List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Stressman and Airshipman too!

I believe you are forgetting the late Denis Healey (who ttl is probably a prominent figure within the Communist 'shadow cabinet', as it were). ;)

I was forgetting Airshipman! I do love Airshipman, and Streseman too. Boy 'tis a better TL to be a German in (at least til the Fifties.) And you are quite right, that was a serious oversight on my part, Den needs to be mentioned in the same company, he was a fabulous and game bronze medalist (but only bronze I think because Woodcock's brows are like ****ing bocage and Griffiths' brows alone should've won Best Supporting Oscar for How to Steal a Million.) You're entirely welcome for the excellent work. Leave the Duce, take the canoli :)
 
@spookyscaryskeletons,

Another thing about your early-EU list: it's going to have a very interesting Middle East. I imagine ITTL Stalin's able to throw a bone to the muzhiks by not at all subtly turning de-kulakification into de-Jewification across southern Russia and Ukraine, while the right-wing Polish regime actively encourage emigration from the Pale to get ethnic Poles settled closer to the unsteady border with Russia. They're not all going to end up in Flushing or Golders Green. Also a fair amount of movement from Bavaria where the NSDAP is strongest. I imagine Amery (backing Churchill) decides to do the British thing and support the "warrior races" -- these "modern Maccabees" and the Hashemite Bedouin in British-controlled territories, while the French back the Maronites and Alawites in their Syria-Lebanon mandate. That's going to create a whole bubbling underclass of generic Sunni Arabs across the Levant ripe for revolt. (Could also see Bevan being pro-Zionist ITTL on the grounds that all these East European migrants are likely to have a higher proportion of kibbutzim per capita.) Also that Persia is likely to be a very major second front in the war when it does come a la the race for Suez in OTL's WWII (where Iraq, again by repressing the Sunnis and favoring others, could act as a major staging post to cut the Red Army off in the Zagros Mountains -- Royal Kurdish Rifles anybody?) And in the presumably three-party United States ("President MacAdoo" can only be a trip down a dark road, and one likely to lead to a Roosevelt/LaFollette family alliance reinvigorating the Progressives) if President Taft ever gets in there he's not only going to fulminate about imperial machinations in the Holy Land, his quiet but quite genuine anti-Semitism will do refugees fleeing the USSR no favors. I do like it when lists let you peer into other worlds fully. Thanks again.

Oh by the way how's Leon Blum doing in this bold new Europe? I could on a different note see Reynaud and Von Lettow-Vorbeck starting the Franco-German reconciliation of OTL's Adenauer and De Gaulle...
 
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1932-1934: Leo Amery (National)
1932 (Coalition with Conservatives and National Democrats) def. Ramsay MacDonald (Labour), Noel Skelton (Conservative), Christopher Turnor (National Democrat), Tudor Rees (Liberal), Harry Pollitt (Socialist Labour), various (Workers of Britain)

MOAR
 
LordandsaviorKloka - Kennedy doesn't run in 1964?
1961-1965:John F.Kennedy/Lyndon B.Johnson
1965-1973:Lyndon B.Johnson/Carl Albert
1973-1975: Morris Udall/none
1975-1977:Morris Udall/John Sparkman

1977-1981:Ronald Reagan/George H.W.Bush
1981-1985:Ronald Reagan/Margaret Chase Smith
1985-1993:Edward M.Kennedy/Jacob Javits

1993-1997:Bernie Sanders/Daniel Inouye
1997:Bernie Sanders/none
1997-2001:Bernie Sanders/John Glenn

2001-2005:Bob Dole/Rick Lazio
2005-2009:Barack Obama/Hillary Schmitt
2009-2013:Barack Obama/John Kerry
2013-2017:Elizabeth Warren/Joe Biden

2017-2025:John Kasich/Devon Whitelaw
2025-2033:Elise Stefanik/Cheryl Roarke

footnotes and defeated tickets to come
 
Accurateworldwar - The Clash of Dynasties!
The Clash of Dynasties!
35. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1969)

-defeated Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.
-defeated Barry Goldwater/William Scranton

36. George Romney/Ronald Reagan (1969-1973)
-defeated Hubert Humphrey/Birch Bayh

37. Robert F. Kennedy/Edmund Muskie (1973-1981)
-defeated George Romney/Ronald Reagan
-defeated Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford

38. George H.W. Bush/Scott Romney (1981-1985)
-defeated Jerry Brown/Jimmy Carter

39. Edward Kennedy*/Bill Clinton (1985-1987)
-defeated George H.W. Bush/Scott Romney

40. Bill Clinton/Al Gore (1987-1992)
-defeated Bob Dole/Al Haig

41. Scott Romney/George W. Bush (1992-2001)

-defeated Al Gore/Bob Kerrey
-defeated Bob Kerrey/Doug Wilder

42. Hillary Clinton/Dick Gephart (2001-2005)
-defeated Newt Gingrich/Mitt Romney

43. Mitt Romney/George W. Bush (2005-2013)
-defeated Hillary Clinton/Dick Gephart
-defeated Donald Trump/Caroline Kennedy

44. Caroline Kennedy/Barack Obama (2013-present)

-defeated George W. Bush/Rick Santorum
-defeated George P. Bush/Scott Walker



 
1961-1965:John F.Kennedy/Lyndon B.Johnson
1965-1973:Lyndon B.Johnson/Carl Albert
1973-1975: Morris Udall/none
1975-1977:Morris Udall/John Sparkman

1977-1981:Ronald Reagan/George H.W.Bush
1981-1985:Ronald Reagan/Margaret Chase Smith
1985-1993:Edward M.Kennedy/Jacob Javits

1993-1997:Bernie Sanders/Daniel Inouye
1997:Bernie Sanders/none
1997-2001:Bernie Sanders/John Glenn

2001-2005:Bob Dole/Rick Lazio
2005-2009:Barack Obama/Hillary Schmitt
2009-2013:Barack Obama/John Kerry
2013-2017:Elizabeth Warren/Joe Biden

2017-2025:John Kasich/Devon Whitelaw
2025-2033:Elise Stefanik/Cheryl Roarke

footnotes and defeated tickets to come
There is so much wrong with this list.
 
Turquoise Blue - I mean, why not a punny name list?
I mean, why not a punny name list?
1933-1934: Dick Tater (Fascist)
[1]
1934-1938: General May Hamm (Military) [2] [resigned]
1938-1939: Major Des Astor (Military) [3] [assassinated]
1939-1942: Corporal Puny Schmint (Military) [4] [removed]
1942-1945: Marshall Law (National Unity) [5]
1945-1953: Warren Pease (National Unity) [6]
1953-1961: Alec Tricity (Social Democratic) [7]
1961-1965: Admiral Isa Berg (Social Democratic) [8]
1965-1971: I. P. Freely (Republican) [9] [resigned]
1971-1973: Dennis Court (Republican) [10]
1973-1981: Igor Beaver (Social Democratic) [11]
1981-1983: Admiral Archie Pelago (Republican) [12] [died]
1983-1989: Otto Mattick (Republican) [13]
1989-1991: Kermit Acremi (Republican) [14] [impeached]
1991-1993: Joe Kerr (Republican) [15]
1993-2001: Anna Droid (Social Democratic) [16]
2001-2009: Dusty Rhodes (Republican) [17]
2009-2017: Marie Christie Masse (Social Democratic) [18]
2017-20__: Benny Volent (Independent) [19]

[1] America's first fascist president would turn out its only one, as President Tater was toppled by the military only a year later.

[2] General Hamm's presidency started the "Era of Silence", in which authoritarianism ruled. She governed with an iron fist and shaped America's society into a more militaristic, more "Prussian" one. This would have far-reaching consequences.

[3] After President Hamm resigned due to a severe illness that would eventually kill her, power went to Major Des Astor. Major Astor would only be a footnote as he died by an assassin's bullet a year later.

[4] History will forever remember Corporal Puny Schmint, for the harsh crackdowns he implemented and for his generous use of the whip. Removed by moderate forces in the military, who then formed the National Unity Party.

[5] President Law continued the "Era of Silence", but he did slowly restore American democracy. Under his watch, America entered the Global War.

[6] President Warren Pease is known as the "Quiet Voice". Leading America through the tumultous Global War, his quiet soothing voice proved a comfort to many Americans, but the slow decline of the NUP continued as the Republicans and SDP became more popular. Stepping down in 1953, he remains very popular today.

[7] The first democratically-elected President in twenty years, President Tricity was elected on an infrastructure platform and he delivered. Working with the Republicans and slowly-vanishing NUP, he created the "Connected Nation" programs that led to rural electrification, building of many bridges and finally ended the "Era of Silence" with his "Speak Up, America!" speech that shocked Presidents Schmint, Law and Pease while finally collapsing the last vestiges of martial government.

[8] Admiral Isa Berg is unfairly remembered as the "Ice Queen". Brought up in a deeply martial household, she was taught to control her emotions, she reached the newspapers for heading the successful Arctic Campaign in the Global War. Elected as a Social Democrat, she served only one term before being defeated by the GOP. A bachelorette all through her presidency, she ended up marrying fellow Admiral Archie Pelago and so ended up the only person to be both President and First Spouse.

[9] Poor President I. P. Freely. Elected in a strong victory, promising "New Republicanism", he approved of policies to clean water, protect the environment and implemented universal healthcare and stronger santation laws. But all that people remember is "Watergate", where he was revealed to have a fetish for being peed on. Intensely ashamed, he resigned and left Washington in disgrace.

[10] All that people recall of the brief presidency of Dennis Court is of his "Tennis Speech" where he announced that America would withdraw from Cambodia while playing an admittedly-good game of tennis with his Vice-President.

[11] Tricity and Berg were moderates who sought to compromise with the Republicans. Not so with President Beaver, a radical eager to transform America. Using his strong majority thanks to the backlash from "Watergate", Beaver created the "Modern Society", vast welfare reforms that created America's modern welfare state.

[12] Admiral Pelago, known as "Happy Archie", was twenty years Berg's junior, but by all accounts the match was one made in heaven. Pelago was an admiral who made his fame in the short Pacific War with Australia, and was elected as a moderate, "let make this work" Republican. His presidency was cut short by a freak storm that brought down Air Force One, killing many, including Presidents Pelago and Berg, and Vice-President Jack B. Nimble.

[13] President Mattick is well known for overseeing the uneasy transition from a human-centred economy to a primarily-automatic one. Pushing the "artisan economy" was his main contribution to the debate, and even today, it remains his greatest legacy.

[14] The revelation of President Acremi's criminal deeds shattered people's trust in politicians, and led to his impeachment.

[15] Joe Kerr was a genial president who nevertheless knew when it was time to be serious. He lifted America's spirits up from the trauma of Acremi and promised that "morning is finally here again in America". Unfortunately, he failed to convince them to give the Republicans another term.

[16] President Droid was a technophile who advocated robot rights. Republicans whipped themselves up in a frenzy over a "maker" conspiracy theory that alleged that President Droid was not born, but made! [Also, possibly made by the damn commies] Investigations revealed nothing robot-like about President Droid and she won re-election in a landslide. Two decades later, she came out as robosexual.

[17] President Rhodes is not well remembered today, primarily because he oversaw the collapse of the "Connected Nation" infrastructure and did nothing due to his strongly libertarian beliefs. He nevertheless won re-election thanks to the SDP being split between the official campaign of moderate Senator Eileen Dover and the independent campaign of radical-leftist Governor Paul Dowen.

[18] President Christie Masse is well-known for her "Happy Nation" policies which aimed to reverse the decline that Rhodes oversaw, and the final fruition of President Mattick's "artisan economy", with the rollout of the new "Amerket" [it was supposed to be a catchy hybrid of America and market but it went terribly wrong] website where people could sell things they made themselves online to interested buyers.

[19] The unbelievably kind and ever-generous public figure of philanthropist and humanitarian Benny Volent was elected in a 50-state landslide and even as of 2020, Social Democrats and Republicans fear attacking this intensely popular president. He is expected to win another landslide.
 
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AidanM - Dukakis '88
Dukakis '88
1989-1993: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen

def. 1988: George H. W. Bush/Dan Quayle
1993-1997: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
def. 1992: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1997-2005: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
def. 1996: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp
def. 2000: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

2005-2009: Al Gore/John Kerry
def. 2004: John McCain/Christine Todd Whitman
2009-2017: Mitt Romney/Rick Perry
def. 2008: Al Gore/John Kerry
def. 2012: John Kerry/Hillary Clinton

2017-present: Barack Obama/Martin O'Malley
def. 2016: Rick Perry/Rand Paul
 
I don't want to sound rude, because we all start out like this, but your lists are very convergent @AidanM, they're not bad certainly, but maybe you could add some less obvious figures? :)
 
dw93 - The Result of Treason, Bribes, and Tax Evasion
The Result of Treason, Bribes, and Tax Evasion:
37. Hubert Humphrey | Edmund Muskie (Democratic): 1969-1973
Def. 1968: Richard Nixon | Spiro Agnew (Republican), George Wallace | Curtis Lemay (American Independent)

38. Ronald Reagan | Charles Percy (Republican): 1973-1981
Def. 1972: Hubert Humphrey | Edmund Muskie (Democratic)
Def. 1976: George McGovern | Jimmy Carter (Democratic)


39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson | Jerry Brown (Democratic): 1981-1982
Def. 1980: Bob Dole | Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)

40. Jerry Brown | Vacant (Democratic): 1982-1983
40. Jerry Brown | John Glenn (Democratic): 1983-1989

Def. 1984: Howard Baker | Paul Laxalt (Republican)

41. Jack Kemp | Dick Lugar (Republican): 1989-1997
Def. 1988: Mario Cuomo | Gary Hart (Democratic)
Def. 1992: Al Gore | Dick Gephardt


42. Bill Clinton | Walter Mondale (Democratic): 1997-2005
Def. 1996: Dick Lugar | Newt Gingrich (Republican)
Def. 2000: John McCain | Elizabeth Dole (Republican)


43. George W. Bush | Tommy Thompson (Republican): 2005-2009
Def. 2004: John Kerry | Evan Bayh (Democratic)

44. John Edwards | Gary Locke (Democratic): 2009-2013
Def. 2008: George W. Bush | Tommy Thompson (Republican)

45. George W. Bush | John Huntsman (Republican): 2013-2017
Def. 2012: Gary Locke | Hillary Clinton (Democratic)

46. Barack Obama | Sherrod Brown (Democratic): 2017-2025
Def. 2016: John Huntsman | Ted Cruz (Republican)
Def. 2020: Rand Paul | Susan Collins (Republican)

 
hey guyz here is my list make fun of poorly made lists lmao!!1111

1981: ronald reagan (republican) [1]
1981-1985: george h. w. bush (republican) [2]
1985-1993: bob dole (republican) [3]
1993-2001: hillary clinton (democratic) [4]
2001-2005: al gore (democratic) [5]
2005-2013: george w. bush (republican) [6]
2013- : elizabeth warren (democratic) [7]

[1]=lol so overused pod reagan dying SNORT
[2]=lol who else not
[3]=he doesn't run because of iran contra ha ha man these dummies don't understand iran contra wasn't a thing before 1985
[4]=reverse in the words of dummies
[5]=haha get it because people that are unoriginal use this also unoriginal pod lmao
[6]=i was beaten as a child
[7]=haha don't these newbies understand that warren was sworn in 2013 and was no one before 2013 lmao
 
hey guyz here is my list make fun of poorly made lists lmao!!1111

1981: ronald reagan (republican) [1]
1981-1985: george h. w. bush (republican) [2]
1985-1993: bob dole (republican) [3]
1993-2001: hillary clinton (democratic) [4]
2001-2005: al gore (democratic) [5]
2005-2013: george w. bush (republican) [6]
2013- : elizabeth warren (democratic) [7]

[1]=lol so overused pod reagan dying SNORT
[2]=lol who else not
[3]=he doesn't run because of iran contra ha ha man these dummies don't understand iran contra wasn't a thing before 1985
[4]=reverse in the words of dummies
[5]=haha get it because people that are unoriginal use this also unoriginal pod lmao
[6]=i was beaten as a child
[7]=haha don't these newbies understand that warren was sworn in 2013 and was no one before 2013 lmao

Not unoriginal - McCain 2004 is much more unoriginal. ;)
 
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