List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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1789-1801: John Paul Jones (Independent)
1788-89 (with Joseph Warren) def. Joseph Warren (Federalist) and John Hancock (Anti-Federalist)
1792 (with Paine Wingate) def. Paine Wingate (Confederalist), George Clinton (Federalist), and Arron Burr (Independent)
1796 (with Thomas Jefferson) def. Thomas Jefferson (Confederalist) and John Adams (Federalist)

1801-1809: Cyrus Griffin (Confederalist)
1800 (with Charles Pokesworth Pinckney) def. Charles Pokesworth Pinckney (Federalist)
1804 (with Alexander Hamilton) def. Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)

1809-1813: John Milledge (Confederalist)
1808 (with Johnathan Trumball Jr.) def. Johnathan Trumball Jr. (Federalist)
1813-1821: Stephen Van Renssalaer (Federalist)
1812 (with John Milledge) def. John Milledge (Confederalist)
1816 (with Simon Snyder) def. Simon Snyder (Confederalist)

1821-1827: John Eager Howard (Federalist)
1820 (with James Patton Preston) def. James Patton Preston (Confederalist)
1824 (with William Marks) def. William Marks (Federalist), Nathan Sanford (Federalist), and Richard Rush (Federalist)

1827-1829: William Marks (Federalist)
Sworn in 1827
1829-1833: Cornelius P. Van Ness (Independent)
1828 (with William Marks) def. William Marks (Federalist)
1833-1841: Cornelius P. Van Ness (Nationalist)
1832 (with George Howard) def. George Howard (Federalist)
1836 (with Thomas King Carroll) def. Thomas King Carroll (Yeomans') and Zachary Taylor (Federalist)

1841-1845: John C. Calhoun (Yeomans')
1840 (with James G. Birney) def. James G. Birney (Independent) and William Henry Harrison (Nationalist)
1845-1857: Theodore Frelinghuysen (Independent)
1844 (with John C. Calhoun) def. John C. Calhoun (Yeomans') and Richard Bishop Dudley (Nationalist)
1848 (with James C. Jones) def. James C. Jones (Yeomans')
1852 (with George Troup) def. George Troup (Yeomans')

1857-1861: Josiah J. Evans (Yeomans')
1856 (with Abraham Lincoln) def. Abraham Lincoln (Workers and Farmers) and Robert M. Charlton (Yeomans')
1861-1866: Andre B. Roman (Workers and Farmer)
1860 (with Josiah J. EvansÎ (1861) vacant (1861-1862) Robert F. Stockton (1862-1866)) def. Josiah J. Evans (Yeomans')
1864 (with Robert F. Stockton) def.
1866-1869: Robert F. Stockton (Workers and Farmers)
Sworn in 1866
1869-1881: Reuben Fenton (Workers and Farmers)
1868 (with vacant) def. ran unopposed
1872 (with John Alexander Kennedy) def. John Alexander Kennedy (Independent)
1876 (with Roscoe Conkling) def. Roscoe Conkling (Workers and Farmers)

1881-1890: Samuel B. H. Vance(Workers and Farmers)
1880 (with Reuben Fenton) def. Reuben Fenton (Workers and Farmers)
1884 (with James G. Blaine) def. James G. Blaine (Workers and Farmers)
1888 (with Murphy J. Foster) def. Murphy J. Foster (Independent) and James G. Blaine (Workers and Farmers)

1890-1892: Murphy J. Foster* (Independent)
Sworn in 1890 - 1892 (with Leonidas L. Polk) def. Leonidas L. Polk (Workers and Farmers)
1892-1897: Leonidas L. Polk (Workers and Farmers)
Sworn in 1892
1897-1909: Matthew Maguire (Workers and Farmers)
1896 (with James B. Weaver) def. James B. Weaver (Workers and Farmers) and Albert Parsons (Workers and Farmers)
1900 (with Teddy Roosevelt) def. Teddy Roosevelt (Workers and Farmers) and Williams Jennings Bryan (Workers and Farmers)
1904 (with Teddy Roosevelt) def. Teddy Roosevelt (Workers and Farmers)

1909-1921: Charles J. Bonaparte (Workers and Farmers)
1908 (with Charles E. Hughes) def. Charles E. Hughes (Workers and Farmers) and Samuel W. Williams (Workers and Farmers)
1912 (with Thomas Wilson) def. Thomas Wilson (Independent) and Eugene V. Debs (Workers and Farmers)
1916 (with Thomas Wilson) def. Thomas Wilson (Independent) and Arthur LeSueur (Workers and Farmers)

1921-1924: Henry C. Wallace(Workers and Farmers)
1920 (with John C. Chase) def. John C. Chase (Workers and Farmers), Charles J. Bonaparte (Workers and Farmers), and Calvin Coolidge (Independent)
1924-1933: John C. Chase (Workers and Farmers)
1924 (with Franklin D. Roosevelt) def. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Workers and Farmers) and William Gibbs McAdoo (Independent)
1928 (with Herbert C. Hoover) def. Herbert C. Hoover (Progressive-Conservative) and Sidney Johnston Catts (Independent)

1933-1937: John Nance Garner (Progressive-Conservative)
1932 (with John C. Chase) def. John C. Chase (Workers and Farmers)
1937-1939: Pat McCarrenÎ (Patriot)
1936 (with Huey Long) def. Huey Long (Workers and Farmers), John Nance Garner (Progressive-Conservative), and John R. Brinkley (Independent)
1939-1948: Huey Long* (Workers and Farmers)
Sworn in 1939 - 1940 (with Alf Landon) def. Alf Landon (Progressive-Conservative), John R. Brinkley (Independent) and Gerald L. K. Smith (Christian Nationalist)
1944 (with vacant) def. ran unopposed (declared Martial Law)

1948-1957: Everett Dirksen (Progressive-Conservative)
Sworn in 1948 - 1948 (with George C. Marshall) def. George C. Marshall (Independent) and Glen H. Taylor (Workers and Farmers)
1952 (with Harold E. Stassen) def. Harold E. Stassen (Workers and Farmers)

1957-1963: Estes Kefauver (Workers and Farmers)
1956 (with Ricky Nixon) def. Ricky Nixon (Progressive-Conservative)
1960 (with Jack Kennedy® (1960-1962) vacant (1962-1963)) def. Jack Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative)

1963-1965: Cecil H. Underwood (Progressive-Conservative)
Sworn in 1963
1965-1973: Jerry Voorhis (Workers and Farmers)
1964 (with Prescott Bush) def. Prescott Bush (Progressive-Conservative) and George C. Wallace (Republican)
1968 (with Jacob Javits) def. Jacob Javits (Progressive-Conservative) and Strom Thurmond (Republican)

1973-1993: John McKeithen (Progressive-Conservative)
1972 (with Jerry Voorhis) def. Jerry Voorhis (Workers and Farmers), John G. Schmitz (Republican), and John Hospers (Independent)
1976 (with James Carter) def. James Carter (Workers and Farmers) and Bob Dole (Republican)
1980 (with Ronnie Reagan) def. Ronnie Reagan (Workers and Farmers) and Fob James (Republican)
1984 (with Clint Eastwood) def. Clint Eastwood (Republican) and Tom Eagleton (Workers and Farmers)
1988 (with Mario Cuomo) def. Mario Cuomo (Workers and Farmers) and Clint Eastwood (Republican)

1993-1997: Lido Iacocca (Progressive-Conservative)
1992 (with Eugene McCarthy) def. Eugene McCarthy (Workers and Farmers) and James Stockdale (Republican)
1997-2005: Dolores Huerta (Workers and Farmers)
1996 (with Lido Iacocca) def. Lido Iacocca (Progressive-Conservative) and Pat Choate (Republican)
2000 (with Bob Graham) def. Bob Graham (Progressive-Conservative) and Jack Kemp (Republican)

2005-2009: Richard Trumka (Workers and Farmers)
2004 (with Dick Cheney) def. Dick Cheney (Republican) and Wesley Clark (Progressive-Conservative)
2009-2013: Anthony S. Fauci (Progressive-Conservative)
2008 (with Richard Trumka) def. Richard Trumka (Workers and Farmers) and Hermain Caine (Republican)
2013-Present: J. C. Watts (Republican)
2012 (with Anthony S. Fauci) def. Anthony S. Fauci (Progressive-Conservative) and Rocky Anderson (Workers and Farmers)
2016 (with Willard Romney) def. Willard Romney (Progressive-Conservative) and Bernard Sanders (Workers and Farmers)

Died due to natural causes
Î Impeached
* Assassinated
® Resigned
Looks like the runner-up in the Presidential race became Vice President. So there is no OTL 12th Amendment.


Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
1937-1942 Jimmy Thomas (Social Democratic Federation) [1]

1937: Malcolm Barclay-Harvey (Tory), William Beveridge (Liberal)

First Ministers of the Kingdom of Great Britain
1942-1951 François Darlan (Orléanist)* [2]
1951-1965 Bernard Griffin (Independent)* [3]

1965-1979 Peter Carington (Independent until 1967 then People's) [4]
1968: William Godfrey (Independent), Francis Hastings (SDF)
George Dwyer (National), Tony Benn (SDF)
1979-1986 Jeffrey Archer (People's) [5]
1980: John Lyon-Dalberg-Acton (National), Tony Benn (SDF)
1986-1986 Francis Pym (People's) [6]
1986-1994 William Rees-Mogg (National) [7]
1986: Francis Pym (People's), Arthur Davidson (SDF)
1992: Glenda Jackson (SDF), Peter Morrison (People's)

1994-1998 Gerrard Batten (National) [8]
1998-2010 Glenda Jackson (SDF) [9]
1998: Gerrard Batten (National), Simon Hughes (People's)
2004: John Randall (People's), Neil Hamilton (National)

2009-2020 Stephen Fry (SDF) [10]
2010: John Randall (People's), Archie Hamilton (National)
2016: Jacob Rees-Mogg (National), John Pugh (People's)

2020-2022 Russell Brand (SDF) [11]
2022-present Lewis Brindley (People's) [12]

2022: Russell Brand (SDF), Jacob Rees-Mogg (National)

*Puppet governors

Monarchs of Great Britain
1910-1936 George V (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
George VI (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1938-1942 Albert I (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha)
1942-1943 (Vacant)
Robert IV (Wittelsbach)*
1955-2000 Albert II (Wittelsbach)
2000-2021 Albert III (Wittelsbach)
2021-present Mary III (Wittelsbach)

*When a UK monarch has different regnal numbers for England and Scotland, they use the one which is higher.


Jimmy Thomas was elected as the second SDF Prime Minister, this time with an outright majority. He began implementing an extensive program of social welfare, but was interrupted by the onset of French aggression, which he failed to mitigate. As a result, he formally surrendered to the Kingdom of France in late 1942.


François Darlan was installed by King Henri VI to govern his conquest at the head of a puppet government. With the Jacobite succession restored, Henri could assert his dominance with a sense of religious legitimacy, rather than pure right of conquest. Though remaining loyal to Henri, Darlan proved to be a competent governor, even gaining extensive popularity among the British people, who viewed him as an honest military man who tried to carry out his task with diplomacy and tact rather than senseless violence. This was enhanced further by a persistent rumour that Darlan was instrumental in the escape of King Albert I and his family to Canada. This rumour was denounced as a conspiracy theory and was rather heavily surpressed by the Darlan government. It seemed that Darlan had grown fond of the people whom he had been charged to govern, as he was one of the principal voices in calls to have a Briton succeed him.


Bernard Griffin, Archbishop of Westminster was selected to succeed Darlan. He was perceived to have little to no political leanings, but a strong work ethic and sense of loyalty. He ruled with a steady hand for nearly 15 years, ever loyal to his French liege. Henri VI remarked that he was "more civil servant than politician". The British public did not view Griffin as kindly as they did Darlan. Griffin was a member of the clergy, not the military and thus had no reason to succumb to the whim of France. More importantly, he was a Briton: a traitor and a collaborator. Several attempts were made on his life, all met with a harsh crackdown.


Griffin resigned at a time of severe political upheaval in France. While the ailing Henri's many children squabbled over the succession, Philippe Leclerc was leading a movement for democracy that threatened to turn to revolt. The young and dynamic Minister for the Interior, Peter Carington was hastily installed as First Minister. By the time France had stabilised under Henri VII, Carington, with budding popular support and the aid of King Albert II, had successfully shaken off the grasp of French hegemony and established an independent constitutional monarchy, incorporating many elements of the occupational beaurocracy. In Carington's and most of the public's eyes, the Wittelsbachs had demonstrated loyalty to their subjects and had won the right to hold the throne. An agreement was made with the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha that they would rule all lands that had remained in possession of the British empire, while the House of Wittelsbach would remain rulers of the island of Great Britain. In a surprising move of understanding, Queen Elizabeth accepted and was content to remain in the country that had provided refuge in her family's darkest hour. With Canadian and American support of the new state and the damage caused by the Leclerc movement, Henri VII was unwilling and unable to reclaim his vassal.

Meanwhile, there were still those who benefited from or approved of authoritarian rule and strong ties to France. These loyalists rallied behind Archbishop Godfrey, but failed to mitigate Carington’s soaring popularity and Godfrey's alienating religious fervour. In the coming years they formally united to create the National party.


Upon his retirement, Carington was succeeded by the long-time cabinet minister Jeffrey Archer. He was generally unremarkable as a First Minister, especially when compared to Carington, but normally governed with an above average level of competence. Ultimately, he was forced to resign after a string of scandals hit him and his cabinet. He was revealed to have been soliciting prostitutes, while others had been engaging in bribery and adultery.


Francis Pym was elected as a unity candidate in the aftermath of the shambolic Archer affair. With less than a year to the election, this rather competent politician did not have enough time to shake the image of sleaze or institute any meaningful change. As a result, he was defeated in a landslide, only narrowly beating the SDF in terms of seats.


William Rees-Mogg governed with the same Catholic social conservatism as the military government, but with the return to democracy being well established and accepted, he made no attempt to seize power or disrupt government in any way. Many more freedoms were permitted under the Nationals than under the French, gaining Rees-Mogg support from more authoritarian democrats, while winning grudging tolerance from the more liberal areas of society.

During his tenure, the SDF experienced a resurgence, with Glenda Jackson becoming Leader of the Opposition.


Upon his departure, Rees-Mogg, having been made a baron himself under French rule, was aware of the growing public perception of the National party as the party of established nobility and clergy. Thus, he endorsed the young Minister for War, Gerrard Batten for the leadership. Batten was the furthest from nobility as you could get. Growing up in the East End of London, Batten had worked hard to gain entrance to Oxford University, where he joined the National party. Despite this, his strongly held party-friendly views and effective performance as Minister for War, won him the support of sceptics in the party. Upon being elected, Batten proved to be a poor choice for leader. While a competent minister, he was ineffective in leading a coherent cabinet. As well as this, it emerged that he had deeply held opinions on certain subjects that did not align with party consensus. Failing to resign, the party degenerated into a state of vicious infighting. With Simon Hughes failing to offer meaningful opposition from the People's Party, Glenda Jackson was able to capitalise on the Nationals' infighting and built on her already substantial popularity to propel her into government.


Glenda Jackson instituted a wide range of reforms, including a socialised health service and social welfare. She remained incredibly popular throughout her tenure due to strong governance and judicious use of her acting skills to project herself as consistently passionate and genuine. Early in her tenure, she legalised homosexuality and abortions in life-threatening circumstances as well as abolishing the death penalty for most crimes. As a result, and despite a resurgence of the People's Party, Jackson won two elections, retiring exactly one year before her third.


The election of the openly gay Minister for the Interior Stephen Fry to the leadership was controversial to say the least. The parliamentary party had been won over by his eloquent and effective tenure in cabinet, but the membership was concerned that the general public would not accept him. In response, Fry used the year before the election to put his case to the people. After 6 months, no locusts and a series of sensible and popular reforms, Fry had gained substantial support. Come the election, he was able to narrowly beat the popular moderate John Randall and returned to government with a decreased majority. Over the course of 11 years, Fry's popularity kept growing. So much so that he was able to gain a mandate for the introduction of civil partnerships after his second election, which he utilised himself with his long-term partner. Many people found him so personable, in fact, that upon his departure, he pursued a highly successful career as a broadcaster, with the freedom to travel the world and make documentaries on the issues that he felt were important. He is widely credited with being instrumental in significantly reducing the stigma around homosexuality.


Fry made no endorsement during the leadership election, so the radical and eccentric Education Secretary Russell Brand was more able to mitigate his ideological distance from the outgoing First Minister. With the promise of widespread reform that would go past that of his predecessors, Brand won the support of the parliamentary party, who were wary that after so long in government and without a popular figurehead, the party would soon become stale. Upon being elected to the leadership, Brand tried and failed to implement his vision. The first controversial reform he attempted was with drugs. Ideologically, Brand believed that most drugs should be legal, particularly marijuana, which he viewed as being a waste of time for police and an outdated morality rather than science-based prohibition. This did not sit well with the religious right, or with many moderates in his own party. However, with the radical Jacob Rees-Mogg gaining support, the party did not want to have a repeat of Batten. Thus, they bit the bullet and rallied behind the eccentric leader.


With the field divided between far-right and far-left, newly elected Lewis Brindley of the People's Party saw his opportunity. The young man, a progressive by People's Party standards had developed an authoritative voice and sharp sense of humour, which he used to full effect, his chemist's training giving him a unique ability to analyse things thoroughly and objectively. While the SDF and Nationals fought a vicious election, Brindley ran a campaign which all but ignored the main two contenders, risking being overshadowed completely. In fact, the opposite occurred with more and more voters gravitating toward the intriguing dark horse rather than the out of touch ideologues. Thus, in 2022, Brindley managed a modest majority, prompting both Rees-Mogg and Brand to resign. Brindley has increased funding to technology development, social welfare and mental health and looks on track to win the next election.


I worked through the night on this so blame Covid sleep schedules for any spelling errors and the noticable decrease in quality as you go down the footnotes.
And yes I made Lewis Brindley of the Yogscast Prime Minister, what of it!?
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1977-1981: Henry M. Jackson/Birch Bayh
1981-1989: Bob Dole/Howard Baker
1989-1997: Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1997-2005: John Kasich/Colin Powell
2005-2013: Chris Dodd/Howard Dean
2013-: John Hickenlooper/Jay Inslee
List based on my comicbook universe.)

Republic of Indonesia (1945-1948)
Soekarno (PNI/Partindo)-Mohammad Hatta (Independent/PNI) (1945-1949)

Emergency Government of the Republic of Indonesia (1948-1949)
Syarifuddin Prawiranegara (Masyumi) (1948-1949)

Republic of United States of Indonesia (1949-1950)
President:Soekarno (PNI)
Prime Minister: Mohammad Hatta (Independent) (1949-1950)

Republic of Indonesia (1950-1961)
Soekarno (PNI)-Mohammad Hatta (Independent) (1950-1954)
Soekarno (Independent)-Sidik Djojosukarto (PNI) (1954-1956)
Soekarno (Independent)-Sutan Sjahrir (PSI) (1956-1959)
Soekarno (Independent)-Semaoen (PKI) (1959-1961)


Islamic Republic of Indonesia (1961-1963)
Sekarmadji Maridjan Kartosuwiryo (Imam of the Islamic Republic of Indonesia) (1961-1963)

People's Republic of Indonesia (1961-1965)
(Premier of People's Republic of Indonesia) D.N Aidit-Sudisman (1961-1963)
D.N Aidit-Amir Sjarifuddin (1963-1964)
D.N Aidit (1965)

Indonesian Security Council (1961-1964)
Soeharto (President of the Republic of Indonesia) (1961-1964)

Democratic Republic of Indonesia (1961-Today)
(President of the Democratic Republic of Indonesia) Ali Sadikin (Independent)-Lieutenant General M.Jasin (Independent) (1961-1963)
Ali Sadikin (Independent)-Syarifuddin Prawiranegara (Masyumi) (1963-1964)
Ali Sadikin (Independent)-Manaai Sophiaan (Independent) (1964-1965)
Ali Sadikin (Independent/Democratic Republican Party)-Hoegeng (Independent) (1965-1972)
Ali Sadikin (Democratic Republican Party)-Frans Seda (Democratic Republican Party) (1972-1975)
Ali Sadikin (Democratic Republican Party)-Mohammad Sanussi Hardjadinata (PNI) (1975-1980)
Ali Sadikin (Democratic Republican Party)-S.K Trimurti (People's Social Movement Party) (1980-1982)
Ali Sadikin (Democratic Republican Party)-Slamet Bratanata (People's Social Movement Party) (1982-1985)
Ali Sadikin (Democratic Republican Party)-Abdurahman Wahid (Islamic Union Party) (1985-1990)
Aisyah Aminy (Democratic Republican Party)- Manaai Sophiaan (PNI) (1990-1995)
Setiawan Djody (Progress and Unity Party)-Adi Sasono (PNI) (1995-1998)

Nurcholis "Cak Nur" Madjid (Islamic Union Party)- Megawati Soekarnoputri (Democratic Republican Party) (1998-2002)
Alwi Shihab (PNI)-Eka Tjipta Widjaya (PNI) (2002-2006)
Alwi Shihab (PNI)-Adnan Buyung Nasution (Democratic Republican Party) (2006-2010)
Jimly Asshidiqie (National Democratic Union)-Sophaan Sophiaan (PNI) (2010-2014)
Sudjiwo Tedjo (National Progression Party)-Faudzi Bowo (Democratic Party) (2014-2018)
Djarot Saeful Hidayat (Democratic Republican Party)-Sudjiwo Tedjo (National Progression Party) (2018-Now)
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2022-present Lewis Brindley (People's) [12]
2022: Russell Brand (SDF), Jacob Rees-Mogg (National)
SNL portrayals of US Presidents in "Will the Last One Out Please Turn Off the Lights?"

2016-2021*: Alec Baldwin (as Donald Trump)

"I was going to say something extremely rough to Hillary tonight but I said to myself, I can’t do it. I just can’t do it. But if I said it, it would have been a nuclear bomb."
2021-2025: Dan Bakkedahl (as Donald Trump)
"By the time Obama left office he went all grey up top. Two terms later and I'm still the same shade of Goldfish Cracker!"
2025-2026: John Mulaney (as Josh Hawley)
"I'm like a Kennedy, but instead of being controlled by my Catholic faith, I tell the Pope to shove it!"
2026-2032: Henry Zebrowski (as Ammon Bundy)
"Should we be at all concerned about that ghoul with the glowing skull behind you?"
"What? Nah, that's just Roy, if you ignore him for long enough he'll float off to look for a field trip or something."

2033-2034: Clayton English (as Chokwe Lumumba)
"My highest priority for this administrations first 100 days will be reaching up inside each and every landlord in the country and surgically remove the sticks they've had lodged up their asses."
2034-2035: Alingon Mitra (as Adi Sathi)
"Call me everyone's new stepdad. You didn't want me, but I'm here now, so you and me best try and get along, slugger!"
2035-2036: [hiatus]
2036-2037: Michael Palascak (as Ryan Bundy)

"Hello, America. I'm President Ryan Bundy, and I'm the reason you're watching this on Amazon Prime instead of syndicated TV. I used the ol' 'First Amendment' argument over at NBC, but I'm guessing dangling the execs over the shark put worked just a touch better. Now I hope you like ten ads in a row, 'cos my pal Jeff has got some absolute barn-burners!"
2037-20??: [series cancellation]
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Obama for Governor, 2006:

US Presidents since 2008:
44: Senator John McCain of Arizona/Former Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts (Republican) (2009-2013)

2008: def. Fmr. Senator John Edwards/Fmr. Governor Rod Blagojevich (Democratic)
John McCain ekes out a victory against the most corrupt presidential ticket since Nixon/Agnew, except this time the sh*t hits the fan all at once in October. The Great Recession hits soon after (like, "hits when McCain has just started writing an inaugural speech", soon after), and Democrats seize nearly-vetoproof majorities in 2010 (
270-165 in the House, 64-36 in the Senate). After that, a failed attempt at killing Bin Laden ending in a US-Pakistani stare-down and a health scare or...twelve, McCain steps aside in 2012. His VP, however, is ousted in the primaries by Sarah Palin, who is annihilated in 2012 by...
45: Governor Barack Obama of Illinois/Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio (
Democratic) (2013-2021)
2012: def. Fmr. Governor Sarah Palin/Fmr. House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Republican), Vice President Mitt Romney/Fmr. Senator Joe Lieberman (Independent)
2016: def. Fmr. Secretary of State Jon Huntsman Jr./Governor Tim Pawlenty (Republican)

To this day, you will still hear the Minutemen Movement (TTL's Tea Party--credit to Pericle's timeline, A Different Path, for the name) claim 'Palin would've won if not for that RINO Romney!' while disregarding a 10% unemployment rate, a 21% approval rating for the national GOP, and the fact that Obama won well over 56% of the popular vote. The former Illinois senator, running on a campaign of hope and change (as per OTL), far outshined his primary opponents and ran circles around the gaffe-prone Palin and the stuffed-shirt-in-a-chair Vice President. (work in progress)
46: Vice President Sherrod Brown of Ohio/Governor Nicole Galloway of Missouri (
Democratic) (2021-incumbent)
2020: def. Governor Jeff Flake/Senator John Kasich (Republican), Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum/Rep. Scott Perry (Freedom)
2024: President Sherrod Brown of Ohio/VP Nicole Galloway of Missouri (Democratic), Fmr. Governor Marco Rubio of Florida/Governor Kevin Faulconer of California (Republican) (AS OF JULY 2024)
Even with Obama's approval remaining at a decent 51%, Democrats were pretty concerned with their chances, seeing as the GOP had nominated the popular, youthful Arizona governor as their Obama counterpart. With the polls at a dead heat, you would be forgiven for thinking that the GOP was returning from their 8-year-long malaise. But then runner-up and fringe candidate Rick Santorum decided to take another shot at the White House, and the GOP found themselves shut out of the White House and the Senate. Again. (work in progress)

Right now (2024), President Brown enjoys a 48% approval rating, and is negotiating with House Speaker Will Hurd for an increased infrastructure budget. (work in progress)
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I saw that most lists here are incredibly bland (no offense), so I added some colour to the thread. Is this thread only for US/UK/Canada? If so I'll remove it.

I find Indian lists fascinating. Helps me get to grips with Indian politics which quite frankly is quite complicated :)


2001-2009:Colin Powell/Lamar Alexander
Def 2000:Al Gore/Joe Lieberman(Democratic),Donald Trump/John Hagelin(Reform)
Def 2004: Howard Dean/Wesley Clark(Democratic),Andrew Breitbart/Pat Buchanan(Reform)

2009-2013:Bill Richardson/Chris Dodd
Def 2008:Lamar Alexander/John McCain(Republican),Mike Gravel/Jesse Ventura(Change!)

2013-2017:Mitt Romney/Rick Santorum
Def 2012:Bill Richardson/Chris Dodd(Democratic),Ron Paul/Gary Johnson(Reform)
2017-2025:Cory Booker/David Zuckerman

Def 2017:Mitt Romney/Rick Santorum(Republican)
Def 2020:Tulsi Gabbard/Jim Gilmore(Republican),Mike Gravel/Keith Ellison(Change!)
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Hi, I tried my hand at an Irish Taoiseachs (and Presidents)-to-US Presidents list.

As their elections don't always line up, I had to skip a couple of snap elections (1951, 1981), and also used the 1992 US presidential election to mirror the 1990 Irish Presidential election.

The inspiration was Dev's supposed admiration of Democratic Party big city machines, and I thought the early 20th century Democratic Party, (i.e. a big tent with a lot of support from conservative rural southerners and labour unions) was a good fit for Fianna Fail throughout most of its history. The only analogue I'm not particularly happy with is John Edwards for Bertie - can anyone else think of a better stand-in? Or does he fit?

List of Presidents of the United States (1933-present)

1933-1949 Harry F. Byrd (Democratic)
1932 with Pat McCarran (Democratic) def. William Howard Taft (Republican)
1936 with Pat McCarran (Democratic) def. Robert A. Taft (Republican)
1940 with Pat McCarran (Democratic) def. Robert A. Taft (Republican)
1944 with Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican),

1949-1957 Harold H. Burton (Republican)
1948 with Reuben Soderstrom (Republican) def. Harry F. Byrd (Democratic), Huey Long (Union) [1]
1952 with Reuben Soderstrom (Republican) def. Harry F. Byrd (Democratic)

1957-1959 Harry F. Byrd (Democratic)
1956 with Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic) def. Douglas MacArthur (Republican)
1959-1969 Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic)
1960 with James F. Byrnes (Democratic) def. Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. Republican)
1964 with J. Howard McGrath (Democratic) def. Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)

1969-1973 Albert Chandler (Democratic)
1968 with James. Roosevelt (Democratic) def. Robert A. Taft, Jr. (Republican)
1973-1977 Robert A. Taft, Jr. (Republican)
1972 with George McGovern (Republican) def. Albert Chandler (Democratic)
1977-1979 Albert Chandler (Democratic)
1976 with Edwin Edwards (Democratic) def. Robert A. Taft, Jr. (Republican)
1979-1985 Edwin Edwards (Democratic)
1980 with Adlai Stevenson III (Democratic) def. Charles Mathias (Republican)
1985-1989 Charles Mathias (Republican)
1984 with Bill Bradley (Independent) def. Edwin Edwards (Democratic)
1989-1991 Edwin Edwards (Democratic)
1988 with Mario Cuomo (Democratic) def. Lowell Weicker (Republican), Gary Hart (Independence) [2]
1991-1993 Mario Cuomo (Democratic) [3]
1991 with Bill Clinton (Democratic)
1993-1997 Geraldine Ferraro (Independent) [4]
1992 with Bill Clinton (Democratic) def. Mario Cuomo (Democratic), John Lewis (Republican) [5]
1997-2001 John Kasich (Republican)
1996 with Elizabeth Dole (Republican) def. Bill Clinton Democratic), Bill Bradley (Progressive)
2001-2009 John Edwards (Democratic)
2000 with Blanche Lincoln (Independence) def. John Kasich Republican)
2004 with Blanche Lincoln (Democratic) def. Donald Riegle (Republican)
2007 with Chris Christie (Democratic)

2009-2013 Chris Christie (Democratic)
2008 with Mary Fallin (Democratic) def. Mitt Romney (Republican)
2013-2017 Mitt Romney (Republican)
2012 with Tom Price (Republican) def. Howard Dean (Progressive), Chris Christie (Democratic)
2017-0000 Jared Polis (Republican)
2016 with Chris Sununu (Republican) def. Mark Warner (Democratic), Al Sharpton (People's)
2020 wit
h Joaquin Castro (Democratic) def. Tulsi Gabbard (People's), Mark Warner (Democratic) [5]

[1] This resulted in the first contingent election since 1837, although Harold and Soderstrom was nonetheless approved by the House and Senate due to an arrangement with Progressive, Union and independent congressmen.

[2] The 1988 Democratic convention saw anti-Edwards delegates, including Senator Gary Hart and his supporters, stage a walkout and form the Independence Party, along with the backing of several Republican legislators. Ultimately however, Hart would take more votes from typically Republican voters and ensured Edwards' re-election.

[3] Edwards was forced to resign in 1991 due to looming impeachment over his role in a massive racketeering scandal.

[4] The first female president, and the first President not from one of the major parties since Millard Fillmore (although she was endorsed by the Progressive Party and numerous civil rights groups and labor unions). Ferraro's surprise victory was credited to dissatisfaction with Democratic Party corruption and a weak Republican campaign.

[5] This was also the second contingent election of the 20th century, with Democratic vice president Bill Clinton being re-elected by the Senate as part of an agreement with the Ferraro campaign.

[6] The third contingent election in recent history, with all three main candidates receiving around 1/3 of the vote. Despite coming third place in both the electoral college and popular vote, Polis was re-elected by Democratic House delegates as part of an agreement between the two parties. In exchange, Mark Warner's VP candidate, Joaquin Castro, was elected to the Vice Presidency by the Senate. Both parties ruled out an arrangement with the People's Party.
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Please Read The Catcher In The Rye (Or; a Mondale Wank)
1977-1980: Jimmy Carter*/Walter Mondale (D)
1980-1989: Walter Mondale/Reubin Askew (D)

1980: def. Ronald Reagan/George Bush (R) and John Anderson/Patrick Lucey
1984: def. Jack Kemp/Jeremiah Denton (R)

1989-1997: Alan Simpson/Barry Goldwater Jr. (R)
1988: def. Reubin Askew/Ted Kennedy (D)
1992: def. Tom Harkin/Bob Casey (D) and Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)

1997-2001: Bob Dole/Bill Weld (R)
1996: def. Jerry Brown/Dick Gephardt (D) and Dick Lamm/David Boren (Reform)
2001-2009: Paul Wellstone/Jay Rockefeller (D)
2000: def. Bob Dole/Bill Weld (R)
2004: def. Lincoln Chafee/Elizabeth Dole (R) and Virgil Goode/Roy Moore (Constitution)

2009-2011: John Edwards**/Janet Napolitano (D)
2008: def. Mark Sanford/Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R) and Roy Moore/Tom Tancredo (Constitution)
2011-2013: Janet Napolitano/John Kerry (D)
2013-present: Mitt Romney/Colin Simpson (R)
2012: def. Janet Napolitano/John Kerry (D)
2016: def. Elizabeth Warren/Mark Warner (D)
Colin Simpson/Marco Rubio (R) vs. Sherrod Brown/Kamala Harris (D)


POD: Mark David Chapman kills Carter in September 1980, and Mondale manages to free the hostages and eke out a win over Reagan.
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