Do you mean Grover Cleveland? One of his terms was actually a real term of his. 1885-1889
List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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Do you mean Grover Cleveland? One of his terms was actually a real term of his. 1885-1889
BlackentheBorg - Pat Brown in 1960
BlackentheBorg
Banned
Not to proud of this one.
1961 - 1965: Pat Brown†/Lyndon B. Johnson
Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.
1965 - 1969: Nelson Rockefeller/Claude R. Kirk, Jr.
Lyndon B. Johnson/George Wallace
1969 - 1973: Hubert Humphrey†/Basil W. Brown
Nelson Rockefeller/Claude R. Kirk, Jr.
1973 - 1977: Harold Brown/John M. Ashbrook
Basil W. Brown/Sargent Shiver
1977 - 1981: Jerry Brown/Birch Bayah
Harold Brown/John M. Ashbrook
1981 - 1989: John W. Brown/George H.W. Bush
Jerry Brown/Birch Bayah
Ted Kennedy/Walter Mondale
1989 - 1993: John Y. Brown Jr./Gary Hart
J. E. "Buster" Brown/Dan Quayle
1993 - 1997: Hank Brown/Patrick Buchanan
Gary Hart/Larry Argan
1997 - 2005: Ron Brown/Robert P. Casey
Hank Brown/Patrick Buchanan
Patrick Buchanan/John Kasich
2005 - 2009: Henry Brown Jr.†/John McCain
Robert P. Casey/Al Gore
2009 - 2013: Lee P. Brown/Paul Wellstone
John McCain/Mitt Romney
Ron Paul/Melissa Brown
2013 - 2017: Scott Brown/Raleigh Brown†
Paul Wellstone/John Edwards
2017 - : Sherrod Brown/Kate Brown
Scott Brown/Ted Cruz
1961 - 1965: Pat Brown†/Lyndon B. Johnson
Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr.
1965 - 1969: Nelson Rockefeller/Claude R. Kirk, Jr.
Lyndon B. Johnson/George Wallace
1969 - 1973: Hubert Humphrey†/Basil W. Brown
Nelson Rockefeller/Claude R. Kirk, Jr.
1973 - 1977: Harold Brown/John M. Ashbrook
Basil W. Brown/Sargent Shiver
1977 - 1981: Jerry Brown/Birch Bayah
Harold Brown/John M. Ashbrook
1981 - 1989: John W. Brown/George H.W. Bush
Jerry Brown/Birch Bayah
Ted Kennedy/Walter Mondale
1989 - 1993: John Y. Brown Jr./Gary Hart
J. E. "Buster" Brown/Dan Quayle
1993 - 1997: Hank Brown/Patrick Buchanan
Gary Hart/Larry Argan
1997 - 2005: Ron Brown/Robert P. Casey
Hank Brown/Patrick Buchanan
Patrick Buchanan/John Kasich
2005 - 2009: Henry Brown Jr.†/John McCain
Robert P. Casey/Al Gore
2009 - 2013: Lee P. Brown/Paul Wellstone
John McCain/Mitt Romney
Ron Paul/Melissa Brown
2013 - 2017: Scott Brown/Raleigh Brown†
Paul Wellstone/John Edwards
2017 - : Sherrod Brown/Kate Brown
Scott Brown/Ted Cruz
Lilac - Made Glorious
A foreword - with great reluctance I've decided not to carry on my timeline Made Glorious - I don't think I'm well-versed enough in the policy to do justice to what a 2nd Home ministry (or a Jay ministry) would really look like - but readers do at least deserve a summary of the rough course of events I had planned out.
Made Glorious
1964-1965: Harold Wilson (Labour)[1]
1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1965-1967: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative)[2]
1965: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1967-1967: Duncan Sandys (Conservative)[3]
1967-1967: Peter Thomas (Conservative)[4]
1967-1972: Douglas Jay (Labour)[5]
1967: Peter Thomas (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)[6]
1971: Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), Keith Joseph (Conservative)[7]
1972-1976: Niall MacDermot (Labour)
1976-1980: John Jackson Mackay (Liberal)[8]
1976: Niall MacDermot (Labour), William Whitelaw (Conservative)
1980-: John Smith (Labour)
1980: John Jackson Mackay (Liberal), Nicholas Scott (Conservative)
[1] Wilson's government only lasts for a few months - after losing by-elections in Leyton and Bosworth in quick succession (the latter to a surging Liberal Party) - Wilson's forced to go to the country and in an election upset, Douglas-Home (very narrowly) gets into office with a majority of 8. Wilson - only the third Labour Prime Minister ever, returns to opposition with a dispirited party. Jo Grimond's reaction is more mixed - the spike in the Liberal vote gave them 19 more seats - but lost them the balance of power.
[2] Alec Douglas-Home had never expected to return to 10 Downing Street - his leadership of the Conservative Party had pretty clearly been winding down before the unexpected election victory, and Maudling and Heath especially can barely restrain their impatience with the old man as he totters through negotiations with Rhodesia. Luckily for Home, the opposition is in no condition to fight back. The Liberals are going through a boisterous leadership contest to succeed Grimond - Jeremy Thorpe narrowly emerges over several disappointed tribunes of the right of the party - and Labour itself shockingly deposes Harold Wilson that autumn, spurred on by his disastrous time in government and a humiliating Liberal gain at Falmouth and Camborne just weeks before. Home's government drags on, on through assasinations, coups, economics ups and downs - and in a decade of widespread social change, the Unionist former fourteenth Earl finds himself little more than a relic. By 1967 Home's majority is nearly gone - and then so is he.
[3] Home's Foreign Secretary grabs the premiership in the Magic Circle's last hurrah - and barely lasts two months, undone by sex-scandal allegations, his own medieval ideas on Africa - and a dithering Ted Heath's ultimate decision to quit the Cabinet, followed by Macleod and Maudling. Sandys at least has the grace to know when to go.
[4] Peter Thomas was at least vaguely a compromise pick - one of the few modernizers to stay on in the chaotic Sandys' Cabinet, not associated with the erratic foreign policy - and Epworth was certainly a far cry from Eton. But the charming Welshman was at the top of a profoundly divided party, had risen too far too fast, and with the exception of the Wilson interlude, the Conservatives had been in power for 16 years. People were simply tired of them - and although Thomas tried to bluff it out to the end of the year on a majority of two - the resulting election was a bloodbath.
[5] The winner of course was Labour's thoroughly unexpected new leader - Douglas Jay. In 65 Callaghan had backed down at the last minute - unwilling to risk a challenge against Wilson. Gordon-Walker had been a contender, once, - but losing Smethwick and then Leyton had gone a long way in tarnishing his image. That left an unlikely challenger - the former President of the Board of Trade, a long-time Gaitskellite, and one of the few men who disliked Wilson enough to embark on a futile-looking mission. But then Falmouth and Camborne dropped the party's confidence in Wilson to a new low and brought back all those nasty old memories of Wilson's would-be negotiations with Mr. Grimond - and Jay scraped by with a hair.
And two years later, the clever, prickly man known for 'Whitehall knows best' - still won a majority of 211. Jay was moderate and effective - and the Conservatives were tired, behind the times, and jumping from Home to Sandys to Thomas, politically incoherent.
Finally Labour was not just in office but in power - Jay, MacDermot, and Jenkins reformed policy in almost every area - and aside from sticky relations with Europe and a neutral economy, Douglas Jay had a lot to be smug about - even more so when he won an almost as large majority in 1971. But a deteriorating marriage and pressure for a younger leader led him to step down the next year, in favor of his wickedly smart Chancellor.
[6] Jeremy Thorpe positioned himself as the 'true center' and cut a better figure than bureaucratic Jay or unsteady Thomas - and it paid off in the voting booth when little over a quarter of the electorate voted Liberal - putting the party second in overall votes for the first time since 1910. Filtered through FPTP that was still a solid 51 seats - many of them cored out of Conservative heartland.
[7] Peter Thomas lost his own seat of Conwy by a large margin in 1967, Heath was wiped out as well - and a reluctant Reggie Maudling took the reins of the Conservative Party, and almost immediately did the necessary thing - instituted a democratic process to select the leader. The days of Macmillan, Home, and Sandys were over, from now on the membership would choose - and they turned around and chose Iain Macleod for leader, by a wide margin. Keith Joseph himself handily won the newly created position of deputy leader. Macleod championed the party at every turn - generally got the better of the government - and worked himself too hard. He passed away unexpectedly in 1970 - and Joseph failed miserably to fill his shoes in the half a year he had. Come 1971, and the Conservatives sank and the Liberals gained, again - and this time the seats fell in swathes. A gleeful Thorpe was the Official Opposition - and 41 Conservatives were left.
[8] What's left to relate? Thorpe had defeated the Conservatives in their old strongholds, butted heads against Labour - and now had a parliamentary party and Shadow Cabinet considerably to the right of him - Shadow Foreign Secretary Noel Kemp wielded the knife - and John MacKay inherited the throne. And as MacDermot presided over union troubles and a less than booming economy - the wildly popular MP from Argyll savaged the government and suggested that, just maybe - economic liberalism was the alternative. Soft Conservative support flocked to the man who looked like he could finally beat Labour and MacKay did - all of it. Well - some of it. But the Liberals were going to stick around.
Made Glorious
1964-1965: Harold Wilson (Labour)[1]
1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1965-1967: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative)[2]
1965: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1967-1967: Duncan Sandys (Conservative)[3]
1967-1967: Peter Thomas (Conservative)[4]
1967-1972: Douglas Jay (Labour)[5]
1967: Peter Thomas (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)[6]
1971: Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), Keith Joseph (Conservative)[7]
1972-1976: Niall MacDermot (Labour)
1976-1980: John Jackson Mackay (Liberal)[8]
1976: Niall MacDermot (Labour), William Whitelaw (Conservative)
1980-: John Smith (Labour)
1980: John Jackson Mackay (Liberal), Nicholas Scott (Conservative)
[1] Wilson's government only lasts for a few months - after losing by-elections in Leyton and Bosworth in quick succession (the latter to a surging Liberal Party) - Wilson's forced to go to the country and in an election upset, Douglas-Home (very narrowly) gets into office with a majority of 8. Wilson - only the third Labour Prime Minister ever, returns to opposition with a dispirited party. Jo Grimond's reaction is more mixed - the spike in the Liberal vote gave them 19 more seats - but lost them the balance of power.
[2] Alec Douglas-Home had never expected to return to 10 Downing Street - his leadership of the Conservative Party had pretty clearly been winding down before the unexpected election victory, and Maudling and Heath especially can barely restrain their impatience with the old man as he totters through negotiations with Rhodesia. Luckily for Home, the opposition is in no condition to fight back. The Liberals are going through a boisterous leadership contest to succeed Grimond - Jeremy Thorpe narrowly emerges over several disappointed tribunes of the right of the party - and Labour itself shockingly deposes Harold Wilson that autumn, spurred on by his disastrous time in government and a humiliating Liberal gain at Falmouth and Camborne just weeks before. Home's government drags on, on through assasinations, coups, economics ups and downs - and in a decade of widespread social change, the Unionist former fourteenth Earl finds himself little more than a relic. By 1967 Home's majority is nearly gone - and then so is he.
[3] Home's Foreign Secretary grabs the premiership in the Magic Circle's last hurrah - and barely lasts two months, undone by sex-scandal allegations, his own medieval ideas on Africa - and a dithering Ted Heath's ultimate decision to quit the Cabinet, followed by Macleod and Maudling. Sandys at least has the grace to know when to go.
[4] Peter Thomas was at least vaguely a compromise pick - one of the few modernizers to stay on in the chaotic Sandys' Cabinet, not associated with the erratic foreign policy - and Epworth was certainly a far cry from Eton. But the charming Welshman was at the top of a profoundly divided party, had risen too far too fast, and with the exception of the Wilson interlude, the Conservatives had been in power for 16 years. People were simply tired of them - and although Thomas tried to bluff it out to the end of the year on a majority of two - the resulting election was a bloodbath.
[5] The winner of course was Labour's thoroughly unexpected new leader - Douglas Jay. In 65 Callaghan had backed down at the last minute - unwilling to risk a challenge against Wilson. Gordon-Walker had been a contender, once, - but losing Smethwick and then Leyton had gone a long way in tarnishing his image. That left an unlikely challenger - the former President of the Board of Trade, a long-time Gaitskellite, and one of the few men who disliked Wilson enough to embark on a futile-looking mission. But then Falmouth and Camborne dropped the party's confidence in Wilson to a new low and brought back all those nasty old memories of Wilson's would-be negotiations with Mr. Grimond - and Jay scraped by with a hair.
And two years later, the clever, prickly man known for 'Whitehall knows best' - still won a majority of 211. Jay was moderate and effective - and the Conservatives were tired, behind the times, and jumping from Home to Sandys to Thomas, politically incoherent.
Finally Labour was not just in office but in power - Jay, MacDermot, and Jenkins reformed policy in almost every area - and aside from sticky relations with Europe and a neutral economy, Douglas Jay had a lot to be smug about - even more so when he won an almost as large majority in 1971. But a deteriorating marriage and pressure for a younger leader led him to step down the next year, in favor of his wickedly smart Chancellor.
[6] Jeremy Thorpe positioned himself as the 'true center' and cut a better figure than bureaucratic Jay or unsteady Thomas - and it paid off in the voting booth when little over a quarter of the electorate voted Liberal - putting the party second in overall votes for the first time since 1910. Filtered through FPTP that was still a solid 51 seats - many of them cored out of Conservative heartland.
[7] Peter Thomas lost his own seat of Conwy by a large margin in 1967, Heath was wiped out as well - and a reluctant Reggie Maudling took the reins of the Conservative Party, and almost immediately did the necessary thing - instituted a democratic process to select the leader. The days of Macmillan, Home, and Sandys were over, from now on the membership would choose - and they turned around and chose Iain Macleod for leader, by a wide margin. Keith Joseph himself handily won the newly created position of deputy leader. Macleod championed the party at every turn - generally got the better of the government - and worked himself too hard. He passed away unexpectedly in 1970 - and Joseph failed miserably to fill his shoes in the half a year he had. Come 1971, and the Conservatives sank and the Liberals gained, again - and this time the seats fell in swathes. A gleeful Thorpe was the Official Opposition - and 41 Conservatives were left.
[8] What's left to relate? Thorpe had defeated the Conservatives in their old strongholds, butted heads against Labour - and now had a parliamentary party and Shadow Cabinet considerably to the right of him - Shadow Foreign Secretary Noel Kemp wielded the knife - and John MacKay inherited the throne. And as MacDermot presided over union troubles and a less than booming economy - the wildly popular MP from Argyll savaged the government and suggested that, just maybe - economic liberalism was the alternative. Soft Conservative support flocked to the man who looked like he could finally beat Labour and MacKay did - all of it. Well - some of it. But the Liberals were going to stick around.
Rosa Luxemburg
Banned
While it is hard to change those views, it can be don in that time. For example, around early 2015, I was a socially and fiscally conservative Republican, but now I'm socialist as well as very socially liberal.
I refuse to believe John Jackson Mackay isn't a single-term Congressman from Missouri who voted against the 1875 Civil Rights Act.
wolfram - Governors of Barsoom from Not To Touch The Earth
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BARSOOM is the most recently-formed U.S. state, having split from the State of Valles Grandes in 1990, in accordance with the 33rd Amendment.
Centered on the city of Barsoom for which it is named, the state's economy is largely based on information technology, hydroelectricity, and mineral refinement.
According to the Census Bureau, its population is around 2.4 million.Governors of Barsoom from Not To Touch The Earth
1990-1995: John Patrick Crecine (Federalist)
1995-2001: Jon McBride (Federalist)
2001-2003: Chris Bell (Federalist)
2003-2007: Ben DuPont (Federalist)
2007-2007: Steve Bannon (Independent)
2007-2009: Wendy Greuel (Federalist)
2009-2011: Jack Carter (Federalist - Liberal faction)
2011-2013: Gary Johnson (Liberty)
2013-2014: Will Hurd (Federalist - Conservative faction)
2014-2015: John Catsimatidis (Prosperity)
2015-: Gary Johnson (Liberty)
John Patrick Crecine, formerly Secretary of Education and before that Director of Technological Development, was tapped to serve as the first Governor of Barsoom. He presided over the development of Barsoom from a group of small outposts on, in, and around the South Rim of Valles Grandes into a bustling city, notably lobbying for the placement of the headquarters of the Martian branches of AmerElectriCorp (later broken into a number of splinter corporations under the Competition Act of 2003, three of which remain in Barsoom) and Boeing. Upon his retirement in 1994, he was replaced by former NASA pilot Jon McBride. McBride took a more hands-off approach, after losing much credibility in an unsuccessful attempt to restrict abortion which led to a public rebuke by President Glenn. Seeking a Senate seat in the 2000 election, he was replaced by Barsoom City Councilman Chris Bell. Bell, however, was as liberal as McBride had been conservative, and had none of his charisma or experience, and was quietly replaced with Ben DuPont at the 2002 convention. DuPont, a chemical-company heir and investor, took a pro-business approach - something that served well in his first term, but less well after the Panic of 2006.
Still, nobody expected Lt. Steve Bannon to take the top spot. The controversial activist's election was largely due to lingering resentment from DuPont's poor response to the economic panic, as well as massive vote-splitting. His racially-charged rhetoric was disconcerting, but his involvement in arms-dealing with Soviet paramilitaries fighting Muslim separatists was criminal. Replaced with President of the State Senate Wendy Greuel, Bannon descended the steps of the Capitol in handcuffs after only four months.
2008 was the first election where the Federalist Party of Barsoom used primaries, and where the registration restrictions were relaxed enough to allow for multiparty democracy. Jack Carter, son of the former Secretary of State (who was missing, presumed dead, in the wake of the Third World War), won by a margin of less than a percentage point. But with a newly divided State Assembly filled with freshmen, Carter was seen as ineffectual, opening the door to construction czar Gary Johnson. Johnson himself was defeated two years later after a failed attempt at legalizing cannabis. His successor, Will Hurd, was appointed to become Secretary of State midway through his term, and replacement John Catsimatidis was just not popular enough to survive re-election.
As of 2017, Barsoom seems to have politically stabilized, even as the collapse of the Federalist Party sends shockwaves through the rest of the country. The introduction of runoffs in the 2014 election has caused the system to precipitate into a two-party dichotomy between libertarians in the form of Liberty and statist Federalists.
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shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
To be frank with you, this is lazy listmaking and was a concept that was done much better a long time ago.
shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
I'm not 'roasting' you, I'm giving you some blunt criticism. If you're just going to just list OTL Presidents, without any variation, then I'm going to call the duck a duck and say it's lazy. If you want to do these for fun but not put the effort in, then you'd be better served using a test thread.
Mumby - General Secretaries of the Union of Britain
General Secretaries of the Union of Britain
1925-1927: Walter Citrine (Trade Union Congress)
1927-1936: Philip Snowden (Federationist)
1927 (Majority, endorsed by other factions of TUC) def. Kate Sharp (Anarchist), various (Provisional Government Coupon)
1936-1941: Oswald Mosley (Federationist)
1936 (Majority, endorsed by other factions of TUC) def. Alfred Murphy (Provisional Government Coupon --- Progressive)
1941-????: Arthur Horner (Federationist majority, endorsed by other factions of the Trade Union Congress)
Since Mosley came to power, the Union of Britain has joined the Syndicalist International and begun flexing it's muscles internationally. Most notably, sending aid to Icelandic workers which ensured syndicalists took power in that country. This was soon followed by an influx of British 'assistance' which extended British naval reach deep into the North Atlantic. This combined with naval manoeuvres off the coast of Ireland led to an escalation of tensions with Canada. The Entente decided that the growing confidence of the Union meant they could no longer wait for the syndicalist experiment to fail of it's own accord. The Entente declared war upon the Syndicalist International.
By 1941, Ireland was firmly under British occupation, while National France had fallen after a hard amphibious campaign to seize Algiers. The death of Tom Mann in 1941 left a vacancy for Chairman, which Mosley deigned to fill. This immediately left the post of General Secretary unfilled. Arthur Horner, the venerable man of the Congress was immediately put in place as a continuity figure. While Europe and Africa have been secured by the International, events across the Atlantic conspire to make the war more interesting yet. The Second American Civil War had finally been brought to an end, and Acting President MacArthur had not forgotten how helpful British volunteers had been to the Syndicalists. The United States has joined the Entente and begun to harangue her navies with submarine engagements. If the International is to achieve victory, they will have to crush the United States as well...
1925-1927: Walter Citrine (Trade Union Congress)
1927-1936: Philip Snowden (Federationist)
1927 (Majority, endorsed by other factions of TUC) def. Kate Sharp (Anarchist), various (Provisional Government Coupon)
1936-1941: Oswald Mosley (Federationist)
1936 (Majority, endorsed by other factions of TUC) def. Alfred Murphy (Provisional Government Coupon --- Progressive)
1941-????: Arthur Horner (Federationist majority, endorsed by other factions of the Trade Union Congress)
Since Mosley came to power, the Union of Britain has joined the Syndicalist International and begun flexing it's muscles internationally. Most notably, sending aid to Icelandic workers which ensured syndicalists took power in that country. This was soon followed by an influx of British 'assistance' which extended British naval reach deep into the North Atlantic. This combined with naval manoeuvres off the coast of Ireland led to an escalation of tensions with Canada. The Entente decided that the growing confidence of the Union meant they could no longer wait for the syndicalist experiment to fail of it's own accord. The Entente declared war upon the Syndicalist International.
By 1941, Ireland was firmly under British occupation, while National France had fallen after a hard amphibious campaign to seize Algiers. The death of Tom Mann in 1941 left a vacancy for Chairman, which Mosley deigned to fill. This immediately left the post of General Secretary unfilled. Arthur Horner, the venerable man of the Congress was immediately put in place as a continuity figure. While Europe and Africa have been secured by the International, events across the Atlantic conspire to make the war more interesting yet. The Second American Civil War had finally been brought to an end, and Acting President MacArthur had not forgotten how helpful British volunteers had been to the Syndicalists. The United States has joined the Entente and begun to harangue her navies with submarine engagements. If the International is to achieve victory, they will have to crush the United States as well...
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PoliticalNerd - ALTERworld (UK PMs but they are limited to one term each)
ALTERworld (UK PMs but they are limited to one term each)
Arthur Balfour (1900-1906)
Henry Campbell-Bannerman (1906-1910)
Hebert Henry Asquith (1910)
David Lloyd George (1910-1918)
William Adamson (1918-1922)
Andrew Bonar Law (1922-1923)
J. R. Clynes (1923-1924)
Stanley Baldwin (1924-1929)
Ramsay MacDonald (1929-1931)
Neville Chamberlain (1931-1935)
Winston Churchill (1935-1945) (War Cabinet: Feb 1940 - May 1945)
Clement Atlee (1945-1950)
Archibald Sinclair (1950-1951)
Clement Davies (1951-1955)
Harold MacMillian (1955-1959)
Hugh Gaitskell (1959-1963) (Died in Office)
Roy Jenkins (1963-1964)
Sir Alec Douglas-Home (1964-1966)
Harold Wilson (1966-1970)
Edward Heath (1970-1974)
Michael Foot (1974)
James Callaghan (1974-1979)
Denis Healy (1979-1983)
Geoffrey Howe (1983-1987)
Margaret Thatcher (1987-1992)
Neil Kinnock (1992-1997)
Tony Blair (1997-2001)
Gordon Brown (2001-2005)
David Cameron (2005-2010)
George Osborne (2010-2015)
Jeremy Corbyn (2015-2020) (Coalition with the SNP until 2017, when Labour gains a majority on its on)
Tim Farron (2020-2025)
Arthur Balfour (1900-1906)
Henry Campbell-Bannerman (1906-1910)
Hebert Henry Asquith (1910)
David Lloyd George (1910-1918)
William Adamson (1918-1922)
Andrew Bonar Law (1922-1923)
J. R. Clynes (1923-1924)
Stanley Baldwin (1924-1929)
Ramsay MacDonald (1929-1931)
Neville Chamberlain (1931-1935)
Winston Churchill (1935-1945) (War Cabinet: Feb 1940 - May 1945)
Clement Atlee (1945-1950)
Archibald Sinclair (1950-1951)
Clement Davies (1951-1955)
Harold MacMillian (1955-1959)
Hugh Gaitskell (1959-1963) (Died in Office)
Roy Jenkins (1963-1964)
Sir Alec Douglas-Home (1964-1966)
Harold Wilson (1966-1970)
Edward Heath (1970-1974)
Michael Foot (1974)
James Callaghan (1974-1979)
Denis Healy (1979-1983)
Geoffrey Howe (1983-1987)
Margaret Thatcher (1987-1992)
Neil Kinnock (1992-1997)
Tony Blair (1997-2001)
Gordon Brown (2001-2005)
David Cameron (2005-2010)
George Osborne (2010-2015)
Jeremy Corbyn (2015-2020) (Coalition with the SNP until 2017, when Labour gains a majority on its on)
Tim Farron (2020-2025)
Uhura's Mazda
Banned
CanadianTory - A Worse 9/11
Me and a friend discussed what would happen if 9/11 went a lot worse. It's a little ASB, but whatever.
Presidents of the United States:
Bill Clinton (D-Arkansas) 1993-2001
VP: Al Gore (D-Tennessee) 1993-2001
1992: George H.W. Bush (R-Texas)/Dan Quayle (R-Indiana), Ross Perot (I-Texas)/James Stockdale (I-Illinois)
1996: Bob Dole (R-Kansas)/Jack Kemp (R-New York), Ross Perot (R-Texas)/Patrick Choate (District of Columbia)
George W. Bush (R-Texas) 2001
VP: Dick Cheney (R-Wyoming) 2001
2000: Al Gore (D-Tennessee)/Joe Lieberman (D-Connecticut)
Dick Cheney (R-Wyoming) 2001
VP: None
Strom Thurmond (R-South Carolina) 2001
VP: None
Colin Powell (R-New York) 2001-2009
VP: None 2001-2002
Robert Gates (I-Texas) 2002-2009
2004: Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas)/Howard Dean (D-Vermont), Paul Wellstone (I-Minnesota)/Dennis Kucinich (I-Ohio)
Jeb Bush (R-Florida) 2009-2013
VP: Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) 2009-2013
2008: Tom Vilsack (D-Iowa)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Dennis Kucinich (I-Ohio)
Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas) 2013-
VP: Kathleen Sebelius (D-Kansas) 2013-
2012: Jeb Bush (R-Florida)/Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Chris Van Hollen (I-Maryland)
2016: Mark Sanford (R-South Carolina)/Meg Whitman (R-California), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Russ Feingold (I-Wisconsin)
Presidents of the United States:
Bill Clinton (D-Arkansas) 1993-2001
VP: Al Gore (D-Tennessee) 1993-2001
1992: George H.W. Bush (R-Texas)/Dan Quayle (R-Indiana), Ross Perot (I-Texas)/James Stockdale (I-Illinois)
1996: Bob Dole (R-Kansas)/Jack Kemp (R-New York), Ross Perot (R-Texas)/Patrick Choate (District of Columbia)
George W. Bush (R-Texas) 2001
VP: Dick Cheney (R-Wyoming) 2001
2000: Al Gore (D-Tennessee)/Joe Lieberman (D-Connecticut)
Dick Cheney (R-Wyoming) 2001
VP: None
Strom Thurmond (R-South Carolina) 2001
VP: None
Colin Powell (R-New York) 2001-2009
VP: None 2001-2002
Robert Gates (I-Texas) 2002-2009
2004: Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas)/Howard Dean (D-Vermont), Paul Wellstone (I-Minnesota)/Dennis Kucinich (I-Ohio)
Jeb Bush (R-Florida) 2009-2013
VP: Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) 2009-2013
2008: Tom Vilsack (D-Iowa)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-New Hampshire), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Dennis Kucinich (I-Ohio)
Wesley Clark (D-Arkansas) 2013-
VP: Kathleen Sebelius (D-Kansas) 2013-
2012: Jeb Bush (R-Florida)/Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Chris Van Hollen (I-Maryland)
2016: Mark Sanford (R-South Carolina)/Meg Whitman (R-California), Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)/Russ Feingold (I-Wisconsin)
Aolbain - Medicarey, Nicklesonomics and a man from Texas
Does Thurmond resign or die?
Medicarey, Nicklesonomics and a man from Texas
Essentially a repost of this list, but with more than just names and dates this time around
1977-1981: Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Bob Dole (R-KS)
1976: Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)
In one of all possible worlds, a haggard Jerry Ford would in a debate against his folksy challenger deny that there was such a thing as Soviet dominance in Eastern Europe. It would contribute to his defeat in the upcoming election and give America a brief Democratic window in-between the Nixon and the Reagan years. This however, is not that world, and channeling the gravitas given to him by his office and his thirty years in D.C. President Ford would beat the former Georgia Governor into a verbal pulp. The momentum granted by the victory would not be enough to overcome the weight of Richard Nixon, the energy crisis and the fall of Saigon in the eyes of the American public, but it did move the states of Ohio and Wisconsin into the Republican column, which in the end would be enough. Mrs Ford would to her death maintain that this was the stupidest thing her husband ever did. Ford's second term would be dominated by his perceived inability to handle the energy crisis and assorted new and exciting economic phenomena's, with a botched attempt to stifle an anti-Shah (and anti-American) revolution in Iran finishing of five disastrous years in late 1979. It would be with a sigh of relief that a term-limited Ford handed of his responsibilities for the country and the escalating Republican civil war in January 1981.
1981-1989: Hugh Carey (D-NY)/Dale Bumpers (D-AR)
1980: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Kit Bond (R-MO)
1984: Bob Dole (R-KS)/James Thompson (R-IL)
If there's one man who 21st century Democrats finds themselves measured against (and in that measure often found wanting), it is Hugh Leo Carey. A New Deal Liberal with a reputation for fiscal discipline, the New Yorker with the deep voice, the sympathetic personal story (the tale of the widowed father would tug many a heartstrings) and fourteen telegenic children would, after Ted Kennedy dropped out before ever dropping in and Jerry Brown flamed out, take on both Fitz Hollings and Lloyd Bentsen in a fierce but ultimately short primary struggle. Crushing a bloody and battered Ronald Reagan (who had have to all but burn down his own party to defeat the Vice President) in the general election, Carey had on his side a mandate and a friendly Congress not seen in at least sixteen years. Although the man himself would rather his legacy to be his national healthcare plan ("Medicarey"), in popular memory he would be remembered as the driving force behind the fall of the Soviet Union as a superpower (the increased defense spending's of the 80's would completely and irrevocably put a stop on any plans of the Carey Administration to cut the deficit) and the booming economy of the 1980's. All-in-all and with one big exception, President Carey would retire a happy man, and as the respected Grand Old Man of his party (if one who would become increasingly at odds with the party-line on abortion).
1989-1993: Robert Orr (R-IN)/Phil Gram (R-TX)
1988: Dale Bumpers (D-AR)/John Kerry (D-MA)
For much of the 1988 election season, Indiana Governor Robert Orr wasn't a future President. He was one of several potential sacrificial lambs sent forward by the Republican leadership to prevent someone like Pat Robertson from embarrassing the party. That's not to say that he wasn't a serious candidate, but until late September 1988 everyone who mattered knew that Vice President Bumpers was the de-facto President-elect. Then, as if to show the usefulness of the chattering class, things changed. As the slowly deteriorating Soviet Union very directly lashed out against massive protests in several satellite states, the Carey Administration responded in a perhaps prudent, but hardly aggressive, manner. Latching onto the contrast between the now iconic picture of teenage dissidents gunned down by Soviet troops in Rostock and the carefully worded rebuke of President Carey and Secretary of State Nunn. Orr successfully turned a 20 points deficit into an effective tie in nine weeks, and after a nailbiter of an election night came out on top in one of the closest elections in US history.
Despite the rhetoric which had made him President, Robert Orr would govern almost as the patron saint of cautious statesmen. Through careful diplomacy he guided the fallen remains of the former Soviet block through a peaceful transition to (semi)democracy, and his response to the recession of 1991 can only be described as “measured and constructive”. Indeed, Orr had it in him to become one of the great ones, were it not for one tiny fact: People just didn’t like him. Perhaps it was due to President Orr being a very different public person than Candidate Orr, or perhaps it was his inability to avoid taking the lion-share of the blame for the de-facto state of war which had broken out between the White House and the heavily Democratic Congress (Orr had run ahead of the rest of his party by a significant margin in 1988). Nevertheless, despite all efforts and good intentions, Robert Orr was not destined to become one of the Great Ones, and would be swept out by another unlikely President.
1993-1997: Harris Wofford (D-PA)/Bob Graham (D-FL)
1992: Robert Orr (R-IN)/Phil Gram (R-TX)
A liberal civil servant and former activist, Pennsylvania Governor Harris Wofford was certainly not the expected Democratic nominee. However, his technocratic focus on bread-and-butter issues would set him apart in comparison with his main rivals, and after unexpectedly sweeping the southern primaries on the back of the black vote (and a split white one, courtesy of Governor Miller and Senator Gore) he emerged as the frontrunner. Picking the safely moderate Bob Graham to share the ticket with him, he unseated President Orr with a decent (but not great) margin in the general. With a liberal President and a (largely) liberal Congress once again in place, many Democrats hoped for a return to the Carey years, and by-and-large they would be proved correct. While the economic recovery would be sluggish at best, Wofford used his significant post-election mandate to push through a large-scale education program, and would continue Orr’s policy of support and reconciliation in Eastern Europe (the Soviet Union proper still limped on, but had seen its influence significantly reduced). The 1994 midterms saw a reduction in the the party’s significant majorities, but the Democrats had reason to be at least cautiously optimistic about their prospects for 1996, at least before the passing of the First Lady. Clare Wofford had been her husband's closest adviser for decade, and her death of leukemia in early 1996 would effectively break the President. While Democratic strategists hoped that the sympathy-bump would be enough to keep Wofford electorally steady, it was clear to the public that his wife’s death had taken a severe toll on the President’s health and psyche (at 70, his age played no small part either). Had he stepped down in favor of Vice President Graham, the election might had been salvaged, but with the President insisting on soldiering on he would be an easy target for the Republican challenger, and once again the Democrats found themselves on the wrong side of a previously unexpected result.
After making public his relationship with another man some twenty years after he left office, Harris Wofford have recently emerged as the first confirmed LGBT President.
1997-2005: Don Nickles (R-OK)/Steve Merrill (R-NH)
1996: Harris Wofford (D-PA)/Bill Nelson (D-FL)
2000: David Price (D-NC)/Evan Bayh (D-IN)
If Hugh Carey is the hero of the modern Democratic Party, Don Nickles is his Republican equivalent. As unexpected a President as his two predecessor, the conservative Oklahoma Senator had successfully rallied both the Christian Right and the establishment party mainstream in his quest for the nomination, and would skillfully exploit Wofford’s badly led campaign (while never attracting the rage of the public by appearing to disrespect the memory of the late First Lady) on his way to the Presidency. Being sworn in with a new Republican Senate (the first one in 40 years) and a reduced Democratic majority in the House, Nickles sat to work on what would arguably be the biggest paradigm-shift since the 1930’s. The tax-cuts, the deregulation's and the conservative social agenda might have been par for the course even in previous decades, but the sheer scale, combined with significant welfare reform and several major trade deals (the North American Border Agreement, NABA, foremost among them) would have cemented Nickles as one of the great reformers even had he been kicked out in 2000. Now, that was not to happen, and backed by a booming economy the President easily dispatched Senator Price in a 43-state landslide (the controversial Democratic primary undoubtedly played a roll as well, with the runner-up Governor Feingold leaving the party in protest and serving out his remaining two terms as an independent).
The 2000 election would also break the Democratic stranglehold on the House, with Minority Leader Cheney taking over as the first Republican Speaker since Joe Martin. After eight undoubtedly successful years behind him, would be able to retire doing what Hugh Carey hadn’t: hand over the White House to his chosen successor and Vice President.
2005-2009: Steve Merrill (R-NH)/Katherine Harris (R-FL)
2004: Tom Carper (D-DE)/Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-AR)
Steve Merrill had not been a happy Vice President. As Governor he had turned a budgetary disaster into the most fiscally prudent state in America and won reelection with almost three-quarters of the vote, but in Washington he played second (if even that) fiddle to a man he considered his inferior in every way. But he had kept his quiet and done his duty, and now he would reap his reward. Swept into office as the third term of Don Nickles, Merrill was desperate to create his own legacy and had big plans. To a certain extent, he succeeded, overseeing an ambitious re-write of the tax code and new trade agreements with Latin America before the floor went out of the global economy in early 2006. It wasn’t Merrill’s fault, not really, but he was the President and it didn’t take long before Democrats from all walks of life placed the blame squarely at the feet of Nicklesonomics. As such, it surprised absolutely no one when Merrill, his young Vice President (Katherine Harris would make history in her own right, being together with Arkansas’ Hillary Clinton the first female Vice Presidential nominee, and the first one to be elected) and the Congressional majorities that just a few years earlier had been called permanent were swept out of office in a landslide even Don Nickles would’ve been proud off.
2009-2017: Max Sandlin (D-TX)/Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)
2008: Steve Merrill (R-NH)/Katherine Harris (R-FL)
2012: Randy Daniels (R-NY)/Duncan Hunter (R-CA)
While he have been accused of surrendering to the legacy of Nickles and Merrill, no one can deny that Max Sandlin will be remembered as one of the most successful Democrats in the party’s history. Emerging as the victor from a crowded Democratic primary field, the centrist Texas Governor would go on to easily route President Merrill (and the rest of the Republican Party). Overseeing a moderate economic recovery and (some) reversals of the welfare reforms of the previous administrations, Sandlin’s signature moves would be the controversial Immigration Reconstruction and Control Act, which would be decried as a general amnesty by hawks on both sides of the aisle. Despite uproar against IRCA, Sandlin would manage to repeat his 2008 landslide four years later against the NY Governor Randy Daniels in what would become the dirtiest campaign in a generation. Daniels, who in securing the nomination had become the first African-American major party nominee in American history, was in all probability doomed from the start, but few doubt that Sandlin would've had been able to become the first Democrat since Carter to take the entire deep south had some local party organizations not employed a few unsavory tactics in their attempt to contrast the black yankee with the good ol’ boy from Texarkana. Like Nickles, President Sandlin would successfully see his Vice President succeed him, and only time will tell if she will fare better than the last Vice President to take over from their boss.
2017-: Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)/Thomas McDermott (D-IN)
2016: Jack Ryan (R-IL)/Tom Osborne (R-NE)
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1979-1979: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 def: Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
The return of Conservative Government to the United Kingdom proved to be less smooth than had been hoped for. On the morning of the State Opening of Parliament, just before the Parliamentary hostage was sent to the Palace and before the Queen set off for Westminster, a series of explosions shook the heaving Parliament. Big Ben plummeted into the Thames, never to sound again. All the neo-Gothic magnificence was utterly destroyed, reduced to rubble. The Great London Museum, completed in 1996 at the site of the blasts, showcases what remains of the statues and busts, but it is a poor treasure trove compared to what existed before.
And, of course, literally all the MPs and Lords were diffused out over the Gulf Stream.
1979-1979: Oswald Mosley (Union Movement)
It didn’t take long to find out who the perpetrators were: they came forward within minutes with their Union Jack and their stomach-churning pronouncements about the quality of Black Blood which were fairly ridiculous considering all the Red Blood that surrounded them in that mound of rubble just off Parliament Square. The remaining onlookers were too shaken to take them to task, though, and were further discouraged from doing so when Lord Carington clawed his way out of the wreckage - the only surviving politician in the land - and was shot in the face for his trouble. The Terrorists proclaimed Sir Oswald Mosley as Prime Minister, but there is no evidence that Mosley had any ties with Derek Holland and his collaborators. But for a few hours, until the Army cleared out the last of the Terrorists in the Palace of Westminster, he was the closest thing we had to a Premier. Even though he may not have been aware of this until after the fact.
1979-1980: Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
The following day, Queen Elizabeth II, who had been under especially strong armed guard since the events of the State Opening, addressed the nation over television in a historic breach of convention. She immediately appointed Emlyn Hooson, a long-standing Liberal MP who had lost his seat a month or two before and was the closest thing Britain had to a unifying figurehead. Hooson, however, was powerless to prevent the Army from pursuing a tactic of summary executions of suspected National Front supporters or other Terrorists, and could not move out of Downing Street fast enough when the (relatively) unprovoked attacks on Irish Nationalists in Ulster sparked yet another phase of general violent lawlessness in Northern Ireland. He called a General Election as soon as it was safe to do so in the majority of the country (while the NF was very small and its actions greeted with hatred by ordinary people, there were copycat attack in minor cities) and announced that he would step down from his unelected role.
1980-1994: Teddy Taylor (Conservative)
1980 def: Shirley Williams (Labour), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1984 def: Shirley Williams (Labour), Alex Carlile (Liberal)
1989 def: Tony Blair (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal)
Teddy Taylor (who had also lost his seat in 1979 and, in doing so, saved his own life) benefited from a ‘rally round the flag’ effect in the aftermath of the Westminster Attack. The Martyr Margaret Thatcher, at whose State Funeral he was featured prominently, had not been overly fond of him, but needs must when the devil drives, and the British people felt that the NF should be told that the Tories were the democratic choice of the People. As such, Taylor won 450 seats off the bat against Labour moderate Shirley Williams.
Taylor was a chief member of the Monday Club, and pursued a double policy of cracking down on far-right activists while also withdrawing from the EEC on a unilateral basis and reaching out to the disaffected Right by banning (and stringently enforcing the bans on) homosexuality and abortion and establishing a system of voluntary repatriation. The attacks ceased, apart from the incessant Ulster situation. Now, Shirley Williams was a fairly liberal voice in Labour, and attacked these measures, but she was again rejected by an electorate in siege mentality in 1984. The Actual Liberals were also losing ground, having lost a lot of the MPs who had built up personal votes in their constituencies and being on the wrong side of the human rights debates of the 1980s.
1994-2001: Gordon Brown (Labour)
1994 def: Teddy Taylor (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal)
1999 def: Michael Fallon (Conservative)
Labour only returned to power when the electorate was bored of the aging Taylor and Labour had moved towards the new consensus. Socially, Gordon Brown was not exactly Taylorite, but he certainly saw such issues as irrelevant compared to the very real issues of Balance of Payments crises and wage exploitation. Brown kept the social policies of the Tories, but introduced helpful measures such as the Minimum Wage and the Family Box for new mothers, in stark contrast to Taylor’s more hands-off approach to the economy. Brown enjoyed huge success despite his personal awkwardness, because he was presented as a munificent Father of the State in an era when Britain really needed someone to reassure them that everything was going to be alright.
2001-2001: Peter Mandelson (Labour)
It wasn’t going to be alright.
On the 9th of November 2001, the radical Islamist group ‘Al-Qaeda’ hijacked eight planes from Luton Airport and flew them into the newly-constructed Houses of Parliament in the New Town of Elizabethton. This was different to the National Front attack: not only was Britain hardened, but on a more practical level, not every MP was present on that particular day. Peter Mandelson, of the oily demeanour and slightly creepy moustache, was the only surviving Cabinet Member and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in an insufficiently mournful address to the public (including several policy announcements which were considered a bit Soon), and before long not only was the entire population baying for his resignation, but the Queen was too. Mandelson, leaving the new Prime Ministerial residence on Thatcher Street with his wife just a few days after entering it, would be followed by a repeat of the last time Parliament had been decimated: a down-to-earth Liberal who had just lost his seat in the previous election.
2001-2001: Paddy Ashdown, Baron Ashdown (Liberal)
What had worked last time did not work this time. A population presented with nonentities in yellow rosettes whose policies were directly in contradiction with the Principle of Self-Preservation (Teddy Taylor’s coinage) had eroded the stellar local work of the Liberal Party, and they had lost the last of their seats, Yeovil, in 1999. Now, Lord Ashdown, one of the surviving Peers, was not a bad man at all, but he came at the wrong time. Having been involved in the Yugoslavian Civil War as a mediator between Christian and Muslim groups, he was ill-suited to commanding a country which demanded nothing less than the eradication of Islamism both at home and abroad. He resigned within the month under pressure from the ad-hoc militias and the Establishment.
2001-0000: Diana, Princess of Wales (Independent, leading Anti-Islamist Government)
2002 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), William Hague (Conservative)
2007 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), Andrea Leadsom (Conservative)
2012 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), Andrea Leadsom (Conservative)
Princess Diana, whose Muslim second husband had died in a car crash a couple of years before, was the only person in the country with the gravitas to lead (except perhaps Noel Edmonds). She was chosen as PM by the Queen and found a seat to run in unopposed. Since then, her image - at first on reassuring posters and now on digital billboards and Apps - has been inescapable. She has united both parties in an Anti-Islamist Government, which roots out various undesirables at home for the ultimate safety of Britain, while simultaneously co-operating with other, similarly threatened countries, such as America and South Africa, to target the terrorist menace wherever it crops up - be it Northern Ireland or Saudi Arabia. Admittedly, some people are getting bored of the fact that no constituencies have been contested by both parties since 1999, but a slight lack of democracy is a small price to pay for the knowledge that sudden swathes of by-elections are much less likely than they have been lately.
1979-1979: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1979 def: Jim Callaghan (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
The return of Conservative Government to the United Kingdom proved to be less smooth than had been hoped for. On the morning of the State Opening of Parliament, just before the Parliamentary hostage was sent to the Palace and before the Queen set off for Westminster, a series of explosions shook the heaving Parliament. Big Ben plummeted into the Thames, never to sound again. All the neo-Gothic magnificence was utterly destroyed, reduced to rubble. The Great London Museum, completed in 1996 at the site of the blasts, showcases what remains of the statues and busts, but it is a poor treasure trove compared to what existed before.
And, of course, literally all the MPs and Lords were diffused out over the Gulf Stream.
1979-1979: Oswald Mosley (Union Movement)
It didn’t take long to find out who the perpetrators were: they came forward within minutes with their Union Jack and their stomach-churning pronouncements about the quality of Black Blood which were fairly ridiculous considering all the Red Blood that surrounded them in that mound of rubble just off Parliament Square. The remaining onlookers were too shaken to take them to task, though, and were further discouraged from doing so when Lord Carington clawed his way out of the wreckage - the only surviving politician in the land - and was shot in the face for his trouble. The Terrorists proclaimed Sir Oswald Mosley as Prime Minister, but there is no evidence that Mosley had any ties with Derek Holland and his collaborators. But for a few hours, until the Army cleared out the last of the Terrorists in the Palace of Westminster, he was the closest thing we had to a Premier. Even though he may not have been aware of this until after the fact.
1979-1980: Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
The following day, Queen Elizabeth II, who had been under especially strong armed guard since the events of the State Opening, addressed the nation over television in a historic breach of convention. She immediately appointed Emlyn Hooson, a long-standing Liberal MP who had lost his seat a month or two before and was the closest thing Britain had to a unifying figurehead. Hooson, however, was powerless to prevent the Army from pursuing a tactic of summary executions of suspected National Front supporters or other Terrorists, and could not move out of Downing Street fast enough when the (relatively) unprovoked attacks on Irish Nationalists in Ulster sparked yet another phase of general violent lawlessness in Northern Ireland. He called a General Election as soon as it was safe to do so in the majority of the country (while the NF was very small and its actions greeted with hatred by ordinary people, there were copycat attack in minor cities) and announced that he would step down from his unelected role.
1980-1994: Teddy Taylor (Conservative)
1980 def: Shirley Williams (Labour), Emlyn Hooson (Liberal)
1984 def: Shirley Williams (Labour), Alex Carlile (Liberal)
1989 def: Tony Blair (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal)
Teddy Taylor (who had also lost his seat in 1979 and, in doing so, saved his own life) benefited from a ‘rally round the flag’ effect in the aftermath of the Westminster Attack. The Martyr Margaret Thatcher, at whose State Funeral he was featured prominently, had not been overly fond of him, but needs must when the devil drives, and the British people felt that the NF should be told that the Tories were the democratic choice of the People. As such, Taylor won 450 seats off the bat against Labour moderate Shirley Williams.
Taylor was a chief member of the Monday Club, and pursued a double policy of cracking down on far-right activists while also withdrawing from the EEC on a unilateral basis and reaching out to the disaffected Right by banning (and stringently enforcing the bans on) homosexuality and abortion and establishing a system of voluntary repatriation. The attacks ceased, apart from the incessant Ulster situation. Now, Shirley Williams was a fairly liberal voice in Labour, and attacked these measures, but she was again rejected by an electorate in siege mentality in 1984. The Actual Liberals were also losing ground, having lost a lot of the MPs who had built up personal votes in their constituencies and being on the wrong side of the human rights debates of the 1980s.
1994-2001: Gordon Brown (Labour)
1994 def: Teddy Taylor (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal)
1999 def: Michael Fallon (Conservative)
Labour only returned to power when the electorate was bored of the aging Taylor and Labour had moved towards the new consensus. Socially, Gordon Brown was not exactly Taylorite, but he certainly saw such issues as irrelevant compared to the very real issues of Balance of Payments crises and wage exploitation. Brown kept the social policies of the Tories, but introduced helpful measures such as the Minimum Wage and the Family Box for new mothers, in stark contrast to Taylor’s more hands-off approach to the economy. Brown enjoyed huge success despite his personal awkwardness, because he was presented as a munificent Father of the State in an era when Britain really needed someone to reassure them that everything was going to be alright.
2001-2001: Peter Mandelson (Labour)
It wasn’t going to be alright.
On the 9th of November 2001, the radical Islamist group ‘Al-Qaeda’ hijacked eight planes from Luton Airport and flew them into the newly-constructed Houses of Parliament in the New Town of Elizabethton. This was different to the National Front attack: not only was Britain hardened, but on a more practical level, not every MP was present on that particular day. Peter Mandelson, of the oily demeanour and slightly creepy moustache, was the only surviving Cabinet Member and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in an insufficiently mournful address to the public (including several policy announcements which were considered a bit Soon), and before long not only was the entire population baying for his resignation, but the Queen was too. Mandelson, leaving the new Prime Ministerial residence on Thatcher Street with his wife just a few days after entering it, would be followed by a repeat of the last time Parliament had been decimated: a down-to-earth Liberal who had just lost his seat in the previous election.
2001-2001: Paddy Ashdown, Baron Ashdown (Liberal)
What had worked last time did not work this time. A population presented with nonentities in yellow rosettes whose policies were directly in contradiction with the Principle of Self-Preservation (Teddy Taylor’s coinage) had eroded the stellar local work of the Liberal Party, and they had lost the last of their seats, Yeovil, in 1999. Now, Lord Ashdown, one of the surviving Peers, was not a bad man at all, but he came at the wrong time. Having been involved in the Yugoslavian Civil War as a mediator between Christian and Muslim groups, he was ill-suited to commanding a country which demanded nothing less than the eradication of Islamism both at home and abroad. He resigned within the month under pressure from the ad-hoc militias and the Establishment.
2001-0000: Diana, Princess of Wales (Independent, leading Anti-Islamist Government)
2002 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), William Hague (Conservative)
2007 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), Andrea Leadsom (Conservative)
2012 def: Peter Mandelson (Labour), Andrea Leadsom (Conservative)
Princess Diana, whose Muslim second husband had died in a car crash a couple of years before, was the only person in the country with the gravitas to lead (except perhaps Noel Edmonds). She was chosen as PM by the Queen and found a seat to run in unopposed. Since then, her image - at first on reassuring posters and now on digital billboards and Apps - has been inescapable. She has united both parties in an Anti-Islamist Government, which roots out various undesirables at home for the ultimate safety of Britain, while simultaneously co-operating with other, similarly threatened countries, such as America and South Africa, to target the terrorist menace wherever it crops up - be it Northern Ireland or Saudi Arabia. Admittedly, some people are getting bored of the fact that no constituencies have been contested by both parties since 1999, but a slight lack of democracy is a small price to pay for the knowledge that sudden swathes of by-elections are much less likely than they have been lately.
@Uhura's Mazda there are no words
That's the thread, guys, we're done here. Brilliantly creative and funny.
That's the thread, guys, we're done here. Brilliantly creative and funny.
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