List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Perhaps Ted Cruz could work for Mike Huckabee, meanwhile Santorum picks Marco Rubio?
Thank you for the suggestion! I was thinking the exact same thing, that both would one day make the national stage. Cruz, like Palin is out of the norm, and Rubio, like Ryan will probably retain his youthful appearance in 2032. I was thinking about Rubio running for Governor of Florida in 2022, after two terms in the Senate. We'll see both of them in the Republican Party presidential primaries of 2036. Both parties will be cleared for a new generation of candidates (unless Chelsea Clinton runs for the House IOTL. Then in ATL I'll have her run against a very conservative Republican in 2036).
 
Lilac - The Bold Frontier
So this requires a lot of explanation beforehand - this list is actually a write-up of an utterly bizarre timeline called 'The Bold Frontier (j.f.k. lives)' by a random banned member.

It is literally the definition of 'shitty, poorly formatted timeline' - the POD is JFK lives and the content aside from the listing of elections is almost entirely incomprehensible or batshit crazy.
But nearly all of the presidents in it are really inspired, original picks - to the point that it's actually disconcerting that someone who seems functionally illiterate could make something even remotely this well-thought. Seriously though - it makes absolutely no sense and you should check it out.
Without further ado,


The Bold Frontier

1961-1965: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1960: Richard M. Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Republican)
1965-1969: John F. Kennedy / Albert A. Gore (Democratic)
1964: Barry M. Goldwater / Francis E. Dorn (Republican)
1969-1973: Charles H. Percy / Roman L. Hruska (Republican)
1968: Hubert H. Humphrey II / J. Terry Sanford (Democratic) George C. Wallace, Jr. / Curtis E. LeMay (American Independent)
1973-1976: Hubert H. Humphrey II / T. LeRoy Collins (Democratic)
1972: Charles H. Percy / Roman L. Hruska (Republican)
1976-1977: T. LeRoy Collins / vacant (Democratic)
1977-1981: T. LeRoy Collins / Edmund S. Muskie (Democratic)

1976: Robert J. Dole / William E. Miller (Republican)
1981-1989: Howard H. Baker, Jr. / Paul D. Laxalt (Republican)
1980: T. LeRoy Collins / Edmund S. Muskie (Democratic), Eugene J. McCarthy / John B. Anderson (Independent)
1984: Gary W. Hart / Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. (Democratic)

1989-1993: Paul D. Laxalt / Jack F. Kemp (Republican)
1988: Mario M. Cuomo / John H. Glenn, Jr. (Democratic) H. Ross Perot / Pat Choate (Reform)
1993-1993: Jerry L. Litton / Peter E. Duel (Democratic)
1992: Paul D. Laxalt / M. Elizabeth A. H. Dole (Republican)
1993-1997: Peter E. Duel / vacant (Democratic)
1997-2001: Peter E. Duel / Reubin O’D. Askew (Democratic)

1996: Carroll A. Campbell, Jr. / J. Danforth Quayle (Republican)
2001-2005: William H. Frist / Jeffry L. Flake (Republican)
2000: Richard A. Gephardt / John D. Rockefeller IV (Democratic) H. Ross Perot / Pat Choate (Reform)
2005-2013: John F. Kennedy, Jr. / William W. Bradley (Democratic)
2004: William H. Frist / Michael D. Huckabee (Republican)
2008: Lincoln D. Chafee / Kelly A. Ayotte (Republican)

2013-: Elbert L. Guillory / Michael B. Enzi (Republican)
2012: Mark R. Warner / Andrew M. Cuomo (Democratic)
 
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You know the way into my heart.

Good. I was trying to keep Sinn Fein with its roots. So it is a more militant constitutionalist nationalist party which is quite in line with cultural conservatism and vague anti-semitism that was sort of part and parcel of what Griffith believed. This also fits Oliver 'Get the Jews out' Flanagan well.
 
So this requires a lot of explanation beforehand - this list is actually a write-up of an utterly bizarre timeline called 'The Bold Frontier (j.f.k. lives)' by a random banned member.

It is literally the definition of 'shitty, poorly formatted timeline' - the POD is JFK lives and the content aside from the listing of elections is almost entirely incomprehensible or batshit crazy.
But nearly all of the presidents in it are really inspired, original picks - to the point that it's actually disconcerting that someone who seems functionally illiterate could make something even remotely this well-thought. Seriously though - it makes absolutely no sense and you should check it out.
Without further ado,


The Bold Frontier
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! The user also has many more JFK survives TLs, all copies of the other one.
 
spookyscaryskeletons - Supreme Presidents of L'exécutif de le Peuple (Executive of the People)
Supreme Presidents of L'exécutif de le Peuple (Executive of the People)
1948-1949: Kliment Vorishilov (Russian Occupational Force)
[1]
1949-1959: Marcel Cachin (SFIO)[2]
1959-1960: Ambroise Croizat (PCF)[3]
1960-1966: Henri Tanguy (PCF)[4]
1966-1970: Tristan Tzara (PCF)[5]
1970-1973: Jacques Decour (SFIO)[6]
1973-1975: Jacques Delors (SFIO)[7]
1975-1999: Maurice Alguhon (SFIO)[8]
1999-2002: Françoise Cachin (PCF)[9]

[1]- As Resistance tanks finally retook Paris after years of trying, the People's State of France was warmly welcomed into the world by President Pepper, who aimed to undo the isolationism of the preceding Nye administration. Vorishilov would oversee the trails of Vichy figures and invasion of Nazi holdouts as 'temporary administrator' of the new republic. In his final act before being jetted back to Moscow by Marshal Stalin, Vorishilov would commission the 'Thorez Report', an investigation into Nazi atrocities and named after a martyr of the communist movement.
[2]- The first 'internal elections' would take place, and the SFIO would come out leaps and bounds ahead of the PCF as Stalin's man was put in power. Cachin would tow the Moscow line, transferring dissidents back to Russia by train and paying 'diplomatic tax' to Stalin. He would attempt some form of reconciliation with Britain, which under the government of Ellen Wilkinson was trying to wean itself off of the American teat. The policy of 'mandated decolonization' would anger the populace, and Cachin was delivered a blow when the Rogue of Africa DeGaulle evaded arrest in Libya. He delegated control of the economy to his cunning deputy François Billoux, who was considered the real power and surprised many when he didn't step up to the crease upon Cachin's passing in 1959. Instead, a low level minister would be the one to rise to the top.
[3]- Croizat, despite serving for little over a year, would be credited in later years for setting the stage for the modern welfare system (sécurité sociale), as well as the expansion of old age pensions. The now senile Stalin personally disdained him for reasons unknown (the fact that he was from the PCF and not the SFIO may have contributed) and threatened dire action along with the rest of Soviet Europe unless he stepped down. He did so unceremoniously, which became a point of contention among French Leftists. Today, to refer to someone as an 'Ambroise' is either a mark of pride or shame depending on which side of the spectrum you're on.
[4]- War hero Tanguy would pick up Croizat's mantle and would diligently further his work. He helped mediate the crisis of '62, when president Wherry came close to launching missiles at Berlin from the American client state of Cuba. He also oversaw the week of mourning (and private celebration) when Stalin finally shuffled off the mortal coil at the ripe old age of 84, leaving behind a controversial legacy. Rapprochement with Canada would be initiated as many pro-SFIO/PCF politicos came to prominence in the Quebecois Liberals. Tanguy retired to his villa in 1966, handing power to a most unusual figure.
[5]- Tzara had cut his teeth as an artist before the Nazis ravaged his homeland, provoking him into action, as he joined the PCF and fought paratroopers on the 'suburbs'. His time in office would see a massive investment in the arts community, including a revitalization of the Louvre and other museums. 'Robespierre tower', constructed during the Cachin years after the Eiffel Tower was destroyed, would collapse due to faulty steel and be replaced with a general monument to 'heroes of France', with a 'sub-memorial' at the bottom to Jean-Marie Le Pen, who died at the tender age of 24 defending his village from Nazi insurgents. His attempt at lifting security restrictions would see him removed from office by the Executive in 1970. He would die shortly after of natural causes contrary to what some allege.
[6]- The SFIO was finally back under the hero of the resistance. Decour was not to last long, though he would push for greater trade between France and Germany. One of his final acts was to create five new economic zones along the impoverished areas of Brittany and Normandy, which was appreciated by residents in years following. He would die at the hands of Michel Thomas, a teenage aspiring author who had undergone radicalization at the hands of the oppressive Brazilian Secret Service.
[7]- Jacques Delors, previously an unknown bureaucrat, was thrust into power by Thomas' gun. He did not intend to serve long, but while he was there, he increased trading with Britain (now under the leadership of 'compassionate liberal' Keith Joseph) and made moves towards a Universal Basic Income. After his premiership, he went to managing benefits offices in Bordeaux.
[8]- 'The People's Historian' took the reigns of power with gusto, and intended on shaping France in his own image. He revamped the whole economic structure, finally implementing UBI and rolling back the security state to the anger of Shelepin. In something that would define him as the Grand Marshal of Destiny in French textbooks, he maintained French neutrality during the East-West War of the early 80's, spurred by President Westmoreland's moving of troops into Soviet-aligned Pakistan. The ensuing war would see the first usage of nuclear weapons across Europe. After the war's conclusion, a white heat with millions dead and little territory shift, Alguhon would organize relief efforts in areas of strife, such as in Yugoslavia and former colonies. Liberalization and peace would arrive with the ascendance of Clint Eastwood (defeating prominent businesswoman Leona Helmsley in a landslide) and Mikhail Ulyanov to their respective nation's leaderships as tensions were wound down and security restrictions reduced. Alguhon would last until the late 90's, when the general consensus was that he was outstaying his welcome. He handed power over while still remaining an active commentator and beloved figure in the French political matrix.
[9]- To the shock of many, the granddaughter of 'Stalin's man' would be the one to restore proper democratic elections to France, as well as the one to institute free market reforms. A national referendum on the topic of instituting a parliamentary system along the lines of Britain and Canada passed with flying colours, and as such, Cachin would become the final Supreme President of the executive. She would continue to be an active member of the PCF in post-communist France, but she would not be well remembered by hardliners.
 
Cevolian - Fight and Be Wrong (Or the Quite Death of Conservative Unionism)
FIGHT AND BE WRONG;
Or The Quiet Death of Conservative Unionism


1874-1884:
Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative)

1874: (Majority) Def: William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal), Isaac Butt (Home Rule League)
1880: (Coalition with Home Rule League) Def: Spencer Cavendish, Marquess of Hartington (Liberal)

1884-1886: Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal-Unionist Conservative Coalition)
1886-1898: Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal)

1886: (Coalition with Unionist Conservatives) Def: Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative), Charles Stewart Parnell (Nationalist), Charles Dilke (Radical and Liberal)
1898-1904: Randolph Churchill (Conservative)
1898: (Minority Coalition with Radicals and Liberals with "Home Rule" Nationalist and SDF Confidence and Supply) Def: Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Roseberry (Liberal), Charles Stewart Parnell (Nationalist)
1904-1905: Herbert Asquith (Liberal)
1904: (Minority Coalition with Unionist Conservatives with Socialist Labour Confidence and Supply) Def: Randolph Churchill (Conservative/Radical and Liberal), John Redmond ("Mainstream" Nationalist), Various ("Moderate" Nationalists), Various ("Radical" Nationalists)
1907-1908: Edward Gray (Liberal leading Minority Coalition with Unionist Conservatives)
1908-1912: Edward Gray (Liberal)

1908: (Coalition with Unionist Conservatives) Def: Randolph Churchill (Conservative and Radical/SDF), George Bernard Shaw (Irish Natoonal League), John Redmond (National), Ramsay MacDonald (Socialist Labour), Various ("Independent" Home Rule)
1912-1913: Edward Gray (Liberal Unionist)
1912: (Majority) Def: Austen Chamberlain (Radical Democratic), George Bernard Shaw (Rally for an Independent Ireland), Ramsay MacDonald (Socialist Labour)
1913-1915: Reginald McKenna (Liberal Unionist Majority)
1915-1924: John Simon (Liberal Unionist)

1916: (Majority) Def: David Lloyd-George (Radical Democratic), George Bernard Shaw (Rally for an Independent Ireland)
1920: (Minority with Irish Unionist Confidence and Supply) Def: David Lloyd-George (People's), [various "True" Conservatives]
1924: (Majority) Def: Robert Blatchford (People's), Edward Carson (Irish Unionist), Arthur Balfour ("Diehard" Conservative), Arthur Henderson (Socialist Labour)

1924-1929: Francis Wrigley-Hirst (Liberal Unionist Majority)
1929-19---: Robert Blatchford (People's)
1929: (Majority)
Def: Francis Wrigely-Hirst (Liberal), Edward Carson (National Unionist), Richard Verney (Reactionary), Harry Pollit (Socialist Labour)

The basic idea is that the Tories keep up their oact with the Home Rule League, eventually leading to a split party. Churchill then forms his "Tory Democrat" party with a mixture of radicals and left wingers as well as One Nation conservatives. This veer to he left keeps the Liberals in power until the late 1920s when Irish independence and the rise of two new radical parties on the right allow the socially conservative, economically populist, "Peoples' Party" to win a narrow majority.
 
Oppo - Fred Phelps the Civil Rights Hero
Fred Phelps the Civil Rights Hero

1977-1981: Ronald Reagan/Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1976: Jimmy CarterH/John Glenn (Democrat)
1981-1989: Fred Phelps/Andrew Miller (Democrat)
1980: Ronald Reagan/Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1984: Malcolm Wallop/Bill Clements (Republican)

1989-1993: Slade Gorton/Richard Cheney (Republican)
1988: Andrew Miller/George Sinner (Democrat)

1993-1997: Alben Barkley II/Ellis Rubin (Democrat)
1992: Slade Gorton/Richard Cheney (Republican)
1997-2003: Ellis Rubin/John Silber (Democrat)
1996: Richard Cheney/John Danforth (Republican), Tom Carper/Adlai Stevenson II (Independent Democrat)
2000:
Richard Cheney/Vin Weber (Republican)
2003: John Silber/Vacant (Democrat)
2003-2005: John Silber/George Mitchell (Democrat)
2005-2013: Bill Schuette/Rex Tillerson (Republican)

2004: George Mitchell/Fred Grandy (Democrat)
2008: Harold Ford/Jay Nixon (Democrat)

2013-Present: Jay Nixon/Stephanie Sandlin (Democrat)
2012: Rex Tillerson/Tom Kean (Republican)
2016: John Kennedy/Liz Cheney (Republican)
 
1912-1913: Edward Gray (Liberal Unionist)
1912: (Majority) Def: Austen Chamberlain (Radical Democratic), George Bernard Shaw (Rally for an Independent Ireland), Ramsay MacDonald (Socialist Labour)
1913-1915: Reginald McKenna (Liberal Unionist Majority)
1915-1924: John Simon (Liberal Unionist)

1916: (Majority) Def: David Lloyd-George (Radical Democratic), George Bernard Shaw (Rally for an Independent Ireland)
1920: (Minority with Irish Unionist Confidence and Supply) Def: David Lloyd-George (People's), [various "True" Conservatives]
1924: (Majority) Def: Robert Blatchford (People's), Edward Carson (Irish Unionist), Arthur Balfour ("Diehard" Conservative), Arthur Henderson (Socialist Labour)

1924-1929: Francis Wrigley-Hirst (Liberal Unionist Majority)
1929-19---: Robert Blatchford (People's)
1929: (Majority)
Def: Francis Wrigely-Hirst (Liberal), Edward Carson (National Unionist), Richard Verney (Reactionary), Harry Pollit (Socialist Labour)
Fricking awesome.

You've used that Richard Verney bloke before, but I can't seem to get hold of any information about him. Am I missing something?
 
Fricking awesome.

You've used that Richard Verney bloke before, but I can't seem to get hold of any information about him. Am I missing something?
Thanks :)

Verney was a Tory politician in the early 29th century and the 19th Baron Willoughby de Broke. He was on the hard right of the party and considered splitting it over the 1911 Constitutional Crisis - I learnt about him from a thread on this site but there's very little about him on the internet. Ive accidentally extended his life by 6 years here so I'm tempted to swap in someone like Henry Page Croft or Richard Cooper.
 
Mumby - Eternal Conservatives
And the second.

2010-2016: David Cameron (Conservative)
2010 (Coalition with Liberal Democrats) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)

2016-2023: Theresa May (Conservative)
2018 (Majority) def. Wes Streeting (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Paul Nuttal (UKIP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
2023-2032: Liam Fox (Conservative)
2023 (Majority) def. Stella Creasey (Labour), John Cryer (New Union), Mhairi Black (Official 'Urban' SNP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat), Fergus Ewing ('Highland' SNP), John Rees-Evans (Continuity UKIP)
2027 (Majority) def. Lucy Powell (Labour-Liberal Democrat-Scottish Party), John Cryer (New Union-National Party of Scotland), Felix Bungay (Independence)

2032-present: Stephen Crabb (Conservative)
2032 (Coalition with Independence) def. Lisa Nandy (New Union), Heidi Alexander ('London' Labour-Liberal Democrat), Felix Bungay (Independence), Mhairi Black (Scottish Party), Luciana Berger ('Liverpool' Labour)
 
Verney was a Tory politician in the early 29th century and the 19th Baron Willoughby de Broke. He was on the hard right of the party and considered splitting it over the 1911 Constitutional Crisis - I learnt about him from a thread on this site but there's very little about him on the internet. I've accidentally extended his life by 6 years here so I'm tempted to swap in someone like Henry Page Croft or Richard Cooper.
Ah, right. So he was an advocate of splitting of a new rightist party? I see. Thanks.
There's a nice quote on his Wikipedia page:

"[Verney was] a genial and sporting young peer, whose face bore a pleasing resemblance to the horse."

Delightful!
2016-2023: Theresa May (Conservative)
2018 (Majority) def. Wes Streeting (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Paul Nuttall (UKIP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
I don't really see the Labour Party base getting over their adoration of Corbyn that quickly. If Corbyn has to fall on his sword after an election defeat, I'm sure that McDonnell or one of his allies will be elevated in his absence. It's an interesting list though - interesting because most of the 2016 'Tory candidates eventually work their way to the top.
 
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