List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

"Chesterbelloc boogaloo" is also of note.

'The signing of the document that would become the basis of Gonzonian Social Credit Distributist thought, by Chesterton, Belloc, Baring, and Gonzo [out of shot]. This truly captures the scene of the moment.'
-Colourised, 1923

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'The signing of the document that would become the basis of Gonzonian Social Credit Distributist thought, by Chesterton, Belloc, Baring, and Gonzo [out of shot]. This truly captures the scene of the moment.'
-Colourised, 1923

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I assume they did the boogaloo after the Don John of Austria House Cup was awarded? Though I fear if G.K. did the boogaloo, lives might be lost...
 
Yes. They were going to do the electric boogaloo, but alas electricity is the work of satan, and thus we can't do that - can we? :p

True. Just running an IP address off the natural static from the hair shirts of penitentes and the captured heat from the burning of heretics takes all the juice the poor lads have got...
 

Japhy

Banned
King of the NSS Thread

2015-2017: Nofix (Arizona Democratic Liberal Alliance - 'Haydenite')
2015: Ross Barnett (Dixiecrat), Charles Manson (White House Down II Electric Boogaloo), Lowell Weicker (Independent Republican)
2016: Jesse Helms (Totally not Dixiecrat Alliance), Roy 'Mike Pence' Cohn (Republican), Alan Clark (Conservative & Unionist), Magnus Malan (National Anti-Anti-Anti-Anti-Apartheid Front)

2017: Gonzo (Social Conservative Junta)
2017-????: Gonzo (Distributist Social Credit Ulster Unionist Alliance)

2017: Hunter S. Thompson (Freak Power), Bill Clinton (Republicrat), Meir Kahane (ZIONISM), Alois Brunner (SSNP), James J. Angleton (CIA-Mossad-M16 Front)
You all merely appropriated this thread, I was posting here before I ever got around to actually finishing a Timeline.
 
Oh dear that's not very nice

Preach. To quote a little more Lin-Manuel Miranda, "there will be a revolution in this century"...

(But seriously: I have some direct ancestors who spent terrified lifetimes hiding in plain sight by passing for white because of Andrew's ... little notions about appropriating property. And others who didn't end up so well. Sign me up for a pitchfork and a lamppost.)
 
LordandsaviorKloka - Some stuff about Gondor
A short list of alternate and Fourth Age Stewards of Gondor:
House of Hurin
TA 2984-FO 17: Denethor II
FO 17-82: Faramir
FO 82-126: Elboron
FO 126-161: Bronwe
FO 161-176: Cendathir
FO 176-224: Daervunn

Establishment of the rotating Stewardship
FO 224-248:Avadir (House Ancalimon)
FO 248-285:Iliandur (House Forweg)
FO 285-332: Dervorin (House Hurin)
FO 332-335: Boromir II (House Merendir)
FO 335-360: Aranwe (House Telemmir)
FO 360-397: Prince Lindir (House Galador)
FO 397-454: Hallas II (House Hurin)

Monarchs (all House Telcontar)
TA 3019-FO 120: Elessar I
FO 120-FO 206: Eldarion
FO 206-252: Thorongil
FO 252-260: Esteldir
FO 260-312: Alanna (Ruling Queen)
FO 312-358: Faramir
FO 358-415: Valandur
FO 415-435: Linneth (Ruling Queen,regent)
FO 435-517: Elessar II
 

Bolt451

Gone Fishin'
King of the NSS Thread

2015-2017: Nofix (Arizona Democratic Liberal Alliance - 'Haydenite')
2015: Ross Barnett (Dixiecrat), Charles Manson (White House Down II Electric Boogaloo), Lowell Weicker (Independent Republican)
2016: Jesse Helms (Totally not Dixiecrat Alliance), Roy 'Mike Pence' Cohn (Republican), Alan Clark (Conservative & Unionist), Magnus Malan (National Anti-Anti-Anti-Anti-Apartheid Front)

2017: Gonzo (Social Conservative Junta)
2017-????: Gonzo (Distributist Social Credit Ulster Unionist Alliance)

2017: Hunter S. Thompson (Freak Power), Bill Clinton (Republicrat), Meir Kahane (ZIONISM), Alois Brunner (SSNP), James J. Angleton (CIA-Mossad-M16 Front)

Don't blame me, I voted for @Mumby
 
Don't blame me, I voted for @Mumby

He ran on the Durham Miners' Fusionist Separatist Integrationist Free Occupied Stockton ticket, right? I'm a little confused -- the bright colors in the voter pamphlet made me giddy and I had to up my meds and then @Gonzo got talking and it's possible I signed some paperwork that now makes me an Ulster Unionist Dominican friar if that's possible, I'm still piecing that experience together in my head...
 

Bolt451

Gone Fishin'
He ran on the Durham Miners' Fusionist Separatist Integrationist Free Occupied Stockton ticket, right? I'm a little confused -- the bright colors in the voter pamphlet made me giddy and I had to up my meds and then @Gonzo got talking and it's possible I signed some paperwork that now makes me an Ulster Unionist Dominican friar if that's possible, I'm still piecing that experience together in my head...

Yes. If this was STV though my second vote would've gone to @Cevolian who was running simply under the party name "PHRESH"

(but given most of the lists here seem to be USA or UK, odds on its under Electoral college or FPTP, groan)
 
Cevolian - Phresh Memes For AH Teens
Yes. If this was STV though my second vote would've gone to @Cevolian who was running simply under the party name "PHRESH"

(but given most of the lists here seem to be USA or UK, odds on its under Electoral college or FPTP, groan)

<3 every vote counts

2010-2013:
Razors are for Fish (Founder - Thread Creator)
2010: (Government of All Talents with Good Lists, Shitposts and The Mods) def - The Child of Anne Boleyn had she married Napoleon III (Before 1900)
2013-2014: Japhy (Sensibleness, Moderation and Good Formatting)
2013: (Coalition with Originality/Phresh Alliance and The Mods) def - Effort (Full Length TLs), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Shitposts)
2014-2015: Uhura's Mumby (Phresh Memes)
2014: (Coalition with Good Formatting (Brought to you by Japhy) and The Mods) def - Also Japhy (Moderation and Sensibleness), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Trolling)
2015-2017: Uhura's Mumbisariolian (Phrosty Phresh Memes for AH Teens)
2015: (Coalition with Sensibless, Moderation and Good Formatting Reunited, Free Ulster Unionist, Non-Anglo Lists and The Mods) def - PERSON YOU DISLIKE (The Mounting Presence of Low Effort Lists)
2017-0000: PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Bad Lists)
2017: (Coalition with The New Name, Richard Nixon, Other Things You Dislike and Implausibility) def - Good Posts (The Thread)

(Note this is tongue in cheek, if anyone is offended I will alter it of course, but it is just meant as a joke)
 

Asami

Banned
Did the thread name just get changed? I think Presidents and PM's was just fine considering how we rarely have anything else (ie Kings, which I think have their own thread).

no
who changed it
change it back
please
the new name is crap

No. I changed it because now it's all-inclusive and includes things like Fuhrers, Duces, Vozhds, Governor-Generals, Kings, Queens, Archdukes, Dukes, Counts, Princes, Governors, et al.
 
Yes. If this was STV though my second vote would've gone to @Cevolian who was running simply under the party name "PHRESH"

(but given most of the lists here seem to be USA or UK, odds on its under Electoral college or FPTP, groan)

Well, now had I known that @Cevolian had built an entire party around a catchy slogan, as a good low-information voter I would have felt obliged to support him (well, for that and the Tony/Woy slashfic :cool:). I think we have Double Inverse Distributionist Reverse the Polarity of the Neutron Flow No Take Backsies voting, IIRC. The Electoral College lost a drinking game to the Invisible College so there's not that Enlightenment-era curio lying around although the maps are less fun without it.
 
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<3 every vote counts

2010-2013:
Razors are for Fish (Founder - Thread Creator)
2010: (Government of All Talents with Good Lists, Shitposts and The Mods) def - The Child of Anne Boleyn had she married Napoleon III (Before 1900)
2013-2014: Japhy (Sensibleness, Moderation and Good Formatting)
2013: (Coalition with Originality/Phresh Alliance and The Mods) def - Effort (Full Length TLs), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Shitposts)
2014-2015: Uhura's Mumby (Phresh Memes)
2014: (Coalition with Good Formatting (Brought to you by Japhy) and The Mods) def - Also Japhy (Moderation and Sensibleness), PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Trolling)
2015-2017: Uhura's Mumbisariolian (Phrosty Phresh Memes for AH Teens)
2015: (Coalition with Sensibless, Moderation and Good Formatting Reunited, Free Ulster Unionist, Non-Anglo Lists and The Mods) def - PERSON YOU DISLIKE (The Mounting Presence of Low Effort Lists)
2017-0000: PERSON YOU DISLIKE (Bad Lists)
2017: (Coalition with The New Name, Richard Nixon, Other Things You Dislike and Implausibility) def - Good Posts (The Thread)

(Note this is tongue in cheek, if anyone is offended I will alter it of course, but it is just meant as a joke)

I think you forgot the splinter faction from the Bad Lists coalition, the Zombie Cyborg Rumsfeld With Ivanka Trump's Face/Tulsi Gabbard Mash Notes list. They did file their residency and candidacy paperwork by Thursday February 46th as specified. The efficacy of library cards as official identification was challenged by the Mounting Presence of Low Effort Lists party secretary on grounds of "giving too much of a crap" but the objection was overruled Because Butterflies. And the Non-Anglo Lists party are having another argument with the Bloc Quebecois over whether they qualify or not (fucking splitters....)
 
spookyscaryskeletons - Making A Killing
Making A Killing
or: the ramifications of the hypercapitalist state

1981-1989: Ronald W. Reagan / George H. W. Bush (Republican)
1980 def: James E. Carter / Walter Mondale (Democratic), John B. Anderson / Pat Lucey (Independent)
1984 def: Walter E. Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)

1989-1990: Ronald W. Reagan / Clint Eastwood (Republican)
1988 def: Jesse L. Jackson / Dianne G. B. Feinstein (Democratic), Ronald E. Paul / Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
1990-1991: Clint Eastwood / vacant (Republican)
1991-1993: Clint Eastwood / James E. Thompson (Republican)
1993-1997: Clint Eastwood / Alan Simpson (Republican)

1992 def: Mario Cuomo / Toney Anaya (Democratic), Richard Boddie / Mary Ruwart (Libertarian)
1997-2005: William W. Bradley / C. Thomas McMillan (Democratic)
1996 def: Peter V. Ueberroth / Jack F. Kemp (Republican), Mary Ruwart / Andrew Napolitano (Libertarian)
2000 def: Jack F. Kemp / Frank Keating (Republican), Mary Ruwart / Dennis L. Lacy (Libertarian), John C. Rensenbrink / Winona LaDuke (Green)

2005-2009: Pete H. Coors / Russell D. Feingold (Republican / Democratic)
2004 def: Pete H. Coors / John Ashcroft (Republican), Kathleen Brown / Russell D. Feingold (Democratic), Mary Ruwart / Sonny Landham (Libertarian)
2009-2013: Russell D. Feingold / Bill White (Democratic)
2008 def: Pete H. Coors / Patrick Bateman (Republican), Sonny Landham / R. Lee Wrights (Libertarian)
2013-2017: Michael Bloomberg / Jim Bob Duggar (Republican)
2012 def: Russell D. Feingold / Bill White (Democratic), R. Lee Wrights / Peter Schiff (Libertarian)
2017-2025: Mark Cuban / Claire McCaskill (Democratic)
2016 def: Michael Bloomberg / Gary E. Johnson (Republican), Austin Petersen / Darryl W. Perry (Libertarian)
2020 def: Carlos Latuff / Jonathan Dine (Republican / Libertarian), Michael Render / Jeff Connaughton (Green), Josh Romney / scattered (Independent)

2025-2026: John McAfee / Bruce Poliquin (Republican / Libertarian)
2024 def: Jamie Dimon / Steven Quezada (Democratic), Michael Render / Doris Starr (Green)
2026-2026: Bruce Poliquin / vacant (Republican)
2026-2027: Bruce Poliquin / Robert Sarvis (Republican / Libertarian)
2027-2029: Bruce Poliquin / Robert Sarvis (Conservative Alliance)
2029-2033: Bruce Poliquin / Mike Gates (Conservative)

2028 def: Jan Parker-Marks / Jerry Cisneros (Democratic), Nathan King / Turner Carraway (National Republican Remnant), Rick Burr / Artur Jensen (Green)
2033-2037: Stephie Schiff / Chris Joseph (Democratic)
2032 def: Robert Sarvis / Blanche Dulles (Conservative), Nathan King / Jay Carter (American Enterprise), Artur Jensen / Mark Burr (Green)

Either Guy Vander Jagt's efforts are successful or the 22nd is never repealed full stop, take your pick. Anyway, Ronnie runs in 1988 in spite of massive opposition, including from Bush who takes the decision to step down from the ticket after taking a serious amount of heat regarding the Iran Contra scandal. Anyway Reagan goes generally unchallenged aside from a half hearted bid from Ben Fernandez yet again, and in the general, is able to sail to another easy re-election in the face of a radical Democratic ticket headed up by the black pastor Jesse Jackson and the Jim Jones affiliated Dianne Feinstein. Ron Paul's Libertarians come very close to hitting that sweet 5% with a strong message against government overreach which resonates with those in opposition to the third term movement. As expected in hindsight, Reagan's third term ends on a sour note with his sudden removal from office due to a stroke. Thrust into the Oval Office is Vice President Clint Eastwood, selected to bring back some nostalgia for the runs of '76 and '80. Eastwood chooses not to invade Iraq and instead initiates harsh sanctions in accordance with the Prevention of Genocide Act. He also signs into law a number of economic reforms including further banking deregulation and subcontracting of many state schools. He wins re-election due to a lingering sympathy effect and a feeling that he has his hand on the tiller. Eastwood still faces difficulties in his second term when he attempts to bring a more market orientated focus to the healthcare scene, including abolition of cost sharing and medicaid vouchers. It succeeds but only in a vastly watered down form, a fate that also befalls Eastwood's attempt at wide ranging gun control, which comes under heavy fire (no pun intended) from gun rights groups who disparage Eastwood. He ends his term with an even more Democratic house and a successor in Bill Bradley.

Bradley continues on from his work in the senate by pushing for even more overhaul of the tax reform system (packaged as the Fair Tax) and the introduction of a series of subsidies for state hospitals. It was under Bradley that the law banning third terms came into fruition. Bradley would combat the 'tech-cession' of 2001 and the rise of the Libertarians, who won a scattering of state judicial and city council seats across the country. The deficit would not budge despite cuts to income tax, probably due to a lengthy spell intervening in the Iraqi Civil War. It was in 2004 that a negative film about Republican vice presidential candidate John Ashcroft was brought to the Supreme Court, which ultimately sided with the film-makers and essentially opened the floodgates for a wave of dark money to impact Washington (repealing campaign finance laws passed in the mid to late 90's). The deadlock that ensued during the election produced the mismatched Coors/Feingold administration, which would juggle the business of more deregulation as well as entrance into Libya. Coors undid some of Bradley's tax increases, and stripped wall street regulations to the bone in an effort to encourage business to flow. Feingold wins a term of his own right in 2008 after a huge economic crunch hits but is impeded by conservatives in his own party as well as a GOP congress stonewalling his agenda after 2010. Feingold loses re-election to a truly strange candidate in Michael Bloomberg.

Bloomberg was never really the same after being injured in a construction accident at the Sears tower in 2002. Some allege that he suffered a complete personality change. Whatever the case, Bloomberg came into office with a new hypercapitalist vision and a very willing congress. He oversaw a rollback in regulations to the point where wall street was quickly becoming a new Wild West. Medicare was whittled down with a series of funding cuts and vouchers, while the same was attempted but failed with Social Security. The nascent Sovreign Union invaded the neighbouring nation of Iran, which in recent years had become a staunch US ally. Minimum wage laws weren't lowered, but they were turned back to the states, while gun control laws were also strengthened. One area which did see a boom would be the tech industry, which received a considerable funding boost as Bloomberg wanted to see a significant increase in broadband coverage. On education, Bloomberg all but subcontracted every state-assisted school in the country and busted teacher's unions to the shreiks of education activists. In 2016, Bloomberg would be laid low by a minor scandal involving his VP's pedophilia and reports that he was planning to introduce a series of cameras across the country. The Libertarian party would finally cross the 5% mark here, after having built up a presence nationwide, holding five seats in congress and more in state legislatures.

Cuban wouldn't be any better than Bloomberg it would seem. Though he passed some token reforms like healthcare coverage expansion (body-mods would begin to be popular during Cuban's time) and cap/trade to fight climate change. Another tech boom would occur over the course of the Cuban administration, as private tech companies built their own space shuttles and made serious attempts at constructing space elevators. Other sectors lagged behind however. The business regulations of old had been gone for many years, and for some it was a return to the bad old days of yore, with lax working conditions and poor wages aplenty. Despite this, CEOs sought to up their ante and took advantage of minimalistic labo(u)r regulations to hire even more undocumented immigrants from both Mexico and abroad. Cuban would also end the War on Drugs by passing legislation decriminalising many major stimulants and putting more emphasis on rehabilitation. Nevertheless, the scourge of private prisons grew in strength and size. A perplexing sea-storm ravaged the east coast, and Cuban's adept response allowed him to win re-election against the fledgling Republican-Libertarian Alliance (hey, can't beat em, join em). In his second term, Cuban would fight a War on the shores of Venezuela as government affiliated crackpots committed a series of bomb attacks across the southern border. The Venezuela War became one of attrition in spite of Brazil's help, and victory would finally arrive in 2024 but only in Pyrrhic fashion as socialist guerrillas ravaged the countryside and the emergency government found itself over-run. A Cuban administration wracked with problems went down in defeat as Treasury secretary Jamie Dimon lost to tech magnate John McAfee, already an extremely controversial figure. McAfee spent a year of his term tearing the life out of the security state as much as he could, while withdrawing from Venezuela and cutting the defense budget (to an extent). He also abolished the Department of HUD, something Bloomberg couldn't even do. In 2026, he was detained on charges of murder in relation to his activities in Venezuela pre-war and in Belize. He fled the country, never to be found again. Stepping up to the plate was his more emphatically state orientated VP Bruce Poliquin, who started construction on an ever more stronger border fence in his first act as president (the idea of a McAfee committee was ludicrous, he said). He also committed to a more resolute line on the matter of rising socialism in South America, deploying drones and other advanced military equipment there. Poliquin would also take the controversial decision of finally merging the two right wing parties into one unitary force. It drew criticism, but it was also a masterstroke that reinforced Poliquin's authority. In 2028, he scrapes to re-election, and with the news of Green party members being elected to the senate in Maine and California, maybe there's a chance of the longstanding political consensus becoming upended.
 
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