1916: Reginald McKenna ("Government" Liberal Unionist leading National Government with National Democratic, Milnerites and National Workers')
1916-1918: David Lloyd George (National Democratic)
1917: (Majority) def - Eamon De Valera (United Irish League), Winston Churchill ("Grayite" Liberal Unionist), George Wyndham (Reactionary), Reginald McKenna ("Mckennite" Liberal Unionist), George Bernard Shaw (Irish Socialist Reform), George Barnes (National Workers'), Arthur Henderson (Pacifcist Workers')
1918-1923: Francis Wrigley-Hirst (Liberal Unionist)
1918: (Majority) def - Robert Blatchford (National Populist), Richard Verney (Reactionary), John Simon (National Unionist), George Barnes (National Workers'), Albert Inkpin (National Soviet Party)
1923-1923: Robert Blatchford (Populist)
1923: (Coalition with Neo-Radicals, National Workers' and Ulster Populists) def - Richard Cooper (Reactionary), Albert Inkpin (National Soviet Party), Francis Wrigley-Hirst (Liberal Unionist), Christopher Addison (Neo-Radical), Leo Amery (National Unionist), Henry Hyndman (National Workers')
1923-PRES: State of Civil War
 
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wolfram - The Hofheinz Coalition Retained
The Hofheinz Coalition Retained
1982-1998: Kathy Whitmire
1998-2003: Ben T. Reyes
2003-2004: Annise Parker

2004-2006: Rob Todd
2006-2014: Rodney Ellis
2014-
0000: Ellen Cohen

Incumbent Houston mayor Kathy Whitmire triumphed over longtime power-broker Bob Lanier in the 1991 election, but her last three terms were defined as much by actual achievement - such as her signing into law of job protections for gay people - as by the fight with him and his cronies on the board of the Metropolitan Transit Authority of Harris County. Eventually, she triumphed, but the Houston Monorail - stretching from Hobby Airport to Bellaire - would not begin construction until the administration of her successor.
Ben Reyes was, many said, both the best and worst mayor Houston ever had. A former Representative forced out through redistricting, Reyes was an effective wheeler-dealer who brought the Houston Monorail to the majority-Hispanic East End and computers to Houston's classrooms. But he was also convicted of accepting bribes. His successor, Mayor Pro Tem Annise Parker, was among the first LGBT mayors of a large city, but did little else, being a lame duck for virtually her entire term.
Reyes's going down in flames brought the first Republican mayoralty since the '70s. Rob Todd, the recipient of that mayoralty, lost it largely through his own efforts. His crusade against pornography began his meteoric fall, but the revelation of his affair with the wife of one of his City Council colleagues ensured that he lost re-election. Still, he retains a positive image for many Houstonians due to his efforts to mandate closed-captioning availability.
If anyone could restore the reputation of Houston's Democrats, it'd be Rodney Ellis. Like Ben Reyes, Ellis was a longtime legislator with a solid base in Houston's ethnic communities, well-respected for getting things done. Unlike Reyes, however, Ellis had an unimpeachable ethical record. Well-respected for his efforts to improve criminal justice issues and his reforms to healthcare, Ellis managed to pass another long-awaited reform: four-year terms for mayors.
His successor, Ellen Cohen, has had a smooth mayoralty thus far, largely defined by an expansion of Whitmire's job protection laws to, among other groups, trans people. However, many observers see storm clouds on the horizon - the pension fund for city employees is allegedly on the brink of bankruptcy. While no-one appears particularly likely to defeat her for re-election in November, the future of Houston's finances is uncertain.
 
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