List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Asami, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. Jamee999 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    President of the United States

    1993 - 2001: William J. Clinton (Democratic) / Albert A. Gore, Jr.
    1992: def. James E. Carter (Progressive) / Howard B. Dean III, George H. W. Bush (Republican) / J. Danforth Quayle
    1996: def. Antonin G. Scalia (Republican) / Robert J. Dole


    Clinton moved from the Governor's Mansion to the White House, enthusiastic to reform the federal government. However, his administration was overshadowed by foreign policy crises, as war broke out in the Old World. He scrapped his way to re-election, just holding off the fierce campaign of Justice Scalia. His second term was dominated by war and his health. The United States intervened overseas, eventually seeing victory in the nation's most significant military encounter in a generation. However, the President's health was failing, and his wife became de facto Acting President for much of his second term, although this fact was hidden from the public.

    2001 - 2003: John R. Kasich, Jr. (Republican) † / William F. Weld
    2000: def. Richard F. Celeste (Democratic) / Barack H. Obama


    A dark horse candidate from Ohio, Kasich defeated Dick Celeste, as he campaigned to reverse many of Clinton's war-time special measures. Though the strong economy led Kasich to quick popularity, the nation was shocked by his unexpected death in the third year of his presidency. It would be learned later that there were uncovered scandals in his administration, which would have dramatically decreased his standing if they had been known about during his lifetime.

    2003 - 2009: William F. Weld (Republican) / Mitchell E. Daniels, Jr.
    2004: def. William B. Richardson III (Democratic) / Hubert H. "Skip" Humphrey III, Russell D. Feingold (Progressive) / Dennis J. Kucinich


    A taciturn Brahmin who had established a reputation for seriousness and conservatism as Governor of Massachusetts, Weld oversaw a time of economic prosperity, and easily won re-election, as a left-wing third-party candidate split the opposition. He was admired by advocates of limited government, and also made strides for racial equality that were not always fully supported by his party. He surprisingly elected not to run for a second full term in office.

    2009 - 2013: Willard M. Romney (Republican) / Ben Nighthorse Campbell
    2008: def. Joseph R. Biden (Democratic) / Thomas A. Daschle


    Weld was succeeded by Mitt Romney, a successful businessman and Commerce Secretary, who had been one of the most visible members of the Weld cabinet. However, the economy entered a sharp recession in the first year of the Romney administration, and though efforts were launched to attempted to reverse the economic contraction, they were mostly unsuccessful, and may even have made the situation worse. Romney was sharply blamed for the hardships seen across the country, and he was not able to win re-election, as the decade of Republican domination came to an end.
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  2. DoritosandmtnDew Member

    Dec 29, 2018
    Coolidge runs again

    30. Calvin Coolidge/VACANT (R)
    30. Calvin Coolidge/Charles G. Dawes (R)
    30. Calvin Coolidge/Herbert Hoover (R)

    31. John Nance Garner/Huey Long (D)

    32. Wendell Wilkie/Thomas E. Dewey (R)
    33. Thomas E. Dewey/VACANT (R)
    33. Thomas E. Dewey/Robert A. Taft (R)

    34. Alben W. Barkley/Estes Kafauver (D)

    35. Dwight D. Eisenhower/Nelson Rockefeller (R)
    36. Nelson Rockefeller/Richard Nixon (R)

    37. John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D)

    38. Nile Kinnick/Ronald Reagan (R)
    39. Robert F. Kennedy/George Smathers (D)

    40. George H.W. Bush/Bob Dole (R)

    41. Ted Kennedy/Joe Biden (D)

    42. Ross Perot/Colin Powell (RF)

    43. Donald Trump/Gary Johnson (L)

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  3. glenn67 Well-Known Member

    Apr 4, 2007
    Clinton as Woodrow Wilson analogue.
  4. jack_donaghy_is_the_shado Well-Known Member

    Mar 24, 2010
    I like where I think this is heading.
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  5. CapitalistHippie Peace, love, and free markets.

    Apr 11, 2018
    Three-term President Bernie Sanders?
  6. GermanDjinn did you commit crimes?? CALL THIS NUMBER!

    Nov 26, 2017
    If it's going full clinton as wilson analogue then Obama is gonna be elected 4 times as Vovinivh is the Cox analogue
  7. CapitalistHippie Peace, love, and free markets.

    Apr 11, 2018
    Ah I see that makes sense. Forgot FDR was VP in 1920

    Obama's a little young to be a VP nominee in 2000 IMO.
  8. Fleetlord #AtvarDidNothingWrong Monthly Donor

    Jun 7, 2005
    In a haze of green and gold
    Why did Voinovich switch parties?
  9. Jamee999 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    Because I'm a dumb-dumb who writes things down wrong.
  10. Jamee999 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    Obama is actually older in this timeline than FDR was in OTL, and FDR was plucked from obscurity as Assistant Secretary of the Navy to be the VP pick. I felt OK going with it.
  11. Newne76 Active Member

    Jun 25, 2018
    Yet Another Completely Nonsensical List of Alternate U.S Presidents
    26. John B. Foraker/John D. Long(Republican) (March 4th,1901-March 4th,1909)
    1900 Def: Julian S. Caw/John W. Smith (Democratic)
    1904 Def: Richard Olney/Nelson A. Miles (Democratic)

    27. Joseph Blackburn/Nelson A. Miles (Democratic) (March 4th,1909-March 4th,1913)
    1908 Def: William R. Hearst/John A. Johnson (Republican)
    28. John Sharp Williams/George Gray (Democratic) (March 4th,1913-March 4th,1921)
    1912 Def: Albert B. Cummings/Charles E. Merriam Jr. (Republican)
    1916 Def: Nicholas Butler/Elihu Root (Republican)

    29. Leonard Wood/Asle Jorgenson Gronna (Republican) (March 4th,1921-March 4th,1929)
    1920 Def: Carter Glass/Edward I. Edwards (Democratic)
    1924 Def: Charles W. Bryan/Newton D. Baker (Democratic)

    30. Thomas J. Walsh/Josephus Daniels (Democratic) (March 4th,1929-March 4th,1933)
    1928 Def: George W. Norris/Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
    31. John Pershing/Fredrick Funston (Republican) (March 4th,1933-March 4th,1941)
    1932 Def: Hamilton Fish III/James S. McGroathy (Democratic)
    1936 Def: Cordell Hull/Jesse H. Jones (Democratic)

    32. Cordell Hull/Millard Tydings (Democratic) (March 4th,1941-January 20th 1949)
    1940 Def: Herbert Hoover/Wendell Wilkie (Republican)
    1944 Def: Robert A. Taft/ Arthur H. Vandenberg (Republican)

    33. William "Bull" Halsey/George Patton (Republican) (January 20th,1949-January 20th,1957)
    1948 Def: James Roosevelt/Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
    1952 Def: Happy Chandler/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
    34. Barry Goldwater/Margret Chase Smith (Republican) (January 20th,1957-January 20th,1973)
    1956 Def: Herschel Loveless/Robert B. Meyner (Democratic)
    1960 Def: Henrey M. Jackson/George Smathers (Democratic)
    1964 Def: Richard J. Daley/Daniel K. Moore (Democratic)
    1968 Def: Claude Pepper/Fred R. Harris (Democratic)

    35. Jimmy Carter/George Wallace (Democratic) (January 20th,1973-January 20th,1981)
    1972 Def: Richard Nixon/Richard Lugar (Republican)
    1976 Def: Gordon B. Hinckley/Robert McNamara (Republican)

    36. Alexander M. Haig/Gerald Ford (Republican) (January 20th,1981-August 13th,1984)*
    1980 Def: Storm Thurmond/Jesse Jackson (Democratic)
    37. Gerald Ford/Vacant (Republican) (August 13th,1984-January 20th,1985)
    Gerald Ford/John Connally (Republican) (January 20th,1985-January 20th,1989)

    1984 Def: Lloyd Bentson/Dale Bumpers (Democratic)
    38. Pete Du Pont/Patrick Buchanan (Republican) (January 20th,1989-January 20th,1997)
    1988 Def: Mo Udall/Leslie Aspen Jr. (Democratic)
    1992 Def: John B. Anderson/ Patrick J. Luecy (Independent)
    Tom Daschle/Hugh Leo Carly (Democratic)

    39. Tim Allen/Robin Williams (Laughter) (January 20th,1997-January 20th,2001)
    1996 Def: Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey (Democratic)
    Harold Stassen/Storm Thurmond (Republican)

    40. Fred Phelps/David Koresh (Democratic) (January 20th,2001-September 11th,2001)*
    2000 Def: Barry Goldwater Jr./Orrin Hatch (Republican)
    41. David Koresh/Vacant (Democratic) (September 11th,2001-January 20th,2005)
    42. Alan Keyes/Sarah Palin (Republican) (January 20th,2005-January 20th,2009)
    2004 Def: John Kerry/Al Gore (Democratic)
    43. Howard Dean/Mary Landrieu (Democratic) (January 20th,2009-January 20th,2013)
    2008 Def: John Ensign/Lindsay Graham (Republican)
    44. Laura Lingle/Ron Paul (Republican) (January 20th,2013-January 20th,2017)
    2012 Def:Jeff Bingaman/John Kerry (Democratic)
    45. Sarah Palin/Dick Cheney (Republican) (January 20th,2017-January 20th,2025)
    2016 Def: Patrick Buchanan/Rudy Giuliani (Radical-Republican)
    2020 Def: Tom Kenney/Clancy Brown (Who Lives in a Pineapple Under the Sea)

    *= Assassinated
  12. SandroPertini98 Well-Known Member

    Sep 8, 2018
    Media Presidents:
    32 William Penn Adair Rogers 1933-1949 D Oklahoma
    33 Walter Winchell 1949-1953 D New York

    34 Walter Elias Disney 1953-1961 R California
    35 Henry Robinson Luce 1961-1965 R Connecticut

    36 Walter Leland Cronkite Jr 1965-1969 D Missouri
    37 Marion Michael Morrison 1969-1973 R Texas
    37 Harland David Sanders 1973-1977 D Kentucky
    38 Ronald Wilson Reagan 1977-1981 R California
    39 Gregory Peck 1981-1989 D California
    40 Bess Myerson 1989-1993 D New York

    41 Henry Ross Perot 1993-2001 R Texas
    42 Henry Warren Beatty 2001-2009 D
    43 Arnold Schwarzenegger 2009-2013 R Califirnia (Retired due Sex Scandal)
    44 Clint Eastwood 2013-2017 R California (Retired due Age)
    45 Donald John Trump 2017-2021 R New York

    46 Oprah Winfrey 2021-... D Mississippi
  13. glenn67 Well-Known Member

    Apr 4, 2007
    Safe to assume that Obama ITTL served in the Clinton cabinet.
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  14. Amadeus Well-Known Member

    Mar 19, 2017
    My Personal Take on "What if JFK Had Lived?"

    35. John F. Kennedy (1961-1969), D-MA
    Def: Richard M. Nixon (1960), Barry Goldwater (1964)
    36. Terry Sanford (1969-1973), D-NC
    Def: George Romney (1968)
    37. Nelson Rockefeller (1973-1978), R-NY*
    Def: Terry Sanford (1972), Henry Jackson (1976)
    38. Ronald Reagan (1978-1981), R-CA
    39. Robert F. Kennedy (1981-1989), D-NY

    Def: Ronald Reagan (1980), George Bush (1984)
    40. Sam Nunn (1989-1993), D-GA
    Def: Bob Dole (1988)
    41. John Heinz (1993-2001), R-PA
    Def: Sam Nunn (1992), Bill Bradley (1996)
    42. Lamar Alexander (2001-2005), R-TN
    Def: John Kerry (2000)
    43. John Edwards (2005-2006), D-NC*
    Def: Lamar Alexander (2004)
    44. Howard Dean (2006-2009), D-VT
    45. J.C. Watts (2009-2017), R-OK
    Def: Howard Dean (2008), Russ Feingold (2012)
    *Died of a heart attack
    *Resigned over numerous scandals after the House filed articles of impeachment.
  15. Catalunya Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2015
    in the future
    Political Career of Barack Hussein Obama

    1997 - 2006: Member of the Illinois Senate for the 13th district, Democrat
    1996: David Whitehead (Harold Washington Party), Rosette C. Peyton (Republican Party)
    1998: Yesse Yehudah (Republican Party)
    2002: unopposed
    2004 - 2004: Democratic Party nominee for the United States Senate from Illinois
    defeated by: Peter Fitzgerald (Republican Party)
    2007 - 2009: Member of the United States House or Representatives from the Illinois 6th district, Democrat
    2006: Peter Roskam (Republican Party)
    2008: Jim Oberweis (Republican Party)
    2009 - 2011: Member of the United States Senate from Illinois, Democrat
    nominated by: Rod Blagojevich (Democrat)
    2011 - 2013: Activist, Democrat
    2013 - 2017: United States Ambassador to Indonesia, Democrat
    nominated by: Brian Schweitzer (Democrat)
    2017 - 2021: United States Ambassador to the East African Federation, Democrat
    nominated by: Brian Schweitzer (Democrat)
    2021 - 2021: Activist, Democrat
    2021 - 2022: Campaign Manager of the Kwame Raoul Gubernatorial Campaign, Democrat
    2022: Kwame Raoul / Jesús G "Chuy" Garcia (Democrat), Adam Kinzinger / Dan Duffy (Republican)
    2022 - 2024: Campaign Manager of the Kwame Raoul 2024 Presidential Campaign, Democrat
    2024: Kwame Raoul / Mary Landrieu (Democrat), Katrina Pierson / Ben Quayle (Republican), Jason Gibbs / Joe Heck (Moderate)
    2024 - 2025: Executive Chair of the Kwame Raoul White House Transition Team, Democrat
    2025 - 2026: White House Chief of Staff to President Kwame Raoul, Democrat
    2026 - 2047: Chief Justice of the United States, Democrat
    nominated by: Kwame Raoul (Democrat) 63-34
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  16. dw93 Can't Afford to be a Donor

    May 8, 2015

    Ranking "The Losers" from Best to Worst:

    1. Walter Mondale: 1981-1989
    2. Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1974
    3. John Kerry: 2001-2009
    4. Bob Dole: 1993-2001
    5. Michael Dukakis: 1989-1993
    6. Edmund Muskie: 1974-1977
    7. John McCain: 2009-2017
    8. Gerald Ford: 1977-1981
    9. Mitt Romney: 2017-2021

    Note: George McGovern and Al Gore not included due to only being in office for 2 months or less. Incumbent President Hillary Rodham not included as we are only 1 week into her Presidency.
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  17. Mumby im that bob

    Feb 7, 2010
    returning to my roots with a silly kaiserreich list

    Presidents of the United States of America (2nd Republic)

    1929-1936: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
    1928 (with Charles Curtis) def. Al Smith (Democratic), Norman Thomas (Socialist)
    1932 (with Cordell Hull) def. John N. Garner (Democratic), Jack Reed (Socialist)

    1936-1937: Douglas MacArthur (Nonpartisan leading 'National Unity' Military Junta, backed by 'National' Republicans and 'National' Democrats)
    1937-1938: George Van Horn Moseley (Nonpartisan leading 'National Unity' Military Junta, backed by All-American Union)

    Chairmen of the Combined Syndicates of America

    1938-1939: Jack Reed (Socialist leading Provisional Government, backed by International Workers of the World)
    1939-1940: William Z. Foster (Socialist - Totalist Faction)
    1939 (with James W. Ford) def. Benjamin Gitlow (Socialist - Federalist Faction), Emma Goldman (Nonpartisan - Anarchist)

    Chairmen of the United Socialist States of America

    1940-1946: William Z. Foster (Communist)

    Presidents of the United States of America (3rd Republic)

    1946-1949: Henry Channon (Nonpartisan leading Entente Military Government)
    1949-1953: James Roosevelt (National)
    1948 (with Richard Nixon) def. Benjamin Gitlow (American Labor), Earl Long (All-American)
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  18. wolfhound817 Priest of Hank

    Jan 25, 2018
    Upstate New York
    Who Else But W.B. Mason!
    1881-1889: Samuel Tilden (D-NY)/Winfield Hancock (D-PA)
    1889-1897: James Blaine (R-ME)/Charles Guiteau (R-NY)
    1897-1901: William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)
    1901-1905: Grover Cleveland (D-NJ)/Adlai Stevenson (D-IL)
    1905-1911*: W.B. Mason (R-MA)/Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)
    1911-1913: Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Vacant
    1913-1921: Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/William Howard Taft (R-OH)
    1921-1929: James Cox (R-OH)/W.G. McAdoo (D-CA)
    1929-1937: John Nance Gardner (D-TX)/Al Smith (D-NY)
    1937-1949: Quentin Roosevelt (R-NY)/Herbert Hoover (R-CA)
    1949**: Herbert Hoover (R-CA)/Harold Stassen (R-MN)
    1949-1953: Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Vacant
    1953-1957: Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)/Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
    1957-1961: Harold Stassen (P-MN)/Henry Wallace (P-IA)
    1961-1969: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
    1969-1971***: John Kennedy (P-MA)/Pierre Trudeau (P-QU)
    1971-1973: Pierre Trudeau (P-QU)/Vacant
    1973-1985: Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)
    1985-1989: Robert Dole (R-WY)/Nancy Reagan (R-CA)
    1989-1997: William Clinton (D-AR)/Fidel Castro (P-CU)
    1997-2000****: Herbert Hoover III (P-CA)/Harold Stassen (P-MN)
    2000-2001: Herbert Hoover III (P-CA)/Vacant
    2001-2005: Herbert Hoover III (P-CA)/Raul Castro (P-CU)
    2005-2007*****: John Edwards (D-NC)/Hillary Rodham (D-NY)
    2007-2009: Hillary Rodham (D-NY)/Vacant
    2009-2017: Barack Obama (P-IL)/Jill Stein (P-MA)
    2017-2025: Marco Rubio (R-CU)/Elizabeth Cheney-Schwarzenegger (R-CA)
    2025-2031: Elizabeth Cheney Schwarzenegger (R-CA)/Margaret Hoover (R-CO)
    2031-Present: Justin Trudeau (P-QU)/Tulsi Gabbard (P-WA)

    *Died of a Heart Attack
    **Assassinated by Cuban Nationalists
    ***Resigned after many extramarital affairs and impeachment procedures beginning against him.
    ****Stassen died of a heart attack
    *****Impeached for Embezzling funds from the US government.
  19. wolfhound817 Priest of Hank

    Jan 25, 2018
    Upstate New York
    POD btw is WB Mason's parents move to the US while his mother was pregnant and Tilden runs in 1880
  20. Jamee999 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2008
    If you first do Clinton-as-Wilson ...

    President of the United States

    1913 - 1921: T. Woodrow Wilson (Democratic) / Thomas R. Marshall
    1912: def. William H. Taft (Republican) / James S. Sherman, Andrew W. Mellon (Independent) / George Dewey
    1916: def. Charles Curtis (Republican) / George W. Fairchild, Andrew W. Mellon (Reform) / Henry C. Adams


    A popular Governor who unseated a Republican President, Wilson oversaw a period of American economic growth and prosperity, although his administration was often overshadowed by other matters. His first term was dominated by an unsuccessful attempt to pass federal healthcare legislation, though he did manage to improve relations and trade with other North American nations. After winning re-election, he was impeached in his second term, as he was accused of lying to Congress about an affair with an aide. His popularity improved following Senate acquittal, and he was also able to achieve several minor foreign policy successes before leaving office.

    1921 - 1929: James R. Garfield (Republican) / Russell A. Alger
    1920: def. Thomas R. Marshall (Democratic) / Carter Glass
    1924: def. Peter G. Gerry (Democratic) / Kenneth D. McKellar


    The son of a former President, Garfield took office following a controversial and impossibly close election, as he narrowly defeated Vice President Thomas Marshall. Garfield and the Republican Congress cut taxes, and passed some federal policy reforms. However, a series of terrorist attacks during his first term rapidly overtook domestic issues, and led to America being drawn into a series of foreign entanglements. Though he was re-elected, his second term saw problem after problem, as he was criticized for poor federal response to a devastating hurricane, and then saw the economy severely contract. While his administration passed legislation in an attempt to rectify the situation, Garfield was widely blamed for the recession, and was extremely unpopular as he left office.

    1929 - 1937: Alfred E. Smith (Democratic) / Claude A. Swanson
    1928: def. Wesley L. Jones (Republican) / Theodore Christianson
    1932: def. Herbert C. Hoover (Republican) / Carl G. Bachmann


    Elected to much fanfare as the nation's first Roman Catholic President, Smith entered the White House in the midst of the worst recession in a generation. His administration attempted to tackle the financial crisis, and also passed a law expanding federal provision of healthcare. While he had risen to power in part by criticizing the foreign policy of the Garfield administration, many of his progressive supporters felt that he did not do enough to rollback its excesses. While Smith left office as an unusually popular president, his approval rating did not transfer to his party. The Democrats lost the House in 1930, the Senate in 1934, and then would see the White House fall two years later.

    1937 - 1941?: Henry Ford (Republican) / Alfred M. Landon
    1936: def. Edith Wilson (Democratic) / David I. Walsh


    In arguably the most shocking rise to the White House ever, Henry Ford rose from being a rich businessman, making incendiary comments from the political sidelines, to the Presidency over a whirlwind two year period. Ford achieved popularity as a populist candidate, viciously attacking President Smith, and holding wild rallies to adoring crowds. Though he was criticized as racist, and was widely denounced for bigoted remarks regarding Smith's Catholicism, a narrow electoral college victory took Ford to Washington, DC...
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