List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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Mumby - Sealion's Edge
Sealion's Edge
1941-1942: J.M. Andrews (Unionist majority)
1942-1963: Basil Brooke (Unionist)
1942 (Majority) def. T.J. Campbell (Nationalist), Paddy Agnew (Labour)
1945 (Majority) def. T.J. Campbell (Nationalist), Paddy Agnew (Labour)
1949 (Majority) def. William Smyth (Labour), James McSparran (Nationalist)
1952 (Majority) def. James McSparran (Christian Democratic Reform), Harry Midgley (Labour), none (Anti-Partition)
1956 (Majority) def. James McSparran (Christian Democratic Reform), Tom Boyd (Labour)
1961 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), Joe Stewart (Christian Democratic Reform), none (Anti-Partition)
1963-1970: Terence O'Neill (Unionist)
1966 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), Eddie McAteer (Anti-Partition), Michael O'Neill (Christian Democratic Reform)
1970-1975: Randolph Churchill (Unionist)
1970 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), A.K. Chesterton (National Folkish Vanguard), Fenner Brockway (Republican), Denis Healey (Communist)
1975-1980: Jim Callaghan (Labour)
1975 (Majority) def. Randolph Churchill (Unionist), Denis Healey (Constitutional Convention Alliance), John O'Brien (National Realignment)
1941-1942: J.M. Andrews (Unionist majority)
1942-1963: Basil Brooke (Unionist)
1942 (Majority) def. T.J. Campbell (Nationalist), Paddy Agnew (Labour)
1945 (Majority) def. T.J. Campbell (Nationalist), Paddy Agnew (Labour)
1949 (Majority) def. William Smyth (Labour), James McSparran (Nationalist)
1952 (Majority) def. James McSparran (Christian Democratic Reform), Harry Midgley (Labour), none (Anti-Partition)
1956 (Majority) def. James McSparran (Christian Democratic Reform), Tom Boyd (Labour)
1961 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), Joe Stewart (Christian Democratic Reform), none (Anti-Partition)
1963-1970: Terence O'Neill (Unionist)
1966 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), Eddie McAteer (Anti-Partition), Michael O'Neill (Christian Democratic Reform)
1970-1975: Randolph Churchill (Unionist)
1970 (Majority) def. Tom Boyd (Labour), A.K. Chesterton (National Folkish Vanguard), Fenner Brockway (Republican), Denis Healey (Communist)
1975-1980: Jim Callaghan (Labour)
1975 (Majority) def. Randolph Churchill (Unionist), Denis Healey (Constitutional Convention Alliance), John O'Brien (National Realignment)
Gorrister - Theresa May Gets Booted in '18
2016-2017: Theresa May (Conservative majority)
2017-2018: Theresa May (Conservative minority with DUP supply and confidence)
2017 def: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrats), Arlene Foster (DUP)
2018-2019: Michael Gove (Conservative minority with DUP supply and confidence)
2019-2020: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour majority)
2019 def: Michael Gove (Conservative), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Arlene Foster (DUP), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrats), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru), David Coburn (Patriotic Alliance)
2020-2024: Angela Rayner (Labour majority)
2024-2025: Miles Briggs (British Workers-Liberal Democrats coalition)
2024 def: Angela Rayner (Labour), Owen Paterson / Paul Oakden (New Compact / Patriotic Alliance Pact), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats), Ian Blackford (SNP), Gavin Robinson (DUP - 'New Compact and Unionist Leadership Together'), Emyr Gruffydd (Plaid Cymru), Clare Phipps (Green)
2025-2030: Angela Rayner (Labour majority)
2025 def: Miles Briggs (British Workers), Michael Gove (Democratic), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats), Emyr Gruffydd (Plaid Cymru), Alison Dickie (SNP), Simon Hamilton (DUP)
May is ousted in mid-2018 amid horrible results in the local elections and a string of by-elections which whittle down the government's threadbare 'Confidence and Supply Majority'. An inquest into the DUP's dealings with regards to a failing business propped up due to personal connections arise, leading to further complications regarding their deal. In May's stead comes an unlikely contender - coming out of the woodwork after the tarring of Rudd and the departure of Davis, it is he, Gove who atones for the sins of his 2016 campaign and pledges to be the only candidate to deliver a 'Clean Brexit'. Naturally, divisions are exposed and Gove's cabinet is markedly less neutral than May's. Britain rather unceremoniously leaves Europe without a deal as while things aren't complete calamity it could be far far better. Immediately, following the onset of a global recession, Gove is put to the test while in a more than shaky minority government. He is the worst thing in politics - 'just not up to it' - and quickly succumbs to a motion of no confidence. Then, in the midst of another disillusioning snap election, the most expected result arrives. Yes, Jeremy Corbyn is prime minister. In the aftermath of this the Tories somewhat unexpectedly turn to Robert Halfon, who manages to dodge scandal by attempting to paint himself as the man who can bring the party to a new working class base.
2017-2018: Theresa May (Conservative minority with DUP supply and confidence)
2017 def: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrats), Arlene Foster (DUP)
2018-2019: Michael Gove (Conservative minority with DUP supply and confidence)
2019-2020: Jeremy Corbyn (Labour majority)
2019 def: Michael Gove (Conservative), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Arlene Foster (DUP), Vince Cable (Liberal Democrats), Leanne Wood (Plaid Cymru), David Coburn (Patriotic Alliance)
2020-2024: Angela Rayner (Labour majority)
2024-2025: Miles Briggs (British Workers-Liberal Democrats coalition)
2024 def: Angela Rayner (Labour), Owen Paterson / Paul Oakden (New Compact / Patriotic Alliance Pact), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats), Ian Blackford (SNP), Gavin Robinson (DUP - 'New Compact and Unionist Leadership Together'), Emyr Gruffydd (Plaid Cymru), Clare Phipps (Green)
2025-2030: Angela Rayner (Labour majority)
2025 def: Miles Briggs (British Workers), Michael Gove (Democratic), Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrats), Emyr Gruffydd (Plaid Cymru), Alison Dickie (SNP), Simon Hamilton (DUP)
May is ousted in mid-2018 amid horrible results in the local elections and a string of by-elections which whittle down the government's threadbare 'Confidence and Supply Majority'. An inquest into the DUP's dealings with regards to a failing business propped up due to personal connections arise, leading to further complications regarding their deal. In May's stead comes an unlikely contender - coming out of the woodwork after the tarring of Rudd and the departure of Davis, it is he, Gove who atones for the sins of his 2016 campaign and pledges to be the only candidate to deliver a 'Clean Brexit'. Naturally, divisions are exposed and Gove's cabinet is markedly less neutral than May's. Britain rather unceremoniously leaves Europe without a deal as while things aren't complete calamity it could be far far better. Immediately, following the onset of a global recession, Gove is put to the test while in a more than shaky minority government. He is the worst thing in politics - 'just not up to it' - and quickly succumbs to a motion of no confidence. Then, in the midst of another disillusioning snap election, the most expected result arrives. Yes, Jeremy Corbyn is prime minister. In the aftermath of this the Tories somewhat unexpectedly turn to Robert Halfon, who manages to dodge scandal by attempting to paint himself as the man who can bring the party to a new working class base.
Lol, I like Alison Dickie, she's a nice person and a great councillor but she was a shit candidate in Edinburgh Central for MSP. If you're looking for a good candidate for SNP leader in 2025 I'd say Rhiannon V Spear has a chance, although she's likely a little young. Or maybe Shirley-Anne Somerville. Of course, there's always Derek Mackay, he's not going anywhere soon. Aye, my money's on Derek. The only thing that counts against him is he's GUSNA clique and who knows where the party will be in 2025.
Also, David Coburn is well known in Scotland to be monumental incompetent. Also, he's gay which won't appeal to some in a far right party.
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No to Leadsom. No support although she does keep stumbling upwards. Maybe David Davies or Phillip Hammond but yeah, definitely not Gove.
Basically, the Nazis manage to pull off Sealion and smash the Soviets but America takes Ulster under their wing, and Ulster becomes a rump UK. Ireland pivots toward the Axis, leading to a split in the Nationalist movement in Ulster, and in the 1960s, widespread youth riots in German ruled Europe leads to the Nazis pulling out of Britain proper and Ulster reuniting with the mainland.
I would have no objections to that.
On another note @Cevolian is the Tim Collins in that list the one who was the Westmorland MP before Farron or is it the Northern Irish fellow?
Sadly it's Westmorland and Lonsdale's pre-Farron proto-Cameroon MP and not the cool Northern Irish General.I would have no objections to that.
On another note @Cevolian is the Tim Collins in that list the one who was the Westmorland MP before Farron or is it the Northern Irish fellow?
shiftygiant - Couping on the Thames
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1989-2010: Kate Hoey (Labour)
def. 1989 By-election: Michael Keegan (Conservative), Mike Tuffrey (Social and Liberal Democrats), Henry Bewley (Green), 10 others (lost deposits)
def. 1992 (Conservative Government): Bernard Gentry (Conservative), Mike Tuffrey (Liberal Democrats), 2 others (lost deposits)
def. 1997 (Labour Government): Keith Kerr (Liberal Democrats), Richard Bacon (Conservative), 3 others (lost deposits)
def. 2001 (Labour Government): Anthony Bottrall (Liberal Democrats), Gareth Compton (Conservative), 3 others (lost deposits)
def. 2005 (Labour Government): Charles Anglin (Liberal Democrats), Edward Heckels (Conservative), 4 others (lost deposits)
2010-2015: Caroline Pidgeon (Liberal Democrats)
def. 2010 (Conservative Liberal Democrats Government): Steve Reed (Labour), Glyn Chambers (Conservative), 6 others (lost deposits)
So the premise is that the Council finally succeeds in getting Hoey deselected before the 2010 General Election and slots former Council Leader Steve Reed in. Hoey decides against standing as an Independent, and instead backs the LibDems as a way of spiting Reed. Labour suffers as the electorate disapproves of the stabbing in the back, but is unwilling to vote Conservative. Pidgeon subsequently wins the seat on a nats hair majority.
1989-2010: Kate Hoey (Labour)
def. 1989 By-election: Michael Keegan (Conservative), Mike Tuffrey (Social and Liberal Democrats), Henry Bewley (Green), 10 others (lost deposits)
def. 1992 (Conservative Government): Bernard Gentry (Conservative), Mike Tuffrey (Liberal Democrats), 2 others (lost deposits)
def. 1997 (Labour Government): Keith Kerr (Liberal Democrats), Richard Bacon (Conservative), 3 others (lost deposits)
def. 2001 (Labour Government): Anthony Bottrall (Liberal Democrats), Gareth Compton (Conservative), 3 others (lost deposits)
def. 2005 (Labour Government): Charles Anglin (Liberal Democrats), Edward Heckels (Conservative), 4 others (lost deposits)
2010-2015: Caroline Pidgeon (Liberal Democrats)
def. 2010 (Conservative Liberal Democrats Government): Steve Reed (Labour), Glyn Chambers (Conservative), 6 others (lost deposits)
So the premise is that the Council finally succeeds in getting Hoey deselected before the 2010 General Election and slots former Council Leader Steve Reed in. Hoey decides against standing as an Independent, and instead backs the LibDems as a way of spiting Reed. Labour suffers as the electorate disapproves of the stabbing in the back, but is unwilling to vote Conservative. Pidgeon subsequently wins the seat on a nats hair majority.
Interesting. What's the ideology of the British Worker's Party? Are they a Tory offshoot?
Robert Halfon has this thing about rebranding the Tories as the true party of the working class - he wants to make their logo a ladder. It probably has something to do with that.
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