List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Catalunya - The Smiling Man
--- The Smiling Man ---

1961 - 1962: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat)

1960: Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (Republican)
1962 - 1963: Curtis LeMay (Millitary)
1963 - 1963: Edwin Walker (Millitary)
1963 - 1966: Thomas S. Power (Military)
1966 - 1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Richard Nixon (Normalcy -- Democrat - Republican)
1969 - 1977: Walter Cronkite / Robert F. Kennedy (Independent / Freedom)

1968: Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert H. Humphrey (Democrat), Richard Nixon / Edward Brooke (Republican), Ross Barnett / Ezra Taft Benson (American), Barry Goldwater / Ronald Reagan (Conservative), Eugene McCarthy / Don Edwards ('True' Freedom)
1972: William F. Buckley, Jr. / George H. W. Bush (Republican), Henry 'Scoop' Jackson / Jimmy Carter (Democrat), George Wallace / John G. Schmitz (American)

1977 - 1981: Ted M. Kennedy / Jerry Brown ( Democrat / Freedom )
1976: Ronald Reagan / Gerald Ford, Jr. (Republican), Jesse Helms / James L. Buckley (American), Ron Dellums / Gore Vidal (Socialist)
 
RightTosser - Rockefeller '68
1969-1976: Nelson A. Rockefeller† / Daniel J. Evans (GOP-NY/WA)
1968 def. Hubert H. Humphrey / Edmund S. Muskie (DEM-MN/ME), George C. Wallace / Curtis E. LeMay (AIP-AL/CA)

1972 def. George S. McGovern / Sargent Shriver (DEM-SD/MD)


1976-1981: Daniel J. Evans / Donald H. Rumsfeld (GOP-WA/IL)

1976 def. Morris K. "Mo" Udall / Edward W. Proxmire (DEM-AZ/WI)

1981-1989: Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy / Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown (DEM-MA/CA)

1980 def. Daniel J. Evans / Donald H. Rumsfeld (GOP-WA/IL)

1984 def. Lee S. Dreyfus / Linwood A. Holton (GOP-WI/VA)


1989-1997: Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown / Brereton C. Jones (DEM-CA/KY)

1988 def. Jack F. Kemp / George H. W. Bush (GOP-NY/TX)

1992 def. Robert J. Dole / Lowell P. Weicker, Jr. (GOP-KS/CT), Jesse A. Helms, Jr. / various (Values-NC/var.)


1997-2005: Theodore R. Bundy / Donald H. Rumsfeld (GOP-WA/IL)

1996 def. Brereton C. Jones / Lawton M. Chiles, Jr. (DEM-KY/FL)

2000 def. Russell D. Feingold / Richard D. Lamm (DEM-WI/CO)


2005-2009: Dennis J. Kucinich / Wesley K. Clark, Sr. (DEM-OH/AR)

2004 def. Olympia J. B. Snowe / John E. "Jeb" Bush (GOP-ME/FL)

2009-2017: Hillary R. Bundy / Arlen Specter (GOP-CA/PA)

2008 def. Dennis J. Kucinich / Wesley K. Clark, Sr. (DEM-OH/AR)

2012 def. Russell D. Feingold / Jeremiah W. Nixon (D-WI/MO)


2017-present: Jesse L. Jackson, Jr. / Kyrsten L. Sinema (DEM-IL/AZ)
2016 def. George F. Allen / Susana Martinez (GOP-VA/NM)

so basically rocky gets the nomination in 1968 because nicky decides not to run / can't run for whatever reason and rocky goes on to defeat wally and hummy in the election with danny as his running mate which all bodes really well for a certain someone from washington who by 1976 has because danny's chief of staff (rip rocky he was stressin from being president and all that) while rummy is the vice president because he didn't get tapped as a cabinet guy in ttl and so he continues his career in congress but has good stature going into '76 an election which the gop wins because rocky was a good president and all who ended the suffering in vietnam and completed the work of desegregation etc. and danny just coasted on rocky's achievements but a bunch of bad stuff happens and so a certain progressive teddy gets the presidency with jerry at his side and they do a good job so teddy gets two terms and then jerry also gets two terms but in '96 people are tired of the dems and so they're all like "fuck it" and they elect an all-new teddy except this one is a really charismatic republican from washington who was the chief of staff for danny (another washington gop guy lol) who does really well with women and whose wife he met at the 1968 rnc and who is a policy wonk who is committed to doing stuff as first lady but rummy gets to be vice president again because he would provide good foreign policy chops and be an elder statesman and all that and because charles w fairbanks was charles evan hughes' running mate in 1916 even after he was the vice president for theodore roosevelt (wow a lot of teds to deal with right?) so don't fucking tell me you can't have someone be vice president twice in non-consecutive terms but anyhow bundy does pretty good and wins two terms but the people are like 'lets elect another democrat lol" and so they elect a populist democrat who fucks up majorly and then gets swept aside by hillary who was able to forge a name for herself both by introducing policy proposals as first lady and as california governor who choses speccy as her running mate to balance the ticket geographically but anyways hillary does well in her first term but in 2012 rumors begin to emerge about potential improprieties on the part of teddy but those are just rumors right so hillary wins re-election soundly and her second term goes well but her vp speccy is a bit too old to be pursuing the presidency so instead george allen wins the nomination after a long fought battle (georgie nearly got the nomination in 08 but hillary ya know) and looks like he can win against jesse but ted bundy is arrested for murder and that turns the race against allen so he takes an L against a ticket where both of the people on the ticket have "L" as their middle initial lol sorry i will go to jail now for causing cancer wait wait why do the brits spell it "cancelled" but we spell it "canceled" b/c we gave them that L back in 1783 lol goteem
 
AidanM - Rock(efeller) the World
Rock(efeller) the World
1961-1965: Nelson Rockefeller/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
def. 1960: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson
1965-1972: Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey
def. 1964: Nelson Rockefeller/Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr.
def. 1968: Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller

1972-1973: Hubert Humphrey/Vacant [1]
1973-1978:
Hubert Humphrey/Robert F. Kennedy

def. 1972: Richard Nixon/Ronald Reagan
def. 1976: George Romney/Spiro Agnew

1978-1981: Robert F. Kennedy/Vacant [2]
1981-1989:
Richard Nixon/Larry Pressler

def. 1980: Robert F. Kennedy/Jimmy Carter
def. 1984: Gary Hart/Walter Mondale

1989-1993: Ron Paul/David Koch
def. 1988: Al Gore/Joe Biden
1993-2001: Geraldine Ferraro/Bill Clinton
def. 1992: Ron Paul/David Koch
def. 1996: Donald Rumsfeld/Bob Dole

2001-2003: Bill Clinton/Condoleezza Rice
def. 2000: John McCain/Orrin Hatch
2003: Bill Clinton/Vacant [3]
2003-2005:
Bill Clinton/Lincoln Chafee
2005-2013: Heather Locklear/George W. Bush

def. 2004: Bill Clinton/Lincoln Chafee
def. 2008: Wesley Clark/Jon Corzine

2013-2017: George W. Bush/David Schwimmer
def. 2012: Tim Kaine/John Edwards
2017-present: Nick Cannon/Mariah Carey
def. 2016: George W. Bush/David Schwimmer

[1] Lyndon B. Johnson died on February 8, 1972. Vice President Hubert Humphrey ascended to the presidency.
[2] Humphrey won a term of his own in 1972, though he unfortunately passed away in 1978. Vice President Robert Kennedy ascended to the presidency.
[3] In the infamous Ricegate scandal, Condoleezza Rice was forced to resign after it was revealed that President Clinton and Vice President Rice were having an affair. Following her resignation (and Hillary Clinton leaving Bill), Condoleezza assumed the responsibilities of First Lady. Bill Clinton nominated Lincoln Chafee to replace Rice, and he was confirmed by the Senate.

ITTL, Heather Locklear served as a Senator from Iowa, David Schwimmer was a U.S. Representative from New York, Nick Cannon was the Governor of Illinois, and Mariah Carey was the Mayor of New York City, instead of being actors.
 
Nofix - Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck
Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck

1985-1993: Arch Moore (Republican)
1993-1997: Bob Wise (Democratic)
1997-2001: Cecil Underwood (Republican)
2001-2002: Gaston Caperton (Democratic)*
2002-2005: Earl Ray Tomblin (Democratic)**
2005-2013: Jim Justice (Republican)
2013-20??: Joe Manchin (Democratic)


* Resigned to be appointed to Senate seat.
** Senate President and first in line to become Governor.
 
Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck

1985-1993: Arch Moore (Republican)
1993-1997: Bob Wise (Democratic)
1997-2001: Cecil Underwood (Republican)
2001-2002: Gaston Caperton (Democratic)*
2002-2005: Earl Ray Tomblin (Democratic)**
2005-2013: Jim Justice (Republican)
2013-20??: Joe Manchin (Democratic)


* Resigned to be appointed to Senate seat.
** Senate President and first in line to become Governor.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa and still Cecil Underwood gets screwed over.
 
AidanM - A Worse 9/11
A Worse 9/11
2001: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney
def. 2000: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman
2001: Dennis Hastert/Vacant
2001-2003:
Dennis Hastert/Donald Rumsfeld
2003: Donald Rumsfeld/Vacant
2003-2013:
Donald Rumsfeld/John Ashcroft

def. 2004: Wesley Clark/John Kerry
def. 2008: Joe Biden/John McCain

2013-2014: John Ashcroft/Colin Powell
def. 2012: Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley
2014-2015: Colin Powell/Vacant
2015-present:
Wesley Clark/Jim Webb

def. 2014: Ted Cruz/Rand Paul

September 11, 2001 would be marked as one of the worst days in American history. Four planes had been hijacked by terrorists: two planes flew into the WTC, one plan flew into the White House, and the fourth flew into the Statue of Liberty. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, who were in the White House at the time, were killed. Speaker of the House of Representatives, Dennis Hastert, was inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States. Within two days, Hastert had nominated Donald Rumsfeld to be Vice President; he was confirmed by Congress as the 47th Vice President of the United States.

March 1, 2003 was another day for the history books. Three individuals who were students of Hastert when he was a teacher provided evidence that he had molested them. Hastert pleaded guilty, and resigned from the Presidency. Donald Rumsfeld as inaugurated as the 45th President of the United States. Within a month, he had chosen John Ashcroft as the 48th Vice President.

Rumsfeld/Ashcroft, who had been extremely unpopular due to the increased aggression in the Middle East, decided to take manners into their own hands to "prevent the Democrats from fucking everything up" (their words). They did as much as they could that election to prevent likely Democratic voters from voting, resulting in them winning in a landslide.

By 2008, half of the country had been united against the White House. Joe Biden, who had won the Democratic primaries, selected John McCain as his running mate, referring to themselves as the "Unity Ticket". However, on election day, Rumsfeld had planted false evidence on Biden and McCain implicating them in treason, resulting in another "landslide" win for Rumsfeld and Ashcroft.

Constitutionally ineligible for another term, Rumsfeld announced that John Ashcroft would continue to "carry out the necessary agenda of our administration", with Ashcroft announcing the intention of naming Rumsfeld to be Secretary of State.

John Ashcroft and his running mate, Colin Powell, defeated Hillary Clinton and Martin O'Malley after successfully painting them as anti-Semites and "anti-American" with false information.

June 18, 2014 was a day for the history books. After discovering all of the illegal activities done by Rumsfeld and Ashcroft over the past decade, Colin Powell led a military coup against Ashcroft. Powell, who then became Acting President, announced an executive order for snap elections to be held "to put these dark days behind us for good".

Wesley Clark and Jim Webb, on the Democratic ticket, won in a landslide, winning all 538 electoral votes, though there was no true Republican opposition anyway, as most of them had endorsed Clark/Webb anyway. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul ran on the Republican ticket as to avoid the appearance of another "appointed" President.
 
i had a stupid thought this morning

pls forgive me

'You can bet your bottom dollar that every one thinking they are the saviour of the Labour Party tonight is a dude'

1997-2007: Tony Blair (Labour)
1997 (Majority) def. John Major (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
2001 (Majority) def. William Hague (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2005 (Majority) def. Michael Howard (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)

2007-2012: Gordon Brown (Labour)
2007 (Majority) def. Edward Leigh (Conservative), Ming Campbell (Liberal Democrat)
2012-2020: Edward Leigh (Conservative)
2012 (Minority) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. David Miliband (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)


Leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition since 2015

2015-2017: Diane Abbott (Labour)
2017-2020: The Skeletal Wight of Theodore Roosevelt (Labour)

i think the POD is fairly obvious

EDIT: also this is literally thandes fault so you can actually Blame @Thande

The POD:

When Peter Mandelson is appointed EU Commissioner, he has to stand down as an MP. At the ensuing by-election, the Prince of Darkness uses his malevolent power learnt in the covens of Oxford to raise Teddy Roosevelt from the dead. The wight proved to retain Teddy's winning personality and after an initial blip, narrowly won the by-election.

Alongside the other issues that plagued New Labour at the 2005 election and afterwards, they now had to contend with the very obvious presence of the practise of witchcraft within the party. The 2005 election is closer, and Labour's majority is reduced to the low twenties. When Blair resigns, Brown is much less confident of victory if he waits and holds the election in 2007. He is still enjoying his honeymoon and enlarges the majority into the 60s, but the new anti-witchcraft leader of the Tories is only building his head of steam.

By 2012, Brown is deeply unpopular but the arch conservatism of his rival and a Lib Dem surge means the Tories persist on a minority. After three years of cuts, Leigh promises a referendum on membership of the European Union. David Milibands campaign is distinctly tone deaf and Labour is mired in witchcraft scandals, a notable being Jamgate in which it was revealed Jeremy Corbyn earned the favour of dryads in order to achieve victory in his allotments vegetable competition.

The Tories win a majority and introduce Witch Registration. Diane Abbott wins a surprising victory in Labour's post-Miliband leadership election. Her leadership proves lamentable and a certain dude emerges from her frontbench...
 
AidanM - Welcome Back, Carter!
Welcome Back, Carter!
1977-1981: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
def. 1976: Gerald Ford/Bob Dole
1981-1985: Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush
def. 1980: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
1985-1989: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale
def. 1984: George H. W. Bush/Dan Quayle
1989-1993: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro
def. 1988: Bob Dole/Alexander Haig
1993-1997: Jack Kemp/Lamar Alexander
def. 1992: Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro
1997-2005: Bill Clinton/Al Gore
def. 1996: Jack Kemp/Lamar Alexander
def. 2000: John McCain/George W. Bush

2005-2009: Al Gore/John Kerry
def. 2004: John Kasich/Condoleezza Rice
2009-2017: Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan
def. 2008: Al Gore/John Kerry
def. 2012: Hilary Clinton/Wesley Clark

2017-present: Barack Obama/Howard Dean
def. 2016: Paul Ryan/Ted Cruz
def. 2020: Kelly Ayotte/Marco Rubio
 
Sithlent - The Parody
Here's a little parody for you guys:

hi guys my name is @jimmythealthistoryfan and i just discuvered this thread . heres my orginal idea " what if ragen died in 1981 " TOTALY original cuz jfk not dying is completly unorginal amirite ?! anyways lets go

what if ragan died in 1981 ??
1 ronnie regen 1981 - 1981( Died )
2 george hw buch 1981 - 1989 ( won against hussain in iraq in 91 . )
3 duke mike 1989 - 1991 (asasinated by the son of lee harvy oswald )
4 bill clinton 1991 - 2001 ( almost lost president by lewinskygate )
5 bernie 'feel the bern' sanders 2001 - 2020 ( HE COULDA WON IN 2016 GUYS if we didnt get korrupt killary klinton )
6 donald trump 2020 - 2029 (trump still won after bernie tho)
7 vlad puten 2029 - 2030 (he was exild to america and became ruler after his lover trump got outta office )
8 jimmythealthistoryfan 2030 - 2034 (HAHAHAH what a twist !!!)
 
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Oppo - Another Parody
Here's a little parody for you guys:
hey guys this is my jfk not died list lol. anayways, this is such a good list lol. since all u hating on me becuase i better than you, i add foototes like u said i shoud. lol wtf? so this is my EPIC list.

1960-1968: John F. Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) [1]
1960: Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1964: Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller (Republican)
1968-1976: Nelson Rockefeller/Ronald Reagan (Republican) [2]
1968: Lyndon Johnson/Herbet Humprhrey (Democrat)
1972: Hebert Humphrey/George McGovern (Democrat)

1976-1984: Robert Kennedy/Jimmy Carter (Democrat) [3]
1976: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford (Republican)
1980: George Bush/Howard Baker (Republican)

1984-1988: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (Republican) [4]

1984: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (Democrat)
1988-1996: Ted Kennedy/Bill Clinton (Democrat) [5]
1988: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (Republican)
1992: Dan Quayle/Pat Buchanan (Republican)

1996-2001: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democrat) [6]
1996: Elizabeth Dole/Dick Cheney (Republican)
2001-2009: Kim Jong-Un/George W. Bush (Republican) [7]
2000: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democrat)
2004: John Kerry/John Edwards (Democrat)

2009-2013: Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democrat) [8]
2008: John McCain/Sarah Palin (Republican)
2013-2021: Hillary Rodham Goldwater Weld Bush Nixon Rockefeller Kennedy Cohn Snoop-Dog Lewinsky Trump Sanders Rubio Cruz Harambe Cameron Oliver Putin McCain Obama Pence Washington Chafee Carter Hamilton Simpson Dean Bee O'Malley Kerry Carter Kemp Miller Biden Kaine Cuomo Warren Perot Stewart Colbert Johnson Stein Brown Ryan DeBlasio Weiner Christie Agnew Cronkite Anderson Mecham Burr Edwards Abiden Comey Khan Ceaser Flowers Tsongas McConnell Kasich Al-Assad Huntsman Gingrich Gabbard Jefferson Adams Irwin Penn Gore Dole Filmore Romney Baldwin Thande Jong-Un/Jeb Bush (Republican) [9]
2012: Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democrat)
2016: Bernie Sanders/Tim Kaine (Democrat)

[1] JFK don'ts getus in Vietnam, protesters love him but they don;'t protest. but kennedy have affar with Marlyin monroe so people no like him no more
[2] i just chose rockefeller becase he moderate unlike the facist republican of today and he was renner up. he choose ronald Reagan so he get conservative vote of the conservatives. Rocekfeller is origonal guys? Rockefeller makes a liberal gop for the rest of time. he best president as he had no wategate
[3] Bobby kennedy not kill by Shiran Siran. he win democratic primary over Jerry "MOONBEAM" BROWN AND ALSO MO UDALL AND GEROGE WALLACE! GEORGE WALLACE WAS BAD AS ADAM RUINS EVERYTHING SAID SO AND HE IS ALLWAYS RIGHT! HE PICK JIMMY CARTER as running mate he be a good pick to get the south. he is also the best president tied with jfk and rockefeller and groerge Washington. lol.

[4] No one ever uses bob Dole in they're timeline so he is unqiue, and pick Jakck Kemp FOOTBALL PLAYER AND ALSO THE MAN HE PCIKED IN 1996 AS HIS RUNNING MATE. dole ba d presient as he declare war on ussr. lol. he establish distatorship with donald rumsfeld AND DICK CHENEY. no one like him so he voted out. worser than Trump.
[5] So we have John Kennedy Booby Kennedy so we need one more the people said, as everyone loves the Kennedies. Ted kennedy have no Chapquiddddifckkkk scandal so he win beating MICHAEL "TANK MAN" DUKAKIS AND EVEN JESSE "HYMIE TOWN" JACKSON. Paul Simon got two vote by someone who thought he was the signer Paul Simon. ted kennedy is also the goodest President and he ends dictatorship and he kicks out eveyone in it.
[6] Bill Clinton was allways gonna be president, but he don;t marry Hillary. she bad. He marry MARGRET THACTER SO SHE BECOMES A LEADING INFULENCE OF THE ADMINATRATION. he not as good so poeple want change as he lose North Korea war.
[7] KIM JONH-UN AND HIS WIFE HILLARY win the 2000 decided by 1 vote in florida just like IRL :(. Gore really won BTW. ANWAYS, he picked dUbya as running mate and has good presientcy.
[8] The corrupt banker at Wall Street make the reecession happenin 2008, so Obama (who was going to be president NO MATTER WHAT HE WAS THE GREATESST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME TRUMP SUCKS BRO OBAMA WAS BETTER) and "CRAZY UNCLE" JOE BIDEN wins the election on "HOPE AND CHANGE" AND "OBAMACARE". but tea party no like him, and they are jerks to him Mitch McConnell block the appointment of the Supereme courty on the supereme courty.
[9] Fun fact. Hillary Clinton was republican. That why she lost BERNIE WOULD HAVE WON THE ELECTION. but i like the creative ideas on how people come up with alternate hillary clinton marriges so i wanted to do my own ORIGONAL IDEA! she bad president, as she rig the election against BERNIE SANDERS!
 
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woweed - Wallace '44
1941-1945: Franklin Delano Roosevelt/Henry A. Wallace.
1945-1949: Henry A. Wallace/vacant.
1949-1957:
Thomas E. Dewey/Earl Warren.
1957-1965: Adlai Stevenson II/Herbert H. Humphrey.
1965-1969: Herbert H. Humphrey/Estes Kefauver.
1969-???: George Romney/Richard Nixon
 
Nofix - Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck: Alphabetical Dealings
I just fucking realized, this is almost in alphabetical order:

Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck

1985-1993: Arch Moore (Republican)
1993-1997: Bob Wise (Democratic)
1997-2001: Cecil Underwood (Republican)
2001-2002: Gaston Caperton (Democratic)*
2002-2005: Earl Ray Tomblin (Democratic)**
2005-2013: Jim Justice (Republican)
2013-20??: Joe Manchin (Democratic)


* Resigned to be appointed to Senate seat.
** Senate President and first in line to become Governor.

How'd I miss this perfect opportunity? If I had just swapped Gaston and Tomblin....oh screw it:

Shuffling a Coal-Covered Deck: Alphabetical Dealings

1985-1993: Arch Moore (Republican)
1993-1997: Bob Wise (Democratic)
1997-2000: Cecil Underwood (Republican)*

-2000-2001: Earl Ray Tomblin (Democratic)**
2001-2005: Gaston Caperton (Democratic)
2005-2013: Jim Justice (Republican)
2013-20??: Joe Manchin (Democratic)

*Died in office due to heart attack
** Senate President and first in line to become Governor. Served the remaining seven months of Underwoods term and did not contest the election.
 
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