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List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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We're all related if you go back far enough.
I've seen an estimate that all people with English ancestry are at least thirtieth cousins.
A Stronger Heart
1997-2005: John Smith (Labour)
2005-2010: Ken Clarke (Conservative)
2010-present: Tony Blair (Labour)
To be frank, the 1997 landslide was always coming. Smith had the momentum and the charisma, and while afaik he didn't have the press on his side like Blair and Campbell did, he did have a public that was very, very pissed off with eighteen years of Tory rule. Labour wins in a landslide.
So Smith doesn't have a heart attack, and a lot of what happened between 1997 and 2001 still happens as IOTL. Devolution for Scotland and Wales, the NHS is saved, Brown doesn't take Britain into the Euro, the Good Friday Agreement, minimum wage, education (education education), as well as all the neoliberal shit associated with Blair IOTL. However, he also renationalises the railways, he doesn't govern by moral panic, he probably advances gay and trans rights much better than Blair did, and basically his time in power isn't so fucking depressing. Probably doesn't follow Bush into Iraq or erode civil liberties either, but God only knows.
Now, Labour wins 2001, but by a smaller majority due to the lack of a Campbell manipulating the press. The Tories boot Hague anyway, so IDS loses on the third ballot and Clarke narrowly beats Portillo (who still loses his seat in 1997 ITTL) in the public vote. The Eurosceptic bloc begrudgingly accepts Clarke's election for the sake of party unity, and as Smith appears more tired by the day, Clarke leads the Tories to a clean majority in 2005. This, of course, means the Tories are blamed for the financial crisis, and Tony Blair (with the help of Campbell et al) secures another Labour majority in 2010.
This is not a utopia by any means. There's no Brexit, sure, and if Blair knows which way the wind is blowing there's no austerity, but he still governs as an authoritarian president, and (assuming 2000 plays out identically in Florida ITTL) he'll probably be just as interventionist in the Middle East and chummy with Obama as he would have been this decade IOTL. Also, Blair would undoubtedly throw the growing English nationalist bloc a large number of bones, mainly on immigration and blue passports, but he'd still keep Britain aligned with the EU as much as possible. That being said, Boris Johnson's Tories are surging in the polls, but seeing as the UK's nearing another recession in the next year or so, there's a growing chance that Blair'll call an election soon in the hopes that the Tories will win and own this one too.
1997-2005: John Smith (Labour)
2005-2010: Ken Clarke (Conservative)
2010-present: Tony Blair (Labour)
To be frank, the 1997 landslide was always coming. Smith had the momentum and the charisma, and while afaik he didn't have the press on his side like Blair and Campbell did, he did have a public that was very, very pissed off with eighteen years of Tory rule. Labour wins in a landslide.
So Smith doesn't have a heart attack, and a lot of what happened between 1997 and 2001 still happens as IOTL. Devolution for Scotland and Wales, the NHS is saved, Brown doesn't take Britain into the Euro, the Good Friday Agreement, minimum wage, education (education education), as well as all the neoliberal shit associated with Blair IOTL. However, he also renationalises the railways, he doesn't govern by moral panic, he probably advances gay and trans rights much better than Blair did, and basically his time in power isn't so fucking depressing. Probably doesn't follow Bush into Iraq or erode civil liberties either, but God only knows.
Now, Labour wins 2001, but by a smaller majority due to the lack of a Campbell manipulating the press. The Tories boot Hague anyway, so IDS loses on the third ballot and Clarke narrowly beats Portillo (who still loses his seat in 1997 ITTL) in the public vote. The Eurosceptic bloc begrudgingly accepts Clarke's election for the sake of party unity, and as Smith appears more tired by the day, Clarke leads the Tories to a clean majority in 2005. This, of course, means the Tories are blamed for the financial crisis, and Tony Blair (with the help of Campbell et al) secures another Labour majority in 2010.
This is not a utopia by any means. There's no Brexit, sure, and if Blair knows which way the wind is blowing there's no austerity, but he still governs as an authoritarian president, and (assuming 2000 plays out identically in Florida ITTL) he'll probably be just as interventionist in the Middle East and chummy with Obama as he would have been this decade IOTL. Also, Blair would undoubtedly throw the growing English nationalist bloc a large number of bones, mainly on immigration and blue passports, but he'd still keep Britain aligned with the EU as much as possible. That being said, Boris Johnson's Tories are surging in the polls, but seeing as the UK's nearing another recession in the next year or so, there's a growing chance that Blair'll call an election soon in the hopes that the Tories will win and own this one too.
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List of President-Prime-Minister of the United States
1. Andrew Johnson (National Union)
(August 2nd,1861- March 2nd,1867)
1862 Def: Jefferson Davis (Nonpartisan)
1866 Has the house lost confidence in the leadership of President-Prime Minister Johnson? Y [29] N [84]
2.Hannibal Hamblin (Radical Republican)
(March 2nd,1867-September 19th,1867)
1866 Def: Andrew Johnson (National Union)
1867 Has the house lost confidence in the leadership of President-Prime Minister Hamblin? Y [83] N [30]
3. John F. Lewis (Radical Republican)
(September 19th,1867-March 2nd,1868)
4. Andrew Johnson (National Union)
(March 2nd,1868-March 2nd,1877)
1868 Def: John F. Lewis (Radical Republican)
1872 Def: William A. Wheeler (Independent)
5.Frederick Frelinghuysen (Radical Republican)
(March 2nd,1877-March 2nd,1885)
1876 Def: Green Clay Smith (Prohibition)
1880 Def: Chester A. Arthur (National Union)
6.Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar II (National Union)
(March 2nd,1885-March 2nd,1893)
1884 Def:William Crowninshield Endicott (Radical Republican)
1888 Def: James Longstreet (National Order)
7.P.B.S Pinchback (National Order)
(March 2nd,1893- March 2nd,1909)
1892 Def: Grover Cleveland (Radical Republican)
1900 Def: Belva Anne Lockwood (National Women's Party)
8. John Sharp Williams (National Union)
(March 2nd,1909-March 2nd,1921)
1908 Def: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
9. Ida B. Wells (African Women's Party)
(March 2nd,1921-March 2nd,1929)
1920 Def:Ellison Durant Smith (Conservative)
10.Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
(March 2nd,1929-March 2nd,1937)
1928 Def: Ben M. Williamson (Conservative)
11. Ellison Durant Smith (Conservative)
(March 2nd,1937-March 2nd,1945)
1936 Def: Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
12. Harry S. Truman (National Union)
(March 2nd,1945-March 2nd,1961)
1944 Def: Gracie Allen (Surprise)
1952 Def: Margaret Sanger (National Socialist Women's Movement)
13. Barry Goldwater (National Union)
(March 2nd,1961- March 2nd,1977)
1960 Def: John F. Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative) Russell B. Long (Straight-Out Conservative)
1968 Def: Martin Luther King Jr. (National State's Rights Alliance) Lyndon B. Johnson (Conservative)
14.James Eastland (National State's Rights Alliance)
(March 2nd,1977-March 2nd,1985)
1976 Def: Malcom X (Rallying Cry for Revolt)
15. Fritz Hollings (Conservative)
(March 2nd,1985-March 2nd,1993)
1984 Def:Ted Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative) Elvis Presley (Independent)
16. Harrison Ford (National Union)
(March 2nd,1993-March 2nd,2001)
1992 Def: Joseph P. Kennedy II (Progressive-Conservative) Bob Dole (Conservative)
17.Arnold Schwarzenegger Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative)
(March 2nd,2001-March 2nd,2017)
2000 Def: Clint Eastwood (National Union)
2008 Def: Rick Perry (National Union)
18.Brian Sandoval (National Union)
(March 2nd,2017-present)
2016 Def: Caroline Bouvier Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative)
1. Andrew Johnson (National Union)
(August 2nd,1861- March 2nd,1867)
1862 Def: Jefferson Davis (Nonpartisan)
1866 Has the house lost confidence in the leadership of President-Prime Minister Johnson? Y [29] N [84]
2.Hannibal Hamblin (Radical Republican)
(March 2nd,1867-September 19th,1867)
1866 Def: Andrew Johnson (National Union)
1867 Has the house lost confidence in the leadership of President-Prime Minister Hamblin? Y [83] N [30]
3. John F. Lewis (Radical Republican)
(September 19th,1867-March 2nd,1868)
4. Andrew Johnson (National Union)
(March 2nd,1868-March 2nd,1877)
1868 Def: John F. Lewis (Radical Republican)
1872 Def: William A. Wheeler (Independent)
5.Frederick Frelinghuysen (Radical Republican)
(March 2nd,1877-March 2nd,1885)
1876 Def: Green Clay Smith (Prohibition)
1880 Def: Chester A. Arthur (National Union)
6.Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar II (National Union)
(March 2nd,1885-March 2nd,1893)
1884 Def:William Crowninshield Endicott (Radical Republican)
1888 Def: James Longstreet (National Order)
7.P.B.S Pinchback (National Order)
(March 2nd,1893- March 2nd,1909)
1892 Def: Grover Cleveland (Radical Republican)
1900 Def: Belva Anne Lockwood (National Women's Party)
8. John Sharp Williams (National Union)
(March 2nd,1909-March 2nd,1921)
1908 Def: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive)
9. Ida B. Wells (African Women's Party)
(March 2nd,1921-March 2nd,1929)
1920 Def:Ellison Durant Smith (Conservative)
10.Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
(March 2nd,1929-March 2nd,1937)
1928 Def: Ben M. Williamson (Conservative)
11. Ellison Durant Smith (Conservative)
(March 2nd,1937-March 2nd,1945)
1936 Def: Hiram Johnson (Progressive)
12. Harry S. Truman (National Union)
(March 2nd,1945-March 2nd,1961)
1944 Def: Gracie Allen (Surprise)
1952 Def: Margaret Sanger (National Socialist Women's Movement)
13. Barry Goldwater (National Union)
(March 2nd,1961- March 2nd,1977)
1960 Def: John F. Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative) Russell B. Long (Straight-Out Conservative)
1968 Def: Martin Luther King Jr. (National State's Rights Alliance) Lyndon B. Johnson (Conservative)
14.James Eastland (National State's Rights Alliance)
(March 2nd,1977-March 2nd,1985)
1976 Def: Malcom X (Rallying Cry for Revolt)
15. Fritz Hollings (Conservative)
(March 2nd,1985-March 2nd,1993)
1984 Def:Ted Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative) Elvis Presley (Independent)
16. Harrison Ford (National Union)
(March 2nd,1993-March 2nd,2001)
1992 Def: Joseph P. Kennedy II (Progressive-Conservative) Bob Dole (Conservative)
17.Arnold Schwarzenegger Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative)
(March 2nd,2001-March 2nd,2017)
2000 Def: Clint Eastwood (National Union)
2008 Def: Rick Perry (National Union)
18.Brian Sandoval (National Union)
(March 2nd,2017-present)
2016 Def: Caroline Bouvier Kennedy (Progressive-Conservative)
The Morning After Camelot.
POD: Ronald Reagan, Democrat, is impressed with the entreaties of GM, and even retains regular contact with Lemuel Boulware, but opts to run for what had been the Senate seat held by Richard Nixon instead of taking the job with them in 1954. Senator Reagan and Senator Jack Kennedy become fast friends, and the rest is (alternate) history.
Presidents/Vice Presidents of the United States 1961-present:
John F. Kennedy (Democratic)/Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic) 1961-1963
Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic)/Eugene J. McCarthy (Democratic) 1963-1969
Barry M. Goldwater (Republican)/Thruston B. Morton (Republican) 1969-1977
Eugene J. McCarthy (Democratic)/Lloyd M. Bentsen Jr. (Democratic) 1977-1985
Pierre S. "Pete" du Pont IV (Republican)/Paul D. Laxalt (Republican) 1985-1993
Robert P. Casey Sr. (Democratic)/Samuel A. Nunn Jr. (Democratic) 1993-2000
Samuel A. Nunn Jr. (Democratic)/Robert J. "Bob" Miller (Democratic) 2000-2005
Barry M. Goldwater Jr. (Republican)/John Kenneth "Ken" Blackwell (Republican) 2005-2013
Harold E. Ford Jr. (Democratic)/Artur G, Davis (Democratic) 2013-2021
POD: Ronald Reagan, Democrat, is impressed with the entreaties of GM, and even retains regular contact with Lemuel Boulware, but opts to run for what had been the Senate seat held by Richard Nixon instead of taking the job with them in 1954. Senator Reagan and Senator Jack Kennedy become fast friends, and the rest is (alternate) history.
Presidents/Vice Presidents of the United States 1961-present:
John F. Kennedy (Democratic)/Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic) 1961-1963
Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic)/Eugene J. McCarthy (Democratic) 1963-1969
Barry M. Goldwater (Republican)/Thruston B. Morton (Republican) 1969-1977
Eugene J. McCarthy (Democratic)/Lloyd M. Bentsen Jr. (Democratic) 1977-1985
Pierre S. "Pete" du Pont IV (Republican)/Paul D. Laxalt (Republican) 1985-1993
Robert P. Casey Sr. (Democratic)/Samuel A. Nunn Jr. (Democratic) 1993-2000
Samuel A. Nunn Jr. (Democratic)/Robert J. "Bob" Miller (Democratic) 2000-2005
Barry M. Goldwater Jr. (Republican)/John Kenneth "Ken" Blackwell (Republican) 2005-2013
Harold E. Ford Jr. (Democratic)/Artur G, Davis (Democratic) 2013-2021
“Kennedy/Reagan is too OP on charisma, please nerf.”-Richard Nixon, 1960
Darkhorses: Fresh Slate in the Loathing of '76
18(second term): Ulysses S Grant(March 4 1873-March 4 1877)/Henry Wilson*(March 4 1873-November 22 1875)
-Election of 1876: Oliver P Morton/William A Wheeler(Republican) vs Samuel J Tilden/Thomas A Hendricks(Democrat)[1]
19(first term): Oliver P Morton*/William A Wheeler(March 4 1877-November 1 1877)
20(first term): William A Wheeler(November 1 1877-March 4 1881)
-Election of 1880: John Sherman/Elihu B Washburne(Republican) vs Winfield Scott Hancock/Allen G Thurman(Democrat)[2]
21(first term): Winfield Scott Hancock/Allen G Thurman(March 4 1881-March 4 1885)[3]
-Election of 1884: Grover Cleveland/Thomas A Hendricks(Democrat) vs Thomas C Platt/Joseph R Hawley(Republican)
22(first term): Thomas C Platt/Joseph R Hawley(March 4 1885-March 4 1889)[4]
-Election of 1888: Thomas C Platt/William B Allison(Republican) vs Allen G Thurman/Isaac P Grey(Democrat) vs James B Weaver/Abram Hewitt(Populist)
22(second term): Thomas C Platt/William B Allison(March 4 1889-March 4 1893)
-Election of 1892: William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid(Republican) vs James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(Democrat)
23(first term): James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(March 4 1893-March 4 1897)
-Election of 1896: James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(Democrat) vs Thomas B Reed/Shelby M Cullom(Republican)
23(second term): James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(March 4 1897-March 4 1901)
-Election of 1900: Wharton Barker/Augustus Van Wyck(Democrat) vs William McKinley/Mark Hanna(Republican) vs Daniel D Leon/Eugene V Debs(Socialist)[5]
24(first term): Wharton Barker/Augustus Van Wyck(March 4 1901-March 4 1905)
-Election of 1904: William Jennings Bryan/Augustus Van Wyck(Democrat) vs Robert M.La Follette Sr/William Howard Taft(Republican) vs Daniel D Leon/Eugene V Debs(Socialist)
25(first term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/William Howard Taft(March 4 1905-March 4 1909)
-Election of 1908: Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(Republican) vs Milford W Howard/John W Kern(Democrat)
25(second term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(March 4 1909-March 4 1913)
-Election of 1912: Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(Republican) vs Oscar Underwood/Woodrow Wilson(Democrat) vs Eugene V Debs/Emil Seidel(Socialist)
25(third term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(March 4 1913-March 4 1917)
-Election of 1916: Theodore E Burton/Albert B Cummings(Republican) vs William Randolph Hearst/Elias Charles Disney(Democrat)[6]
26(first term): William Randolph Hearst/Elias Disney(March 4 1917-March 4 1921)
-Election of 1920: Elias Charles Disney/Osiah Clementine(Democrat) vs John Harvey Kellogg/Jack Warner(Republican)
27(first term): Elias Charles Disney/Osiah Clementine(March 4 1921-March 4 1925)
[1]Morton ascends with the controversy of Hayes(it was out of their hands, mainly their campaigners). However with his early death, this leads a VP turned president without the baggage. A men without enemies, but not all that charismatic, there is a question on whether to have him run for a term of his own
[2]Though an attempt is made to draft Wheeler again, and he competes with Grant and Blaine, the choice of John Sherman is made by Garfield. However the Democrats have been making gains, and they win 1880. Garfield is blamed for choosing "the wrong candidate" by some, though it was a close election anyway.
[3]Though a respectable president, Hancock declines running for a second term out of growing disinterest. Cleveland seems that face, however he is hurt by a sex scandal and ultimately the keen manipulations of Conkling see Platt in power(it was something he wanted, but he is one to talk about scandals).
[4]The 22nd president proves adept at the game of politics, managing to get himself elected a second time. But once more, social issues and issues abroad are brought up. A Populist attempt sees much of the tenants adopted by the Democrats, resulting in the eight year presidency of James Kyle
[5]The winning streak had to end. President Barker got in through a controversial three-way election, with a powerful showing of the Socialists. Many felt the Socialists had thrown their lot at the end of the day to tip the scales to the Dems, not having a real chance of their own victory. Ultimately a progressive model of Fighting Bob emerged as president. The name would be accurate, for he was president ultimately when the First Great War began in 1911, thus leading to him being the first to be elected for a third term. Though he promised only because of the war going on at the time.
[6]The controversial President Hearst benefited from the peace time, focusing on social reforms. A darkhorse, he promised only to run for one term and would always regret that. He had one of the most active post-presidencies. Disney, father of Walt Disney IOTL, proved a much more fitting replacement, and like Hearst promised only one term. Osiah Clementine doesn't exist in our timeline. Jack Warner is an ATL relative of the Warner brothers, born after the divergence. The Kellogg exists OTL, but has a rather different life due to butterfly effect
Abridged list
18(second term): Ulysses S Grant(March 4 1873-March 4 1877)/Henry Wilson*(March 4 1873-November 22 1875)
-Election of 1876: Oliver P Morton/William A Wheeler(Republican) vs Samuel J Tilden/Thomas A Hendricks(Democrat)[1]
19(first term): Oliver P Morton*/William A Wheeler(March 4 1877-November 1 1877)
20(first term): William A Wheeler(November 1 1877-March 4 1881)
-Election of 1880: John Sherman/Elihu B Washburne(Republican) vs Winfield Scott Hancock/Allen G Thurman(Democrat)[2]
21(first term): Winfield Scott Hancock/Allen G Thurman(March 4 1881-March 4 1885)[3]
-Election of 1884: Grover Cleveland/Thomas A Hendricks(Democrat) vs Thomas C Platt/Joseph R Hawley(Republican)
22(first term): Thomas C Platt/Joseph R Hawley(March 4 1885-March 4 1889)[4]
-Election of 1888: Thomas C Platt/William B Allison(Republican) vs Allen G Thurman/Isaac P Grey(Democrat) vs James B Weaver/Abram Hewitt(Populist)
22(second term): Thomas C Platt/William B Allison(March 4 1889-March 4 1893)
-Election of 1892: William McKinley/Whitelaw Reid(Republican) vs James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(Democrat)
23(first term): James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(March 4 1893-March 4 1897)
-Election of 1896: James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(Democrat) vs Thomas B Reed/Shelby M Cullom(Republican)
23(second term): James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(March 4 1897-March 4 1901)
-Election of 1900: Wharton Barker/Augustus Van Wyck(Democrat) vs William McKinley/Mark Hanna(Republican) vs Daniel D Leon/Eugene V Debs(Socialist)[5]
24(first term): Wharton Barker/Augustus Van Wyck(March 4 1901-March 4 1905)
-Election of 1904: William Jennings Bryan/Augustus Van Wyck(Democrat) vs Robert M.La Follette Sr/William Howard Taft(Republican) vs Daniel D Leon/Eugene V Debs(Socialist)
25(first term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/William Howard Taft(March 4 1905-March 4 1909)
-Election of 1908: Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(Republican) vs Milford W Howard/John W Kern(Democrat)
25(second term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(March 4 1909-March 4 1913)
-Election of 1912: Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(Republican) vs Oscar Underwood/Woodrow Wilson(Democrat) vs Eugene V Debs/Emil Seidel(Socialist)
25(third term): Robert M.La Follette Sr/George L Sheldon(March 4 1913-March 4 1917)
-Election of 1916: Theodore E Burton/Albert B Cummings(Republican) vs William Randolph Hearst/Elias Charles Disney(Democrat)[6]
26(first term): William Randolph Hearst/Elias Disney(March 4 1917-March 4 1921)
-Election of 1920: Elias Charles Disney/Osiah Clementine(Democrat) vs John Harvey Kellogg/Jack Warner(Republican)
27(first term): Elias Charles Disney/Osiah Clementine(March 4 1921-March 4 1925)
[1]Morton ascends with the controversy of Hayes(it was out of their hands, mainly their campaigners). However with his early death, this leads a VP turned president without the baggage. A men without enemies, but not all that charismatic, there is a question on whether to have him run for a term of his own
[2]Though an attempt is made to draft Wheeler again, and he competes with Grant and Blaine, the choice of John Sherman is made by Garfield. However the Democrats have been making gains, and they win 1880. Garfield is blamed for choosing "the wrong candidate" by some, though it was a close election anyway.
[3]Though a respectable president, Hancock declines running for a second term out of growing disinterest. Cleveland seems that face, however he is hurt by a sex scandal and ultimately the keen manipulations of Conkling see Platt in power(it was something he wanted, but he is one to talk about scandals).
[4]The 22nd president proves adept at the game of politics, managing to get himself elected a second time. But once more, social issues and issues abroad are brought up. A Populist attempt sees much of the tenants adopted by the Democrats, resulting in the eight year presidency of James Kyle
[5]The winning streak had to end. President Barker got in through a controversial three-way election, with a powerful showing of the Socialists. Many felt the Socialists had thrown their lot at the end of the day to tip the scales to the Dems, not having a real chance of their own victory. Ultimately a progressive model of Fighting Bob emerged as president. The name would be accurate, for he was president ultimately when the First Great War began in 1911, thus leading to him being the first to be elected for a third term. Though he promised only because of the war going on at the time.
[6]The controversial President Hearst benefited from the peace time, focusing on social reforms. A darkhorse, he promised only to run for one term and would always regret that. He had one of the most active post-presidencies. Disney, father of Walt Disney IOTL, proved a much more fitting replacement, and like Hearst promised only one term. Osiah Clementine doesn't exist in our timeline. Jack Warner is an ATL relative of the Warner brothers, born after the divergence. The Kellogg exists OTL, but has a rather different life due to butterfly effect
Abridged list
- 18: Ulysses S Grant(1869-1877)/Schuyler Colfax(1869-1873), Henry Wilson*(1873-1875)
- 19: Oliver P Morton*/William A Wheeler(1877)
- 20: William A Wheeler(1877-1881)
- 21: Winfield Scott Hancock/Allen G Thurman(1881-1885)
- 22: Thomas C Platt(1885-1893)/Joseph R Hawley(1885-1889), William B Allison(1889-1893)
- 23: James H Kyle/Allen B Morse(1893-1901)
- 24: Wharton Barker/Augustus Van Wyck(1901-1905)
- 25: Robert M.La Follette(1905-1917)/William H Taft(1905-1909), George L Sheldon(1909-1917)
- 26: William Randolph Hearst/Elias Charles Disney(1917-1921)
- 27: Elias Charles Disney/Oscar Clementine(1921-1925)
Continuing Dixie Dies in Depression, or The Clay That Binds Us......
Presidents of the Federation of American States, 1904-present
Jonathan P. Dolliver (Republican)/Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican) 1904-1908
def 1903: William J. Bryan (People's)/Marion Butler (People's); Joseph C. Breckinridge Sr.(New Democratic)/William D. Bloxham (New Democratic)
Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican)/Francis E. Warren (Republican) 1908-1912
def 1907: Henry M. Teller (People's)/Thomas E. Watson (People's); George B. McClellan Jr. (New Democratic)/David G. Tyler (New Democratic)
William J. Bryan (People's)/Whitmell P. Martin (People's) 1912-1920
def 1911: Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican)/Francis E. Warren (Republican); Judson Harmon (New Democratic)/Oscar Underwood (New Democratic); Emil Seidel (Socialist)/T. Woodrow Wilson (Socialist)
def 1915: Charles E. Hughes Sr. (Republican)/Richard W. Austin (Republican); Eugene N. Foss (New Democratic)/George E. Chamberlain Sr (New Democratic)
Leonard Wood (Republican)/Miles Poindexter (Republican) 1920-1927
def 1919: Whitmell P. Martin (People's)/Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (People's); John W. Davis (New Democratic)/John S. Williams (New Democratic); Parley P. Christensen (socialist)/William G. McAdoo (Socialist)
def 1923: John M. Parker (People's)/Burton K. Wheeler (People's); Alfred E. Smith (New Democratic)/Carter Glass (New Democratic)
Miles Poindexter (Republican)/VACANT 1927-1928
Miles Poindexter (Republican)/Nicholas M. Butler (Republican) 1928-1936
def 1927: Charles W. Bryan (People's)/Cordell Hull (Progressive); Thomas J. Walsh (New Democratic)/Joseph T. Robinson (New Democratic)
def 1931: Huey P. Long Jr. (People's)/Newton D. Baker (People's); George White (New Democratic)/John N. Garner (New Democratic)
Louis D. Brandeis (People's)/William O. Douglas (People's) 1936-1944
def 1935: Miles Poindexter (Republican)/Nicholas M. Butler (Republican)/David I. Walsh (New Democratic)/Albert C. Ritchie (New Democratic)
def 1939: Hanford MacNider (Republican)/Henry W. Anderson (Republican); Paul V. McNutt (New Democratic)/Louis A. Johnson (New Democratic)
William O. Douglas (People's)/Lyndon B. Johnson (People's) 1944-1952
def 1943: Arthur H. James (Republican)/John Jennings Jr (Republican); Scott W. Lucas (New Democratic)/J. Melvlle Broughton (New Democratic)
def 1947: Harold E. Stassen (Republican)/Kenneth H. Tuggle (Republican); Joseph C. O'Mahoney (New Democratic)/Richard B. Russell Jr. (New Democratic)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)/W. Chapman Revercomb (Republican) 1952-1960
def 1951: Lyndon B. Johnson (People's)/Oscar R. Ewing (People's); Adlai E. Stevenson II (New Democratic)/J. William Fulbright (New Democratic)
def 1955: Hubert H. Humphrey (People's)/Claude D. Pepper); Paul A. Dever (New Democratic)/C. Estes Kefauver (New Democratic)
I may or may not continue this one.
Presidents of the Federation of American States, 1904-present
Jonathan P. Dolliver (Republican)/Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican) 1904-1908
def 1903: William J. Bryan (People's)/Marion Butler (People's); Joseph C. Breckinridge Sr.(New Democratic)/William D. Bloxham (New Democratic)
Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican)/Francis E. Warren (Republican) 1908-1912
def 1907: Henry M. Teller (People's)/Thomas E. Watson (People's); George B. McClellan Jr. (New Democratic)/David G. Tyler (New Democratic)
William J. Bryan (People's)/Whitmell P. Martin (People's) 1912-1920
def 1911: Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican)/Francis E. Warren (Republican); Judson Harmon (New Democratic)/Oscar Underwood (New Democratic); Emil Seidel (Socialist)/T. Woodrow Wilson (Socialist)
def 1915: Charles E. Hughes Sr. (Republican)/Richard W. Austin (Republican); Eugene N. Foss (New Democratic)/George E. Chamberlain Sr (New Democratic)
Leonard Wood (Republican)/Miles Poindexter (Republican) 1920-1927
def 1919: Whitmell P. Martin (People's)/Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (People's); John W. Davis (New Democratic)/John S. Williams (New Democratic); Parley P. Christensen (socialist)/William G. McAdoo (Socialist)
def 1923: John M. Parker (People's)/Burton K. Wheeler (People's); Alfred E. Smith (New Democratic)/Carter Glass (New Democratic)
Miles Poindexter (Republican)/VACANT 1927-1928
Miles Poindexter (Republican)/Nicholas M. Butler (Republican) 1928-1936
def 1927: Charles W. Bryan (People's)/Cordell Hull (Progressive); Thomas J. Walsh (New Democratic)/Joseph T. Robinson (New Democratic)
def 1931: Huey P. Long Jr. (People's)/Newton D. Baker (People's); George White (New Democratic)/John N. Garner (New Democratic)
Louis D. Brandeis (People's)/William O. Douglas (People's) 1936-1944
def 1935: Miles Poindexter (Republican)/Nicholas M. Butler (Republican)/David I. Walsh (New Democratic)/Albert C. Ritchie (New Democratic)
def 1939: Hanford MacNider (Republican)/Henry W. Anderson (Republican); Paul V. McNutt (New Democratic)/Louis A. Johnson (New Democratic)
William O. Douglas (People's)/Lyndon B. Johnson (People's) 1944-1952
def 1943: Arthur H. James (Republican)/John Jennings Jr (Republican); Scott W. Lucas (New Democratic)/J. Melvlle Broughton (New Democratic)
def 1947: Harold E. Stassen (Republican)/Kenneth H. Tuggle (Republican); Joseph C. O'Mahoney (New Democratic)/Richard B. Russell Jr. (New Democratic)
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican)/W. Chapman Revercomb (Republican) 1952-1960
def 1951: Lyndon B. Johnson (People's)/Oscar R. Ewing (People's); Adlai E. Stevenson II (New Democratic)/J. William Fulbright (New Democratic)
def 1955: Hubert H. Humphrey (People's)/Claude D. Pepper); Paul A. Dever (New Democratic)/C. Estes Kefauver (New Democratic)
I may or may not continue this one.
Please do, it's a treat. Also, I'm impressed at the New Dems staving off irrelevance.
Presidents of the Union of American Territories
1.Joseph Taylor Robinson (Federalist Union)
(January 7th, 1915-January 7th,1919)
1914 Def: John Sharp Williams (Constitutional Alliance)
2. John Sharp Williams (Constitutional Alliance)
(January 7th,1919-January 7th,1927)
1918 Def: Gamaliel the Magnificent (Gamaliel For Everyone)
1922 Def: William Gibs McAdoo (Unity of America)
3.Cordell Hull (Federalist Union)†
(January 7th,1927-November 18th,1929)
1926 Def: Al Capone (Socialist)
4. Duncan U. Fletcher (Federalist Union)
(November 18th,1929-January 7th,1931)
5.Douglas MacArthur (Communist)†
(January 7th,1931-August 10th,1946)
1930 Def: Duncan U. Fletcher (Federalist Union)
1934 Def: Elections postponed
1938 Def: elections postponed
1942 Def: elections postponed
6. George Patton (Communist)
(August 10th,1946-January 1st,1947)
7.Dorothy Day (Libertarian Socialist)†
(January 1st,1947-June 2nd,1951)
1946 Def: Ellison Durant Smith (Constitutional Alliance)
1949 Def: Harry S. Truman (Independent)
8.Ammon Hennacy (Libertarian Socialist)
(June 2nd,1951-January 14th,1962)
1952 Def: Omar Bradley (Communist)
1955 Def: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Communist)
1958 Def: Richard Russell Jr. (Anarcho-Communist)
9.Barry Goldwater (Libertarian Socialist)
(January 14th,1962-January 14th,1972)
1961 Def: Lyndon B. Johnson (Communist)
1965 Def: Martin Luther King Jr. (Communist)
1968 Def: Richard Nixon (Communist)
10. Bob Dole (Communist)
(January 14th,1972-January 14th,1981)
1971 Def: Gerald Ford (Libertarian Socialist)
1974 Def: George Wallace (Libertarian Socialist)
1977 Def: Mack Mattingly (Moderate Socialist)
11. Herman Talmadge (Communist)
(January 14th,1981-January 14th,1990)
1980 Def: John C. West (Socialist)
1983 Def: Clint Eastwood (Socialist)
1986 Def: Marylin Monroe (Democratic Socialist)
12. Bill Frist (Democratic Socialist)
(January 14th,1990-January 14th,1993)
1989 Def: Ronald Reagan (Communist)
13. Bill Clinton (Democratic Socialist)
(January 14th,1993-January 14th,1999)
1992: (1st round)
Bill Clinton-41.2%
Bob Ross (Anarco Socialist)-37.2%
Bill Cosby (Communist)-18.7%
None of the Above-2.9%
1992: (2nd round)
Bill Clinton-52.3%
Bob Ross (Anarco Socialist)-37.7%
None of the Above- 10.0%
1995: (1st round)
Bill Clinton-47.5%
Richard Nixon-30.7%
Ross Perot-18.8%
None of the Above-3.0%
1995 (2nd round)
Bill Clinton-58.9%
Richard Nixon-38.6%
None of the Above-2.5%
14. Strom Thurmond (Communist)
(January 14th,1999-January 14th,2002)
1998: (1st round)
Strom Thurmond-45.7%
David Duke-30.9%
Betty White-13.4%
None of the Above-10.0%
1998: (2nd round)
Strom Thurmond-47.4%
David Duke-34.2%
None of the Above-18.4%
1998: (3rd round)
Strom Thurmond-58.1%
David Duke-29.9%
None of the Above-12.0%
† Died in Office
1.Joseph Taylor Robinson (Federalist Union)
(January 7th, 1915-January 7th,1919)
1914 Def: John Sharp Williams (Constitutional Alliance)
2. John Sharp Williams (Constitutional Alliance)
(January 7th,1919-January 7th,1927)
1918 Def: Gamaliel the Magnificent (Gamaliel For Everyone)
1922 Def: William Gibs McAdoo (Unity of America)
3.Cordell Hull (Federalist Union)†
(January 7th,1927-November 18th,1929)
1926 Def: Al Capone (Socialist)
4. Duncan U. Fletcher (Federalist Union)
(November 18th,1929-January 7th,1931)
5.Douglas MacArthur (Communist)†
(January 7th,1931-August 10th,1946)
1930 Def: Duncan U. Fletcher (Federalist Union)
1934 Def: Elections postponed
1938 Def: elections postponed
1942 Def: elections postponed
6. George Patton (Communist)
(August 10th,1946-January 1st,1947)
7.Dorothy Day (Libertarian Socialist)†
(January 1st,1947-June 2nd,1951)
1946 Def: Ellison Durant Smith (Constitutional Alliance)
1949 Def: Harry S. Truman (Independent)
8.Ammon Hennacy (Libertarian Socialist)
(June 2nd,1951-January 14th,1962)
1952 Def: Omar Bradley (Communist)
1955 Def: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Communist)
1958 Def: Richard Russell Jr. (Anarcho-Communist)
9.Barry Goldwater (Libertarian Socialist)
(January 14th,1962-January 14th,1972)
1961 Def: Lyndon B. Johnson (Communist)
1965 Def: Martin Luther King Jr. (Communist)
1968 Def: Richard Nixon (Communist)
10. Bob Dole (Communist)
(January 14th,1972-January 14th,1981)
1971 Def: Gerald Ford (Libertarian Socialist)
1974 Def: George Wallace (Libertarian Socialist)
1977 Def: Mack Mattingly (Moderate Socialist)
11. Herman Talmadge (Communist)
(January 14th,1981-January 14th,1990)
1980 Def: John C. West (Socialist)
1983 Def: Clint Eastwood (Socialist)
1986 Def: Marylin Monroe (Democratic Socialist)
12. Bill Frist (Democratic Socialist)
(January 14th,1990-January 14th,1993)
1989 Def: Ronald Reagan (Communist)
13. Bill Clinton (Democratic Socialist)
(January 14th,1993-January 14th,1999)
1992: (1st round)
Bill Clinton-41.2%
Bob Ross (Anarco Socialist)-37.2%
Bill Cosby (Communist)-18.7%
None of the Above-2.9%
1992: (2nd round)
Bill Clinton-52.3%
Bob Ross (Anarco Socialist)-37.7%
None of the Above- 10.0%
1995: (1st round)
Bill Clinton-47.5%
Richard Nixon-30.7%
Ross Perot-18.8%
None of the Above-3.0%
1995 (2nd round)
Bill Clinton-58.9%
Richard Nixon-38.6%
None of the Above-2.5%
14. Strom Thurmond (Communist)
(January 14th,1999-January 14th,2002)
1998: (1st round)
Strom Thurmond-45.7%
David Duke-30.9%
Betty White-13.4%
None of the Above-10.0%
1998: (2nd round)
Strom Thurmond-47.4%
David Duke-34.2%
None of the Above-18.4%
1998: (3rd round)
Strom Thurmond-58.1%
David Duke-29.9%
None of the Above-12.0%
† Died in Office
Pertinent to this thread I have assembled a list of over two hundred potential dystopian Presidents from across American history. I've posted it in a separate thread due to it's length, which is linked below.
The Worst AH Presidents of All Time- The Nearly Definitive List of potential American Presidents
The Worst AH Presidents of All Time- The Nearly Definitive List of potential American Presidents
Inspired by reading this thread. Note, in both these lists, parties that come after the rise to power are actually factions of the governing party.
Presidents of the United States of America (1932-Present) in Timeline 6119-9-1920
1932-1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX)
1936-1948: Sen. Robert Rice Reynolds (Dixiecrat-Christian Party-NC)/William Dudley Pelley (DC-NY)
1948-1961: Pres. Robert Rice Reynolds (DC-NC)/Gov. Owen Brewster (DC-ME)
1961-1963: Pres. Robert Rice Reynolds (DC-NC)/Sen. Strom Thurmond (DC-SC)
1963-1964: VP Strom Thurmon (DC-SC)/Vacant
1964-1976: Pres. Strom Thurmon (DC-SC)/Gov. George Wallace (DC-AL)
1976-1984: Pres. Strom Thurmon (DC-SC)/Sen. Ronald Reagan (DC-CA)
1984-2000: Pres. Strom Thurmon (DC-SC)/Rep. Pat Robertson (DC-CT)
2000-2012: VP Pat Robertson (DC-CT)/Gov. Ronald Paul (National Party-TX)
2012-Present: VP Ronald Paul (N-TX)/Gov. Sarah Palin (DC-AK)
Presidents of the People's American States (1936-Present) in Timeline 31513-132114-9-1920
1936-44: Journalist Upton Sinclair (Socialist-CA)/Rep. Vito Marcantonio (CPUSA-NY)
1944-54: VP Vito Marcantonio (CPUSA-NY)/Sen. William Z. Foster (CPUSA-MA)
1954-1961: VP William Z. Foster (CPUSA-MA)/Gov. Earl Browder (CPUSA-NJ)
1961-1973: VP Earl Browder (CPUSA-NJ)/Rep. Henry Winston (CPUSA-IN)
1973-1986: VP Henry Winston (CPUSA-IN)/Fmr. Sec. of Labor Lawrence Sanders (Ecological Communist Party-NY)
1986-2016: VP Lawrence Sanders (ECP-NY)/Gloria Estela La Riva (CPUSA-NM)
2016-Present: Gloria Estela La Riva (CPUSA-NM)/Kshama Sawant (Socialist Action-WA)
A different earth than TAOS Prime. Much more fictional presidents
An alternate take on TL-191. Sergeant Chester Martin tripped and failed to save President Roosevelt when the man toured the Roanoke Front in 1915. Vice President Walter McKenna takes the helm, but he's a bland, uninspiring figure of a man. The war effort turns against the United States, resulting in an Entente victory in the Great War. The United States stumbles along, the Socialists frustrated by the loss in 1920, while the Democrats seethe in hatred at the Treaty of Annapolis and the reparations, inflation, and a thoroughly demoralized populace.
The rise of Al Smith to the presidency in 1927, following Leonard Wood's death, infuriates 2nd Lt. Gordon McSweeney and he is further vindicated when the economy collapses in 1929. Railing against the "godless Jewish socialists, the Papist foreign interlopers, and the traitorous Mormons" as well as un-Christian -isms like feminism, socialism, and communism, McSweeney and his Faith Militant march on Philadelphia and overthrow the government. Many in the Democratic Party support him as he promises revenge against the Mormons, Canadians, British, and Confederates while he begins a faith revival of fundamentalist Protestantism. But many, with his blessing, begin to plot against various groups whom they feel do not deserve to live in this new Paradise on a Hill.
McSweeneyite America becomes a horrifying nightmare for the next thirteen years...
Presidents of the United States of America
25. 1889-1897: Thomas Brackett Reid (Democratic)
26. 1897-1905: Alfred Thayer Mahan (Democratic)
27. 1905-1913: Nelson W. Aldrich (Democratic)
28. 1913-1915: Theodore Roosevelt (Democratic)
1912 (with Walter McKenna) def.: Eugene V. Debs / Robert La Follette (Socialist), Albert B. Cummins / Julius C. Burrows (Republican)
29. 1915-1917: Walter McKenna (Democratic)
30. 1917-1921: Eugene V. Debs (Socialist)
1916 (with Robert La Follette) def.: Walter McKenna / Judson Harmon (Democratic), Albert B. Cummins / Theodore E. Burton (Republican)
Treaty of Annapolis (1917) ended the North American theater of the Great War. Part of the Treaty of Paris (1917) which ended the European, African, and Asian theaters.
31. 1921-1927: Leonard Wood (Democratic)
1920 (with Alfred 'Al' Smith) def.: Eugene V. Debs / Robert La Follette (Socialist), Frank Orren Lowden / Miles Poindexter (Republican), Walter McKenna / Judson Harmon (Anti-Wood Democratic)
1924 (with Alfred 'Al' Smith) def.: Upton Sinclair / Hosea Blackford (Socialist), Frank Orren Lowden / Miles Poindexter (Republican)
32. 1927-1931: Alfred 'Al' Smith (Democratic)
1928 def.: Hosea Blackford / Hiram Johnson (Socialist), Miles Poindexter / Victor Murdock (Republican)
March on Philadelphia (1931) by the Army of the Faithful
00. 1931-1931: Gordon McSweeney (Nonpartisan leading Committee of National and Divine Salvation)
First Prophets of the American Christian Republic
01. 1931-1944: Gordon McSweeney (Faithful of America)
Surrender at Reading, 4 July 1944, 6:01 PM.
02. 1944-1944: Henry Ford (Faithful of America)
Did not accept the surrender, was overthrown by General Irving Morrell to enforce the peace.
03. 1944-1944: Irving Morrell (Nonpartisan - Military)
The rise of Al Smith to the presidency in 1927, following Leonard Wood's death, infuriates 2nd Lt. Gordon McSweeney and he is further vindicated when the economy collapses in 1929. Railing against the "godless Jewish socialists, the Papist foreign interlopers, and the traitorous Mormons" as well as un-Christian -isms like feminism, socialism, and communism, McSweeney and his Faith Militant march on Philadelphia and overthrow the government. Many in the Democratic Party support him as he promises revenge against the Mormons, Canadians, British, and Confederates while he begins a faith revival of fundamentalist Protestantism. But many, with his blessing, begin to plot against various groups whom they feel do not deserve to live in this new Paradise on a Hill.
McSweeneyite America becomes a horrifying nightmare for the next thirteen years...
Presidents of the United States of America
25. 1889-1897: Thomas Brackett Reid (Democratic)
26. 1897-1905: Alfred Thayer Mahan (Democratic)
27. 1905-1913: Nelson W. Aldrich (Democratic)
28. 1913-1915: Theodore Roosevelt (Democratic)
1912 (with Walter McKenna) def.: Eugene V. Debs / Robert La Follette (Socialist), Albert B. Cummins / Julius C. Burrows (Republican)
29. 1915-1917: Walter McKenna (Democratic)
30. 1917-1921: Eugene V. Debs (Socialist)
1916 (with Robert La Follette) def.: Walter McKenna / Judson Harmon (Democratic), Albert B. Cummins / Theodore E. Burton (Republican)
Treaty of Annapolis (1917) ended the North American theater of the Great War. Part of the Treaty of Paris (1917) which ended the European, African, and Asian theaters.
31. 1921-1927: Leonard Wood (Democratic)
1920 (with Alfred 'Al' Smith) def.: Eugene V. Debs / Robert La Follette (Socialist), Frank Orren Lowden / Miles Poindexter (Republican), Walter McKenna / Judson Harmon (Anti-Wood Democratic)
1924 (with Alfred 'Al' Smith) def.: Upton Sinclair / Hosea Blackford (Socialist), Frank Orren Lowden / Miles Poindexter (Republican)
32. 1927-1931: Alfred 'Al' Smith (Democratic)
1928 def.: Hosea Blackford / Hiram Johnson (Socialist), Miles Poindexter / Victor Murdock (Republican)
March on Philadelphia (1931) by the Army of the Faithful
00. 1931-1931: Gordon McSweeney (Nonpartisan leading Committee of National and Divine Salvation)
First Prophets of the American Christian Republic
01. 1931-1944: Gordon McSweeney (Faithful of America)
Surrender at Reading, 4 July 1944, 6:01 PM.
02. 1944-1944: Henry Ford (Faithful of America)
Did not accept the surrender, was overthrown by General Irving Morrell to enforce the peace.
03. 1944-1944: Irving Morrell (Nonpartisan - Military)
Deleted member 140587
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Robert Borden - 1911-1920 (Conservative)
Arthur Meighen - 1920-1929 (Conservative)
Ernest Lapointe - 1929-1935 (Liberal)
Robert Manion - 1935-1943 (Conservative)
John Diefenbaker - 1943-1960 (Conservative)
Paul Martin Sr. - 1960-1968 (Liberal)
Robert Winters - 1968-1972 (Liberal)
Robert Stanfield - 1972-1984 (Conservative)
John Turner - 1984-1990 (Liberal)
Jean Charest - 1990-2000 (Conservative)
Paul Martin Jr. - 2000-2006 (Liberal)
Jim Prentice - 2006-2019 (Conservative)
Kevin O'Leary - 2019-Present (Conservative)
The Liberals elect a hardline French successor for Laurier and as a result Meighen and the Tories smash them in the ensuing general elections. The Tories, not the Liberals, are Canada's Natural Governing Party
Robert Borden - 1911-1920 (Conservative)
Arthur Meighen - 1920-1929 (Conservative)
Ernest Lapointe - 1929-1935 (Liberal)
Robert Manion - 1935-1943 (Conservative)
John Diefenbaker - 1943-1960 (Conservative)
Paul Martin Sr. - 1960-1968 (Liberal)
Robert Winters - 1968-1972 (Liberal)
Robert Stanfield - 1972-1984 (Conservative)
John Turner - 1984-1990 (Liberal)
Jean Charest - 1990-2000 (Conservative)
Paul Martin Jr. - 2000-2006 (Liberal)
Jim Prentice - 2006-2019 (Conservative)
Kevin O'Leary - 2019-Present (Conservative)
The Liberals elect a hardline French successor for Laurier and as a result Meighen and the Tories smash them in the ensuing general elections. The Tories, not the Liberals, are Canada's Natural Governing Party
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Presidents of the United States of America:
1913-1921: Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Hiram Johnson (Republican-California)
1912 Def. Governor Woodrow Wilson (Democratic-New Jersey)/Governor Thomas R. Marshall (Democratic-Indiana)/Activist Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Milwaukee Mayor Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1916 Def. Activist Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Representative Ross "Kirk" Kirkpatrick (Socialist-New Jersey)/Representative Peter Gerry (Democratic-Rhode Island)/Senator Franklin "Frank" Hanly (Democratic-Indiana)
1921-1929: Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)/William "Bill" Haywood (Socialist-Utah)
1920 Def. General Leonard Wood (Republican-New Hampshire)/Senator Warren G. Harding (Republican-Ohio)/Governor Edwin T. "Eddie" Meredith (Democratic-Iowa)/Representative John W. Davis (Democratic-West Virginia)
1924 Def. Governor William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic-California)/Governor Albert "Al" Smith (Democratic-New York)/Senator Irvine Lenroot (Republican-Wisconsin)/Former Governor Charles Evans Hughes (Republican-New York)
1929-1933: William Z. Foster (Socialist-Massachusetts)/John Kirkpatrick (Socialist-Illinois)
1928 Def. Senator John Nance Garner (Democratic-Texas)/Senator Burton K. Wheeler (Democratic-Montana)/Governor Herbet Hoover (Republican-California)/Governor Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1933-1941: Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)/William Borah (Republican-Idaho)
1932 Def. Governor Norman Thomas (Farmer-Labor-Anit Fosterite-New York)/Governor Floyd B. Olson (Farmer-Labor-Anti Fosterite-Minnesota)/Former Governor Albert "Al" Smith (Democratic-New York)/Senator Henry Ashhurst (Democratic-Arizona)/President William Z. Foster (Socialist-Massachusetts)/Vice President John Kirkpatrick (Socialist-Illinois)
1936 Def. Former Secretary of War Smedley Buetler (Socialist-Pennsylvania)/Former Secretary of Racial Relations James W. Ford (Socialist-Alabama)/Representative William "Will" Lemke (Democratic-North Dakota)/Former General Hugh S. Johnson (Democratic-Illinois)
1941-1945: Henry Wallace (Socialist-Iowa)/Daniel Hoan (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1940 Def. Vice President William Borah (Republican-Idaho)/Governor Alfred "Alf" Landon (Republican-Kansas)
1945-1953: Henry Wallace (Socialist-Iowa)/Dwight Eisenhower (Nonpartisan-New York)
1944 Def. General Archibald Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Governor Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)
1948 Def. Governor Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)/Representative Edwin P. Morrow (Republican-Kentucky)
1953-1961: Vernon Joseph Baker (Socialist-Wyoming)/Darlington Hoopes (Socialist-Pennsylvania)
1952 Def. Former General Omar Bradley (Republican-Missouri)/Governor Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts)/Senator Strom Thurmond (Dixie-South Carolina)/Senator Harry Byrd (Dixie-Virginia)
1956 Def. Governor Richard "Rich" Nixon (Republican-California)/New York City Mayor Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)
1961-1966: John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy (Republican-Massachusetts)/Margret Chase Smith (Republican-Maine)
1960 Def. Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson (Socialist-Texas)/Secretary of Industrial Affairs Georgia Cozzini (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1964 Def. Senator Henning Blomen (Socialist-Massachusetts)/Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Socialist-Washington)
1966-1973: Margret Chase Smith (Republican-Maine)/Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)
1968 Def. Governor Anna Eleanor Roosevelt (Socialist-New York)/Governor George C. Wallace (Socialist-Alabama)
1973-1981: E. Micheal Harrington (Socialist-New York)/Jesse Jackson (Socialist-South Carolina)
1972 Def. Vice President Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/Secretary of State Charles Matthias (Republican-Maryland)
1976 Def. Governor George W. Bush Sr. (Republican-Texas)/Representative Gerald Ford (Republican-Michigan)
1981-1985: Anne Gorsuch (Republican-Colorado)/Larry Presler (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1980 Def. Vice President Jesse Jackson (Socialist-South Carolina)/Representative Bella Abzug (Socialist-New York)
1985-1993: Bella Abzug (Socialist-New York)/Phillip "Phil" Ochs (Socialist-Texas)
1984 Def. President Anne Gorsuch (Republican-Colorado)/Vice President Larry Presler (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1988 Def. Former Secretary of Culture John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Senator Theodora "Theo" N. Nathan (Republican-Oregon)
1993-1993: Quinn Brisben (Socialist-Illinois)/Gloria La Riva (Socialist-New Mexico)
1992 Def. Senator John Kasich (Republican-Ohio)/Senator Ronald "Ron" Paul (Republican-Texas)
1993-1993: VACANT/VACANT
1993-1997: Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (Socialist-Illinois)/Ernie Chambers (Socialist-Nebraska)
1997-2005: Ernie Chambers (Socialist-Nebraska)/Mary Col Hollis (Socialist-Arkansas)
1996 Def. Former Senator Ronald "Ron" Paul (Republican-Texas)/Senator Lyndon M. LaRouche Jr. (Republican-Virginia)
2000 Def. Senator Victor "Vic" Ashe (Republican-Tennessee)/Former Senator Jack Kemp (Republican-New York)
2005-2017: Victor "Vic" Ashe (Republican-Tennessee)/David Clarke (Republican-Wisconsin)
2004 Def. Senator Stewart Alexander (Socialist-Texas)/Secretary of Industrial Affairs Donald "Don" Plusquellic (Socialist-Ohio)
2008 Def. Former Secretary of the Environment Howard "Howie" Hawkins (Socialist-New York)/Governor Patricia "Pat" LaMarche (Socialist-Maine)
2012 Def. Representative Lawrence "Larry" Sanders (Socialist-New York)/Governor Edward "Ed" Milliband (Socialist-Michigan)
2016 Election: Secretary of State Gary Johnson (Republican-New Mexico)/Senator Sarah Steelman (Republican-Missouri) vs Actor and Activist Mark Ruffalo (Socialist-Wisconsin)/Senator Stephanie "Steph" Cholensky (Socialist-Florida)
Presidents of the United States of America:
1913-1921: Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Hiram Johnson (Republican-California)
1912 Def. Governor Woodrow Wilson (Democratic-New Jersey)/Governor Thomas R. Marshall (Democratic-Indiana)/Activist Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Milwaukee Mayor Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1916 Def. Activist Eugene V. Debs (Socialist-Indiana)/Representative Ross "Kirk" Kirkpatrick (Socialist-New Jersey)/Representative Peter Gerry (Democratic-Rhode Island)/Senator Franklin "Frank" Hanly (Democratic-Indiana)
1921-1929: Emil Seidel (Socialist-Wisconsin)/William "Bill" Haywood (Socialist-Utah)
1920 Def. General Leonard Wood (Republican-New Hampshire)/Senator Warren G. Harding (Republican-Ohio)/Governor Edwin T. "Eddie" Meredith (Democratic-Iowa)/Representative John W. Davis (Democratic-West Virginia)
1924 Def. Governor William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic-California)/Governor Albert "Al" Smith (Democratic-New York)/Senator Irvine Lenroot (Republican-Wisconsin)/Former Governor Charles Evans Hughes (Republican-New York)
1929-1933: William Z. Foster (Socialist-Massachusetts)/John Kirkpatrick (Socialist-Illinois)
1928 Def. Senator John Nance Garner (Democratic-Texas)/Senator Burton K. Wheeler (Democratic-Montana)/Governor Herbet Hoover (Republican-California)/Governor Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1933-1941: Gifford Pinchot (Republican-Pennsylvania)/William Borah (Republican-Idaho)
1932 Def. Governor Norman Thomas (Farmer-Labor-Anit Fosterite-New York)/Governor Floyd B. Olson (Farmer-Labor-Anti Fosterite-Minnesota)/Former Governor Albert "Al" Smith (Democratic-New York)/Senator Henry Ashhurst (Democratic-Arizona)/President William Z. Foster (Socialist-Massachusetts)/Vice President John Kirkpatrick (Socialist-Illinois)
1936 Def. Former Secretary of War Smedley Buetler (Socialist-Pennsylvania)/Former Secretary of Racial Relations James W. Ford (Socialist-Alabama)/Representative William "Will" Lemke (Democratic-North Dakota)/Former General Hugh S. Johnson (Democratic-Illinois)
1941-1945: Henry Wallace (Socialist-Iowa)/Daniel Hoan (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1940 Def. Vice President William Borah (Republican-Idaho)/Governor Alfred "Alf" Landon (Republican-Kansas)
1945-1953: Henry Wallace (Socialist-Iowa)/Dwight Eisenhower (Nonpartisan-New York)
1944 Def. General Archibald Roosevelt (Republican-New York)/Governor Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)
1948 Def. Governor Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)/Representative Edwin P. Morrow (Republican-Kentucky)
1953-1961: Vernon Joseph Baker (Socialist-Wyoming)/Darlington Hoopes (Socialist-Pennsylvania)
1952 Def. Former General Omar Bradley (Republican-Missouri)/Governor Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts)/Senator Strom Thurmond (Dixie-South Carolina)/Senator Harry Byrd (Dixie-Virginia)
1956 Def. Governor Richard "Rich" Nixon (Republican-California)/New York City Mayor Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)
1961-1966: John Fitzgerald "Jack" Kennedy (Republican-Massachusetts)/Margret Chase Smith (Republican-Maine)
1960 Def. Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson (Socialist-Texas)/Secretary of Industrial Affairs Georgia Cozzini (Socialist-Wisconsin)
1964 Def. Senator Henning Blomen (Socialist-Massachusetts)/Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Socialist-Washington)
1966-1973: Margret Chase Smith (Republican-Maine)/Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)
1968 Def. Governor Anna Eleanor Roosevelt (Socialist-New York)/Governor George C. Wallace (Socialist-Alabama)
1973-1981: E. Micheal Harrington (Socialist-New York)/Jesse Jackson (Socialist-South Carolina)
1972 Def. Vice President Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/Secretary of State Charles Matthias (Republican-Maryland)
1976 Def. Governor George W. Bush Sr. (Republican-Texas)/Representative Gerald Ford (Republican-Michigan)
1981-1985: Anne Gorsuch (Republican-Colorado)/Larry Presler (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1980 Def. Vice President Jesse Jackson (Socialist-South Carolina)/Representative Bella Abzug (Socialist-New York)
1985-1993: Bella Abzug (Socialist-New York)/Phillip "Phil" Ochs (Socialist-Texas)
1984 Def. President Anne Gorsuch (Republican-Colorado)/Vice President Larry Presler (Republican-Pennsylvania)
1988 Def. Former Secretary of Culture John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Senator Theodora "Theo" N. Nathan (Republican-Oregon)
1993-1993: Quinn Brisben (Socialist-Illinois)/Gloria La Riva (Socialist-New Mexico)
1992 Def. Senator John Kasich (Republican-Ohio)/Senator Ronald "Ron" Paul (Republican-Texas)
1993-1993: VACANT/VACANT
1993-1997: Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (Socialist-Illinois)/Ernie Chambers (Socialist-Nebraska)
1997-2005: Ernie Chambers (Socialist-Nebraska)/Mary Col Hollis (Socialist-Arkansas)
1996 Def. Former Senator Ronald "Ron" Paul (Republican-Texas)/Senator Lyndon M. LaRouche Jr. (Republican-Virginia)
2000 Def. Senator Victor "Vic" Ashe (Republican-Tennessee)/Former Senator Jack Kemp (Republican-New York)
2005-2017: Victor "Vic" Ashe (Republican-Tennessee)/David Clarke (Republican-Wisconsin)
2004 Def. Senator Stewart Alexander (Socialist-Texas)/Secretary of Industrial Affairs Donald "Don" Plusquellic (Socialist-Ohio)
2008 Def. Former Secretary of the Environment Howard "Howie" Hawkins (Socialist-New York)/Governor Patricia "Pat" LaMarche (Socialist-Maine)
2012 Def. Representative Lawrence "Larry" Sanders (Socialist-New York)/Governor Edward "Ed" Milliband (Socialist-Michigan)
2016 Election: Secretary of State Gary Johnson (Republican-New Mexico)/Senator Sarah Steelman (Republican-Missouri) vs Actor and Activist Mark Ruffalo (Socialist-Wisconsin)/Senator Stephanie "Steph" Cholensky (Socialist-Florida)
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This is a rough concept list for a timeline idea I have where the Pacific Northwest of the United States become a socialist (and/or communist) nation as a result of the Seattle General Strike of 1919. The United States reacts to this with such hostility that it becomes a bit of a pariah and authoritarian state.Presidents of the United States
1920-1928: Attorney General A. Mitchell Palmer (D-PA)/Rep. Furnifold McLendel Simmons (D-NC)
1920 def. Major General Leonard Wood (R-NH)/Sen. Hiram Johnson (R-CA)
1924 def. Sen. Robert M. La Follette (R-WI)/Gov. Frank Orren Lowden (R-IL)
1928-1930: V.P. Furnifold McLendel Simmons (D-NC)/Sen. Josiah O. Wolcott (D-DE)
1928 def. Fmr. Gov. Frank Orren Lowden (R-IL)/Gov. Herbert Hoover (R-CA)
1930-1932: V.P. Josiah O. Wolcott (D-DE)/vacant
1932-1940: Pres. Josiah O. Wolcott (D/National Union-DE)/Sec. of Intelligence J. Edgar Hoover (R/NU-DC)
1932 def. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Al Smith (D-NY), Sen. John J. Blaine (R-WI)/Fmr. Sen. Joseph I. France (R-MD)
1936 def. Non-National Union Parties suppressed.
1940-1948: V.P. J. Edgar Hoover (NU-DC)/Sen. Joseph McCarthy (NU-WI)
1940 def. Minor Opposition.
1944 def. Minor Opposition.
1948-1956: V.P. Joseph McCarthy (NU-WI)/Gov. Walter E. Disney (NU-CA)
1948 def. Minor Opposition.
1952 def. Minor Opposition.
1956-1964: V.P. Walter E. Disney (NU-CA)/Sen. Bourke B. Hickenlooper (NU-IA)
1956 def. Minor Opposition.
1960 def. Minor Opposition.
1964-1972: Sen. Ronald Reagan (NU-CA)/Sen. Spiro Agnew (NU-MD)
1964 def. Minor Opposition.
1968 def. Minor Opposition.
1972-1980: Gov. Richard Nixon (NU-CA)/Sec. of Defense Henry M. Jackson (NU-MT)
1972 def. Minor Opposition.
1976 def. Minor Opposition.
1980-1988: Sec. of Defense Oliver North (NU-TX)/Sen. Dennis Prager (NU-NY)
1980 def. Minor Opposition.
1984 def. Minor Opposition.
1988-1992: Rep. Clint Eastwood (NU-CA)/Gov. Hal Lindsey (NU-TX)
1988 def. Minor Opposition. Opposition suppression decreased.
1992-2000: Sec. of State Patrick J. Buchanan (NU-DC)/Sen. Bob Dornan (NU-CA)
1992 def. Minor Opposition.
1996 def. Minor Opposition. Opposition suppression decreased.
2000-2016: Gov. Mike Huckabee (NU-AR)/Sen. Rush Limbaugh (NU-FL)
2000 def. Minor Opposition. Opposition suppression decreased.
2004 def. Minor Opposition.
2008 def. Sen. William Clinton (Anti-Huckabee Movement-AR)/Gov. Willard Romney (AHM-MI)
2012 def. Sec. of the Interior Gary Johnson (AHM-ND)/Sen. John Kasich(AHM-PA)
2016-Present: Rep. John E. Bush (AHM/Free Republican Party-TX)/Gov. Lawrence Lessig (AHM/FRP-SD)
2016 def. Pres. Mike Huckabee (NU-AR)/V. P. Rush Limbaugh (NU-FL)
2020 elect. Sen. Eric Hovind (NU-FL)/Gov. Ben Garrison (NU-MT)
The Current Leaders of the United Worker's States of the Cascades (UWSC or Cascadia for short) is President Glenn Beck (Skagit-Socialist Action) with the Voice of the People's Council being Sarah Heath (Bitteroot-Communist Party) and Gov. Anthony L. Ray (King-People's Party)
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