List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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  1. Amadeus Well-Known Member

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    Bush Sr was born in Massachusetts. So unless his family moves to the South before he is born (which I find unlikely), he probably wouldn't be eligible to run. In this ATL, he is more likely to be a Senator from Connecticut.
     
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  2. Newne76 Prime Minister of Soda

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    Presidents of the United States
    33. Rexford Tugwell/Henry A. Wallace (Progressive)
    (January 20th,1941-January 20th,1945)

    1940 Def: Thomas Dewey/Charles Halleck (Northern Conservative)
    William B. Bankhead/Cordell Hull (Southern Conservative)

    With the upset victory of Rexford Tugwell over the well established two party system, he would immediately set out to conduct what he had promised his constituents and the forty million voters which had put him in the white house. He promised sweeping electoral reform and massive government reform, calling upon the bizarre system of state conventions to ratify a slew of government shake up bills to the very foundation of the United States. After close to a year of working out the details with many senators and representatives from all sides, he was able to pass the bill through, sign it and leave it up to the states to ratify such an agreement.

    Despite the relatively tight schedule of from November 1943 to November of 1944 where he was planning on holding the new elections, a majority of the states finalized their signatures on the legislation with 36 of the 48 total states ratifying the amendment. The United States had a relatively quiet death with the formal name change to the Union of Allied States, named in part for an added measure of moral support for the Allied Powers of the ongoing world war.


    President-Ministers of the Union of Allied States
    1. Rexford Tugwell (Progressive)
    (January 20th,1945-January 20th,1957)

    400 total seats
    1944:
    [200] (majority) Def: Northern Conservative [140] Southern Conservative [58] Independent [2]
    1948:
    [277] (majority) Def: Northern Conservative [43] Southern Conservative [78] Nationalist [1] Independent [1]
    1952:
    [278] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [40] Southern Conservative [78] Socialist [2] Nationalist [1] Independent [1]

    The First four years of his President-Ministry proved to be the trailblazer for the next heads of state within the office of P-M. He attempted to, in his words "convey an appearance of the 1940s version of George Washington". Historians have debated if this attempt had succeeded, with the notable passing of sweeping land reform acts by the majority within the new legislature. He also managed to pass the controversial Marriage Rights Act of 1950, which forbid discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender. His time as President-Minister was seen as one of supposed weakness on foreign policy, something that a Texan senator turned legally married partner of an Arizonan senator would exploit and win off of in the 1956 legislative elections.

    2. Lyndon Goldwater (Southern Conservative)
    (January 20th,1957-January 20th,1969)

    1956:
    [260] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [48] Progressive [40] Socialist [22] New Progressive [12] Nationalist [10] Whig [5] Union [2] All American [1]

    1960:
    [195+14 =209] (Coalition with All American) Def: Northern Conservative [50] Progressive [41] Socialist [25] New Progressive [24] Nationalist [23] Whig [20] Union [8]

    1964:
    [210] (Majority) Def:Northern Conservative [55] Progressive [50] Socialist [40] New Progressive [14] Nationalist [13] Union [10] All American [7] Whig [1]

    The overwhelming victory by the Southern Conservative party came as no surprise with the exception of the far left wing branch of the Progressives, which wanted to bring more change in the areas of gender equality, race relations and religious freedom. It was seen as a staunchly Christian backlash against the more secular version of the Progressive wings which they felt as though they were dissolving organized religion.
    It came as even more of a surprise that a gay, more libertarian type figure with an abhorrence of the religious right came out as the Southern Conservative Prime Minister. These tensions would continue to boil as the hot headed Goldwater would frequently spar with his own party members. Normally the Progressives would be foolish to not take advantage of such a splintering within the Southern Conservatives, though aging cautious leadership, not wanting to alienate the moderate progressive wing of the party that still voted with the southern conservatives via ticket splitting of the local offices would be the fools.

    Goldwater's foreign policy was mostly hawkish, perfectly in line with the more war like Southern Conservative membership and MPs. He would embroil the UAS with an invasion of Morocco to overthrow the communist backed government. After sixty thousand dead Americans and a lessened parliamentarian majority was all they had to show for it after four years, they would humiliatingly pull out of the conflict.



    3. Nelson Rockefeller (Northern Conservative)
    (January 20th,1969-January 20th,1973)

    427 seats
    1968:
    [311] (Majority) Def: Southern Conservative [30] True Progressive [20] Real Socialist [21] Union [20] Nationalist [15] All American [8] Whig [1] Progressive-Socialist [1]

    Promising a more moderate government and running on the slogan "The Moderates will Govern Moderately" pulled in a large group comprised of anti war protesters, unemployed workers and government contractors who were furious that a semi-free market was being implemented to replace the work that they did for the armed forces. It was with this very specific and yet varied coalition of voters that the Northern Conservatives swept much of the Boarder States and the West Coast with an unprecedented 311 total seats.

    President-Minister Rockefeller would administer the Rockefeller Policy, which regulated the amount of aid american backed dictators would get depending on how well they treated their citizens and civil liberties throughout the country. This policy's intentions were to unintentionally encourage democratization between the dictators of various African and European countries. The actual effect of the policy was the immediate switching over of several african and middle eastern dictatorships to some sort of red banner while ringing up the People's Czar for military aide and a couple tanks.

    One of the most disastrous question regarding this policy became who was to blame for the loss of Germany. The Germany Question would rage throughout the 1970s as a key cornerstone of future american foreign policy within the European continent. The People's Kaiser Wilhelm III would solidify the ties with the crown communist run monarchies of China, Russia and the Second Ottoman Empire.

    4. Harry S. Truman (Northern Conservative)*
    (January 20th,1973-December 26th,1973)

    1972:
    [218] (Majority) Def: All American [80] Nationalist [62] Southern Conservative [41] Real Socialist [20] True Progressive [5] Whig [1]
    Clinging to political office with a bare three seat majority in Parliament, the Truman Administration would be one of frequent compromise with the more numerous All American party and Nationalists, yet attempting to appease their more progressive side and trying to woo the True Progressives by declaring frequently that they had the majority and did not need a coalition. The governing party would, under his instruction and guidance, shoot down any and all proposals made that were too radical or not large enough.

    Historians generally rate his President-Ministerial role within the history as mediocre at best while noting some of the minute reforms passed by his administration in the easement of medical records between patients and their doctors along with an ease of military high command structuring that would allow on the spot decisions to be undertaken by junior ranking officers.

    5. George Lincoln Rockwell (All American)
    (December 26th,1973-January 20th,1981)

    1976:
    [291] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [48] Nationalist [40] Southern Conservative [42] Socialist [4] True Progressive [1] Whig [1]
    Appointed President-Minister upon the death of truman initially as an attempt by the minority for a joke, he would prove to be hot headed and frequently paranoid throughout his tenure, authorizing the controversial overthrow of the british communist monarchy under People's Queen Elizabeth II and installing a brutal military junta in it's place. He would promote his nationalist ideas throughout various western backed client states of the UAS, managing to launch a full scale invasion of Mexico upon their election of a Moscow backed communist party in democratic elections. It would be under his tenure that the Rockefeller Doctrine would be terminated and replaced with the much more aggressive and similar sounding Rockwell Doctrine.

    Under the Rockwell Doctrine, the slightest provocation by the People's Empire of Russia would mean total nuclear holocaust for the entire world. While he had been supported heavily by former President-Minister Goldwater, the more moderate Northern Conservatives and splintered Progressive movements were alienated and horrified at such a reckless policy.

    Rockwell would launch an invasion of Canada when a political cartoon was published in the Washington Post that was critical of Rockwell. The Cartoon War of 1975 was considered to be the climax of the Rockwell Doctrine, with the atomic leveling of Ottawa in retaliation for such a heinous caricature of the beloved leader.

    With the controversial deaths of over 150,000 Canadians weighing heavily on the minds of many in the 1976 legislative elections, the party was nonetheless granted a majority of seats because of high approval for his actions at the time.
     
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  3. Baconheimer Berserker of Chaos

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    I was reading Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72 when the idea of Lindsay 72-Kennedy 76 popped into my mind. An hour or so later, this is what we have: Nixon becomes a national hero and the 22nd Amendment is repealed, allowing him to return in 1984 after Palestinian terrorists kill President Reagan and VP Simon, Jesse Jackson Jr. allows the Democrats to implode beneath him and eventually the New Democrats are founded. The Republicans are significantly more big tent ITTL, with a significant moderate to liberal wing (as can be seen by the fact that Ralph Nader, albeit in a more aged moderated form) is running-mate to none other than Tricky Dick's son in law.

    1969-1974: Richard Nixon / Spiro Agnew * (Republican)

    def. 1968 Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie (Democratic), George Wallace/Curtis LeMay (American Independent)
    def. 1972 John Lindsay/Wilbur Mills (Democratic)

    1974: Richard Nixon / VACANT (Republican)
    1974-1977: Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford (Republican)
    1977-1981: Ted Kennedy / Henry Jackson (Democratic)
    def. 1976 Gerald Ford/George Bush (Republican)
    1981-1983: Ronald Reagan / William Simon (Republican)
    def. 1980 Ted Kennedy / Henry Jackson (Democratic)
    1983: Tip O'Neill / VACANT (Democratic)

    1983: Tip O'Neill / VACANT (Independent)
    1983-1984: Tip O'Neill / William Cohen (Independent)
    1984-1985: Tip O'Neill / William Cohen (National Union)
    1985-1992: Richard Nixon *** / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
    def. 1984 George McGovern/Shirley Chisholm (Democratic), Lee Iaccoca/William Cohen (National Unity)
    def. 1988 Lucien Blackwell/Booth Gardiner (Democratic)
    1992-1993: Donald Rumsfeld / VACANT (Republican)

    1993-1997: Jesse Jackson / Bob Traxler (Democratic)
    def. 1992 Donald Rumsfeld/Pat Buchanan (Republican)
    1997-2005: Bill Clinton / Bill Janklow (Republican)

    def. 1996 Jesse Jackson/Bob Traxler (Democratic), Pat Buchanan/Ed Koch (Conservative)
    def. 2000 Bob Traxler/Ben Fraiser (Democratic)
    2005-2009: Jesse Jackson Jr. / Tony Knowles (Democratic)

    def. 2004 Bill Janklow/Christine O'Donnell (Republican)
    2009-2013: Jesse Jackson Jr. / Janet Reno (Democratic)

    def. 2008 Edward Cox/Ralph Nader (Republican), Tony Knowles/Don Siegelman (Third Way), Hugh P. Johnson/Rick Jore (Independent)
    2013-2021: David Petreus / Jeff Flake (Republican)

    def. 2012 Bill O'Reilly/Tom Daschle (Third Way), Jesse Jackson Jr./Robby Wells (Democratic)
    def. 2016 Mike Pence/Kyrsten Sinema (New Democratic), Dexter Fowler/Walter Braun (Democratic)
    2021-0000: Ray Nagin / Jon Ossoff (New Democratic)

    def. 2020 Barack Soetoro/Dan Patrick (Democratic), John Hagelin/Mark Levine (Democratic)


    * - Resigned
    ** - Killed in terrorist attack
    *** - Died of natural causes



    And, thanks to @Gentleman Biaggi for the 1972 VP choice
     
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  4. redjirachi Well-Known Member

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    What difference could one vote make?

    16(second term): Abraham Lincoln**/Andrew Johnson(March 4-April 15 1865)
    17(first term): Andrew Johnson***(April 1 1865-May 16 1868)
    Acting president: Benjamin Wade(May 16 1868-March 4 1869)
    -Election of 1868: Benjamin Wade/Schuyler Colfax(Republican) vs Horatio Seymour/Francis Preston Blair Jr
    18(first term): Benjamin Wade/Schuyler Colfax(1869-1873)
    -Election of 1872: Ulysses S Grant/Charles F Adams(Republican) vs Thomas A Hendricks/William Adams
    19(first term): Ulysses S Grant/Charles F Adams(1873-1877)
    -Election of 1876: Ulysses S Grant/Frederick T Frelinghuysen(Republican) vs Winfield Scott Hancock/Joel Parker(Democrat)
    19(second term): Ulysses S Grant/Frederick T Frelinghuysen(1877-1881)
    -Election of 1880: James Blaine/William Wheeler(Republican) vs Thomas F Bayard/Samuel J Randall
    20(first term): Thomas F Bayard/Samuel J Randall(1881-1885)
    -Election of 1884: Thomas F Bayard/Samuel J Randall(Democrat) vs George F Edmunds/Joseph B Foraker(Republican)
    20(second term): Thomas F Bayard/Samuel J Randall(1885-1889)

    * Died
    ** Assassinated
    *** Removed from office

    16: Abraham Lincoln**(1861-1865)/Hannibal Hamlin(1861-1865), Andrew Johnson(1865)
    17: Andrew Johnson***(1865-1868), Benjamin Wade(1868-1869, acting)
    18: Benjamin Wade/Schuyler Colfax(1869-1873)
    19: Ulysses S Grant(1873-1881)/Charles F Adams(1873-1877), Frederick T Frelinghuysen(1877-1881)
    20: Thomas F Bayard/Samuel J Randall(1881-1889)
     
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  5. Aequanimitas Well-Known Member

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    A remake of an old list of mine.

    Prime Ministers of the British Imperial Commonwealth

    1911 - 1916 Herbert Asquith (Liberal) from England
    1916 - 1921 Eamon de Valera (Liberal) from Ireland
    1921 - 1926 Ramsay Macdonald (Labour) from Scotland
    1926 - 1931 Stanley Baldwin (Tory) from England
    1931 - 1936 Ramsay Macdonald (Labour) from Scotland
    1936 - 1939 Stanley Baldwin (Tory) from England
    1939 - 1951 Winston Churchill (Tory) from England
    1951 - 1956 Mohandas Gandhi (Liberal) from India
    1956 - 1961 Lester Pearson (Labour) from Canada
    1961 - 1971 Jomo Kenyatta (Labour) from Kenya
    1971 - 1976 Nnamdi Azikiwe (Liberal) from Nigeria
    1976 - 1981 Indira Gandhi (Tory) from India
    1981 - 1991 Margaret Thatcher (Tory) from England
    1991 - 1996 Nelson Mandela (Liberal) from South Africa
    1996 - 2006 Desmond Hoyte (Labour) from Guyana
    2006 - today Tony Blair (Labour) from England
     
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  6. Comrade Izaac Jezza for Prezza

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    uhhh

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  7. BlackentheBorg This is going to become a bad meme

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    Trying to bring this format back

    Political Career of Brace Belden
    2015-2016: Writer
    for the Willamette Week (alternative weekly newspaper)
    2016-2017: Gunner for the Yekîneyên Parastina Gel/People's Protection Units in Tal Saman, Syria
    2017: Candidate for Rector of the University of Glasgow
    defeated by Aamer Anwar, Lady Hazel Cosgrove, Sir Vince Cable, Milo Yiannopolous, Professor Jordan Peterson, Jonathan JJ Tease, John Lindberg, Duncan Logie, Thomas Hind
    2017-2030: Member of the Democratic Socialists of America (California chapter)
    2018-2021:
    Ranking member of ILWU Brewery & Tap Room Workers United
    2020:
    Candidate for Democratic Party nominee for State Controller of California
    defeated by Betty Yee, Ricardo Lara, Tammy Blair
    2021: Candidate for President of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
    def. Ruben Rodriguez, Ed A. Sadlowski
    2021-2030: President of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees
    succeeded by Tom Balanoff
    2029-2030: Candidate for Democratic Party nominee for California Senator
    defeated Zenaida Huerta, Joseline Garcia, Daraka Larimore-Hall
    2030-2040: Senator for California
    '30 - defeated Elizabeth Heng (Republican), Nachum Shifren (Libertarian), Orly Taitz (America First), Kabiruddin Karim Ali (Green)
    '34 - defeated Arun Bhumitra (Republican)
    '38 - defeated Adrienne Nicole Edwards (Democratic), Ashley Swearengin (Republican)

    2040-2041: Candidate for Democratic Party nominee for President
    defeated Jewell Jones, Alessandra Biaggi, Tim Ashe, Ellie Boldman Hill, Caleb Maupin
    2041-present: President of the United States
    (serving w/ Shaun Scott)

    defeated Augustus Sol Invictus/Chris Johncox (Republican), Naweed Tahmas/Cindy Mallette (Independent Republican)

    *​

    Political career of Augustus Sol Invictus
    2011-2017: Member of the Bar
    of the Middle District of Florida in the US District Court
    2013-2017: Managing Partner
    of Imperium Public Affairs
    2015-2016:
    Candidate for Libertarian Party nominee for Florida Senator
    defeated by Paul Stanton
    2017-2032: Publisher of the The Revolutionary Conservative (far-right newsletter), political activist
    2020: RNC delegate
    for Donald Trump
    voted accordingly, Trump won nomination
    2028: RNC delegate for Josh Hawley
    voted accordingly, Hawley won nomination
    2031-2032: Candidate for Republican Party nominee for Florida Senator
    defeated Dane Eagle, Mario Díaz-Balart
    2032-2039: Senator for Florida
    '32 - defeated Jen Powell (Democratic)
    '36 - defeated Helena Poleo (Democratic), Terrance Freeman (Independent Republican)

    2039-2040: Candidate for Republican Party nominee for President
    defeated Adi Sathi, Keith Wofford, Dusty Johnson, Nalin Haley
    2040-2041: Republican Party nominee for President
    defeated by Brace Belden (Democratic)
    2041: Leader of the Provisional Government of the Patriot Compact
    2041-2047: President of the United States (Patriot Compact)

    (serving w/ Matthew Heimbach)
    [unopposed]

    2047-present: Political prisoner
    tried and sentenced by the Hague International Criminal Court, incarcerated in the USP Florence ADMAX
     
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  8. Old1812 Reactionary Monarchist Twit

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    1861-1865: Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME)
    Def: John C. Breckinridge (SD-KY)/Joseph P. Lane (SD-OR); John Bell (CU-TN)/Edward Everett (CU-PA); Stephen A. Douglas (ND-IL)/Herschel V. Johnson (ND-GA)
    1865-1869: George B. McClellan (D-NJ)/Samuel S. Cox (D-OH)
    Def: William H. Seward (LR-NY)/Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL); John C. Frémont (RR-CA)/Benjamin F. Wade (RR-OH)
    1869-1873: John W. Geary (LR-PA)/Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)
    Def: Samuel S. Cox (D-OH)/James E. English (D-CT)
    1873-1873: John W. Geary (LR-PA) (Died in office)/Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)
    Def: Francis P. Blair (D-MO)/John T. Hoffman (D-NY)
    1873-1877: Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)/Vacant
    1877-1881: Thomas A. Hendricks (D-IN)/Joel S. Parker (D-NJ)
    Def: John Sherman (LR-OH)/Frederick T. Frelinghuysen (LR-NJ)
     
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  9. President Benedict Arnold New Yorker

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    WI: Johnson dies of a heart attack in 1967

    1968: VP Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Frmr Gov. John Connally (D-TX)
    Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
    Frmr Gov. Albert Chandler (D-KY)/Rep. William Anderson (D-TN)
    1972: Sen. Charles Percy (R-IL)/Frmr Gov. John Volpe (R-MA)
    Pres. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/VP John Connally (D-TX)
    Frmr Gov. Albert Chandler (D-KY)/Frmr Gov. John Chafee (R-RI)
    1976: Pres. Charles Percy (R-IL)/VP John Volpe (R-MA)
    Sen. Robert Kennedy (D-NY)/Gov. Kevin Ranaghan (D-IN)
    Sen. Scoop Jackson (D-WA)/Frmr Gov. Robert Docking (D-KS)
    1980: Gov. Calvin Worthington (I-AK)/Sen. John Chafee (I-RI)
    VP John Volpe (R-MA)/Sen. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)

    Speaker Morris Udall (D-AZ)/Sen. Mike Gravel (D-AK)

    Abridged list of Presidents:
    36th - Lyndon B. Johnson 1963-1967* (
    Democratic)
    37th - Hubert H. Humphrey 1967-1973 (
    Democratic)
    38th - Charles H. Percy 1973-1981 (
    Republican)
    39th - Calvin C. Worthington 1981-1989 (
    Independent/Independence)
    *Died in office

    The worsening of the state of the war in Vietnam was too much for Lyndon Baines Johnson to handle, as he suffered a major heart attack late one night in his office. It is believed that his last words were "those poor boys," in reference to those fighting in Vietnam, but this is likely a myth as nobody was with him at the moment of the heart attack and there are no accounts that mention this from the Secret Servicemen or paramedics who were with him when he died.

    In the shadow of this tragedy, Hubert Horatio Humphrey took office and had to steer the country through the end of the '60s and beginning of the 1970s. He was a Cold Warrior and Liberal who stood with the party machines and supported the war despite its growing unpopularity, as it was the last legacy of his predecessor along with the Great Society. He chose Johnson's right hand man to be his VP, but would soon regret it as he and Connally bumped heads more than Humphrey did with the anti-war left of the party. A bubbling resentment against the Democratic Party establishment would lead to a national Independent ticket running at the White House. Former Kentucky Governor Albert "Happy" Chandler would recruit Tennessee Rep. Bill Anderson to make a run at the White House with him. This ticket would get a lot of anti-war protest votes, despite the fact that Chandler was in support of continuing the Vietnam War. The ticket's targeted voters would largely be rural Democratic voters who felt alienated by the Great Society and anti-war movement. Altogether they'd only take home a little over 5% of the vote their first time around.

    In 1972, in the midst of the Oil Crisis and winding down of the Vietnam War, Hubert Humphrey lost re-election in favor of moderate Republican and Illinois Senator Charles Harting Percy. Many chalk up Humphrey's loss to the much stronger run by Happy Chandler this time around, which scored 17% of the popular vote and a handful of small western states. President Chuck Percy would be immensely popular as he famously vetoed the Panama Canal Treaty that would hand the land back to its namesake country and bombing North Vietnam as it attempted to re-ignite conflict. Percy would also vote every federal budget he was given, forcing Congress to override his veto each time. He would remain very popular through his re-election, which saw a major split between the nominee, anti-war left wing hero Robert Kennedy, and Happy Chandler's heir, Washington Senator Scoop Jackson. They nearly split the vote in half, with Kennedy receiving 25% and Jackson 22%, with the remaining 55% going to the incumbent President. This would end up being a poison chalice, as Percy's second term would be marked by foreign policy failures, like Iran going red and failing to help India in its war with China, resulting in their defeat.

    Percy would leave office the most unpopular President since Truman and beckon in a new era of American politics with the election of the Independent Governor of Alaska, Calvin Coolidge Worthington. President Cal Worthington would be a massive departure from his predecessors, both in terms of Independent ticket runs and Presidents. Worthington had never been closely aligned with either party, despite being named after a former Republican President, and would be the most overtly folksy and populist president seen in a long time. His presidency was marked by incredible economic growth and the breaking up of the Warsaw Pact, which saw the Soviet Union decline in standing. To this day many claim that Worthington was the best president of their lifetime and he is consistently ranked alongside Washington, Lincoln, and both Roosevelts as the best presidents to ever live.
     
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  10. Aequanimitas Well-Known Member

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    No Manifest Destiny, leading to a smaller United States composed by the following states: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, Maryland, Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Dakota.

    1844 - 1848: James Polk (D)
    1848 - 1852: Lewis Cass (D)
    1850 - 1856: Franklin Pierce (D)
    1856 - 1860: James Buchanan (D)
    1860 - 1868: Abraham Lincoln (R)
    1868 - 1876: Andrew Johnson (D)
    1876 - 1881: Samuel Tilden (D)
    1881 - 1884: Thomas Hendricks (D)
    1884 - 1888: James Blaine (R)
    1888 - 1896: Grover Cleveland (D)
    1896 - 1901: William McKinley (R)
    1901 - 1908: Charles Fairbanks (R)
    1908 - 1916: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
    1916 - 1924: Woodrow Wilson (D)
    1924 - 1932: Al Smith (D)
    1932 - 1936: Herbert Hoover (R)
    1936 - 1944: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D)
    1944 - 1948: Henry Wallace (D)
    1948 - 1956: Thomas Dewey (R)
    1956 - 1964: Richard Nixon (R)
    1964 - 1968: John Fitzgerald Kennedy (D)
    1968 - 1976: Hubert Humphrey (D)
    1976 - 1984: Ronald Reagan (R)
    1984 - 1992: Michael Dukakis (D)
    1992 - 2000: Jack Kemp (R)
    2000 - 2008: Al Gore (D)
    2008 - 2016: Andrew Cuomo (D)
     
  11. Hedonic Hun Well-Known Member

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    And who suceeded him? I'm on the edge of my seat.
     
  12. President Benedict Arnold New Yorker

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    Thought it’d be fun to split it by era/party system, with pre-Worthington being the Fifth Party System, Humphrey being that party system’s spent energy and Percy being the first forces against it. The Sixth Party System begins with a president not beholden to either major party. He founds the Independence Party while in office, which is a centrist, populist political vehicle. With the presidency gained, the following elections, beginning in ‘82 see the Independence Party begins to build its caucuses in the House (where many incumbents defected to the new president) and the senate (which had two independent senators, minus John Chafee, who join the party upon its creation).

    1988: Sen. Jack Eckerd (R/I-FL)/Gov. Robert Finch (R/I-CA)
    Gov. Samuel Griffin (D-GA)/Gov. Robert Edgar (D-PA)

    1992: Pres. Jack Eckerd (R/I-FL)/VP Robert Finch (R/I-CA)
    Sen. William Arnone (D-NY)/Lawrence Fountain (D-NC)

    1996: Sen. Pierre Howard (D/I-GA)/Gov. Jack Cullerton (D/I-IL)
    Gov. Fred Thompson (R-TN)/ Gov.John Silber (R-TX)

    2000: Pres. Pierre Howard (D-GA)/VP Jack Cullerton (D-IL)
    Gov. Fred Thompson (R/I-TN)/Sen. Tommy Thompson (R/I-WI)

    2004: Gov. Nat Goldhaber (IR-OR)/Sen. Matt McCoy (IR-NC)
    VP Jack Cullerton (D-IL)/Sen. William Waller (D-MS)

    40th - Jack Milton Eckerd (Republican)
    41st - Pierre DuVinage Howard (Democratic)
    42nd - A. Nathaniel Goldhaber (Independent Republican)

    Following Cal Worthington’s re-election, it became very clear to the Independence Party that they cannot run a reliably successful candidate as a third party. From then on, they would attempt to be a kingmaker, co-endorsing the Democratic or Republican candidate that best aligned with their interests. Worthington left office with a 66% approval rating and would serve as the party’s premier member, and only president, for the rest of his life.

    His immediate successor would be Florida Republican Senator Jack Eckerd, a rich, flamboyant drug company owner who nearly divided both parties with his nomination. The growing conservative movement within the Republican Party backed Rep. Pat Buchanan of Virginia in the primaries against Eckerd and hundreds of Buchanan’s delegates boycotted the RNC rather than nominate him. They would attempt to run Buchanan on a Conservative Party ticket line, but failed to gain ballot access in half of the states along with very little national attention, which was focused in on Democratic Party infighting and Eckerd’s remarkable charisma and dual party endorsements. Sam Griffin of Georgia and Bob Edgar of Pennsylvania had spent the election season rallying against each other and proved a poor unity ticket. Bill Arnone and Lawrence Fountain, both boring technocrats, worked much better together but were hardly able to win over anybody besides Democratic partisans. Eckerd would serve eight years, overseeing the Colombian War and the Tech Boom of the 1990s.

    Eckerd’s term ended with a recession, minor compared to the economic woes of the ‘70s, but still the worst economic situation since then. Georgia Governor, “boy wonder” Pierre Howard would succeed Eckerd, winning the Independent nomination over the Tennessean Fred Thompson. He would institute a national healthcare system and pull his entire party kicking and screaming into embracing social democracy. Among some, this ran counter to his campaign into office, which was about unity and improving the economy, but came about fixing its faults so nobody was left out to suffer. For his re-election campaign, Howard would once again face Fred Thompson, but this time Thompson would be armed with the Independence endorsement. Their defeat would be a major rejection of business centrism as the ruling philosophy for the nation. The Independence Party would also see major losses in the following midterms. Weak and on the decline, the Independence Party would agree to uniting with the Republican Party, giving the new Independent Republican Party a majority in the Senate. This majority would obstruct and stonewall President Howard whenever possible.

    Howard spent his last two years in office as a lame duck, but still pretty damn popular. His VP, the very old Jack Cullerton, would narrowly lose to Oregon Governor Nat Goldhaber. Goldhaber was a very liberal Republican and a committed environmentalist. His election swept a new generation of liberal-leaning Republicans into power, the most left wing GOP leadership since Teddy Roosevelt’s time. He would do all he could to balance the budget and strengthen environmental protections, coming up short of his desired goals, but achieving enough to satisfy himself and his base.
     
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  13. Old1812 Reactionary Monarchist Twit

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    I rushed this one out without explaining anything really, here's a quick explanation:
    - 1860 goes as OTL, but Grant invades Kentucky in 1861, which eventually causes the war to end with Britain holding negotiations to end the war.

    - By 1864 the Republicans have fractured into moderate "Liberal Republicans", and abolitionist "Radical Republicans." George B. McClellan wins on a platform of conservatism and careful vigilance against the Confederate threat. Late in his term, McClellan signs the 13th amendment, allowing for gradual emancipation of all slaves in the United States. It's a polarizing move, especially as it requires the support of the Liberal and Radical Republicans to be passed.

    - McClellan declines to run for a second term, leaving the Democrats without a clear frontrunner in 1868. All other nominees are too old, too unknown, or unwilling. Vice President "Sunset" Cox is nominated, finally, with McClellan's support. The Republican factions reunite under popular Pennsylvania governor and war hero John W. Geary. The Liberal Republicans go on to defeat Cox quite handily.

    - Geary is easily renominated in 1872, while Missouri senator and general Francis P. Blair is chosen by the Democrats. Surprisingly, President Geary dies not even a year into his second term, leaving Vice President Schuyler Colfax to succeed him.

    - After eight years of Liberal government, the people once again choose the Democratic platform of sound money and conservatism, as the popular Indiana senator Thomas Hendricks is elected over the lacklustre John Sherman. The latter's statements supporting silver coinage left the Liberals in an awkward situation, as well as experiencing some severe "buyer's remorse."
     
  14. Joshua Ben Ari Well-Known Member

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    Presidents of the United States of America
    42. 1993-1997: William J. "Bill" Clinton / Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic)
    1992: President George H.W. Bush / Vice President J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (Republican), Mr. Ross Perot / VADM (Ret). James Stockdale (Independent)
    43. 1997-2005: Arlen Specter / George Deukmejian (Republican)
    1996: President William J. "Bill" Clinton / Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic), Mr. Ross Perot / Mr. Pat Choate (Reform), Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)
    2000: Fmr. Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. / Senator Frank Lautenberg (Democratic), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Richard "Dick" Lamm (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)
    44. 2005-2013: Robert "Bob" Graham / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
    2004: Secretary of Labor Lynn M. Martin / Fmr. Governor Christine Todd Whitman (Republican), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Jesse Ventura (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto ("Resistance" Republican)
    2008: Fmr. Governor Willard M. Romney / U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor (Republican)

    45. 2013-2000: Michael Bloomberg / Norman "Norm" Coleman (Republican)
    2012: Vice President Evan Bayh / Senator John Kerry (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto (National Republican)
    2016: Governor Ed Rendell / Senator Joseph "Joe" Biden (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom (National Republican)
     
  15. CapitalistHippie Peace, love, and free markets.

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    'Resistance' Republicans: Hmm who should we nominate this time?
    David Duke: ME!
    RRs: Hmm, we've nominated you four times before and never won, maybe we should go with someone el-
    DD: NOMINATE ME AGAIN, DAMMIT!
    RRs: OK, OK, fine!
     
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  16. Amadeus Well-Known Member

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    A Place Called Hope: A Bill Clinton TL
    Inspired by a recent thread of mine on Bill Clinton, the POD is that Clinton's father William Blythe Jr never dies as a result of a car accident. As planned, he moves the Blythe family to Chicago where his son William Jefferson Blythe III is born in 1946.

    1946-1981: Same as OTL
    40. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989), R-CA
    41. George H.W. Bush (1989-1993), R-TX

    42. Bill Blythe (1993-2001), D-IL
    43. Al Gore (2001-2005), D-TN

    44. John McCain (2005-2013), R-AZ
    45. Barack Obama (2013-2021), D-IL


    With a supportive father who raises him in a mostly stable household under better financial circumstances, the young Bill Blythe is deeply changed from OTL. Motivated by his genuine compassion for other people, but tempered by the guidance from his father, Blythe enters politics in the 1970s as a Democrat. In 1974 he wins a US House seat from Chicago, and four years later Blythe challenges Republican Senator Chuck Percy. Although Blythe loses the election, the narrow margin of his defeat makes him a rising star in Illinois politics. In 1982 Blythe narrowly unseats Republican Governor James R. Thompson, and in 1986 he is re-elected in a landslide. Devoid of the messy personal life and scandals that hampered Bill Clinton from running in OTL, Blythe jumps into the 1988 presidential race. He wins the Iowa caucus and comes close to the nomination, but ultimately is defeated by Michael Dukakis. Blythe is distraught, thinking that his only chance to win the presidency has passed by. Yet Dukakis' loss in the general election opens the door for Blythe's comeback in 1992. This time, Blythe takes the nomination and wins the general election.

    With his time as Illinois' Governor an important learning experience, Blythe carefully implements his liberal domestic agenda. He starts small with a middle class tax cut and an economic stimulus before moving onto healthcare reform after the 1994 midterm elections. In 1996 Blythe is re-elected in a landslide, and his Vice-President Al Gore defeats George W. Bush in 2000. A recession in 2001 leads to a Republican takeover of Congress in 2002, and John McCain is elected President in 2004.

    Since then, McCain was re-elected in 2008 when he defeated former First Lady and Senator Hillary Rodham Blythe. A political protege of Bill Blythe, Senator Barack Obama, became America's first black President in 2013. Almost twenty years after he left office, Blythe's liberal legacy remains mostly in tact although his tough stance on crime has come under criticism by progressives.
     
  17. Joshua Ben Ari Well-Known Member

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    Well he is a persistent racist ass. :p

    But really the "Resistance Republicans" are basically a collection of neo-Nazis, ex-KKK members, and racist/antisemitic individuals emboldened by Duke winning the 1990 Louisiana senatorial campaign, and saw his expulsion as part of an 'anti-White conspiracy'.
     
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  18. President Earl Warren Well-Known Member

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    what was he expelled on?
     
  19. Beta.003 Idk anymore, idk

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    It’s Duke... so I’m assuming hyper-racism and being part of the KKK?
     
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  20. President Earl Warren Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you can be expelled for that,censured sure but expelled no.
     
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