List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

[Brundlefly]

S U C C E S S I O N


January 20 (12:00), 1961 - November 22 (12:30), 1963: John F. Kennedy (Democratic) 1
November 22 (12:30), 1963 - November 22 (13:03), 1963: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic) 2
November 22 (13:03), 1963 - November 22 (14:10), 1963: John W. McCormack (Democratic) 3
November 22 (14:10), 1963 - November 22 (14:28), 1963: Carl Hayden (Democratic) 4
November 22 (14:28), 1963 - November 22 (15:53), 1963: Dean Rusk (Democratic) 5
November 22 (15:53), 1963 - November 23 (2:35), 1963: C. Douglas Dillon (Republican) 6
November 23 (2:35), 1963 - November 23 (2:39), 1963: Robert McNamara (Republican) 7
November 23 (2:39), 1963 - November 23 (6:00), 1963: Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic) 8
November 23 (6:00), 1963 - January 20 (12:00), 1965: Stewart Udall (Democratic) 9

1 Shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas.

2 Shot by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas.

3 Died of a heart attack.

4 Died of a stroke.

5 Refused to take oath of office.

6 Accidentally shot by Secret Service while being defended from possible intruder.

7 Accidentally shot by Secret Service while being mistaken for possible intruder.

8 Declared missing after plane en route to Dallas disappeared over Arkansas at 16:01.

9 Completed term as President.

Now that would make a cracking "24" retro episode.

 

[CanadianTory]

Basically, I tried thinking of a fun/somewhat plausible Wellstone lives scenario, and it spiraled out from there. Maybe I'll revisit this in a TLIAW or something sometime.

Fantastic list @True Grit! I had a list written down involving Wesley Clark and a separate one involving Hillary Clinton

Presidents of the United States: General Clark reporting for duty
2001-2005: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
def. 2000: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2005-2013: Wesley Clark / Jeanne Shaheen (Democratic)
def. 2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican)
def. 2008: Mike Huckabee/Tim Pawlenty (Republican)
2013-2017: Rick Santorum / Kelly Ayotte (Republican)
def. 2012: Jeanne Shaheen/Tom Vilsack (Democratic)
2017-present: Barack Obama / Catherine Cortez Masto (Democratic)
def. 2016: Rick Santorum/Kelly Ayotte (Republican)

Presidents of the United States: It took a Clinton...
2001-2005: George W. Bush / Dick Cheney (Republican)
def. 2000: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democratic)
2005-2009: Hillary Clinton / Tom Vilsack (Democratic)
def. 2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican)
2009-2013: John McCain / Joe Lieberman (Republican)
def. 2008: Hillary Clinton/Tom Vilsack (Democratic), Mike Huckabee/Haley Barbour (Independent)
2013-present: Kathleen Sebelius / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
def. 2012: Jeb Bush/Lindsay Graham (Republican), Michael Bloomberg/Jon Huntsman, Jr. (Independent)
def. 2016: Sam Brownback/Chris Christie (Republican)

 

[The Red]

Innocent Until Proven Guilty

1935-1937: Stanley Baldwin (National Govt)
1937-1940: Neville Chamberlain (National Govt) [1]
1940-1943: Howard Kingsley Wood (National Govt) [2]
1943-1948: William Morrison (National Govt) [3]
1948-????: Herbert Morrison (Labour) [4]


[1] Reforms in housing and the skeleton of the Full Coverage Prosivion completely overshadowed by the Sudeten War and its aftermath. By the time the Heer had launched a coup against its own goverment several dozen British airmen had died. Most leading Nazis were dead or in Nationalist areas of Spain by the time people were calling for Chamberlain to have done more to prepare for an inevitable conflict, but the quick victory distracted away from that for a while and Labour made few inroads in the 1939 khaki election. Clement Attlee, only ever a caretaker leader, was thanked for his rather thankless role and quickly booted out. Farcical elections were held in Germany shortly after the junta running the country agreed to apologise to Czechoslovakia and cover any damages a group of League of Nations inspectors had been created to estimate. What the Czech's really want is an independent Austria, just in case the German Panzers don't break down en masse next time round, but neither the British nor the French are interested and the Soviets aren't really in any position to force the issue. It's not much of a peace but another period of quiet seems assured at the very least. Chamberlain's health begins to decline dramatically around the same time as the European economy, the German junta were desperately selling military equipment to anyone who would buy but it wasn't nearly enough to avert the economic suicide the Nazis had caused, a European depression looms. Chamberlain knows he isn't up to the job of this new crisis but fears some within his party will put their own advancement over their ability to solve the crisis, as such he spends the last weeks of his premiership telling everyone who'll listen that there's only one man for the job.

[2] A genuine do-gooder who had gradually come to believe that the state was the best way to do good, not a popular view in the Tory party but desperate times and all that. Turned conscription into a Civic Service and employed most men who didn't have a job, injected large amounts of money into the failing German economy and convinced the Americans and the French to do the same. Turned the crisis of the Second Russo-Japanese War into an opportunity by convincing the Japanese to get out of China based on the assurance that Britain would stand with Japan if Stalin threatened Korea. Expanded the unexpectedly large numbers of hospital beds that Chamberlain had though necessary for an expected long war and built the FCP around them. Appeased his own party by standing firm on India but found that it wasn't enough to get them to vote for his Pay As You Earn ideas for income tax, it was an argument that he was still trying to get a result from when he unexpectedly dropped dead in the autumn of 1943.

[3] Choosing a man to lead a nation based on his health and relative youth seems rather silly in the modern day but having two predecessors die in quick succession was rather traumatic for the Tories. Morrison wasn't really the libertarian ideologue he has been cast as by many, wasn't that much of a schemer either but he did genuinely think people should have as much control of their own lives as possible. Scraped by in the October 1943 election after insisting on winning his own mandate as quickly as possible, undid a lot of Kingsley Wood's statism and for a short time appeared justified. Britain's economy boomed, taxes went down, and the INC grudgingly agreed to dominion status. Things were not only settling down but actively seemed to be getting better and as such it seemed that any doubts about Morrisons inexperience hadn't been justified after all. Then the bad things started. A previously little-known civil servant named Horace Wilson struck the first blow, the leaking of his comments about Jews in 1944 by a disgusted colleague who only went by the name "Cato" left Morrison facing some rather awkward questions about Palestine and the plight of Jews attempting to get some of their possessions and property back from the anti-Nazi junta. The Soviet's detonation of 'First Lightning' in the summer of 1947 caused temporary panic after Morrison admitted he'd slashed defence spending to help lower taxes. The end of 1947 became known as the 'Winter of Discontent' after Britain was blighted with freezing temperatures and widescale industrial action over using the Civic Service to replace striking miners. Herbert Morrison smelled blood and his young campaign manager seemed to have an uncanny ability to pin the blame on everything wrong with the world on the Tory party. Michael Foot's propaganda expertise was boosted by the Prime Minister's barrage of inceasingly deranged comments and warnings about the Labour Party, a list of conspiracy theories built up to become so extreme that anti-communist elements within British society began to question whether or not he was being too paranoid.

[4] First and last Labour Prime Minister with a stable majority in the house.

 

[Ferguson97]

An American Dynasty

George H. W. Bush (1989-1993)

Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

George W. Bush (2001-2009)

Hillary Clinton (2009-2017)

Jeb Bush (2017-2025)

Chelsea Clinton (2025-2033)

George P. Bush (2033-2041)

Tyler Clinton (2041-2049)

Jenna Bush (2049-2057)

Aidan Clinton (2057-2065)

John Bush (2065-2073)

Charlotte Clinton (2073-2081)

Prescott Bush (2081-2089)

Note: All of the people Tyler and beyond exist in OTL as well.

 

[Hunter W.]

1945 - 1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1951 - 1955: Winston Churchill (Conservative/Unionist)
1955 - 1961: Anthony Eden (Conservative/Unionist)
1961 - 1966: Alec-Douglas Home (Conservative/Unionist)
1966 - 1971: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1971 - 1974: Edward Heath (Conservative/Unionist
1974 - 1976: Harold Wilson (Labour)
1976 - 1981: James Callaghan (Labour)
1981 - 1989: William Whitelaw (Conservative/Unionist)
1989 - 2003: John Major (Conservative/Unionist)
2003 - 2015: Tony Blair (Liberal-Democrat)
2015 - present: Michael Portillo (Conservative/Unionist)

 

[Rosa Luxemburg]

An American Dynasty

George H. W. Bush (1989-1993)

Bill Clinton (1993-2001)

George W. Bush (2001-2009)

Hillary Clinton (2009-2017)

Jeb Bush (2017-2025)

Chelsea Clinton (2025-2033)

George P. Bush (2033-2041)

Tyler Clinton (2041-2049)

Jenna Bush (2049-2057)

Aidan Clinton (2057-2065)

John Bush (2065-2073)

Charlotte Clinton (2073-2081)

Prescott Bush (2081-2089)

Note: All of the people Tyler and beyond exist in OTL as well.

Alternatively...

George W. Bush (2001-2009)

Barack Obama (2009-2017)

Jeb Bush (2017-2025)

Michelle Obama (2025-2033)

George P. Bush (2033-2041)

Malie Obama (2041-2049)

 

[Tim Thomason]

African-American Presidents:
45. Ben Carson / Carly Fiorina (R, 2017-Present)
def. 2016: Cory Booker / Elizabeth Warren (D)
44: Barack Obama / Hillary Clinton (D, 2009-2017)
def. 2012: Herman Cain / Michele Bachmann (R)
def. 2008: Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin (R)
43: Colin Powell / Elizabeth Dole (R, 2001-2009)
def. 2004: Al Sharpton / Janet Napolitano (D)
def. 2000: Jesse Jackson / Jeanne Shaheen (D)
42: Douglas Wilder / Pat Schroeder (D, 1993-2001)
def. 1996: Colin Powell / Christine Todd Whitman (R), Alan Keyes / Ezola Foster (USTP)
def. 1992: Samuel Pierce / Nancy Kassebaum (R), Ron Daniels / Asiba Tupahache (I)
41: Samuel Pierce / Nancy Kassebaum (R, 1989-1993)
def. 1988: Jesse Jackson / Pat Schroeder (D)
40: William Coleman / Anne Armstrong (R, 1981-1989)
def. 1984: Jesse Jackson / Geraldine Ferraro (D)
def. 1980: Walter Washington / Barbara Jordan (D), Clifton DeBerry / Matilde Zimmerman (SW)
39: Walter Washington / Barbara Jordan (D, 1977-1981)
def. 1976: Edward Brooke / Carla Anderson Hills (R)
38: Edward Brooke / Margaret Chase Smith (R, 1974-1977)

That's about as far as I got. I imagine Fauntroy will be the McGovern proxy and Channing Phillips the Humphrey proxy, but I haven't figured out who would be a "good" Nixon.

 

[Nofix]

African-American Presidents:
45. Ben Carson / Carly Fiorina (R, 2017-Present)
def. 2016: Cory Booker / Elizabeth Warren (D)
44: Barack Obama / Hillary Clinton (D, 2009-2017)
def. 2012: Herman Cain / Michele Bachmann (R)
def. 2008: Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin (R)
43: Colin Powell / Elizabeth Dole (R, 2001-2009)
def. 2004: Al Sharpton / Janet Napolitano (D)
def. 2000: Jesse Jackson / Jeanne Shaheen (D)
42: Douglas Wilder / Pat Schroeder (D, 1993-2001)
def. 1996: Colin Powell / Christine Todd Whitman (R), Alan Keyes / Ezola Foster (USTP)
def. 1992: Samuel Pierce / Nancy Kassebaum (R), Ron Daniels / Asiba Tupahache (I)
41: Samuel Pierce / Nancy Kassebaum (R, 1989-1993)
def. 1988: Jesse Jackson / Pat Schroeder (D)
40: William Coleman / Anne Armstrong (R, 1981-1989)
def. 1984: Jesse Jackson / Geraldine Ferraro (D)
def. 1980: Walter Washington / Barbara Jordan (D), Clifton DeBerry / Matilde Zimmerman (SW)
39: Walter Washington / Barbara Jordan (D, 1977-1981)
def. 1976: Edward Brooke / Carla Anderson Hills (R)
38: Edward Brooke / Margaret Chase Smith (R, 1974-1977)

That's about as far as I got. I imagine Fauntroy will be the McGovern proxy and Channing Phillips the Humphrey proxy, but I haven't figured out who would be a "good" Nixon.

Samuel B. Fuller?

 

[Gonzo]

Samuel B. Fuller?

How about that black judge that Kennedy considered?

EDIT: William H. Hastie.

 

[Beata Beatrix]

Ralph Bunche, possibly?

 

[Heliogabalus]

Harold Stassen: The Determinator

1949-1953 Harold Stassen / Dwight H. Green (Republican)
def. 1948 Harry S. Truman / Alben W. Barkley (Democratic), Strom Thurmond / Fielding L. Wright (States’ Rights Democratic), and Henry A. Wallace / Glen H. Taylor (Progressive)
1953-1957 Estes Kefauver / W. Averell Harriman (Democratic)
def. 1952 Harold Stassen / Dwight H. Green (Republican)
1957-1958 Prescott Bush / George H. Bender (Republican)
def. 1956 Estes Kefauver / W. Averell Harriman (Democratic)
1958-1961 Prescott Bush / vacant (Republican)
1961-1965 Prescott Bush / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
def. 1960 Lyndon B. Johnson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1965-1969 Robert F. Wagner Jr. / Herschel C. Loveless (Democratic)
def. 1964 Walter Judd / Thomas Kuchel (Republican) and Strom Thurmond / John Patterson (States’ Rights Democratic)
1969-1973 Philip Willkie / Richard Nixon (Republican)
def. 1968 Robert F. Wagner Jr. / Herschel C. Loveless (Democratic)
1973-1976 Gaylord Nelson / Scoop Jackson (Democratic)
def 1972 Philip Willkie / Richard Nixon (Republican)
1976-1976 Scoop Jackson / vacant (Democratic)
1976-1981 Scoop Jackson / Milton Shapp (Democratic)
def. 1976 Richard Nixon / Mel Bradford (Republican)
1981-1985 Harold Stassen / Nancy Kassebaum (Republican)
def. 1980 Scoop Jackson / Milton Shapp (Democratic)

Stassen is nominated in 1948 and defeats Truman. However, his presidency, which includes the Korean War, does not go as smoothly as he would like and he is narrowly defeated by Estes Kefauver in 1952. He initially tries to pull a Grover Cleveland in 1956, but finds himself lacking in support, and so he instead endorses the eventually nominee, Connecticut Senator Prescott Bush. Bush wins, but Vice President George H. Bender, who was chosen to appease the conservative faction of the party, dies in 1958 [just a few years before he did IOTL]. Additionally in 1958, Former President Stassen successfully runs for Governor of Pennsylvania, becoming the third president (after John Quincy Adams and Andrew Johnson) to hold elective office after leaving the presidency and the second person (after Sam Houston) to have been governor of two different states.

In 1960, Bush considers a number vice presidential picks (including even Former President Stassen, who puts himself up for consideration), but eventually chooses his friend, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller. The choice of a fellow Northeastern liberal infuriates conservatives in the party and creates a severely unbalanced ticket, but Bush believes that he is popular enough to pull off reelection despite this and ensure that Rockefeller is nominated in 1964; he is right in his first assumption, but not the second. While Rockefeller is initially the frontrunner in the 1964 primaries, he faces a conservative backlash that culminates in the nomination of Representative Walter Judd of Minnesota. The Democrats, meanwhile, nominate New York City Mayor Robert F. Wagner. However, the Southern faction, dissatisfied by the civil rights legislation of the Bush administration and the similarly pro-civil rights Democratic platform, revolts and hoists the Dixiecrat banner once more, again nominating Senator Thurmond, who chooses Alabama Governor John Malcolm Patterson as his running mate. In the close election, Thurmond succeeds in preventing either candidate from receiving an electoral majority, causing the election to go to Congress. After a great deal of cajoling, the House votes in Wagner, even though Judd had narrowly won a popular plurality, in returns for concessions for the South on civil rights issues.

After a controversial election and a lackluster first term, the Republicans are set for victory in 1968. Stassen, who had served his maximum of one consecutive term as Governor of Pennsylvania and had been elected to the senate in 1962, has never fully given up on his goal of attaining a second term and seriously considers a run. However, he is talked out of it and instead endorses Rockefeller. The conservatives, meanwhile, coalesce around a number of candidates, but all are dumbstruck by upset victories in the primaries and convention by young Indiana Senator Philip Willkie, son of 1940 Republican nominee Wendell Willkie, who unseats Wagner.

Willkie's presidency, however, does not go much better and he is unseated by environmentalist Wisconsin Senator Gaylord Nelson. Nelson passes a number of liberal policies, but he is assassinated in 1976, leaving the office to his vice president, the liberal hawk Henry "Scoop" Jackson. Jackson appoints New York Governor Milton Shapp to the vice presidency, making him the first Jewish person to hold the office. The assassination of Nelson destroys the strategy of Former Vice President Richard Nixon, who has just finished clearing the field in the Republican primaries. Nixon decides to take a risk by choosing "traditionalist conservative" academic-turn-politician, Senator Mel Bradford* as his running mate, hoping to enthuse conservative Republicans and possibly attract non-interventionist liberals and moderates put off by Jackson's interventionism. However, this backfires as Bradford overshadows Nixon, drawing controversy for his strongly conservative beliefs and occasional contradiction of his running mate, all while culminating his own loyal base. Nixon unsurprisingly loses by a large margin.

Scoop Jackson is sworn in for a second term in 1977 with a clear mandate from the people, but he soon draws controversy by getting involved in the civil war in Thailand between the government and a strong communist insurgency, which escalates into a full-blown invasion and an increase in tensions with both the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China. The controversy over the war turns many liberals away from Jackson, despite his progressive domestic policies, while Senator Mel Bradford, a conservative isolationist, managed to pit himself as the polar opposite of Jackson. Desperate to stop Bradford and seeing this as his last chance to run again, Governor-turned-President-turned-Governor-turned-Senator Harold Stassen announces his candidacy for the 1980 Republican nomination. Stassen's first term has by this point been vindicated by history and he has largely made a new name for himself in the time since through his extensive public service record, but the seventy-two-year-old former president is still seen as a relic of the past by most. Nonetheless, as he gains in the polls and shows no signs of wanting to drop out, much of the Republican establishment falls behind him. Many in the increasingly conservative party fail to see how Stassen, a liberal internationalist, is much different than Jackson, but he manages to win the nomination by portraying Bradford as an unelectable extremist. Stassen choses Nancy Kassebaum (who was, coincidentally, the daughter of 1936 Republican nominee Alf Landon) as his running mate, creating excitement at the prospect of the first female vice president, and wins the general election by a large margin. With thirty-two years between his first and second terms, he has created a record that is unlikely to be broken; being forty-one years old at the time of his first inauguration and seventy-three at the time of his second, he also holds the records for both the youngest and oldest president.

*I tried to find a conservative isolationist for Stassen to go up against in 1980, but that turned out being much harder than it sounds since it was in the period between the fall of the Old Right and the rise of prominent paleoconservatives, so I decided to butterfly in Mel Bradford going into elective politics.

 

[Yes]

Harold Stassen: The Determinator

1949-1953 Harold Stassen / Dwight H. Green (Republican)
def. 1948 Harry S. Truman / Alben W. Barkley (Democratic), Strom Thurmond / Fielding L. Wright (States’ Rights Democratic), and Henry A. Wallace / Glen H. Taylor (Progressive)
1953-1957 Estes Kefauver / W. Averell Harriman (Democratic)
def. 1952 Harold Stassen / Dwight H. Green (Republican)
1957-1958 Prescott Bush / George H. Bender (Republican)
def. 1956 Estes Kefauver / W. Averell Harriman (Democratic)
1958-1961 Prescott Bush / vacant (Republican)
1961-1965 Prescott Bush / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
def. 1960 Lyndon B. Johnson / John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1965-1969 Robert F. Wagner Jr. / Herschel C. Loveless (Democratic)
def. 1964 Walter Judd / Thomas Kuchel (Republican) and Strom Thurmond / John Patterson (States’ Rights Democratic)
1969-1973 Philip Willkie / Richard Nixon (Republican)
def. 1968 Robert F. Wagner Jr. / Herschel C. Loveless (Democratic)
1973-1976 Gaylord Nelson / Scoop Jackson (Democratic)
def 1972 Philip Willkie / Richard Nixon (Republican)
1976-1976 Scoop Jackson / vacant (Democratic)
1976-1981 Scoop Jackson / Milton Shapp (Democratic)
def. 1976 Richard Nixon / Mel Bradford (Republican)
1981-1985 Harold Stassen / Nancy Kassebaum (Republican)
def. 1980 Scoop Jackson / Milton Shapp (Democratic)

Stassen is nominated in 1948 and defeats Truman. However, his presidency, which includes the Korean War, does not go as smoothly as he would like and he is narrowly defeated by Estes Kefauver in 1952. He initially tries to pull a Grover Cleveland in 1956, but finds himself lacking in support, and so he instead endorses the eventually nominee, Connecticut Senator Prescott Bush. Bush wins, but Vice President George H. Bender, who was chosen to appease the conservative faction of the party, dies in 1958 [just a few years before he did IOTL]. Additionally in 1958, Former President Stassen successfully runs for Governor of Pennsylvania, becoming the third president (after John Quincy Adams and Andrew Johnson) to hold elective office after leaving the presidency and the second person (after Sam Houston) to have been governor of two different states.

In 1960, Bush considers a number vice presidential picks (including even Former President Stassen, who puts himself up for consideration), but eventually chooses his friend, New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller. The choice of a fellow Northeastern liberal infuriates conservatives in the party and creates a severely unbalanced ticket, but Bush believes that he is popular enough to pull off reelection despite this and ensure that Rockefeller is nominated in 1964; he is right in his first assumption, but not the second. While Rockefeller is initially the frontrunner in the 1964 primaries, he faces a conservative backlash that culminates in the nomination of Representative Walter Judd of Minnesota. The Democrats, meanwhile, nominate New York City Mayor Robert F. Wagner. However, the Southern faction, dissatisfied by the civil rights legislation of the Bush administration and the similarly pro-civil rights Democratic platform, revolts and hoists the Dixiecrat banner once more, again nominating Senator Thurmond, who chooses Alabama Governor John Malcolm Patterson as his running mate. In the close election, Thurmond succeeds in preventing either candidate from receiving an electoral majority, causing the election to go to Congress. After a great deal of cajoling, the House votes in Wagner, even though Judd had narrowly won a popular plurality, in returns for concessions for the South on civil rights issues.

After a controversial election and a lackluster first term, the Republicans are set for victory in 1968. Stassen, who had served his maximum of one consecutive term as Governor of Pennsylvania and had been elected to the senate in 1962, has never fully given up on his goal of attaining a second term and seriously considers a run. However, he is talked out of it and instead endorses Rockefeller. The conservatives, meanwhile, coalesce around a number of candidates, but all are dumbstruck by upset victories in the primaries and convention by young Indiana Senator Philip Willkie, son of 1940 Republican nominee Wendell Willkie, who unseats Wagner.

Willkie's presidency, however, does not go much better and he is unseated by environmentalist Wisconsin Senator Gaylord Nelson. Nelson passes a number of liberal policies, but he is assassinated in 1976, leaving the office to his vice president, the liberal hawk Henry "Scoop" Jackson. Jackson appoints New York Governor Milton Shapp to the vice presidency, making him the first Jewish person to hold the office. The assassination of Nelson destroys the strategy of Former Vice President Richard Nixon, who has just finished clearing the field in the Republican primaries. Nixon decides to take a risk by choosing "traditionalist conservative" academic-turn-politician, Senator Mel Bradford* as his running mate, hoping to enthuse conservative Republicans and possibly attract non-interventionist liberals and moderates put off by Jackson's interventionism. However, this backfires as Bradford overshadows Nixon, drawing controversy for his strongly conservative beliefs and occasional contradiction of his running mate, all while culminating his own loyal base. Nixon unsurprisingly loses by a large margin.

Scoop Jackson is sworn in for a second term in 1977 with a clear mandate from the people, but he soon draws controversy by getting involved in the civil war in Thailand between the government and a strong communist insurgency, which escalates into a full-blown invasion and an increase in tensions with both the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China. The controversy over the war turns many liberals away from Jackson, despite his progressive domestic policies, while Senator Mel Bradford, a conservative isolationist, managed to pit himself as the polar opposite of Jackson. Desperate to stop Bradford and seeing this as his last chance to run again, Governor-turned-President-turned-Governor-turned-Senator Harold Stassen announces his candidacy for the 1980 Republican nomination. Stassen's first term has by this point been vindicated by history and he has largely made a new name for himself in the time since through his extensive public service record, but the seventy-two-year-old former president is still seen as a relic of the past by most. Nonetheless, as he gains in the polls and shows no signs of wanting to drop out, much of the Republican establishment falls behind him. Many in the increasingly conservative party fail to see how Stassen, a liberal internationalist, is much different than Jackson, but he manages to win the nomination by portraying Bradford as an unelectable extremist. Stassen choses Nancy Kassebaum (who was, coincidentally, the daughter of 1936 Republican nominee Alf Landon) as his running mate, creating excitement at the prospect of the first female vice president, and wins the general election by a large margin. With thirty-two years between his first and second terms, he has created a record that is unlikely to be broken; being forty-one years old at the time of his first inauguration and seventy-three at the time of his second, he also holds the records for both the youngest and oldest president.

*I tried to find a conservative isolationist for Stassen to go up against in 1980, but that turned out being much harder than it sounds since it was in the period between the fall of the Old Right and the rise of prominent paleoconservatives, so I decided to butterfly in Mel Bradford going into elective politics.

This, this is a fine example of the beautiful weirdness that makes AH.com special. Noice. (Question: does he wear the same hairpiece in the Eighties ITTL that he did IOTL?)

 

[Tzaero]

The Damascus Tragedy
Radioactive fallout over Arkansas

<1981-1985> - Ronald Reagan/George Bush (Republican)
1980 - Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale✝ {Mondale replaced by William Proxmire after his death} (Democratic)
<1985-1987> - Joe Biden✝/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)
1984 - Ronald Reagan/George Bush (Republican)
<1987-1993> - Lloyd Bentsen/Bill Bradley (Democratic)
1988 - Bob Dole/Dick Thornburgh (Republican)
<1993-2001> - George Bush/Connie Mack III (Republican)
1992 - Lloyd Bentsen/Bill Bradley (Democratic)
1996 - Bill Bradley/Ann Richards (Democratic)
<2001-2009> - Bob Graham/Carol Mosley Braun (Democratic)
2000 - Connie Mack III/Kay Bailey Hutchison (Republican)
2004 - Jeb Bush/John Danforth (Republican)
<2009-2013> - Rick Santorum/Tom Ridge (Republican)
2008 - Carol Mosley Braun/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
<2013-2021> - Maria Cantwell/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2012 - Rick Santorum/Tom Ridge (Republican)
2016 - Sarah Palin/Chris Christie (Republican)

 

[Cevolian]

1993-2001: John McCain (Republican)
1992 def - Edward Kennedy (Democrat), Lyndon LaRouche (Independent)
1996 def - Joe Biden (Democrat), Lyndon LaRouche (American Labor)
2001-2009: Edward M. Kennedy Jr. (Democrat)
2000 def - George W. Bush (Republican)
2004 def - Mitt Romney (Republican)
2009-2017: Marco Rubio (Republican)
2008 def - Al Gore (Democrat)
2012 def - John Kerry (Democrat)
2017-20---: Mark Cuban (Democrat)
2016 def - Cindy McCain (Republian)

I tried to do a list where a LaRouche candidacy in 1992 leads to LaRoucheist ideas taking over the Democrats in 2016 and not Perotism taking over the Republicans (though I envision the POD being as far back as a Reagan win in 1976)... not really very happy with the results because I don't know enough about American politics. Cuban doesn't necessarily work for an economically populist socially conservative democrat, for example...

 

[Heliogabalus]

This, this is a fine example of the beautiful weirdness that makes AH.com special. Noice. (Question: does he wear the same hairpiece in the Eighties ITTL that he did IOTL?)

Sure.

 

[Mumby]

1993-2001: John McCain (Republican)
1992 def - Edward Kennedy (Democrat), Lyndon LaRouche (Independent)
1996 def - Joe Biden (Democrat), Lyndon LaRouche (American Labor)
2001-2009: Edward M. Kennedy Jr. (Democrat)
2000 def - George W. Bush (Republican)
2004 def - Mitt Romney (Republican)
2009-2017: Marco Rubio (Republican)
2008 def - Al Gore (Democrat)
2012 def - John Kerry (Democrat)
2017-20---: Mark Cuban (Democrat)
2016 def - Cindy McCain (Republian)

I tried to do a list where a LaRouche candidacy in 1992 leads to LaRoucheist ideas taking over the Democrats in 2016 and not Perotism taking over the Republicans (though I envision the POD being as far back as a Reagan win in 1976)... not really very happy with the results because I don't know enough about American politics. Cuban doesn't necessarily work for an economically populist socially conservative democrat, for example...

Maaaybe John Edwards would work better? I don't know.

 

[Cevolian]

Maaaybe John Edwards would work better? I don't know.

Hmm possibly, but he's certainly far away from LaRouche... but then almost everyone is.

 

[Rosa Luxemburg]

My Throwback Timeline I'm Considering Restarting next month (Footnotes will come tomorrow):

43. John McCain (Republican - Arizona) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009| Vice President: George W. Bush [1]
Elections/Opponents:

• 2000: Al Gore (Democratic - Tennessee)/Dick Gephardt (Democratic - Missouri)
• 2004: Dick Gephardt (Democratic - Missouri)/Nancy Pelosi (Democratic - California)

44. George W. Bush (Republican - Texas) January 20th, 2009 - January 21st, 2013| Vice President: Tom Ridge [2]
Elections/Opponents:

• 2008: John Kerry (Democratic - Massachusetts)/Tim Kaine (Democratic - Virginia)

45. Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democratic - Illinois) January 21st, 2013 - January 20th, 2021| Vice President: Evan Bayh [3]
Elections/Opponents:

• 2012: George W. Bush (Republican - Texas)/Tom Ridge (Republican - Pennsylvania); Ron Paul (Independent - Texas)/Colin Powell (Independent - New York)
• 2016: Mitt Romney (Republican - Massachusetts)/Paul Ryan (Republican - Wisconsin)

46. Jeb Bush (Republican - Florida) January 20th, 2021 - January 20th, 2029| Vice President: John Kasich [4]
Elections/Opponents:

• 2020: Evan Bayh (Democratic - Indiana)/Jeanne Shaheen (Democratic - New Hampshire)
• 2024: John Hickenlooper (Democratic - Colorado)/John Bel Edwards (Democratic - Louisiana)

47. Barack Obama (Democratic - Illinois) January 20th, 2029 - January 20th, 2037| Vice President: Beau Biden [5]
Elections/Opponents:

• 2028: Mike Huckabee (Republican - Arkansas)/???? (Republican - ??)
• 2032: Rick Santorum (Republican - Pennsylvania)/???? (Republican - ??)

Perhaps Ted Cruz could work for Mike Huckabee, meanwhile Santorum picks Marco Rubio?5

 

[Mumby]

This is the first of two lists I'll be doing.

2010-2016: David Cameron (Conservative)
2010 (Coalition with Liberal Democrats) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2016-2022: Theresa May (Conservative)
2017 (Majority) def. Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Chuka Umuna (Open Britain 'London Progressives'), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
2022-2026: Justine Greening (Conservative)
2022 (Majority) def. John McDonnell (Labour), Chuka Umuna (Progressive-Liberal Democrat-Official 'Reform' SNP), Tommy Sheppard ('Radical' SNP)
2026-present: Clive Lewis (Labour)
2026 (Coalition with LPDP) def. Justine Greening (Conservative), Sarah Olney (Liberal and Progressive Democrat), Tommy Sheppard (Scottish Republican)

 

[Gonzo]

Home Rule is Rome Rule or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying (about Papism) and Love Limited Devolution

1908-1915: Herbert Asquith (Liberal)
1910 (Jan) (Minority): Arthur Balfour (Conservative & Liberal Unionist), John Redmond (Irish Parliamentary), Arthur Henderson (Labour), William O'Brien (All-for-Ireland)
1910 (Dec) (Minority): Arthur Balfour (Conservative & Liberal Unionist), John Redmond (Irish Parliamentary), George Nicoll Barnes (Labour), William O'Brien (All-for-Ireland)
1915-1923: Andrew Bonar Law (National Unionist)
1915: Hebert Asquith (Liberal), John Redmond (Irish Parliamentary), Ramsay MacDonald (Labour), William O'Brien (All-for-Ireland)
1919: Hebert Asquith (Liberal), William Adamson (Labour), John Dillon (Irish Parliamentary), Arthur Griffith (Sinn Fein), William O'Brien (All-for-Ireland)
1923-1923: Austen Chamberlain (National Unionist)
1923-1928: Winston Churchill (Liberal)
1923 (Minority): Austen Chamberlain (National Unionist), J. R. Clynes (Labour), Joe Devlin (Irish Parliamentary), Arthur Griffith (Sinn Fein), Horatio Bottomley (Independent Parliamentary - 'John Bull')
1928-1931: Austen Chamberlain (National Unionist)
1928: Winston Churchill (Liberal), Ramsay MacDonald (Labour), Joe Devlin (Nationalist), Arthur Griffith (Sinn Fein), Horatio Bottomley (British - 'John Bull')
1931-1934: George Lansbury (Labour)
1931 (Minority): Austen Chamberlain (National Unionist), Herbert Samuel (Liberal), Joe Devlin (Nationalist), Piaras Beaslai (Sinn Fein), Noel Pemberton Billing (British - 'John Bull')
1934-1942: Kingsley Wood (National Unionist-Liberal ‘Coalition Coupon’)
1934: George Lansbury (Labour), Joe Devlin (Nationalist), Piaras Beaslai (Sinn Fein), Philip Snowden (National Labour), James Maxton (Independent Labour), Anthony Ludovici (British Union)
1939: Arthur Greenwood (Labour), T. J. Campbell (Nationalist), Piaras Beaslai (Sinn Fein), James Maxton (Independent Labour), Anthony Ludovici (British Union)
1942-1944: John Anderson (Coalition)
1944-1952: Arthur Greenwood (Labour)
1944 (Minority): Max Aitken (National Unionist), Piaras Beaslai (Sinn Fein), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), T. J. Campbell (Nationalist), Anthony Ludovici (British Union), John Anderson (Commonwealth)
1946: Max Aitken (National Unionist), Piaras Beaslai (Sinn Fein), T. J. Campbell (Nationalist), John Anderson (Commonwealth), Anthony Ludovici (British Union), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal)
1950: Henry "Chips" Channon (National Unionist), James Dillon (Nationalist), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), various (Commonwealth), Saunders Lewis (British Union), Megan Lloyd-George ("continuity" Liberal)
1952-1955: Herbert Morrison (Labour)
1954 (Minority): Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 5th Marquess of Salisbury (National Unionist), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), James Dillon (Nationalist), Megan Lloyd-George ("continuity" Liberal), Saunders Lewis (British Union)
1955-1961: Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 5th Marquess of Salisbury (National Unionist)
1955: Herbert Morrison (Labour), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), James Dillon (Nationalist), Megan Lloyd-George ("continuity" Liberal), Saunders Lewis (Patriot)
1959: Herbert Morrison (Labour), James Dillon (Nationalist), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), A. K. Chesterton (Patriot), Megan Lloyd-George (Social Liberal)
1961-1964: Richard Law (National Unionist)
1964-1970: Richard Crossman (Labour)
1964 (Minority): Richard Law (National Unionist), A. K. Chesterton (Patriot), Declan Costello (Nationalist), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), Charles Haughey (Óglaigh na Poblachta), Megan Lloyd-George (Social Liberal)
1966: Richard Law (National Unionist), A. K. Chesterton (Patriot), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), Declan Costello (Nationalist), Charles Haughey (Óglaigh na Poblachta), David Steel (Social Liberal)
1970-1973: Richard Law (National Unionist)
1970: Richard Crossman (Labour), A. K. Chesterton (Patriot), Charles Haughey (Óglaigh na Poblachta), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), Declan Costello (Nationalist), David Steel (Social Liberal)
1973-????: Liam Cosgrave (National Unionist)
1974: Ray Gunter (Labour), A. K. Chesterton (Patriot), Charles Haughey (Óglaigh na Poblachta), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), Declan Costello (Nationalist), David Steel (Social Liberal)
1978 (Minority): James Callaghan (Labour), Auberon Waugh (Patriot), Charles Haughey (Óglaigh na Poblachta), Oliver J. Flanagan (Sinn Fein), Garret Fitzgerald (Nationalist), David Steel (Social Liberal)