List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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  1. Calcaterra Stuff About Politics (& Sports)

    Dec 26, 2017
    No, You
    Clinton As A Republican

    Ronald Wilson Reagan/William Jefferson Clinton* (R) 1980-1989
    William Jefferson Clinton/Peter Barton Wilson (R) 1989-1997

    John Glenn/Paul Tsongas (D) 1997-2001
    Elizabeth Dole/Lamar Alexander (R) 2001-2006
    Lamar Alexander/vacant (R) 2006
    Lamar Alexander/Roger Goodell (R) 2006-2009

    John Edwards/Howard Dean (D) 2009-2013

    *Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas was chosen as a way to reconcile with the moderate branch of the GOP, and embrace a younger influence to energize the youth and offset questions of Reagan's age. (POD is Hillary and Bill never meet, and instead, Bill marries Ellen Stanton, a more conservative woman who stabilizes him, and he takes his centrism to the GOP.)
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  2. CapitalistHippie Peace, love, and free markets.

    Apr 11, 2018
    What happened to Dole?
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  3. Wolfram Fair to middlin'

    Dec 5, 2010
    University of Houston, Houston, Texas
    I see what you did there.
  4. Amadeus Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2017
  5. Calcaterra Stuff About Politics (& Sports)

    Dec 26, 2017
    No, You
    Missed his window. Pete Wilson was nominated in 96' and seriously considered ol' Bobbo for the VP spot, but found that it would be challenging to keep up the image of change that he wanted to cultivate while lugging around a long-serving Senator and WWII veteran. He went with Dan Quayle instead, partially to appease the family values people, and partly to make sure the ticket was unmistakably youthful in at least some regard. Dan Quayle "potatoe"'d his way through the home stretch of the election, and the ill-advised mismanagement of the Wilson campaign, mixed with incumbent party fatigue, led to John Glenn taking the reins. Dole retired in 1998 and was replaced by Liddy, who then ran for President on a moderate platform, defeating the recession-stricken Glenn administration. She was unfortunately assassinated by a radical serial bomber, Theodore Kaczynski, in 2006.

    They had this really cute little kid who had the voice of a woman and was famously funny, little John E. Clinton.
  6. The Lethargic Lett Giving Peace a Chance

    Oct 20, 2017
    Couronian Tobago
    Unfortunate how little Johnny Clinton was framed for murder by Delta Airlines. A key moment in the nationalization of the airline industry.
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  7. Calcaterra Stuff About Politics (& Sports)

    Dec 26, 2017
    No, You
    The worst part, at least in my view, was how all those Best Buy Rewards Card commercials kept on running in the middle of the trial, with that obnoxious song, what was it called again? Oh yes, "What's New Pussycat" by Tom Jones.
  8. The Lethargic Lett Giving Peace a Chance

    Oct 20, 2017
    Couronian Tobago
    There truly was a sigh of relief when little Johnny Clinton was exonerated after the judge ruled it as "not an unusual case," but I think Bill exaggerated a bit when he compared it to the liberation of France.
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  9. Calcaterra Stuff About Politics (& Sports)

    Dec 26, 2017
    No, You
    It doesn't matter... the internet will always theorize about how they think he killed Princess Diana and that stuff.
  10. Joshua Ben Ari Well-Known Member

    Jan 16, 2011
    New England
    Presidents of the United States
    40. 1981-1989: Ronald Reagan / George H.W. Bush (Republican)
    41. 1989-1997: George H.W. Bush / J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (Republican)
    1988: Michael Dukakis / Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
    1992: William J. "Bill" Clinton / Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic), Ross Perot / James Stockdale (Independent)

    42. 1997-2005: Ann Richards / Lee H. Hamilton (Democratic)
    1996: Pete Wilson / William "Bill" Weld (Republican), Ross Perot / Pat Choate (Reform)
    2000: William "Bill" Weld / Lynn M. Martin (Republican), Donald J. Trump / Richard "Dick" Lamm (Reform)

    43. 2005-2009: Lee H. Hamilton / Bill Bradley (Democratic)
    2004: Tom Kean / Colin Powell (Republican), Donald J. Trump / Jesse Ventura (Reform)
    44. 2009-2017: Clint Eastwood / Norm Coleman (Republican)
    2008: Lee H. Hamilton / Bill Bradley (Democratic)
    2012: Joseph R. "Joe" Biden / Evan Bayh (Democratic)

    45. 2017-2000: Norm Coleman / Eric Cantor (Republican)
    2016: Evan Bayh / Michael Bennet (Democratic)

    Prime Ministers of Canada
    1980-1984: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal)
    1984-1984: John Turner (Liberal)
    1984-1993: John Crombie (Progressive Conservative)
    1984 (PC majority) def.: John Turner (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
    1988 (PC majority) def.: John Turner (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)

    1993-1997: Sheila Copps (Liberal)
    1993 (Liberal majority) def.: John Crombie (Progressive Conservative), Audrey McLaughlin (New Democratic), Lucien Bouchard (Bloc Quebecois), Preston Manning (Reform)
    1997-2007: Hugh Segal (Progressive Conservative)
    1997 (PC majority) def.: Sheila Copps (Liberal), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic), Preston Manning (Reform), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois)
    2001 (PC majority) def.: Sheila Copps (Liberal),
    Preston Manning (Reform), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois)
    2005 (PC majority) def.: Deborah Grey (Reform), Jack Layton (New Democratic), Allan Rock (Liberal), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois), Jim Harris (Green)
    2007-2010: Peter MacKay (Progressive Conservative)
    2010-2017: Robert "Bob" Rae (Liberal)
    2010 (Liberal minority) def.: Peter MacKay (Progressive Conservative), Deborah Grey (Reform), Jack Layton (New Democratic), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois), Jim Harris (Green)
    2013 (Liberal majority) def.: Michael Harris (Progressive Conservative),
    Thomas Mulcair (New Democratic), Deborah Grey (Reform), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois), Jim Harris (Green)
    2017-2000: Michael "Mike" Harris (Progressive Conservative)
    2017 (PC majority) def.: Robert "Bob" Rae (Liberal), Thomas Mulcair (New Democratic), Deborah Grey (Reform), Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Quebecois), Jim Harris (Green)
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  11. BlackentheBorg This is going to become a bad meme

    Jun 2, 2015
    Tried writing a dystopic UK list, one that was inspired by that really grim Save The Children advert.

    List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
    2016-2022: Theresa May (Conservative minority w/ DUP confidence & supply)

    defeated Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National), Tim Farron (LibDem), Arlene Foster (DUP), Gerry Adams (Sinn Féin), Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry (Green), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru)
    2022-2025: Victoria Atkins (Conservative majority)
    defeated Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Gavin Shuker (ChangeUK), Mike Hookem (Brexit/Sovereignty), Romayne Phoenix (Green Revolution), Norman Lamb (LibDem), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Fein), Adam Price (Plaid Cymru), Jonathan Bartley and Siân Berry ("Mainstay" Green)
    2025-2030: Clare Solomon (Labour Coalition w/ Green Revolution)
    defeated Victoria Atkins (Conservative), Evan Harris (LibDem), Romayne Phoenix (Green Revolution), Gavin Shuker (ChangeUK), Stewart Hosie (Scottish National), Mick Cash (Commonplace), Mike Hookem (Sovereignty), Emma Little-Pengelly (DUP), Mary Lou McDonald (Sinn Fein), Bethan Sayed (Plaid Cymru)
    2030-2035: James Cleverly (Conservative Coalition w/ Sovereignty & ChangeUK)
    defeated Clare Solomon (Labour), Ajay Jagota (Sovereignty), Evan Harris (LibDem), Stewart Hosie (Scottish National), Romayne Phoenix (Green Revolution), Mick Cash (Commonplace), Nora Mulready (ChangeUK), Colum Eastwood (Social Democratic and Labour), Bethan Sayed (Plaid Cymru)
    2035-2040: Paul Embery (Labour majority)
    defeated James Cleverly (Conservative), Amelia Womack (Green Revolution), Alan Ayling (UK Preservation/UKP), Evan Harris (LibDem), Luke Akehurst (ChangeUK), Jack Monroe (Commonplace), Ajay Jagota (Sovereignty), Chris McElny (Scottish National), Richard Seymour (Irish Coal and Steel Community), Bethan Sayed (Plaid Cymru)
    2040-2045: Priti Patel (Conservative minority w/ UKP)
    defeated Paul Embery (Labour), Alan Ayling (UKP), Jack Monroe (Commonplace), Hermione Peace (LibDem),Max Marlow (Sovereignty), Luke Akehurst (ChangeUK/Midway), Rhun ap Iorwerth (Plaid Cymru), Miles Briggs (Scottish National)
    2045-2046*: Zamzam Ibrahim (Labour Coalition w/ Green Revolution, LibDem, Commonplace & Scottish Labour)
    defeated Priti Patel (Conservative), Max Marlow (Sovereignty), Hermione Peace (LibDem), Alan Ayling (UKP), Angela Rayner (Midway), Amelia Womack (Green Revolution), Mark Serwotka (Commonplace), Katy Clark (Scottish Labour), Rhun ap Iorwerth (Plaid Cymru)

    List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom recognised by the United Nations, NATO
    2046-2046: Zamzam Ibrahim (National Consolidarity [Incumbent Labour])

    (elections suspended due to martial law)
    2046-2047: Wes Streeting (National Consolidarity [Labour])
    (ascended following Ibrahim's assassination)
    2047-2049: Tom Tugendhat (National Consolidarity [Conservative])
    (elected via Cabinet Interior Vote)
    2049-present: Karker Bakur (National Consolidarity [Labour])
    (elected via Cabinet Interior Vote)

    List of Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom recognised by the Government for English Defence
    2046-present: Anne Marie Waters ("UKP Committee to Retake Britain")
    serving with Ray Finch, Jonathan Arnott, Emily Hewertson, Richard Barnbrook

    Brexit happens. It's endlessly complicated, morally indecisive and somehow still unclear, but Brexit happens nonetheless. May, for once abiding by a promise she made a short while ago, steps down as Tory leader in the run-up to the 2022 election. The new PM, the bright-faced and relatively likeable Atkins, somehow manages to pull in a slight majority over Corbyn, who by all means was expecting to clean house as food shortages began to paralyse port cities all over the United Kingdom. Unfortunately Jezza wouldn't have a second go at taking the reigns as he is struck down by a distracted bus driver whilst out for his morning bike around Islington. Despite the fact that he's replaced by the equally anti-establishment Solomon, who ends up striking a deal with the Extinction-rebellion-affiliated-Greens offshoot in order to finally take back Parliament, a splinter group of working-class-adjacent folks start their own party in the same vein as when ChangeUK became a funnel for disenfranchised centrists. Then shit gets real crazy.

    The Brexit Party, formerly of UKIP blood, rebrands itself for the umpteenth time into the Sovereignty Party, and insists that it's totally not racist you guys, focusing on trivial quibbles such as reinstating the monarchy. These quibbles announce them to get in on the Cleverly cabinet, who catches a lot of flack when they announce that the country will no longer be accepting European imports in order to 'jumpstart british-lead production'. Meanwhile, after finally experimenting with some parties who aren't Sinn Fein, Ulster and the Irish Republic are finally united in an unexpected referendum initiated by PM Embery. Scotland, now flip flopping between their National and Labour parties, would also very much like a second independence referendum, but unfortunately for them, the UK has a much bigger problem on their hands.

    As if seeing Sargon of Akkad run for European Parliament and saying 'hold my beer', the ringleader of the EDL starts an even-further-to-the-right branch of the Sovereignty Party, going full draconian and demanding anyone who wasn't born in 'their country' be deported. He then immediately proceeds to contradict himself by allying with Prime Minister Patel, which gives the fringe and increasingly violent wing of the party to join in on the growing instances on street fighting and evan instances of EDL-sanctioned bombings. This only intensifies when Prime Minister Ibrahim 'steals control of parliament' with a minority coalition and ends up calling in the home guard to fight the admittedly racist rioters. Within the span of a few weeks, England is in open civil war.
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  12. Hedonic Hun Well-Known Member

    Oct 20, 2018
    Will there be notes? I'm really intrigued by this. Constructing a complex political background for a 3 minutes long video is AltHist at its finest.
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  13. BlackentheBorg This is going to become a bad meme

    Jun 2, 2015
    Essentially a worst-case scenario Brexit leads to more extreme leftwing/rightwing divide to the point of open war, pretty self explanatory. But I'll add a writeup now.
  14. X_X Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2017
    "Franklin Roosevelt once said to never forget that all Americans are the descendants of immigrants and revolutionaries… I response to by saying that I think FDR placed too much faith on the child inheriting the virtues of their parents…”

    1960: Goodwin Knight / David Rockefeller (Republican)

    Mike Mansfield / J. William Fulbright (Democrat)

    1964: Foster Furcolo / Edward V. Long (Democrat)

    David Rockefeller / William Knowland (Republican)

    James Eastland / George W. Andrews (Dixiecrat)

    1968: Lester Maddox / Clark Clifford (Democrat)

    William E. Miller / Edward Brooke (Republican)

    Jacob J. Javits / Patsy Mink (Progressive)

    1972: Lester Maddox / Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)

    Charles Mathias / G. Harrold Carswell (Republican)

    1976: Clint Eastwood / Mark Hatfield (Republican)

    Hubert Humphrey / David Hall (Democrat)

    Bryan Bowles / James von Brunn (Independent)

    1980: Clint Eastwood / Robert H. Michel (Republican)

    Edwin Edwards / Harry Van Arsdale Jr. (Democrat)

    Jim Jones / Robert W. Straub (Progressive)

    1984: Dick Cheney / David Bergland (Republican)

    Jesse Jackson / Fob James (Democrat)

    Patrick Lucey / Harvey Milk (Progressive)

    1988: Dick Cheney / David Bergland (Republican)

    John J. Gilligan / Mark White (Democrat)

    Bernie Sanders / Lenora Fulani (Progressive)

    1992: John J. Riccardo / Bob Casey Sr. (Democrat)

    Norman H. Bangerter / Arthur MacArthur IV (Republican)

    Pat Schroeder / Dennis Kucinich (Progressive)

    1996: Donald Harvey / Huey P. Newton (Republican)

    Bob Casey Sr. / Harry Reid (Democrat)

    Ralph Nader / Andre Marrou (Progressive)

    Don Black / David Duke (Natural Law)
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  15. Fenrisúlfr Worse than madness, I am sane.

    Mar 2, 2013
    Truly the darkest timeline! Great post pal.
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  16. Amadeus Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2017
    Return of the King: RFK Lives Continued

    43. Bill Clinton (1997-2005), D-AR
    VP: Bill Bradley (1997-2005), D-NJ
    44. Jeb Bush (2005-2013), R-FL
    VP: Tom Ridge (2005-2013), R-PA
    45. Barack Obama (2013-2021), D-IL
    VP: Russ Feingold (2013-2021), D-WI

    After Carter's 1984 loss, the Democrats went through an additional eight years of presidential defeats. President Heinz easily beat Colorado Senator Gary Hart to win a second term in 1988. Despite a recession in 1991, Vice-President Alexander narrowly upset former Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas to win a term in his own right. But by 1994 the Democrats were resurgent: the GOP was seen to have done nothing about the economic downturn, and NAFTA mobilized the Democratic base to route the Republicans in the midterm elections. This created an opportunity that Bill Clinton had been waiting for his entire life. Clinton had been elected Governor in 1978 and 1980, and was seen as a rising Democratic star. Yet he lost in the 1982 Republican wave year. After four years in the wilderness he made a comeback in 1986 and was re-elected Governor in 1990. Clinton had considered running in 1988 in 1992, but 1988 was too early and in '92 he'd yet to sort out questions over his messy personal life. With President Alexander vulnerable, and his political organization in full force, Clinton took the Democratic nomination and won a clear victory in the general election.

    Clinton's popularity quickly evaporated during a chaotic transition and an unfocused first hundred days that saw little accomplished on domestic issues. While Clinton's budget barely passed, his proposals for a middle class tax cut and an economic stimulus fell flat. Clinton was more successful in foreign policy: he pushed the Kyoto Protocol to ratification, ordered a military intervention into Kosovo, and played a crucial role in the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to Northern Ireland. While the Republicans made gains in 1998, the booming economy and Clinton's foreign policy victories made him unbeatable in 2000.

    2001 saw Clinton's skills in foreign policy work their greatest magic: he worked tirelessly to formulate a peace settlement between Israel and Palestine and negotiated a reunification plan for North and South Korea. But Bill Clinton, being Bill Clinton, would soon prove to be his own worst enemy: while fighting a sexual harassment lawsuit in court, he'd begun an affair with a Pentagon employee and former intern named Monica Lewinsky. They'd met in 1997 when Clinton first became President, and continued their relationship after Lewinsky started a career at the Pentagon. In 2002 the affair was made public but Clinton denied the story. The Democrats in Congress, worried the affair would jeopardize their thin majorities, opened an ethics investigation into the President. After nine months of denials, Clinton was forced to reveal the truth. With the economy in a mild recession and the public weary of Clinton's sex scandal, the Republicans retook the House in 2002.

    In 2004, Vice-President Bill Bradley narrowly lost his White House bid to former Florida Governor Jeb Bush as Republicans also retook the Senate. For eight years Bush governed as a moderate Republican, working to reduce the deficit and debt while compromising with Democrats on Social Security. After Bush's 2008 re-election, the housing bubble burst in 2009 and by 2010 the economy was in a severe recession. This opened the door for charismatic Illinois Senator Barack Obama to win the presidency in 2012, becoming America's first black President. Obama was re-elected in 2016 and remains highly popular thanks to a soaring economy. Looking ahead to 2020, Vice-President Russ Feingold is the likely Democratic nominee. Whether or not he will manage to succeed Obama remains to be seen.
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  17. Comrade Izaac Socialism and Liberty; Liberty or Death

    Mar 12, 2017
    Milwaukee, Combined Syndicates of America
    Life, Liberty, Labor-Presidents of the United States of America (1921-2017):

    1921-1923: Warren G. Harding (Republican-Ohio)/Calvin Coolidge (Republican-Vermont)
    1920 Def. Governor James M. Cox (Democratic-Ohio)/Assistant Secretary of the Navy Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic-New York)

    1923-1929: Calvin Coolidge (Republican-Vermont)/J. Will Taylor (Republican-Tennessee)
    1924 Def. Former Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic-California)/Senator Peter Gerry (Democratic-Rhode Island)/Senator William La Follette (Labor-Wisconsin)/Governor Upton Sinclair (Labor-California)

    1929-1933: J. Will Taylor (Republican-Tennessee)/Andrew Mellon (Republican-New York)
    1928 Def. Former Governor Al Smith (Democratic-New York)/Senator Cordell Hull (Democratic-Tennessee)/Governor Upton Sinclair (Labor-California)/Governor Henry Wallace (Labor-Iowa)

    1933-1941: Upton Sinclair (Labor-California)/Phillip La Follette (Labor-Wisconsin)
    1932 Def. Governor William "Alfalfa" Murray (Democratic-Oklahoma)/Governor Henry Morgenthau Jr. (Democratic-New York)/President J. Will Taylor (Republican-Tennessee)/Vice President Andrew Mellon (Republican)
    1936 Def. Governor Huey Long (Democratic-Louisiana)/Representative William Lemke (Democratic-North Dakota)/Senator William Borah (Republican-Idaho)/Senator Charles Curtis (Republican-Pennsylvania)

    1941-1945: Phillip La Follette (Labor-Wisconsin)/John L. Lewis (Labor-Virginia)
    1940 Def. Senator Charles Coughlin (Democratic-Michigan)/Senator Wendell Willkie (Democratic-New York)/Senator Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)/Senator Earl Warren (Republican-California)

    1945-1953: Smedley Butler (Labor-Pennsylvania)/Fiorello La Gaurdia (Labor-New York)
    1944 Def. Senator Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-New York)/General Harold Stassen (Republican-Minnesota)/Senator Claude Pepper (Democratic-Florida)/Governor Richard Russell Jr. (Democratic-Georgia)
    1948 Def. Former General Harold Stassen (Republican-Minnesota)/Representative Richard Nixon (Republican-California)/Senator Strom Thurmond (Democratic-South Carolina)/Senator Harry Byrd (Democratic-Virginia)

    1953-1961: Richard Nixon (Republican-California)/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts)
    1952 Def. Secretary of Agriculture Estes Kefauver (Labor-Tennessee)/Governor Maureen "Soapy" Williams (Labor-Michigan)/Senator Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic-Texas)/Governor Hoyt P. Taylor (Democratic-North Carolina)
    1956 Def. Governor Jim Folsom (Democratic-Alabama)/Representative William Stranton (Democratic-Illinois)/Former Governor Maureen "Soapy" Williams (Labor-Michigan)/Governor Edmund Muskie (Labor-Maine)

    1961-1967: George Wallace (Democratic-Alabama)/Abraham Ribicoff (Democratic-Rhode Island)
    1960 Def. Vice President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican-Massachusetts)/Governor Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York)/Senator Hubert Humphrey (Labor-Minnesota)/Secretary General of the National Industrial Sequence Walter Reuther (Labor-Michigan)
    1964 Def. Former Secretary of the Interior George W. Romney (Republican-Michigan)/Senator Everett Dirksen (Republican-Illinois)/Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Labor-Washington)/Former Representative Fob James (Labor-Alabama)/Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. (Railroad-Georgia)/Former Representative Bayard Rustin (Railroad-New York)

    1967-1969: George Wallace (Democratic-Alabama)/Orval Fabus (Democratic-Arkansas)

    1969-1977: Jimmy Carter (Democratic-Georgia)/Phillip Willkie (Democratic-New York)
    1968 Def. Governor John B. Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/Senator Hamilton Fish IV (Republican-New York)/Senator Eugene McCarthy (Labor-Minnesota)/Secretary General of the National Lawyers Sequence Adali Stevenson III (Labor-Illinois)/Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. (Railroad-Georgia)/Representative Shirley Chisolm (Railroad-New York)
    1972 Def. Senator Frank Church (Labor-Idaho)/Governor Carl Stokes (Labor-Ohio)/Governor Pete McCloskey (Republican-California)/Governor Patrick Lucey (Republican-Wisconsin)

    1976-1981: Pete McCloskey (Republican-California)/Jay Hammond (Republican-Alaska)
    1976 Def. Former Senator Frank Church (Labor-Idaho)/Senator Mike Gravel (Labor-Alaska)/Vice President Philip Willkie (Democratic-New York)/Governor Shirley Black (Democratic-Illinois)

    1981-1986: Cliff Finch (Democratic-Mississippi)/Bruce Babbitt (Democratic-Arizona)
    1980 Def. President Pete McCloskey (Republican-California)/Vice President Jay Hammond (Republican-Alaska)/Governor James Groppi (Labor-Wisconsin)/Representative Fred Harris (Labor-Oklahoma)
    1984 Def. Senator Walter Mondale (Labor-Minnesota)/Secretary General of the National Energy Sequence George H.W Bush (Labor-Texas)/Representative Lowell P. Wicker (Republican-Connecticut)/Senator Ron Paul (Republican-Texas)

    1986-1989: Bruce Babbitt (Democratic-Arizona)/Al Gore Jr. (Democratic-Tennessee)

    1989-1997: Dick Grephardt (Labor-Missouri)/Joseph R. "Joe" Biden (Labor-Delaware)
    1988 Def. Vice President Al Gore Jr. (Democratic-Tennessee)/Secretary of State Madeline Albright (Democratic-New York)/Senator Ron Paul (Republican-Texas)/Governor Micheal Dukakis (Republican-Massachusetts)
    1992 Def. J. Fox McKeithen (Democratic-Louisiana)/Senator Gary Locke (Democratic-Washington)/Senator Andre Mauro (Republican-Alaska)/Governor Ross Henry Perot (Republican-Texas)/Former Senator Mike Gravel (Independent Left/Railroad-Alaska)/Former Governor Jesse Jackson (Independent Left/Railroad-South Carolina)

    1997-2001: Gary Locke (Democratic-Washington)/Jay Rockefeller (Democratic-West Virginia)
    1996 Def. Vice President Joseph R. "Joe" Biden (Labor-Delaware)/Mayor of San Francisco Nancy Pelosi (Labor-California)/Governor Steve Forbes (Republican-New Jersey)/Governor Joe Lieberman (Republican-Connecticut)/Consumer Advocate Ralph Nader (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Connecticut)/Former Lt. Governor Al Sharpton (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-New York)

    2001-2005: Elizabeth Dole (Republican-North Carolina)/John Kasich (Republican-Ohio)
    2000 Def. President Gary Locke (Democratic-Washington)/Vice President Jay Rockefeller (Democratic-West Virginia)/Former Secretary of State John Kerry (Labor-Massachusetts)/Representative Bob Graham (Labor-Florida)/Representative Dennis Kucinich (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Ohio)/Representative Peter Camejo (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-California)
    2004 Def. Governor Howard Dean (Labor-Vermont)/Representative Barbra Boxer (Labor-California)/General Wesley Clark (Democratic-Arkansas)/Governor Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic-Kansas)/Representative Dennis Kucinich (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Ohio)/State Senator David Cobb (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Texas)

    2009-2013: John Edwards (Democratic-North Carolina)/Alan Keyes (Democratic-Maryland)
    2008 Def. Vice President John Kasich (Republican-Ohio)/Senator Willard "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Michigan)/Senator Evan Bayh (Labor-Indiana)/Senator Bill Richardson (Labor-New Mexico)/Representative Anthony Ponilla (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Vermont)/President of UNITE! Carol Mosley Braun (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Illinois)

    2013-Present: Martin O'Malley (Labor-Maryland)/Barbra Lee (Labor-California)
    2012 Def. Secretary of the Interior Kathleen Sebelius (Democratic-Kansas)/Senator Herman Cain (Democratic-Georgia)/Senator Willard "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Michigan)/Governor Randal "Rand" Paul (Republican-Kentucky)/Governor Winona La Duke (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Minnesota)/Representative Cornell West (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-New Jersey)
    2016 Def. Representative William Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)/Governor Gary Johnson (Republican-New Mexico)/Governor Ben Carson (Democratic-Florida)/Senator Ted Cruz (Democratic-Texas)/Mayor of New York City Zephyr Teachout (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-New York)/Senator Anderson Cooper (Independent Left/Railroad/Greens-Pennsylvania)

    -The United States of America is in a very precarious situation in 2017.

    While the country briefly experienced a sort of "golden decade" during the 1990s, the illusion of prosperity has shattered in the past twenty years. Politically speaking, the United States has seen a drastic political realignment after the Administration of Dick Grephardt, with the vast corruption within all three of the United States' dominant parties and the lack of major political progress causing many Americans faith in government to erode. To make matters worse for the American political establishment, the recession of 2006 has seen thousands to loose their jobs and sink into poverty, causing widespread economic anxiety, even among many Americans who were previous completely economically secure. The vast migration wave from the Latin American States hasn't helped either. Hundreds of thousands of migrants and refugees have flooded into the Southern Border States, sparking ethnic tensions between the local White and Black majority and the new Hispanic settlers. The U.S is also in a very tough situation diplomatically speaking, as well. While the United States has been able to largely remain isolated from the affairs of the outside world since the end of the Second World War, the recent rise in tensions between the Moscow Concordat and the Atlantic Defense Association has forced the American Government to play peacemaker. Unfortunately, this has had the unintended consequence of both factions seeking out the United States' assistance. Prime Minster Peterson and General Secretary Suraykin have both been breathing down President O'Malley's neck more and more recently.

    This has all fallen upon President Martin O'Malley, who is trying desperately to do what he can to fix the United States' predicament. However, with a divided congress, a populous hungry for political action, and an ongoing investigation into the ethics of the United States' dominant political factions, can he actually succeed?

    Parties in the United States of America (Circa 2017):

    Labor: Federal Syndicalism, Labor Social Democracy, Social Conservatism (Factions), Social Progressivism (Factions)
    Once the dominant party of the American Left, leading the country through some of it's darkest times, including the Great Depression and the Second World War, the American Labor Party has fallen from grace. At one point in time, the American Labor Party was the hammer of the American Working Class, creating some of the most prominent social programs and reforms, such as the National American Medical Program and the Labor Sequences, and embedding the principles of Federal Syndicalism into the very core of American society. However, the party has seen it's power slowly erode over the past three decades, a combination of vast deep seeded corruption and a shift to the ideological center driving many Americans who had once considered the Labor Party the shining beacon of working class power away. Even through the Grephardt days, where the party seemingly rebounded after nearly four decades in the political wilderness, the party was declining, and nowadays the party is just a shell of it's former self. Parties like the Independent Left and The Greens have tore into the party's base of blue collar laborers, minorities, and students, reducing the power of the party even more. This is perhaps no better reflected in the fact that President O'Malley, who hales from the Labor Party, was elected by only two percentage points against a Party whose incumbent President was embroiled in both a sex scandal and a corruption indictment. Things may be looking up for the party, however, as President O'Malley is currently enjoying stable approval ratings and his recent four point re-election has given many party stalwarts hope that Labor can retake it's status as the party of the American workers once more. Though, if Special Counsel Sanders' investigations reveal any damning information about the party, these hopes may be dashed.

    Republicans: Social Liberalism, Fiscal Conservatism, Liberal Conservatism
    The Party of both Lincoln and Nixon, the GOP has had it's ups and downs over the past hundred years. While many thought the party was destined to collapse during the 1930s, as the party struggled to overcome it's image as the "Party of the Depression", it's eventual revival as the party of the "American Majority" during the forties and fifties, in no small part due to the efforts of liberal figures like Thomas Dewey and Richard Nixon, set the party on the path to once again become the political behemoth it is today. In modern times, the Republicans are known as the representatives of the American middle class. Themes of business and entrepreneurship are at the heart of the Republican message to the American people, with a dash of social liberalism with their history of advocacy of civil rights. Of course, this is all undercut by the Party's corruption. Much like their sister parties, the Republicans are heavily corrupt, with many elected officials and key figures in the party being in the pockets of big business and other special interest groups. This has become a major problem for the Republicans, especially in the last ten years, as the Party's corruption has become more prominent, staining the party's previous image as the torchbearers of prosperity and clean governance. Still, though, the Republicans are doing far better than their counterparts, as the party's suburban base is willing to remain loyal to the party as long as the economy stays stable. While the 2006 Recession has affected this slightly, the Republicans have been able to shift the blame to the opposition as Labor and the Democrats have been unable to rectify the situation, and the Party's base has largely believed it.

    Democratic: Social Conservatism, Economic Populism, Wallacism, Religious Conservatism
    Perhaps the oddest party ideologically speaking, the Democrats combine staunch social conservatism and Social Democratic economic populism. This strange ideological synthesis, popularized by figures like Huey Long and of course, George Wallace, the father of the modern Democratic Party, has allowed the party to appeal to a large portion of the American electorate, allowing it to both retain it's base comprised of rural voters, religious voters, and older voters and also capture a large amount of swing voters. This is generally the coalition that puts the Democrats in the white house. The fact that it is objectively the least corrupt of the three major parties helps to maintain this coalition. The scandalous Edwards Administration has somewhat hurt the party and the fact that social conservatism is slowly, but surely dying in the United States is a major concern for party leaders, but the Democrats rebounded in 2016 and are expected to gain once again in the 2020 elections. I suppose that's appropriate, considering the party's long history of being isolated to the political wilderness. But, the party of Wallace always comes back eventually.

    Independent Left: Left Liberterianism, Alter-Globalization, Anti-Corruption
    Originally a left-wing protest party formed by disgruntled members of the Labor Party, the Independent Left has grown to become not only a legitimate political force, but a powerful one. As the Labor Party has faltered, the ILP has slowly ate into it's base, with the party's radical left-libertarian platform and anti-corruption advocacy endearing it to many Labor voters who feel abandoned by the increasingly centre-leaning politics of the party. In the last decade, the ILP's popularity has exploded, and the Party has become the primary member of the so-called "Progressive Alliance". Recently, in the 2016 election, the party took 15.7% of the vote, with the Progressive Alliance winning nearly three dozen seats in the House and seven in the senate. If the ILP can continue to expand it's coalition, many political theorists have speculated that it is possible that the party may surpass the Democrats to become the third largest party in the United States.

    Railroad: Minority Rights, Christian Socialism, Religious Left
    Founded in 1963 by legendary civil rights activist Reverend Martin Luther King, at the time frustrated with the lack of progress of the Black Civil Rights Movement, the Railroad is the primary party of the black and brown left. For a time, the Railroad was an immense political force, representing the interests of Black Americans in a nation run by an open neo-segregationist. While it briefly fell into obscurity in the 1970s and 1980s as the Labor Party embraced the civil rights movement, the Party was reborn again in the 1990s after Jesse Jackson, with the blessing of the aging King, took the reigns of the party and rallied the African-American left against the Labor Party, who had become more friendly to law-and-order politics as figures like Joe Biden became prominent in Labor Leadership. With it's revival, the party has seen itself revitalized as the primary partner of the Progressive Alliance, with the party attracting both young, urban African-Americans who like the party due to it's advocacy for criminal justice reform and older, more religious African-Americans who previously aligned with the Labor Party or the Democrats, who like the party's synthesis of Christian social beliefs and Socialist economics. Recently, the party has also seen an influx of Hispanic-Americans and Latino-Americans, who support the party's strong support for immigrant rights.

    Greens: Green Politics, Eco-Socialism, Ecological Labor
    During the 1990s, environmentalism surged in the United States after events like the 1993 TEXCO Oil Spill. Many American environmentalists found themselves lost, however, as most of the three major parties were either extremely moderate on environmental issues in an attempt to appeal to their base, like Labor, or openly hostile to the environmentalist causes, like the Democrats and Republicans. Realizing that they were going to go nowhere in the three major parties, environmentalist leaders decided to form their own party. Said party would be the Greens. While it was somewhat irrelevant for a few years, with the party's only real base being among educated middle-class environmentalists, the Greens were able to spread their message more effectively after joining the Progressive Alliance. Soon, cities like San Francisco, Seattle, and New Orleans, which had become the epicenter of the environmentalist movement, became fertile electoral ground for the Green Party. Since then, the party has been able to elect itself a handful of representatives, a senator, and a governor.

    Major International Heads of State:

    General Secretary Maxim Suraykin (CPSU); Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    Prime Minister Jordan B. Peterson (National Reform); Canadian Republic

    Chancellor Angela Merkel (Zentrum); German Federal Republic

    President John McDonell (Labor)/Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn (Labor); United Kingdom

    Empress Akio (Imperial House of Japan); Empire of Japan

    President Jean Luc Mechelon (PCF/Union 68'); French Commune
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  18. Aequanimitas Well-Known Member

    Jun 10, 2017
    Presidents of the CSA

    The CSA in this timeline are composed by the States of : Bermuda, Bahamas, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Dominica, Cuba, Yucatan, Alaska, Virginia, Kentucky, Maryland, Delaware, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Nevada, California, Jackson, Baja California, Arizona, New Mexico, Rio Grande, Chihuahua, Sonora, Guam, Guyana.

    1862 - 1868: Jefferson Davis/Alexander Stephens D-Kentucky
    1868 - 1874: Alexander Stephens/Louis Wigfall D-Georgia
    1874 - 1880: Robert M. T. Hunter/Augustus H. Garland D-Tennessee
    1880 - 1886: Augustus H. Garland/William Smith D-Tennessee
    1886 - 1892: James Longstreet/Fitzhugh Lee W-South Carolina
    1892 - 1898: Benjamin Tillmann/Lawrence Ross D-South Carolina
    1898 - 1904: George W. Atkinson/Jesse James R-Virginia
    1904 - 1910: James K. Vardaman/Jeff Davis W-Texas
    1910 - 1922: Woodrow Wilson/William H. Milton D-Virginia
    1922 - 1928: William J. Stone/William E. Chilton D-Missouri
    1928 - 1934: Joseph T. Robinson/J. Garrett W-Arkansas
    1934 - 1940: Huey Long/John N. Garner W-Louisiana
    1940 - 1946: Carl Hayden/Carter Glass D-Arizona
    1946 - 1952: Alben W. Barkley/George Marshall D-Kentucky
    1952 - 1958: Dwight D. Eisenhower/Fulgencio Batista R-Texas
    1958 - 1964: Fulgencio Batista/Charles Lindbergh R-Cuba
    1964 - 1970: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert Byrd D-Texas
    1970 - 1976: Robert Byrd/Jere Beasley D-Virginia
    1976 - 1982: Jimmy Carter/George Busbee D-Georgia
    1982 - 1988: Al Gore Sr/Zell Miller D-Tennessee
    1988 - 1994: George H.W. Bush/Bill Archer R-Texas
    1994 - 2000: Bill Clinton/Al Gore Jr. D-Arkansas
    2000 - 2006: Al Gore Jr./Mel Martinez D-Tennessee
    2006 - 2012: Martin Luther King/Marco Rubio R-Georgia
    2012 - 2018: Marco Rubio/Jeb Bush R-Florida
    2018 - 2024: Sarah Palin/Ted Cruz R-Alaska
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  19. Amadeus Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2017
    Bush Sr was born in Massachusetts. So unless his family moves to the South before he is born (which I find unlikely), he probably wouldn't be eligible to run. In this ATL, he is more likely to be a Senator from Connecticut.
  20. Newne76 Prime Minister of Soda

    Jun 25, 2018
    Presidents of the United States
    33. Rexford Tugwell/Henry A. Wallace (Progressive)
    (January 20th,1941-January 20th,1945)

    1940 Def: Thomas Dewey/Charles Halleck (Northern Conservative)
    William B. Bankhead/Cordell Hull (Southern Conservative)

    With the upset victory of Rexford Tugwell over the well established two party system, he would immediately set out to conduct what he had promised his constituents and the forty million voters which had put him in the white house. He promised sweeping electoral reform and massive government reform, calling upon the bizarre system of state conventions to ratify a slew of government shake up bills to the very foundation of the United States. After close to a year of working out the details with many senators and representatives from all sides, he was able to pass the bill through, sign it and leave it up to the states to ratify such an agreement.

    Despite the relatively tight schedule of from November 1943 to November of 1944 where he was planning on holding the new elections, a majority of the states finalized their signatures on the legislation with 36 of the 48 total states ratifying the amendment. The United States had a relatively quiet death with the formal name change to the Union of Allied States, named in part for an added measure of moral support for the Allied Powers of the ongoing world war.

    President-Ministers of the Union of Allied States
    1. Rexford Tugwell (Progressive)
    (January 20th,1945-January 20th,1957)

    400 total seats
    [200] (majority) Def: Northern Conservative [140] Southern Conservative [58] Independent [2]
    [277] (majority) Def: Northern Conservative [43] Southern Conservative [78] Nationalist [1] Independent [1]
    [278] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [40] Southern Conservative [78] Socialist [2] Nationalist [1] Independent [1]

    The First four years of his President-Ministry proved to be the trailblazer for the next heads of state within the office of P-M. He attempted to, in his words "convey an appearance of the 1940s version of George Washington". Historians have debated if this attempt had succeeded, with the notable passing of sweeping land reform acts by the majority within the new legislature. He also managed to pass the controversial Marriage Rights Act of 1950, which forbid discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender. His time as President-Minister was seen as one of supposed weakness on foreign policy, something that a Texan senator turned legally married partner of an Arizonan senator would exploit and win off of in the 1956 legislative elections.

    2. Lyndon Goldwater (Southern Conservative)
    (January 20th,1957-January 20th,1969)

    [260] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [48] Progressive [40] Socialist [22] New Progressive [12] Nationalist [10] Whig [5] Union [2] All American [1]

    [195+14 =209] (Coalition with All American) Def: Northern Conservative [50] Progressive [41] Socialist [25] New Progressive [24] Nationalist [23] Whig [20] Union [8]

    [210] (Majority) Def:Northern Conservative [55] Progressive [50] Socialist [40] New Progressive [14] Nationalist [13] Union [10] All American [7] Whig [1]

    The overwhelming victory by the Southern Conservative party came as no surprise with the exception of the far left wing branch of the Progressives, which wanted to bring more change in the areas of gender equality, race relations and religious freedom. It was seen as a staunchly Christian backlash against the more secular version of the Progressive wings which they felt as though they were dissolving organized religion.
    It came as even more of a surprise that a gay, more libertarian type figure with an abhorrence of the religious right came out as the Southern Conservative Prime Minister. These tensions would continue to boil as the hot headed Goldwater would frequently spar with his own party members. Normally the Progressives would be foolish to not take advantage of such a splintering within the Southern Conservatives, though aging cautious leadership, not wanting to alienate the moderate progressive wing of the party that still voted with the southern conservatives via ticket splitting of the local offices would be the fools.

    Goldwater's foreign policy was mostly hawkish, perfectly in line with the more war like Southern Conservative membership and MPs. He would embroil the UAS with an invasion of Morocco to overthrow the communist backed government. After sixty thousand dead Americans and a lessened parliamentarian majority was all they had to show for it after four years, they would humiliatingly pull out of the conflict.

    3. Nelson Rockefeller (Northern Conservative)
    (January 20th,1969-January 20th,1973)

    427 seats
    [311] (Majority) Def: Southern Conservative [30] True Progressive [20] Real Socialist [21] Union [20] Nationalist [15] All American [8] Whig [1] Progressive-Socialist [1]

    Promising a more moderate government and running on the slogan "The Moderates will Govern Moderately" pulled in a large group comprised of anti war protesters, unemployed workers and government contractors who were furious that a semi-free market was being implemented to replace the work that they did for the armed forces. It was with this very specific and yet varied coalition of voters that the Northern Conservatives swept much of the Boarder States and the West Coast with an unprecedented 311 total seats.

    President-Minister Rockefeller would administer the Rockefeller Policy, which regulated the amount of aid american backed dictators would get depending on how well they treated their citizens and civil liberties throughout the country. This policy's intentions were to unintentionally encourage democratization between the dictators of various African and European countries. The actual effect of the policy was the immediate switching over of several african and middle eastern dictatorships to some sort of red banner while ringing up the People's Czar for military aide and a couple tanks.

    One of the most disastrous question regarding this policy became who was to blame for the loss of Germany. The Germany Question would rage throughout the 1970s as a key cornerstone of future american foreign policy within the European continent. The People's Kaiser Wilhelm III would solidify the ties with the crown communist run monarchies of China, Russia and the Second Ottoman Empire.

    4. Harry S. Truman (Northern Conservative)*
    (January 20th,1973-December 26th,1973)

    [218] (Majority) Def: All American [80] Nationalist [62] Southern Conservative [41] Real Socialist [20] True Progressive [5] Whig [1]
    Clinging to political office with a bare three seat majority in Parliament, the Truman Administration would be one of frequent compromise with the more numerous All American party and Nationalists, yet attempting to appease their more progressive side and trying to woo the True Progressives by declaring frequently that they had the majority and did not need a coalition. The governing party would, under his instruction and guidance, shoot down any and all proposals made that were too radical or not large enough.

    Historians generally rate his President-Ministerial role within the history as mediocre at best while noting some of the minute reforms passed by his administration in the easement of medical records between patients and their doctors along with an ease of military high command structuring that would allow on the spot decisions to be undertaken by junior ranking officers.

    5. George Lincoln Rockwell (All American)
    (December 26th,1973-January 20th,1981)

    [291] (Majority) Def: Northern Conservative [48] Nationalist [40] Southern Conservative [42] Socialist [4] True Progressive [1] Whig [1]
    Appointed President-Minister upon the death of truman initially as an attempt by the minority for a joke, he would prove to be hot headed and frequently paranoid throughout his tenure, authorizing the controversial overthrow of the british communist monarchy under People's Queen Elizabeth II and installing a brutal military junta in it's place. He would promote his nationalist ideas throughout various western backed client states of the UAS, managing to launch a full scale invasion of Mexico upon their election of a Moscow backed communist party in democratic elections. It would be under his tenure that the Rockefeller Doctrine would be terminated and replaced with the much more aggressive and similar sounding Rockwell Doctrine.

    Under the Rockwell Doctrine, the slightest provocation by the People's Empire of Russia would mean total nuclear holocaust for the entire world. While he had been supported heavily by former President-Minister Goldwater, the more moderate Northern Conservatives and splintered Progressive movements were alienated and horrified at such a reckless policy.

    Rockwell would launch an invasion of Canada when a political cartoon was published in the Washington Post that was critical of Rockwell. The Cartoon War of 1975 was considered to be the climax of the Rockwell Doctrine, with the atomic leveling of Ottawa in retaliation for such a heinous caricature of the beloved leader.

    With the controversial deaths of over 150,000 Canadians weighing heavily on the minds of many in the 1976 legislative elections, the party was nonetheless granted a majority of seats because of high approval for his actions at the time.
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