List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

The End of History
George HW Bush/Dan Quale 1989-1997

1988: Def. Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1992: Def. Bill Clinton/Jerry Brown, Ross Perot/James Stockdale
John Kerry/Al Gore 1997-2005
1996: Def. Dan Quayle/Bob Dole, Ross Perot/Peter Navarro
2000: Def. Jack Kemp/Donald Rumsfeld, Mike Gravel/Lenora Fulani
Al Gore/Gary Locke 2005-2009
2004: Def. John McCain/George Pataki, Gary Bauer/Rick Santorum, Jesse Ventura/Angus King
Norm Coleman/Fred Thompson 2009-2017
2008: Def. Al Gore/Gary Locke, Mike Huckabee/Jerry Falwell, Jr., Jesse Ventura/David Cobb
2012: Def. Evan Bayh/Mary Landrieu, Bernie Sanders/Dennis Kucinich, Pat Buchanan/Chuck Baldwin
Deval Patrick/Martin O'Malley 2017-2025
2016: Def. Jeb Bush/Tim Scott, Sarah Palin/Ben Carson, Dennis Kucinich/Tulsi Gabbard
2020: Def. Greg Abbott/Bob Corker, Sarah Palin/Paul LePage, John Eder/Andrew Gillum
Nikki Haley/Rob Portman 2025-
2024: Def. Wendy Davis/Greg Orman, Kris Kobach/Matt Bevin, Stacey Abams/Jon Stewart

The basic premise here is the end of the Cold War marked a period similar to what Fukuyama envisioned as 'the end of history.' The People's Republic of China made political reforms in the 1990's thanks to the diplomatic efforts of George HW Bush and the US heps Russia's transition to capitalism in a more orderly manner. With both Russia and China democratizing, the major threat to world peace is terrorist organizations and rogue states who cannot pose an existential threat to the world. The US's two major political parties prove overall moderate and combatting climate change is much more bipartisan.

However, the drawbacks of this apparent utopia quickly materialize. The US regularly engages in overseas military interventions and the post-Vietnam doubt gives way to full-throttle thirst for crusades for democracy. The US ends up falling victim to two major terrorist attacks-an alt-9/11 targetting the Empire State Building and a Hezbollah-perpetrated series of bombings in San Francisco that is used to justify a war with Iran. By 2025, the US has fought wars in the Balkans, Kazakhstan, Sudan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Uganda, Somalia, Afghanistan, the Congo, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea and is still occupying Afghanistan, Venezuela, Kazakhstan, Uganda and Iraq. The war weariness is relatively limited as the wars are increasingly automated and fought via contractors.

An additional drawback is also present: a deeply entrenched neoliberal consensus. The government and major corporations are quite cozy ITTL and the likes of Amazon, Google and Yahoo are very much intertwined with the government. Privacy rights are eroded by both governments and corporations. Beyond that, the banks remain deregulated despite the recession happening more or less on schedule and the interests of the wealthy are prioritized over the rest of the country on most issues besides climate change-the minimum wage remains unraised, taxes have not topped 30% since 2010 and many businesses are considered too big to fail and thus get bailouts.
 
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Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Robert Carr (Conservative) 1986 - 1989
Dennis Skinner (Labour) 1989 - 2000
Hilary Benn (Labour) 2000 - 2007
David Cameron (Conservative) 2007-2017
Amber Rudd (Conservative) 2017-2020
Hilary Benn (Labour) 2020 - 2026
Keir Starmer (Labour) 2026 - 2029
Rebecca Long-Bailey (Labour) 2029 - present


Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Iain Duncan Smith (Conservative) 2006-2009
Diane Abbott (Labour) 2009-2020
Jo Platt (Labour) 2020 - 2027
Robert Jenrick (Conservative) 2027-2037
Chris Skidmore (Conservative) 2037-2040
Miriam Mirwitch (Labour) 2040 - 2046


EDIT: Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Anthony Eden (Conservative) 1946-1949
Aneurin Bevan (Labour) 1959-1970
James Callaghan (Labour) 1970 - 1977
Peter Bottomley (Conservative) 1977-1987
Norman Tebbit (Conservative) 1987-1990
Neil Kinnock (Labour) 1990 - 1996

Shirley Williams (Labour) 1996 - 1999
Jeremy Corbyn (Labour) 1999 - present
 
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Presidents of the United States of America: A President Elect Timeline [Part I]

37th. 1969 − 1977: Sen. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Sen. Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) [1] [2]
def. 1968: Fmr. V.P. Richard Nixon (R-NY) / Gov. Spiro Agnew (R-MD); Fmr. Gov. George Wallace Jr. (AIP-AL) / Fmr. CSAF Curtis LeMay (R-OH)
def. 1972: Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Fmr. Gov. John Connally (Ind.-TX)


38th. 1977 − 1981: Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Sen. Richard Schweiker (R-PA) [3]
def. 1976: V.P. Ralph Yarborough (D-TX) / Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)

39th. 1981 − 1989: Sen. Dale Bumpers (D-AR) / Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) [4] [5]
def. 1980: Pres. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / V.P. Richard Schweiker (R-PA); Rep. John Anderson (Ind.-IL) / Gov. Patrick Lucey (D-WI)

def. 1984: Sen. Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Sen. Robert Dole (R-KS)

40th. 1989 − 1997: Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY) / Sen. Albert Gore (D-TN) [6] [7]
def. 1988: Gov. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Sen. James Buckley (R-CT)

def. 1992: Fmr. Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN) / Gov. Elizabeth Dole (R-KS); Mayor Jesse Jackson Sr. (Freedom-SC) / Activist Lenora Fulani (Freedom-PA)

POD in this TL would be Bobby Kennedy's decision to run for the 1968 Dem nomination since the start and forcing LBJ to a 1-point victory New Hampshire. LBJ withdraws as in OTL, and with only token opposition Kennedy cruises through the primaries. By the Convention, Humphrey's delegate lead is narrow - so once Mayor Daley (after much effort in convincing him) starts talking Midwestern party bosses from non-primary states over to Kennedy's camp, the tides change. Bobby Kennedy wins the first ballot with a peace plank and chooses Ralph Yarborough, progressive Texan senator, as his VP nominee.

[1]: The 1968 election was complicated. While Dem front-runner Humphrey conceded the race graciously once it was clear Kennedy held a majority, LBJ and numerous leaders from the South were unwilling to help Kennedy: the President in particular decided to follow the complicated path of securing his legacy in Vietnam while avoiding helping Kennedy. Meanwhile, GOP candidate Nixon went with a more moderate campaign (albeit the undertone of his "Law and order" slogan) attacking Democratic radicalism; Independent George Wallace moved consequently, pandering to Nixon's base with a Goldwater-y platform. Kennedy's campaign, thinking they were stuck with the "Negro problem" and seeing Nixon's hold of the center decided to double down on liberalism as a way to increase minorities and working-class turnout. As such Kennedy ran as an anti-war economic populist, putting forward «A New Hope for America», an agenda focused on Civil Rights, strengthening unions, slashing poverty and peace in Vietnam.

Nixon held a comfortable advantage over Kennedy throughout Summer and the first half of Autumn, with a +10 to +15 trend. However, the trend steadily decreased as Election Day got closer, and with the now infamous LeMay gaffe ("The enemy's infiltrated labor" rant) gifting RFK momentum with would-be Wallacites in the Midwest, mid-October provided Democrats their first succession of 2-point deficits. A worried Nixon decided to gamble the election making the Paris Peace Talks collapse, using Anna Chennault as a channel to South Vietnamese leadership. And it would have worked perfectly if only the White House hadn't heard them. Johnson was conflicted. Having Nixon's aides sabotaging his peace talks made his blood boil. The thought of being sandwiched between the Kennedys also made his blood boil.
Luckily for Democrats, V.P. Hubert Humphrey was not conflicted. Once he was informed of the sabotage, Humphrey decided he couldn't live knowing Nixon would be elected by treachery, and leaked the info to CBS. The Nixon headquarters had celebrated "South Vietnam abandons negotiation table" headlines for some hours when Walter Cronkite informed the nation of alleged Nixon involvement in said decision, and the press followed suit. Nixon obviously denied the accusation, but the damage was done. In an already neck-to-neck race, voters once cold to the «New Hope» saw it a much preferable option than electing a traitor. Kennedy enjoyed a surge in the 11th hour.

Camelot was back.

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This list was made with the election simulation game President Elect: 1988 Edition. Since the game only covers the campaign I'd do after-action-reports to give sense to the results. I'll be updating tomorrow ;)
Edit: Changed some of the 80s/90s candidates because I had messed up data in the original document I copypasted this post from, now it has been corrected. Couldn't really update because of social life lol, only had time to do the 1968 election summary and infobox. Anyway, what do you guys think?
 
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Initially based off a few games of President Elect where I had no idea what I was doing
34. Lyndon Baines Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
(November 22nd,1963-January 20th,1969)
1964 Def: Barry Goldwater/George Murphy (Republican) Ronald Reagan/George Wallace (State's Rights)
35.Ronald Reagan/Russell B. Long (State's Rights)
(January 20th,1969-January 20th,1977)

1968 Def: Lyndon Baines Johnson/J. Edgar Hoover (Democratic) Malcom X/Martin Luther King Jr (National Alliance for the Advancement of Colored People)
1972 Def: Walter Cronkite/John Connally(Republican) Pat Paulsen/Dick Gregory (Democratic)

36. Richard Nixon/Bob Dole (Republican)
(January 20th,1977-January 20th,1981)

1976 Def: Betty Friedan/Terry Sanford (Democratic) Adalai Stevenson III/Henry M. Jackson (New Democratic)
37.Benjamin Spock† /Bayard Rustin(Socialist)
(January 20th,1981-August 7th,1985)

1980 Def: Bob Dole/James Holshouser (Republican)
1984 Def: Fritz Hollings/Robert McNamara (Democratic-Republican)

38.Bayard Rustin/Vacant(Socialist)
(August 7th,1985-January 20th,1989)
38.Bayard Rustin/Eldridge Cleaver (Socialist)
(January 20th,1989-January 20th,1997)

1988 Def: George McGovern/Jimmy Carter (Democratic) Barry Goldwater/Al D'Amato (Republican)
1992 Def: Otis Bowen/Terrel Bell (Republican)

39.William Webster/Bill Brock (Republican)
(January 20th,1997-January 20th,2005)

1996 Def: John Lewis/Rosa Parks (Socialist)
2000 Def: Carol Moseley Brown/John Murtha (Socialist)

40.Bill Frist/Orrin Hatch (Republican)
(January 20th,2005-January 20th,2009)

2004 Def: Mike Espy/John Lewis (Socialist)
41.Bobby Rush/Frederica Wilson (Socialist)
(January 20th,2009-January 20th,2017)

2008 Def: Bob Bennett/Pete Domenci (Republican)
2012 Def: John Huntsman Jr/Chuck Schumer (Republican)
42.Mike Castle/John Kasich (Republican)
(January 20th,2017-present)

2016 Def: Frederica Wilson/Dona Brazil (Socialist)

Died in Office
 
List of the leaders of the atl British Empire Soviet Union in a pseudo-Timeline I have (does not have any thread, its not a real timeline yet).

Acting Chairman of the Revolutionary Union of Britain:
1. Albert Inkpin, 1920-1928 [1]
2. Harry Pollitt, 1928-1935 [2]
Leaders of the Union of Britannic Syndicalist Commonwealths
3. Harry Pollitt, 1935-1960 [2]
4. John Gollan, 1960-1975 [3]
5. Kenneth Kaunda, 1975-1980 [4]
6. Gordon McLennan, 1980-1983 [5]
7. Bernie Sanders, 1983-1991 [6]
8. Jeremy Corbyn, 1991-1992 [7]

[1] Britain is on the losing side of (an alternate) WW1. Albert Inkpin was the otl leader of the Communist Party of Great Britain in the same time period. He serves as the Lenin analogue.
[2] Another otl leader of CPGB. Stalin analogue. Reorganized the Revolutionary Union into the Britannic Union (At the time consisting of the British Isles, Gambia, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Ghana + Ascension, St Helena and Tristan da Cunha). He also lead UBSC during WW2 (for UBSC it was more like 4 wars. The war against British Empire 1939-1940, the War against Argentina 1941, the war against USA and Mexico 1942-1944, the Second World War proper against Latins (and Yugoslavia) 1944-1945. WW2 proper was 1939-1945 for the actual Allied Powers however)
[3] Another otl leader of CPGB. Khrushchev analogue.
[4] Otl first president of Zambia. Zambia was a part of UBSC from 1947 to 1991 (one of the last to leave), saw West Australian BSC join Loyallist Australia.
[5] Another otl CPGB leader. Presided over some smaller BSCs leaving. Stepped down after reunification of France.
[6] New England was annexed after WW2. Sanders serves as an analogue for Gorbachev. Most of the BSCs left during his time as leader. In 1991 he stepped down as New England declared its independence. Maritimes also left UBSC and joined New England. Zambia and Uganda also left in the same year.
[7] Last leader of UBSC, now reduced to British Isles, South Atlantic Isles and Gibraltar. Ireland would declare independence and he would lead the British Provisional Government until elections could be organised in the Restored United Kingdom of Great Britain. Now leads the Socialist Party of Great Britain, one of three major parties in Britain (the leftiest one). Others are Labour (centre-left) led by Tony Blair and Conservatives (right) led by Boris Johnson.
 
So this is an alternate Presidents and PMs chat but y'all are restricting the time periods from which those, you know, alternate Presidents and PMs come from. Very cool.
I think it's not that you can't use current politicians (based on the other lists here), but you can't have a POD in the OTL current or recent past elections, basically?

Anyway, there's a thread for Current Politics Lists in Chat.
 
Just a quick little list on if Gerald Ford didn't pardon Nixon. Butterflies are that he narrowly clinches the Rep. nomination and a jealous Reagan forms a third party. I'm only going until the 2000 election.

37th. Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew
(20 January, 1969 - 10 October, 1973)

def. 1968: Hubert Humphrey / Edmund Muskie (D), George Wallace / Curtis LeMay (A Ind.)
def. 1972: George McGovern / Sargent Shriver (replacing Thomas Eagleton) (D)
37th. Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford
(10 October, 1973 - 9 August, 1974)
38th. Gerald Ford / Nelson Rockefeller

(9 August, 1974 - 20 January, 1977)
38th. Gerald Ford / Bob Dole
(20 January, 1977 - 20 January, 1981)

def. 1976: Jimmy Carter / Walter Mondale (D), Ronald Reagan / Ben Fernandez (CV)*
39th. Bob Dole / Howard Baker
(20 January, 1981 - 20 January, 1985)

def. 1980: Ted Kennedy / Ed Muskie (D), John Rarick / Ben Fernandez (CV)
40th. John Glenn / Gary W. Hart
(20 January, 1985 - 12 November, 1987)

def. 1984: Bob Dole / Howard Baker (R)
40th. John Glenn / Joe Biden
(21 July, 1988 - 20 January, 1989)

41st. Howard Baker / Jack Kemp
(20 January, 1989 - 20 January, 1993)

def. 1988: John Glenn / Joe Biden (D)
42nd. Mario Cuomo / Ann Richards
(20 January, 1993 - 20 January, 2000
)

def. 1992: Jack Kemp / Alan Simpson (R), Pat Buchanan / Jack Fellure (CV)
def. 1996: Steve Forbes / Phil Gramm (R), Pat Buchanan / Pat Choate (CV)
43rd. John McCain / Lamar Alexander
(20 January, 2001 - Incumbent)

def. 2000. Ann Richards / Bill Bradley (D)

*Conservative Values Party
EDIT: Switched out Orrin Hatch for John McCain as #43
 
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"America runs on McCarthyism"
1953-1957: Joseph McCarthy*/ J. Edgar Hoover (Republican)

1952: Adlai Stevenson/John Sparkman (Democratic)
1956: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert F. Wagner Jr. (Democratic)

1957-1961: J. Edgar Hoover/ Vacant (Republican)
1961: J. Edgar Hoover*/Richard Nixon (Republican)

1960: Hubert Humphrey/Estes Kefauver (Democratic)
1961-1962: Richard Nixon/Vacant (Republican)
1962-1965: Richard Nixon/George H. Bender (Republican)
1965-1973: John F. Kennedy/ Pat Brown (Democratic)
1964: Richard Nixon/ John W. Byrnes (Republican)
1968: Dewey F. Bartlett/ Clifford P. Chase (Republican) and
George Wallace/Storm Thurmond (American Independent)
1973-1981: Terry Stanford/Mike Gravel (Democratic)

1972: John Tower/John Volpe (D) and George Wallace/A.B. Happy Chandler (American Independent)
1976: John Connally/Eugene McCarthy (Indepdent) and Roger MacBride/Charles Percy (Republican)
1981-1989: Elvis Presley/ Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (American)
1980: Sargent Shriver/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic) and John B. Anderson/Howard Baker (Republican)
1984: Jerry Brown/Walter Fauntroy (Democratic), George H.W. Bush/Phil Crane (Independent), and John Danforth/Charles Mathias (Republican)
1989-1997: Gary Hart/Paul Simon (Democratic)

1988: Lowell P. Weicker Jr./Ron Paul (American) and Donald Rumsfeld/Paul Laxalt (Republican)
1992: Gordon J. Humphrey/Andre Marrou (American)
1997-2005: Vince McMahon/Jesse Jackson (American)

1996: Bill Clinton*/Tom Harkin (Democratic) and Howard Baker/Richard Lugar (New-Age Republican)
2000: Orrin Hatch/Elizabeth Dole (New-Age Republican) and Ralph Nader/Alan Keyes (Democratic)
2005-2009: Jesse Jackson/Steve Forbes (American)

2004: Carol Moseley Braun/Bob Graham (Democratic) and Jesse Ventura/John McCain (New-Age Republican)
2009-2013: Jesse Jackson/Jim Gilmore (American)
2008: Fred Thompson/Cynthia McKinney (New-Age Republican) and Evan Bayh/Bob Barr (Democratic)
2013-2015: Fred Thompson*/Michele Bachmann (New-Age Republican)
2012: Rocky Anderson/Jim Gray (Democratic) and Jim Gilmore/Rick Parry (American)
2015-2017: Michele Bachmann/ Vacant (New-Age Republican)
2017-incumbent: Michele Bachmann/George Pataki (New-Age Republican)
2016: Darrell Castle/Ted Cruz (American) and Gary Johnson/Jim Webb (Democratic)

1. Successfully impeached from office
2. Assassinated
3. Even if he won, Bill Clinton would've had to resign due to his numerous sexual assault allegations.
4. Died in Office


I don't really have a write up yet, I may go back and write one some time.
 
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