List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

[Hydrons (Retired Account)]

Adams, the First (Part I)

1. John Adams (1789-1801) Federalist George Clinton (1789-1797) Thomas Jefferson (1797-1801) Democratic-Republican
2. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1813) Aaron Burr (1801-1805) John Breckinridge[1] (1805-1806) Vacant (1806-1809) James Madison (1809-1813) Democratic-Republican
3. DeWitt Clinton / Jared Ingersoll (1813-1817) DR/F
4. Rufus King / John E. Howard (1817-1825) Union
5. Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (Democratic) 1825-1833
6. Henry Clay / John Sergeant (1833-1837) Union
7. William Henry Harrison / Francis Granger (1837-1841) Union
8. John Tyler / James K. Polk (1841-1845) Democratic
9. Theodore Frelinghuysen / John Davis (1845-1853) Union

 

[nezza]

Working Together

Roy Jenkins (Lab/Lib) 1974-1977
Jenkins became Labour Leader in 1970 after Wilson quit (ITTL he keeps his welsh accent)
Hung Parliament in Feb 74 leads to coalition government with Liberals under Thorpe as Dep PM and Chancellor

Roy Jenkins 1977-1979
Thorpe resigned in '77 as a result of Scott affair. David Steel becomes Dep PM and Chancellor

William Whitelaw (Con-UUP) 1979-1985
Tories form coalition UUP. Stronger action taken in NI. Pact collapses in 85 as result of Anglo-Irish Agreement

 

[JDGiant]

A Springboarded Australian Prime Ministership:

1945-1957: Thomas Playford IV (Liberal and Country)
1957-1962: Joseph Cahill (Labor)
1962-1971: Frank Nicklin (Liberal and Country)
1971-1973: David Brand (Liberal and Country)
1973-1982: Don Dunstan (Labor)
1982-1988: Joh Bjelke-Petersen (Liberal and National)
1988-1993: John Cain (Labor)
1993-2000: Michael Field (Labor)
2000-2008: Jeff Kennett (Liberal and National)
2008-2011: Bob Carr (Labor)
2011-2014: Richard Court (Liberal and National)
2014-present: Peter Beattie (Labor)

 

[fdh256]

How the hell did a pretty left wing government like New Labour end up in coalition with the Tories of all people. I'm sure that would end well (the other two make a world of sense), they'd be almost certainly better off with a New Labour - Liberal Alliance.

Also Peters entering a coalition with a Maori Party (one he led no less), the man would have a fit if his party decided that.

Don't want to divert the thread too much, but if you'd read the footnotes, you'd find that the NLP and Conservatives broadly correspond to Old Labour and Muldoonites respectively, who would rather work with each other than with outright ideological neoliberals - as in OTL, with NZ First choosing Labour twice over National, and a fair amount of National members leaving in the early 90s and ending up in the Alliance.

Would also suggest that you don't know Winston - or Maori politics - very well.

 

[X_X]

Swapping Fate, 68

Nixon, not Bobby is assassinated in this timeline.

36(second term): Lyndon B Johnson/Hubert Humphrey(1965-1969)
-Election of 1968: Robert F Kennedy/George McGovern(Democrat) vs Ronald Reagan/George Romney(Republican) vs George Wallace/Curtis LeMay(American Independent)
37(first term): Robert F Kennedy/George McGovern(1969-1973)
-Election of 1972: Robert F Kennedy/George McGovern(Democrat) vs Nelson Rockefeller/Strom Thurmond(Republican)
37(second term): Robert F Kennedy/George McGovern(1973-1977)
-Election of 1976: Henry M Jackson/Jimmy Carter(Democrat) vs Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms(Republican)
38(first term): Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms(1977-1981)
-Election of 1980: Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms(Republican) vs George McGovern/Walter Mondale(Democrat)
38(second term): Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms(1981-1985)
-Election of 1985: Bob Dole/Geraldine Ferraro(Republican) vs Jesse Jackson/Henry Cisneros(Democrat)
39(first term): Jesse Jackson/Henry Cisneros(1985-1989)
-Election of 1988: Jesse Jackson/Henry Cisneros(Democrat) vs Alexander Haig/Bill Armstrong(Republican)
40(first term): Alexander Haig/Bill Armstrong(1989-1993)
-Election of 1992: Alexander Haig/Bill Armstrong(Republican) vs Eugene McCarthy/Al Gore(Democrat) vs Rupert Murdoch/Donald Trump(Independent)
40(second term): Alexander Haig/Bill Armstrong(1993-1997)

Abridged list
* Died
** Assassinated

• 37: Robert F Kennedy/George McGovern(1969-1977)
• 38: Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms(1977-1985)
• 39: Jesse Jackson/Henry Cisneros(1985-1989)
• 40: Alexander Haig/Bill Armstrong(1989-1997)

Murdoch’s Australian and thus cannot legally run.

 

[Chapman]

Murdoch’s Australian and thus cannot legally run.

Can't legally hold the Presidency, not the same as not being able to run.

 

[redjirachi]

Sorry about that, I was just trying to find someone to replace Ross Perot, besides Trump because he may not be motivated without Reagan

I've been seeing what happens in three or more combatant elections when the losers get an extra <5% state swap in their favor, to see if it can be thrown to H.R. This is what I got. What I'm wondering is who would the House of Representatives likely choose for president and vice president in these scenarios, so I can try and build my alternate president list from them

• 1836: Van Buren 120, Harrison 115, White 34, Webster 14, Mangum 11 (148 needed to win)
• 1856: Buchanan 145, Fremont 125, Fillmore 26 (149 needed to win)
• 1892: Cleveland 193, Harrison 218, Weaver 33 (223 needed to win)
• 1948: Truman 230, Dewey 262, Thurmond 39 (266 needed to win)
• 1968: Nixon 240, Humphrey 241, Wallace 57 (270 needed to win)

 

[Luke_Starkiller]

Fear, Loathing, and Mothman on the Campaign Trail '12

2009-2013: Sen. Barack Obama (DEM-IL)
VP: Sen. Joe Biden (DEM-DE)
-def. 2008: Sen. John McCain (REP-AZ)/Gov. Sarah Palin (REP-AK)

2013-2017: Sen. Jim DeMint (REP-SC) [1]
VP: Rep. Artur Davis (WOR-AL)
-def. 2012: Pres. Barack Obama (DEM-IL)/Vice Pres. Joe Biden (DEM-DE); Sen. Joe Manchin (WOR-WV)/Rep. Artur Davis (WOR-AL) [2]

2017-2019: Vice Pres. Artur Davis (WOR-AL)
VP: vacant [3]
-def. 2016: Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr. Sec. Ken Salazar (D-CO); Pres. Jim DeMint (REP-SC)/Sen. Rob Portman (REP-OH)

2019-2021: Speaker of the House Steny Hoyer (DEM-MD) [4]
VP: vacant

2021-2026: Gov. Lisa Madigan (DEM-IL) [5]
VP: Sen. Chris Murphy (DEM-CT)
-def. 2020: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Sen. Mitch Daniels (R-IN); Sen. Russ Feingold (WOR-NM)/Gov. John Bel Edwards (WOR-LA)
-def. 2024: Sen. Maj. Leader Rand Paul (R-KY)/Gov. Frank Suarez (R-FL); Gov. Tim Ryan (WOR-OH)/Rep. Rob Quist (WOR-MT)

2026-2029: Vice Pres. Chris Murphy (DEM-CT) [6]
VP: vacant; Gov. Keith Ellison (DEM-MN)

2029-present: Major Richard Ojeda (WOR-WV) [7]
VP: Gov. Cheri Bustos (WOR-IL): 2029-2033 [8]; Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (WOR-HI): 2033-present
-def. 2028: Pres. Chris Murphy (DEM-CT)/Vice Pres. Keith Ellison (DEM-MN); House Min. Leader Justin Amash (REP-MI); Fmr. Gov. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (REP-WA)
-def. 2032: Gov. Adam Kinzinger (REP-IL)/Sen. Jamie Hererra Beutler (REP-WA); Sen. Kamala Harris (DEM-CA)/Gov. Beto O'Rourke (DEM-TX)
-def. 2036: Sen. Will Hurd (REP-TX)/Sen. Brian Sandoval (REP-NV); Gov. Seth Moulton (DEM-MA)/Sen. Ruben Gallego (DEM-AZ); Dr. Cornel West (IND-OK)/Gov. David Zuckerman (IND-VT)

1. Sen. DeMint won the electoral vote after a contingent election in the House, but his running mate, Gov. Mitch Daniels, lost in the Senate to Senator Manchin's running mate, Rep. Artur Davis due to a compromise deal struck up between centrist democrats and the GOP.

2. Senator Manchin broke off from the Democratic Party to run against President Obama, who, to him, was endangering the livelihoods of real Americans with his liberal policies and the lives of our soldiers with his ineffective foreign policy (which saw Osama Bin Laden escaping yet again)

3. Vice President Davis defeated President DeMint, however, the Senate's vote on the Vice President was deadlocked between Gov. Schweitzer of the Working Families Party, Fmr. Sec. Salazar of the Democrats, and Sen. Portman of the Republicans. As a result, President Davis never had a Vice President, which proved fatal when he was killed by a white supremacist in 2019.

4. Without a Vice President to ascend to the Oval, Speaker Hoyer became the Acting President of the United States. His only major contribution was the institution of the National Popular Vote, which was designed to prevent debacles as seen in the past two elections from happening again.

5. Predictably, the winner of the NPV was a Democrat, Governor Madigan of Illinois. The U.S. enjoyed a few years of stability, until it was revealed that President Madigan was complicit in many of her father's illegal schemes during his time in Illinois politics. She resigned in 2026, leaving Vice President Murphy to face an uncertain future.

6. President Murphy was doomed from the start, having become a modern Gerald Ford. Much like President Ford, he, too, became saddled with the worst economy the U.S. had faced in decades. The 2028 recession damned his chances of re-election, and unknowingly damned America to the future that lay ahead.

7. President Ojeda was a major figure in WFP politics, even if he only held his congressional seat for six years before he left, disgruntled at the toxicity of Washington. However, as the economy plummeted, he believed that it was time for him to step up and defend his country from economic injustice and political corruption. What he lacked, however, was self-awareness. His victory in 2028 now looks less like a landslide and more like a coup. Shortly after the economy got back on track, President Ojeda pushed the newly-nationalized and revitalized manufacturing industries to assist the military in its crusade against Chinese expansion in South America. What could've been "only" another Vietnam in Venezuela erupted into World War III, at which point, President Ojeda moved to rescind the 22nd Amendment. With his only opposition being the cobalt-blue coastal clusters of House Democrats, President Ojeda effectively became President For Life.

8. Vice President Bustos decided not to run alongside the President in 2032 once it became clear to her that the commander-in-chief was a raving megalomaniac with a blue-collar Messiah complex. He swiftly replaced her with Senator Gabbard of Hawaii, an objectively less sane choice.

This post is dedicated to Richard Ojeda, who's a fucking nut if he thinks he'll get more than 12 votes in the 2020 Dem Primary.

 

[Spens1]

Don't want to divert the thread too much, but if you'd read the footnotes, you'd find that the NLP and Conservatives broadly correspond to Old Labour and Muldoonites respectively, who would rather work with each other than with outright ideological neoliberals - as in OTL, with NZ First choosing Labour twice over National, and a fair amount of National members leaving in the early 90s and ending up in the Alliance.

Would also suggest that you don't know Winston - or Maori politics - very well.

Could be but i thought Winston hated the idea of Maori seats in general and wanted them abolished and said Maori Party is in because of it.

so the Conservatives aren't strict, ardent ideologists, rather somewhat similar to NZ First in the sense they are a bit more populist? also are the Libs more difficult to work with or something (in the sense they are mor rigid). Also I read your other post and i thought Old Labour ended up in the Democrats and New Labour where very ideological (in the sense they are more left wing than otl Labour).

 

[Spens1]

A Springboarded Australian Prime Ministership:

1945-1957: Thomas Playford IV (Liberal and Country)
1957-1962: Joseph Cahill (Labor)
1962-1971: Frank Nicklin (Liberal and Country)
1971-1973: David Brand (Liberal and Country)
1973-1982: Don Dunstan (Labor)
1982-1988: Joh Bjelke-Petersen (Liberal and National)
1988-1993: John Cain (Labor)
1993-2000: Michael Field (Labor)
2000-2008: Jeff Kennett (Liberal and National)
2008-2011: Bob Carr (Labor)
2011-2014: Richard Court (Liberal and National)
2014-present: Peter Beattie (Labor)

Yeah nah that's just messed up. Joh, Carr and Beattie........ that's rough

 

[Anarcho-Occultist]

Reagan, Kennedy, Same Difference
Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush 1981-1983 (Assassinated)
1980: Def. Gary Hart/Edward Kennedy
George HW Bush/vacant 1983-1985
George HW Bush/Jack Kemp 1985-1989
1984: Def. Jesse Jackson/Jerry Brown
Gary Hart/Alan Cranston 1989-1993
Gary Hart/Al Gore 1993-1994 (Resigned)
1988: Def. Jack Kemp/Bob Dole, Mike Gravel/Ralph Nader
1992: Def. Pat Buchanan/Pete Wilson
Al Gore/Sam Nunn 1994-1997
Bill Weld/Alan Keyes 1997-2001
1996: Def. Al Gore/Bernie Sanders
Larry David/Mario Cuomo 2001-2009
2000: Def. Bill Weld/Alan Keyes, Ron Paul/Russell Means
2004: Def. Alan Keyes/Condoleeza Rice
Mario Cuomo/Maxine Waters 2009-2013
2008: Def. Mitt Romney/Newt Gingrich
Jon Huntsman/Gary Johnson 2013-2021
2012: Def. Mario Cuomo/Maxine Waters, Michael Bloomberg/David Petraeus
2016: Def. Bernie Sanders/Nancy Pelosi, Michael Bloomberg/Mark Cuban
Andrew Cuomo/Wesley Clark 2021-2029
2020: Def. Gary Johnson/John Kasich, Steve Bannon/Steve King
2024: Def. Tom Cotton/Charlie Baker
Brian Sandoval/Elise Stefanik 2029-2037
2028: Def. Jason Kander/Tulsi Gabbard
2032: Def. Beau Biden/Andrew Gillum
Lena Dunham/Beto O'Rourke 2037-
2036: Def. Mary Kaye Huntsman/Dan Crenshaw

 

[redjirachi]

Happy Days For The Happy Warrior

There's no assassination of Bobby Kennedy or any major contender, or even M.L.K But Humphrey still gets the nomination...and this time around he wins. Nixon decides not to pursue the presidency again

36(second term): Lyndon B Johnson/Hubert Humphrey(1965-1969)
-Election of 1968: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(Democrat) vs Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew(Republican) vs George Wallace/Curtis LeMay(American Independent)
37(first term): Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(1969-1973)
-Election of 1972: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(Democrat) vs Nelson Rockefeller/John Tower(Republican) vs George Wallace/Strom Thurmond(American Indpendent)
37(second term): Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(Democrat)
-Election of 1976: Robert F Kennedy/Jimmy Carter(Democrat) vs Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole(Republican)
38(first term): Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole(1977-1981)
-Election of 1980: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole(Republican) vs Ted Kennedy/Walter Mondale(Democrat)
38(second term): Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole(1981-1985)
-Election of 1984: George HW Bush/Larry Pressler(Republican) vs Gary Hart/Dianne Feinstein(Democrat)
39(first term): Gary Hart/Dianne Feinstein(1985-1989)
-Election of 1988: Gary Hart/Dianne Feinstein(Democrat) vs Alexander Haig/Pat Robertson(Republican)
40(first term): Alexander Haig/Pat Robertson(1989-1993)
-Election of 1992: Alexander Haig/Jeb Bush(Republican) vs Paul Tsongas/Al Gore(Democrat) vs Donald Trump/George W Bush(Independent)
40(second term): Alexander Haig/Jeb Bush(1993-1997)


Abridged list

• 36: Lyndon B Johnson(1963-1969)/Hubert Humphrey(1965-1969)
• 37: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie(1969-1977)[1]
• 38: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole(1977-1985)[2]
• 39: Gary Hart/Dianne Feinstein(1985-1989)[3]
• 40: Alexander Haig(1989-1997)/Pat Robertson(1989-1993), Jeb Bush(1993-1997)[4]

[1] Humphrey won re-election pretty easily, though not to the extent of Nixon. Mainly because he handled Vietnam better, though to compensate he's less savvy when it comes to China. Maybe. I dunno, what do you think Humphrey as president would be like?
[2] Reagan sat down '72 because he figured he wouldn't be able to beat Humphrey. As there is a happier 70s, the malaise doesn't occur and he manages to get re-elected. RFK doesn't become president in this timeline even if he's still alive, though he does have a successful career until he passes away in 2008
[3] While there isn't an affair, Haig still wins by targeting his relative youth and toting his experience under alternate president Reagan
[4] Haig switches veeps. Awkwardness ensues when the third party effort chooses famous comedic actor and cowboy George W Bush, Jeb's brother, as his running mate

 

[Luke_Starkiller]

Fear, Loathing, and Mothman II: The Splintered Era

The United American Workers' Republic
Capital: White Sulphur Springs, WV
Presidents:
-Major Richard Ojeda (WFP-WV): 2037-2059*
-Vice President Tulsi Gabbard (WFP-WV): 2059-present
*Died, causing Vice President Gabbard to serve out the rest of his "term"

The Atlantic Commonwealth
Capital: Boston, MA
Presidents:
-Former U.S. Senator Joe P. Kennedy III (Liberal-MA): 2037-2045
-Gov. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (Social Democratic-NY): 2045-2049
-Sen. Thomas Kean, Jr. (Whig-NJ): 2049-2053
-Sen. Michael Nutter (Liberal-PH): 2053-present

The Exalted Union of Deseret
Capital: Provo, UT
Highest Elders:
-Former U.S. Senator Mike Lee (Deseret National-UT): 2037-2052
-Governor Tagg Romney (Deseret National-UT): 2052-present

The Frontier Republic of Texas
Capital: Dallas, TX
Presidents:
-Fmr. Gov. Beto O'Rourke (Union-TX, later Liberal-TX): 2037-2043
-Gov. Will Hurd (Conservative-TX): 2043-2049
-Gov. Jared Polis (Liberal-CO): 2049-2053
-Sen. Aubrey Dunn (Conservative-NM): 2053-2059
-Fmr. Gov. Julian Castro (Liberal-TX): 2059-present

The Exiled United States of America
Capital: Bethesda, MD
Presidents:
-Former President Barack Obama (Continuity-IL): 2037-2045
-Former President Chris Murphy (Continuity-CT): 2045-2053
-Former Speaker of the House Jim Himes (Continuity-CT): 2053-present

The United Republic of Pacifica
Capital: Sacramento, NCA
Presidents:
-Gov. London Breed (Pacific Freedom-NCA): 2037-2045
-Sen. Eric Garcetti (Pacific Freedom-SCA): 2045-2049
-Commerce Sec. Travis Kalanick (Enterprise-WA): 2049-2057
-Former Sec. of State Ted Lieu (Pacific Freedom-SCA): 2057-present

The State of Alaska
Capital: Juneau
Premiers:
-Fmr. Gov. Valerie Davidson (United Alaska): 2037-2047
-Vice Premier Jacob Begich (United Alaska): 2047-2052
-Senate Majority Leader Mike Dunleavy (Conservative): 2052-2057
-Senator Jonathan Kreiss-Tompkins (Progressive): 2057-present

The State of Hawai'i
Capital: Honolulu
Governors:
-Former U.S. Sen. Brian Schatz (Aloha Ai'na): 2037-2044
*Instated as Emergency Governor until voluntary resignation following the 2044 Rising Sea Crisis that led to the State of Hawai'i becoming a refugee colony within AC borders.

The Christian Republic of America
Capital: Montgomery
Presidents:
-Gov. Chris McDaniels (Christian People's-AL): 2037-2053
-Senator Ian Michael Espy (People's Labor-MS): 2053-2054*
-President of the Senate Micah Moore (Christian People's-AL): 2054-present
*"Mysteriously disappeared" on account of being black

The Southern Free Republic of Florida and Georgia
Capital: Jacksonville
Presidents:
-Former Gov. Andrew Gillum (Progressive-SFL): 2037-2045
-Vice Pres. Stacy Abrams (Progressive-GA): 2045-2053
-Senator Frank Suarez (Republican-SFL): 2053-present

 

[Anarcho-Occultist]

Da Neue Gipp-uh (Or "Natural-born? What does that mean?")
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 2009-2013
2008: Def. Dick Cheney/Sam Brownback
Arnold Schwarzenegger/Mitt Romney 2013-2021
2012: Def. Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Ron Paul/Gary Johnson
2016: Def. Joe Biden/Amy Klobucher
Mitt Romney/Sarah Palin 2021-2025
2020: Def. Andrew Cuomo/Joe Manchin
Beto O'Rourke/Krysten Sinema 2025-2033
2024: Def. Mitt Romney/Sarah Palin, Mark Zuckerberg/Dwayne Johnson
2028: Def. Sam Brownback/Rick Scott, Mark Zuckerberg/John Hickenlooper
Tagg Romney/Tom Cotton 2033-2041
2032: Def. Krysten Sinema/Charlie Crist, John Eder/Tulsi Gabbard
2036: Def. Amy McGrath/Jared Polis
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez/Gavin Newsom 2041-2049
2040: Def. Dan Crenshaw/Donald Trump, Jr.
2044: Def. George P. Bush/Justin Amash
Chris Pratt/CJ Pearson 2049-
2048: Def. Amy Hoover Sanders/Julia Salazar

 

[LordRedVine]

Would also suggest that you don't know Winston - or Maori politics - very well.

As is usual when discussing both

Da Neue Gipp-uh (Or "Natural-born? What does that mean?")

I’m a simple man. I see Ahnold as the Gipper, I click.

 

[Cevolian]

"Equity in Justice"


- motto of the Second Mexican Empire​

Second Mexican Empire (1864-1910)

1864-1908: Maximilian I (Hapsburg-Lorraine)
1908-1909: Victor I (Habsburg-Lorraine)
1909-1910: Napoléon I (Bonaparte)

That the Second Mexican Empire survived is an historical miracle. A weak state propped up by the Second French Empire (which collapsed in 1870) and the Confederate States of America (which collapsed in 1898), it managed to survive another 12 years after the demise of its benefactors, in no small part due to the popularity of Maximilian I's reforms, his devout Catholic nationalism, and his sublimation of the interests of local elites to his own. With the death of the childless Maximilian, however, the throne was taken by his younger brother Ludwig Viktor (due to the refusal to take the throne of Frank Josef I or his nephew Frank Ferdinand), the notoriously philandering homosexual archduke, who reluctantly took the throne as Victor I under the orders of his brother who hoped to create a de facto Austrian puppet in place of the stranded former French colony. An unpopular spendthrift from the start, Victor I was deposed by the military and executed in 1909, triggering a succession crisis which ultimately ended with the right to the throne traced to "Napoleon IV" through the former Hapsburg French Empress Maria. Though the Bonapartists had managed to take power back in Mexico, a military plan to establish a puppet regime in the Republic of Texas ended in military humiliation and the fall of the military junta which had backed the use of "Napoleon I" as a puppet, culminating in the disestablishment of the empire.

Third Mexican Republic (1910-1920)

1910-1910: Francesco I. Madero (Nonpartisan)
1910-1918: Ramón Corral (National Republican Party)
1910 def. Francesco I. Madero (Constitutional Democrats), Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte (Imperial)
1918-1920: Luis Terrazas (National Republican Party)
1918 def. Emiliano Zapata (Justice and Democracy), Francesco I. Madero (Constitutional Democrats), Álvaro Obregón (Laborist Party)

The Republic which followed the Second Empire, however, was marked not by its radicalism but by its conservatism. With the Constitutional Convention electing moderate constitutionalist Madero as Acting President in 1910, it pursued a "progressive conservative" agenda, creating a powerful Presidency limited to a single eight year term, and a weak legislature elected once every four years. Power passed peacefully from Madero's Comstitutional Democrats to the conservative National Republican Party in December 1910, and for eight years the moderate conservative presidency of Ramón Corral saw the sidelining of the old imperial forces (who won less than 5% of the vote in 1910 with Napoléon I having fled to England) and the seizure of power by conservative landowning elites. Corral was succeeded peacefully by Luis Terrazas in 1918, and although Zapata and his allies accused him of "buying the election" there was little anti-electoral violence after the election. What killed the Third Republic was, instead, a foreign war in which Mexico had played no role. The "War for the World" had begun over a crisis at Agadir in 1911, but over the course of 1911-1916 had claimed millions of lives, including those of many Americans as the Second American Republic had waged a war of reconquest against the German backed Second Confederacy, Republic of Texas, and Louisiana Free State. The war had bloodily reunited the former USA, but it led to the toppling of Presidenr Taft in 1917 after a popular revolution: hijacked by radical syndicalists, the revolution culminated in the formation of the "American Industrial Commonwealth" in 1918 and war with Mexico later that year as part of Jack Reed's doctrine of "Perpetual Workers' Revolution". The Conservative Mexican forces collapsed in late 1920, and a syndicalist regime was imposed.

Mexican Industrial Federation

1920-1934: Antonio Díaz Soto y Gama (Industrial Revolutionary Party)
1920 (Industrial Congress Election) def. Emiliano Zapata (IRP 'Agrarians')
1925 (Industrial Congress Election) def. Emiliano Zapata (IRP 'Agrarians')
1930 (Industrial Congress Election) def. effectively unopposed
1934-1936: Luis Napoléon Marones (Industrial Revolutionary Party - Acting Leadership)
1935 (Industrial Congress Election) suspended
1936-1964: Luis Napoléon Marones (Industrial Revolutionary Party)
1964-1967: Alberado L. Rodriguez (Industrial Revolutionary Party)
1967-1979: Manuel Manrique (Industrial Revolutionary Party)
1967 (National Election) def. effectively unopposed
1977 (National Election) def. effectively unopposed
1979-0000: Paulina Zapata-Manrique (Syndicalist Workers' Party)

The Syndicalist regime began with the best of intentions, and though some "irregularities" were recorded in the 1920 and 1925 IC elections, the New Mexican state was a genuine workers' democracy in the model of the Reed and Cannon regimes to the North. This would change with Gama's assassination in 1934 and the rise of Marones, a vicious, careerist Union boss who consolidated power under an "Emergency Government" (which maintained the pretences of restoring democracy to avoid the intervention of the Citizens' Revolutionary Army from the AIC). Then, in 1936, Earl Browder seized de facto dictatorial power in the AIC, and Marones quickly moved to align himself to the Browderist regime, culminating in the formation of the "Free North American Army" combining Mexican and AIC forces under Browder's supreme command. When the AIC went to war with the British led League of Nations in 1942, Marones contributed troops to the invasion of Canada, and even to the abortive landing in Ireland of 1944. With the war ending in a stalemate and a "Silent War" commencing between the Franco-British Union and Russian Republic on one side and the "Alliance of Industrial Republics" (the AIC, her Latin American client states, and the Japanese Workers' Republic), Marones' Mexico became a vital AIC ally. Marones would die in 1964, and power would pass briefly to the weak conservative Rodriguez, until he was removed by a Zapatista coup in Mexico City in 1967. Ruling through her husband for the next ten years, Paulina Zapata-Manrique cautiously toed the line enforced by the government in Debbs N.C. whilst pursuing quiet agrarian reform. However, when President McGovern died in 1978, the AIC entered into a protracted power struggle, collapsing in 1979 with the proclamation of a "New Democracy" by External Affairs Secretary Jeane Kirkpatrick (elected President at the head of the National Democratic Party in 1980). Zapata-Manrique quickly removed her husband from power and assumed the authority of First Director of the Mexican Workers in 1979, and the controversial Agricultural Revolution began. It's effects are still being felt in war-torn post-Syndicalist Mexico today, almost two decades since the collapse of the Neo-Zapatiste regime.

 

[Hydrons (Retired Account)]

Ike Gipper

1981-1989: Ronald Reagan / George H. W. Bush (Republican)
1989-1991: Ted Kennedy[1] / Lloyd Bensten (Democratic)
1991-1997: Lloyd Bensten / Vacant 1991-1993, Paul Wellstone 1993-1997 (Democratic)
1997-2002: George H. W. Bush[3] / Dick Cheney[2] 1997-2001, Vacant 2001, Dennis Hastert 2001-2002 (Republican)
2002-2005: Dennis Hastert / Vacant 2002, George Pataki 2002-2005 (Republican)
2005-2009: John Edwards / Mark Dayton (Democratic)
2009-2017: Mike Huckabee / Mitt Romney (Republican)
2017-2021: Mitt Romney / Mike Pence (Republican)
2021-2029: John Bel Edwards / Martin O' Malley (Democratic)
2029-2037: Tagg Romney / Ben Sasse (Republican)
2037-2045: Alexandria Ocasio Cortez / Beau Biden (Democratic)
2037-2045: Donald Trump Jr. / Ron DeSantis (Republican)

 

[Luke_Starkiller]

List of Hosts of "The Gong Show"

"The Gong Show": 1976-1980
1976-1980: Chuck Barris
The original host of the Gong Show during its initial four-year run. Considered by many (read: your grandparents) to be the best host of America's favorite surrealist talent show.

"The New Gong Show": 1985-1989
1985-1988: Al Franken
The mid-eighties revival saw SNL alum and current host of the Late Show Al Franken step into Barris's shoes. He's known for playing the role of the host much more differently, being a deadpan counter to the insane antics of the show and often exuding a perplexed vibe. He left after his three-year contract was finished, as the network refused to pay him what he was asking.

1988-1989: Dennis Miller
In an attempt to capture the magic of Al Franken, the producers cast another SNL alum. However, much like his time on Weekend Update, he was failed to come close to the precedent set before him. He alternated between Barris's goading and Franken's near-disdain, inadvertently creating an unlikable persona as the host. His casting is often considered to be one of the major reasons for the Gong Show's second cancellation

"Gong Show: Live and Unrated!": 1993-1994
1993-1994: Howard Stern
A new, edgier decade required a new, edgier Gong Show and thus a new, edgier host. The excitement surrounding the concept of a gong show revival with even cruder and more outlandish contestants (can you say "Popsicle Twins"?) was palpable, but ratings failed to turn out, dooming Stern's tenure as host to be almost as short as Dennis Miller's.

"The Gong Show (2005)": 2005-2013
2005-2008: Dave Chappelle
Dave Chappelle has largely been credited with turning the seventies hit into the ratings juggernaut it is today. Combining the sheer hilarity of the Stern-era acts with the looser censors of Comedy Central and Chappelle's cool disposition (not that he wasn't constantly confused by the insanity going on around him) was a recipe for success. By 2008, NBC had decided that TGS made Comedy Central worth buying and turning into their "Comedy Central" late night block, occupying the precious space before SNL every Saturday night. The show had turned Chappelle from a successful comedian in his own right into a household name, and in 2008, he opted not to renew his contract and left for greener pastures.

2008-2011: Maya Rudolph
Thus began (or rather, returned) the era of The Gong Show being used as a launchpad for SNL alum. Unlike Franken and Miller's tenures, however, NBC was using the show as a direct pipeline to determine who was worthy of their own Late Night show or TV show. Maya Rudolph was a likable host, but was overshadowed by her predecessor. She was very similar to Barris in terms of how she handled the hosting gig, but again, comparisons to Chappelle have left her viewed as a second fiddle. She also opted not to renew her three-year contract, and left to star alongside Amy Poehler in the sitcom "Public Service".

2011-2013: Anthony Weiner
Ahh, Anthony Weiner. At least Dennis Miller had the luxury of only being considered to be his installation's downfall; Weiner, unfortunately, actually was. The former partner-in-crime and fellow SNL alum of Jon Stewart and star of the "Carlos Danger: International Man of Mystery" movie series was made the host of TGS after Rudolph's departure. However, midway through the 2013 season, allegations of Weiner sexting a minor were brought to light, which threw the show into an absolute state of disarray, ending in its premature cancellation and Weiner's arrest for possession of child pornography.

"Return of The Gong Show": 2017-present
2017-present: Eric Andre
Fresh off of the fourth and final season of "The Eric Andre Show" and "The Eric Andre Movie", Eric Andre was hoping to lay low for a little while. However, similarly to how you can't take the fight out of the dog, you can't take the fight out of whatever Eric actually is when he isn't pretending to be human. A late-night smoke session gave Eric the idea to revive America's favorite un-talent show, and as the host of the premier anti-talk show, he was just the man to host. Though this run is in it's fledgling years, Eric seems to be redefining the show by breaking the mold and being the only to host to be as weird as the performers.

 

[Baconheimer]

I'm not entirely sure what this is. But here it is.

1st Constitution - four year terms, two maximum (after 1951)
1961-1963: John F. Kennedy * / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
def. 1960 Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson / VACANT (Democratic)
1963-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
def. 1964 William Scranton / Walter Judd (Republican)
1969-1974: Richard Nixon * / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
def. 1968 George Wallace / Edmund Muskie (Democratic), Eugene McCarthy / Benjamin Spock (Peace)
def. 1972 George Wallace / Ted Kennedy (Democratic), Strom Thurmond / Bruce Bennett (Independent Democratic)
1974-1977: Nelson Rockefeller / VACANT (Republican)
1977-1981: Ted Kennedy / Philip Hart (Democratic)
def. 1976 James Buckley / Louis Wyman (National Conservative), Nelson Rockefeller / Gerald Ford (Republican), Albert Watson / Jamie Whitten (Constitution)
1981-1985: Ronald Reagan / George Bush (Republican)
def. 1980 Ted Kennedy / Philip Hart (Democratic), Oral Roberts / William Dyke (Crusade), Bobby Fischer / Robert Laxalt (National Conservative)
1985-1993: Billy Graham / Fritz Hollings (Democratic Crusade)
def. 1984 Ronald Reagan / George Bush (Republican), Jesse Jackson / Harry Hay (PUSH)
def. 1988 Martin Luther King Jr. / Joe Skeen (Republican Crusade), Lowell Weicker / Mario Cuomo (National Union), Ron Paul / Andre Marrou (Libertarian), Allen Ginsburg / Sam Sloan (Independent)
1993-1997: Pat Robertson / George Moscone (Democratic Crusade)
def. 1992 Ed Koch / Mo Udall (National Union), Phil Gramm / Fred Upton (Republican Crusade)
1997-2003: Bill Clinton ** / Arlen Specter (National Union)
def. 1996 Pat Robertson / George Moscone (Democratic Crusade), Pat Buchanan / Steve Forbes (Republican Crusade), Frank Murkowski / Fred Upton (Independent Republican)
def. 2000 Albion Knight / John Danforth (United Crusade)
2003-2005: Arlen Specter / VACANT (National Union)
2005-2009: Jim Webb / Spencer Abraham (New Republican)
def. 2004 Mark Dayton / Charlie Crist (National Union), Hillary Rodham / Roy Moore (United Crusade)
2009-2013: Chuck Hagel / Tim Kaine (National Union)
def. 2008 Chuck Baldwin / Steve Largent (Advance!), Mark Sanford / Bruce Rauner (New Republican)
def. 2012 John Teichert / Katie Arrington (Advance!), Joshua Wander / Claude Allen (Continuity New Republican)

2nd Constitution - six year terms, one maximum, majority of popular vote required for election
2013-2014: Chuck Hagel / Tim Kaine (National Union) - INTERIM -
2014-2020: William Weld / Ray Mabus (National Union)
def. 2013 First Round Joel Osteen / Jeannie Haddaway (American Renovation Front), Mark Cuban / Neal Sales-Griffin (Reform), Rand Paul / Marc Allan Feldman (Libertarian), Paul Strauss / James Harris (United Socialist), Jack Fellure / Robby Wells (Prohibition)
def. 2013 Second Round Joel Osteen / Jeannie Haddaway (American Renovation Front)
2020-2026: Stacey Abrams / Lawrence Lessig (New Democracy)
def. 2019 First Round Jeff Flake / Konstantinos Roditis (National Union), Errol Galt / Artur Davis (American Renovation Front), Richard Ojeda / Knute Beuhler (New Populist), Mark Cuban / Sheila Tittle (American Anti-Metric League)
def. 2019 Second Round Jeff Flake / Konstantino Roditis (National Union)

 

[InfernoMole]

Presidential Halloweens

Just for fun and in the season of Halloween. Presidents living and dead arrive in dress-up. A game you guys can play, try to fill in the others

• George Washington: Uncle Sam. First president after all, definitive symbol of America like Washington himself
• Andrew Jackson: Vlad Tepes aka Dracula. Because he was the only world leader besides Genghis Khan more terrifying than himself, and he already looks like he has Bela Lugosi's Dracula cape in his portrait
• Martin Van Buren: The Wizard of Oz. He is the Little Magician, after all
• William Henry Harrison: The Grim Reaper. Wanted to make light on his early death
• James K Polk: The Emperor of Mankind. He was all about Manifest Destiny, which is something the Imperium brought across the galaxy
• Franklin Pierce: The Headless Horseman. Because being a drunk driver wasn't scary enough
• Theodore Roosevelt: Batman. Philanthropist, trained their bodies, generally badass...yeah he fits
• Franklin Roosevelt: Captain America. Felt the most time relevant
• Harry S Truman: Godzilla. King of Monsters represents nuclear war, he dropped the atom bombs
• John F Kennedy: James Bond. Classy, womanizer, from the 60s
• Gerald Ford: Freddy Krueger. Mainly for the pun "our long national nightmare's never going to end!"
• Ronald Reagan: Superman. He has that all-american charm to him and his fans see him one step removed from the Man of Steel after all.
• Barack Obama: Spiderman. Big fan of the franchise, and is a massive nerd in general. Also he couldn't resist it upon learning who Trump was going as
• Donald Trump: Norman Osborn/the Green Goblin. Rich businessman from New York who's more than a little crazy. He was thinking Lex Luthor, but didn't want to wear a bald cap

William Henry Harrison is the Wicked Witch of the West.