List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage
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House of Clarence: Lionel of Antwerp lives two years longer and have a son witj Violante Visconti-Edward, born in 1370. Edward of Clarence remains loyal to Richard II and takes throne only after his natural death (which happens in 1402 ITTL).
Edward IV (1370-1420) King of England 1402-1420 m. 1395 Joan Holland (1380-1434)
1) Lionel I (1398-1437) King of England 1420-1437 m. 1416 Isabella of Portugal (1397-1471)
2) Violante (1399)
3) Philippa (1401-1453) m. 1417 Edward I of Portugal (1391-1438)
4) Margaret (1403-1440) m. 1418 Charles IV of Navarre (1397-1448) has issue, including Eleanor, Queen of England (see above)
5) Edward (1404-1409)
6) Elizabeth (1408-1459) m. 1427 Philip III (1396-1467) Duke of Burgundy, has issue
Edward IV (1370-1420) King of England 1402-1420 m. 1395 Joan Holland (1380-1434)
1) Lionel I (1398-1437) King of England 1420-1437 m. 1416 Isabella of Portugal (1397-1471)
1) Edward (1418-1431)
2) Lionel II (1420-1457) King of England 1437-1457 m. 1440 Eleanor of Navarre*
3) John II (1423-1478) King of England 1457-1478 m. 1447 Eleanor Beaufort (1431-1501)
1) Lionel III (1452-1507) King of England 1478-1507
2) John (1455-1522)
3) Isabel (1457-1461)
4) Eleanor (1458-1521)
5) Margaret (1466-1513)
2) Violante (1399)
3) Philippa (1401-1453) m. 1417 Edward I of Portugal (1391-1438)
4) Margaret (1403-1440) m. 1418 Charles IV of Navarre (1397-1448) has issue, including Eleanor, Queen of England (see above)
5) Edward (1404-1409)
6) Elizabeth (1408-1459) m. 1427 Philip III (1396-1467) Duke of Burgundy, has issue
Willem II, King of Holland* [1652-1688], Stadtholder of Holland, Zeeland, Utrecht, Guelders and Overijssel [1647-1652], Prince of Orange, Baron of Breda [1647-1652] (1626-1688) m: 1641 Mary of England (1631-1671)
*I wasn’t sure what his plans would be for a “centralized” state in the Netherlands. And if and how he would be crowned king
†Mary originally wanted to name OTL William III this, Amalia of Solms overruled her.
‡sister to Juliane of Hesse-Eschwege who manages to keep her legs closed until she gets married to the king of Sweden TTL
**He gets divorced from his Danish wife in the 1680s as originally planned. Remarries to Dutch Wilhelmina and they have kids.
††Have no idea who this girl will be, since with a POD in 1650, it seems rather deterministic to speculate about the identity of said girl would be. Although I could see it being a TTL granddaughter of Charles II or James II, or a daughter of either of gentleman by a second wife (or a late-born daughter of a surviving Henry of Oatlands)
@Janprimus @HJ Tulp @The Professor @Valena @isabella @VVD0D95 @pompejus @Parma
Karel Willem†, King of Holland [1688-1709], Duke of Guelders [1673-1709], Prince of Orange [1652-1688] (1650-1709) m: 1667 Charlotte of Hesse-Eschwege (b.1653) ‡
Elisabeth Maria (b.1672) m: 1685
Hendrik (b.1673, d. 1673)
Charlotte (b.1675) m: 1690
Karel II Frederik, King of Holland, Duke of Guelders [from 1709] (b.1678) m: 1695 (English princess††)
Willem August (b.1679)
Juliana (b.1681, d.1681)
Louisa Katharina (b.1653) m: 1673 Karl, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel (b.1654), with issue
Willem Frederik (b.1654, d.1708)
Henriëtte Elisabeth (b.1657) m:
Wilhelmina Amalia (b.1661) m: 1681 Karl II, Elector Palatine of the Rhine (b.1651)**, with issue
Lodewijk Willem (b.1662)
*I wasn’t sure what his plans would be for a “centralized” state in the Netherlands. And if and how he would be crowned king
†Mary originally wanted to name OTL William III this, Amalia of Solms overruled her.
‡sister to Juliane of Hesse-Eschwege who manages to keep her legs closed until she gets married to the king of Sweden TTL
**He gets divorced from his Danish wife in the 1680s as originally planned. Remarries to Dutch Wilhelmina and they have kids.
††Have no idea who this girl will be, since with a POD in 1650, it seems rather deterministic to speculate about the identity of said girl would be. Although I could see it being a TTL granddaughter of Charles II or James II, or a daughter of either of gentleman by a second wife (or a late-born daughter of a surviving Henry of Oatlands)
@Janprimus @HJ Tulp @The Professor @Valena @isabella @VVD0D95 @pompejus @Parma
Charles I of Burgundy m. Catherine of France(a) Isabella of Bourbon d. 1465(b) Margaret of York(c)
1b. Mary of Burgundy d. 1482 m.Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor r. 1510
1b1a. Eleanor of Austria b. 1476 m. Ferdinand II of Naples d. 1503(a) Charles of Naples(b)
1b1a?a. Alfonso III of Naples b. 1497
1b1a?b. Emmanuele I Filiberto of Savoy b. 1510
1b2a. Ernest of Austria b. 1477 d.1510 m. Bianca Maria Sforza
1b2a?a. Emperor Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor b. 1499 m. Anne of Bohemia-Hungary
1b3a. Eleanor of Austria b. 1480 m. Juan, Duke of Asturias d. 1497(a) Ferdinand III of Aragon and Castile(b)
1b3a?b. Alfonso XII of Aragon and Castile b. 1503
1b4a. Franz of Austria b. 1481 m. Maria of Aragon
1b4a?a. Ferdinand of Austria, Count of Tyrol b. 1500 m. Bona Sforza, Duchess of Milan b. 1494
2c. Charles II of Burgundy b. 1468 m. Anna of Aragon b. 1473
2c?a. Ferdinand I of Aragon b. 1493
3c. Isabelle of Burgundy b. 1470 m. Charles VII of France
3c?a. Charles Orlando b. 1488 m. Catherine of Aragon
1b. Mary of Burgundy d. 1482 m.Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor r. 1510
1b1a. Eleanor of Austria b. 1476 m. Ferdinand II of Naples d. 1503(a) Charles of Naples(b)
1b1a?a. Alfonso III of Naples b. 1497
1b1a?b. Emmanuele I Filiberto of Savoy b. 1510
1b2a. Ernest of Austria b. 1477 d.1510 m. Bianca Maria Sforza
1b2a?a. Emperor Rudolf II, Holy Roman Emperor b. 1499 m. Anne of Bohemia-Hungary
1b3a. Eleanor of Austria b. 1480 m. Juan, Duke of Asturias d. 1497(a) Ferdinand III of Aragon and Castile(b)
1b3a?b. Alfonso XII of Aragon and Castile b. 1503
1b4a. Franz of Austria b. 1481 m. Maria of Aragon
1b4a?a. Ferdinand of Austria, Count of Tyrol b. 1500 m. Bona Sforza, Duchess of Milan b. 1494
2c. Charles II of Burgundy b. 1468 m. Anna of Aragon b. 1473
2c?a. Ferdinand I of Aragon b. 1493
3c. Isabelle of Burgundy b. 1470 m. Charles VII of France
3c?a. Charles Orlando b. 1488 m. Catherine of Aragon
Naruhito of Japan (徳仁, b. 1960) married Yoshie Kashiwabara (柏原芳恵, b.1965) on 4th of May, 1992
- Prince Tomohito (智仁), b. 3rd of March, 1993
- Princess Yukiko (有希子), b. 17th of October, 1996
- Prince Musashi (武蔵), b. 31st of May, 1999
This is my first time in this thread after lurking for a long time, so I'm just testing the waters.
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Terraces and Pagodas scenario
Independent Luzon/Selurong or Kaylangitan avoids her marriage with Lontok and Bolkiah gets owned by the Majapahit Emperor
Emperors of Majapahit
Raden Wijaya, styled Krirtarajasa Jayavardhana[:201 (1294–1309)
Kalagemet, styled Jayanagara (1309–1328):233–234
Sri Gitarja, styled Tribhuwana Wijayatunggadewi (1328–1350):234
Hayam Wuruk, styled Sri Rajasanagara (1350–1389):239 Majapahit Golden Age
Wikramawardhana styled Bhra Hyang Wisesa Aji Wikrama, (1389–1429), Majapahit civil war Paregreg war, success defeating Bhre Wirabhumi
Ratu (queen) Suhita (1429–1447) :242
Kritavijaya, styled Brawijaya I (1447–1451):242
Rajasavardhana,[24]:242 born Bhre Pamotan, styled Brawijaya II (1451–1453)
Interregnum (1453–1456)
Bhre Wengker, Purvavisesha:242 or Girishawardhana, styled Brawijaya III (1456–1466)
Singhavikramavardhana,:242 Pandanalas, or Suraprabhawa, styled Brawijaya IV (1466–1468 or 1478[8](p18))
Bhre Kertabhumi, styled Brawijaya V (1468–1478)
Girindrawardhana, styled Brawijaya VI (1478–1489)
Prabu Udara, styled Brawijaya VII (1489–1517)
Kings of Tagalogs
Kaylangitan/Dyavaprthivi I m. ?[1] (1517-1530)
Alfonso I/ Brawijaya VIII [2] (1530-1566)
Joao I/Jayanagara II (1566-1620)
Fernao I/Hayam Wuruk II (1620-1640)
Vassal of Portugal
Joao II(1640-1680)
Maria I/Tribhuwana II(1680-1720) m. Fernando of Portugal(House of Avis-Rajasa replaces the old royal house)
Carlos I(1720-1745)
Joao III(1745-1760)
Isabel I(1760-1810)
Afonso I/Brawijaya IX(1820-1860)
Fernao III(1840-1890)
Manuel I/Brawijaya X(1890-1920)
Overthrown in 1910 and Tagalog Republic is declared becoming completely independent from Portugal
Pretenders
Manuel I/Brawijaya X(1890-1920)
Manuel II(1920-1940)
Francisco I/Jayanagara II(1940-2012)
Fernao IV(2002 to Present)
1.Dayang Kaylangitan does not marry Lontok and marries a noble from the Rajasa Dynasty, the term ‘King of the Tagalogs’ is used for the rulers of Luzon and she takes the title from the Majapahit and makes her kingdom as a daughter or successor of Majapahit as the Queen after Majapahit was dissolved and its last ruler is defeated by Demak.
2.Converts to Catholicsm via Portuguese influence, helps the Portuguese in their missions in Japan but the Kingdom remains having a large hindu population even in the present.
@Gintoki Sakata
Independent Luzon/Selurong or Kaylangitan avoids her marriage with Lontok and Bolkiah gets owned by the Majapahit Emperor
Emperors of Majapahit
Raden Wijaya, styled Krirtarajasa Jayavardhana[:201 (1294–1309)
Kalagemet, styled Jayanagara (1309–1328):233–234
Sri Gitarja, styled Tribhuwana Wijayatunggadewi (1328–1350):234
Hayam Wuruk, styled Sri Rajasanagara (1350–1389):239 Majapahit Golden Age
Wikramawardhana styled Bhra Hyang Wisesa Aji Wikrama, (1389–1429), Majapahit civil war Paregreg war, success defeating Bhre Wirabhumi
Ratu (queen) Suhita (1429–1447) :242
Kritavijaya, styled Brawijaya I (1447–1451):242
Rajasavardhana,[24]:242 born Bhre Pamotan, styled Brawijaya II (1451–1453)
Interregnum (1453–1456)
Bhre Wengker, Purvavisesha:242 or Girishawardhana, styled Brawijaya III (1456–1466)
Singhavikramavardhana,:242 Pandanalas, or Suraprabhawa, styled Brawijaya IV (1466–1468 or 1478[8](p18))
Bhre Kertabhumi, styled Brawijaya V (1468–1478)
Girindrawardhana, styled Brawijaya VI (1478–1489)
Prabu Udara, styled Brawijaya VII (1489–1517)
Kings of Tagalogs
Kaylangitan/Dyavaprthivi I m. ?[1] (1517-1530)
Alfonso I/ Brawijaya VIII [2] (1530-1566)
Joao I/Jayanagara II (1566-1620)
Fernao I/Hayam Wuruk II (1620-1640)
Vassal of Portugal
Joao II(1640-1680)
Maria I/Tribhuwana II(1680-1720) m. Fernando of Portugal(House of Avis-Rajasa replaces the old royal house)
Carlos I(1720-1745)
Joao III(1745-1760)
Isabel I(1760-1810)
Afonso I/Brawijaya IX(1820-1860)
Fernao III(1840-1890)
Manuel I/Brawijaya X(1890-1920)
Overthrown in 1910 and Tagalog Republic is declared becoming completely independent from Portugal
Pretenders
Manuel I/Brawijaya X(1890-1920)
Manuel II(1920-1940)
Francisco I/Jayanagara II(1940-2012)
Fernao IV(2002 to Present)
1.Dayang Kaylangitan does not marry Lontok and marries a noble from the Rajasa Dynasty, the term ‘King of the Tagalogs’ is used for the rulers of Luzon and she takes the title from the Majapahit and makes her kingdom as a daughter or successor of Majapahit as the Queen after Majapahit was dissolved and its last ruler is defeated by Demak.
2.Converts to Catholicsm via Portuguese influence, helps the Portuguese in their missions in Japan but the Kingdom remains having a large hindu population even in the present.
@Gintoki Sakata
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Irene Angelina m. Philip I, Holy Roman Emperor
Beatrice of Swabia b. 1195 m. Henry III[1]
Philip II of Swabia b. 1197 m. Mathilde of Brunswick[2]
Kunigunde of Swabia b. 1198 m. Valdemar II of Denmark
Elizabeth b. 1202 m. Henry III of
Constance b. 1205 m. Sancho II of Portugal
Frederick, duke of Styria b. 1210 m. Margaret of Styria[3]
1.Son of Berengaria and Richard I
2. Daughter of Otto of Brunswick and Ingeborg of Denmark
3. The Styrian Babenbergs are pushed down of the succession by the issue of Frederick I of Austria and Eleanor of Brittany
Beatrice of Swabia b. 1195 m. Henry III[1]
Philip II of Swabia b. 1197 m. Mathilde of Brunswick[2]
Kunigunde of Swabia b. 1198 m. Valdemar II of Denmark
Elizabeth b. 1202 m. Henry III of
Constance b. 1205 m. Sancho II of Portugal
Frederick, duke of Styria b. 1210 m. Margaret of Styria[3]
1.Son of Berengaria and Richard I
2. Daughter of Otto of Brunswick and Ingeborg of Denmark
3. The Styrian Babenbergs are pushed down of the succession by the issue of Frederick I of Austria and Eleanor of Brittany
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I'm not sure Holland would be the name. King of the United Provinces of the Netherlands perhaps?
Working Progress
Edward Tudor survives into adulthood.
Henry VIII of England (b. 28/6/1491, r. 22/4/1509, d. 28/1/1547)
Spouses, A) Catherine of Aragon (b. 1485, m. 1509; annulled 1533, d. 1536) ¥) Elizabeth Blount (c. 1498/1502–Mistress. 1519-1539/1540) B) Anne Boleyn (b. c. 1501, m. 1533; executed 1536) C) Jane Seymour (b. c. 1508, m. 1536; died 1537) D) Anne of Cleves (b. c. 1515, m. 1540; annulled 1540, d. 1557) E) Catherine Howard (b. c. 1523, m. 1540; executed 1542) F) Catherine Parr (b. 1512, m. 1543, d. 1548)
Issues
Notes
On 12 October 1553, Edward turned 16, with a mature outlook, he was granted his own reign rather than two more years of regency. One of his first acts as monarch was to find suitors for his two older sisters.
[1] At 37, Princess Mary, was seen as too old for many potential suitors, and Edward feared marrying her off as a second wife to Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, as any child from this union would have the Catholic backing to the English throne.
Edward wanted a Protestant of high nobility to care for his sister.
This came in the form of Prince John, the second son of King Frederick I of Denmark and his second wife, Sophie of Pomerania. John, ruled the duchies of Schleswig and of Holstein jointly with his brother, Adolf of Denmark, and his half-brother, King Christian III of Denmark.
With a large dowry, in acknowledgement of Mary being the legitimate daughter and sister of a King, the pair were married on 21st February 1554. Mary lived happily at Hansborg Castle, a newly built magnificent Renaissance palace situated east of the city of Haderslev, built by John.
Mary became weak and ill from May 1558. In pain, possibly from ovarian cysts or uterine cancer, she died on 17 November 1558, aged 42.
[2] Elizabeth at 21 was an ideal match for many suitors, the best suited was Crown Prince Eric of Sweden, heir to the throne.
The wedding ceremony was split between England and Sweden. During the service and feast at the Palace of Whitehall, Edward was introduced to Eric’s sister, Princess Catherine Vasa; this began a love that would last nearly 45 years.
[3] The first born to Edward was named after his mother. At 16 years old, Edward arranged the marriage of his beloved daughter to Sebastian, the young king of Portugal.
[4] Named after his English grandfather, at 11 months, Edward, succeeded to his fathers throne, following Sebastian’s death during the Battle of Alcácer Quibir (Battle of the Three Kings)
Edward Tudor survives into adulthood.
Henry VIII of England (b. 28/6/1491, r. 22/4/1509, d. 28/1/1547)
Spouses, A) Catherine of Aragon (b. 1485, m. 1509; annulled 1533, d. 1536) ¥) Elizabeth Blount (c. 1498/1502–Mistress. 1519-1539/1540) B) Anne Boleyn (b. c. 1501, m. 1533; executed 1536) C) Jane Seymour (b. c. 1508, m. 1536; died 1537) D) Anne of Cleves (b. c. 1515, m. 1540; annulled 1540, d. 1557) E) Catherine Howard (b. c. 1523, m. 1540; executed 1542) F) Catherine Parr (b. 1512, m. 1543, d. 1548)
Issues
1A) Unnamed stillborn daughter (31/1/1510)
2A) Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1/1/1511-22/2/1511)
3A) Unnamed son (17/9/1513)
4A) Unnamed stillborn son (8/1/1515)
5A) Princess Mary, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein-Haderslev (18/2/1516-17/11/1558) m. 1554, John II, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Haderslev (29/6/1521-1/10/1580)
No Issues
6A) Unnamed daughter (10/11/1518)
7¥) Henry FitzRoy, 1st Duke of Richmond and Somerset (15/6/1519-23/7/1536) m. 1533, Lady Mary Howard (b. c. 1519–7/12/1557)
No Issues
8B) Princess Elizabeth, Queen and Regent of Sweden (7/9/1533-24/3/1603) m. 1554, Eric XIV of Sweden (b. 13/12/1533, r. 29/9/1560, abdication, 25/1/1569, d. 26/2/1577)
1) Gustav (b. 20/5/1556, r. 25/1/1569, d. 1616)
2)
9B) Unnamed son (8/9/1534)
10B) Unnamed son (29/1/1536)
11C) Edward VI of England (b. 12/10/1537, r. 28/1/1547, d. 21/4/1599) m. 1556, Princess Catherine Vasa of Sweden (6/6/1539–21/12/1610)
1) Princess Jane, Queen and Regent of Portugal (4/3/1560–16/8/1619) [3] m. 1576, Sebastian of Portugal (20/1/1554 –4/8/1578)
1) Edward II of Portugal (b. 22/9/1577, regency, 4/8/1578, d. 2/8/1534) [4]
2) Princess Margaret (1562–1590) m. 1580, James VI of Scotland (19/6/1566–27/3/1625)
3) Edward VII of England (1563–1625) m.
4) Prince Henry (1564-1567)
5) Prince Gustav, Duke of York (1566–1625) m. 1584,
1) m. 1617, Charlotte de La Trémoille (9/12/1599–31/3/1664)
6) Prince Henry, Duke of Richmond and Lancaster (1569–1636) m.
7) Prince John (1572–1573)
8) Princess Catherine (1573–1583)
9) Princess Elizabeth, Queen of France (1574–1630) m. 1600, Henry IV of France (13/12/1553–14/5/1610)
1) Henry V of France (27/9/1601-30/9/1663)
2) Jeanne, Madame Royale (22/11/1602-6/10/1644)
3) Princess Elizabeth (10/2/1604-27/12/1663)
4) Louis, Duke of Orléans (16/4/1607-17 November 1611)
5) Antoine, Duke of Orléans (25/4/1608-2/2/1660)
6) Princess Maria (25/11/1609-10/9/1669)
10) Prince Eric, Duke of Sussex and Buckingham (1577–1623) m. 1598, Anne Stanley (11/5/1580-8/10/1647)
1) Catherine (7/3/1600- 16/8/1679)
2) Edward (19/2/1602-20/6/1611)
3) Jane (9/1/1605-4/9/1672)
4) Anne (19/3/1608-10/7/1680) m. 1626, James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby (31/1/1607 –15/10/1651)
(9 August 1620 -7/2/1655)
William (14/11/1622-5/8/1676)
11) Princess Mary (4/9/1579)
12) Princess Mary (9/11/1580-26/4/1583)
13) Princess Anne, Queen of Denmark (26/9/1582–9/5/1616) m. Christian IV of Denmark (12/4/1577 –28/2/1648)
Notes
On 12 October 1553, Edward turned 16, with a mature outlook, he was granted his own reign rather than two more years of regency. One of his first acts as monarch was to find suitors for his two older sisters.
[1] At 37, Princess Mary, was seen as too old for many potential suitors, and Edward feared marrying her off as a second wife to Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor, as any child from this union would have the Catholic backing to the English throne.
Edward wanted a Protestant of high nobility to care for his sister.
This came in the form of Prince John, the second son of King Frederick I of Denmark and his second wife, Sophie of Pomerania. John, ruled the duchies of Schleswig and of Holstein jointly with his brother, Adolf of Denmark, and his half-brother, King Christian III of Denmark.
With a large dowry, in acknowledgement of Mary being the legitimate daughter and sister of a King, the pair were married on 21st February 1554. Mary lived happily at Hansborg Castle, a newly built magnificent Renaissance palace situated east of the city of Haderslev, built by John.
Mary became weak and ill from May 1558. In pain, possibly from ovarian cysts or uterine cancer, she died on 17 November 1558, aged 42.
[2] Elizabeth at 21 was an ideal match for many suitors, the best suited was Crown Prince Eric of Sweden, heir to the throne.
The wedding ceremony was split between England and Sweden. During the service and feast at the Palace of Whitehall, Edward was introduced to Eric’s sister, Princess Catherine Vasa; this began a love that would last nearly 45 years.
[3] The first born to Edward was named after his mother. At 16 years old, Edward arranged the marriage of his beloved daughter to Sebastian, the young king of Portugal.
[4] Named after his English grandfather, at 11 months, Edward, succeeded to his fathers throne, following Sebastian’s death during the Battle of Alcácer Quibir (Battle of the Three Kings)
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Before she married William of Austria, Joanna of Naples was a possible bride for Ernest of Bavaria-Munich in 1393-94. He would eventually marry Elisabetta Visconti and she would go on to marry William of Austria and the Count of La Marche, and succeed her brother in 1414 as the last legitimate member of the House of Capet-Durazzo, and it’s parent house; Capet-Anjou.
Here the idea is simple; Joanna II of Naples marries Ernest of Bavaria-Munich, and so on.
Any thoughts and criticisms are wholeheartedly welcomed. Will hopefully be adding another generation or two onto this.
Here the idea is simple; Joanna II of Naples marries Ernest of Bavaria-Munich, and so on.
Any thoughts and criticisms are wholeheartedly welcomed. Will hopefully be adding another generation or two onto this.
- Joanna II, Queen of Naples B.1371 D.1435, ruled 1414-1435. Married Ernest, Duke of Bavaria-Munich B.1373 D.1438
- Gian I Carlo,King of Naples B.1397 D. 1456, ruled 1435-1456. Married Marguerite of Orléans B.1406 D.1472
- Gian II Ludovico, King of Naples B.1440 D.1461, ruled 1456-1461.
- Stefano I, King of Naples B.1443 D. 1502, ruled 1461-1502. Married Bona of Savoy B.1449 D.1503
- Gian III Francesco, King of Naples B. 1469 D. 1540, ruled 1502-1540. Married Anna Sforza B.1476 D.1497
- Stefano, Duke of Calabria B.1471 D.1518, married Beatrice d’Este B.1476 D. 1539
- Gian IV Sigismondo, King of Naples B.1501 D.1572, ruled 1540-1572. Married Jacoba of Bavaria B.1510 D.1579
- Gian V Massimiliano, King of Naples B.1541 D. 1607, ruled 1579-1607. Married Bianca of Portugal B.1549 D. 1599
- Gian IV Sigismondo, King of Naples B.1501 D.1572, ruled 1540-1572. Married Jacoba of Bavaria B.1510 D.1579
- Ernest II, Duke of Bavaria-Munich B.1399 D.1479.
- Further Dukes of Bavaria-Munich
- Gian I Carlo,King of Naples B.1397 D. 1456, ruled 1435-1456. Married Marguerite of Orléans B.1406 D.1472
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Reminds me of an idea, where Charles, Prince of Wales married Barbara Joan "Barbra" Streisand (April 24, 1942)
Bolesław, son of Casimir the Just, is not killed by falling tree as teenager in 1182/3 and outlives father (who thus have less inective to try to get another male heir, thus, his brothers Leszek and Konrad, who were born after his OTL death are butterflied away). Bolesław V Kazimierzowic is in his mid 20s at the time of father's death and thus inherits Lesser Poland and Mazovia without bigger problems. Bolesław marries Vysheslava of Halych, OTL wife of his cousin Odon Mieszkowic (thus butterflying away Władysław Odonic, with Odon having different wife, with whom he has no sons, and thus all later generations of Piasts of Greater Poland, ITTL Władysław Spindleshanks is last Piast of Greater Poland and after his death in 1231 line of Casimir the Just inherits also Greater Poland. Unfortunately, being strongest Polish dukes, Piasts of Casimir's line are main target of Mongol invasion ). With succession in Cracow being more stable and with less Piasts lines around reunification of Poland came earlier than IOTL. Also, unlike his OTL brother Konrad of Mazovia, Bolesław V, being ruler of bigger territory, does not need to invite Teutonic Order to his lands.
Bolesław V (ca 1168-1211) Duke of Cracow, Supreme Duke of Poland 1194-1211 m. 1185 Vysheslava of Halych (ca 1170-1220)
1) Kazimierz III (1190-1234) Duke of Cracow, Supreme Duke of Poland 1211-1234, also Duke of Greater Poland 1231-1234 m. 1215 Judita of Bohemia (1200-1230)
@krieger
Bolesław V (ca 1168-1211) Duke of Cracow, Supreme Duke of Poland 1194-1211 m. 1185 Vysheslava of Halych (ca 1170-1220)
1) Kazimierz III (1190-1234) Duke of Cracow, Supreme Duke of Poland 1211-1234, also Duke of Greater Poland 1231-1234 m. 1215 Judita of Bohemia (1200-1230)
1) Bolesław VI (1217-1241) Supreme Duke of Poland 1234-1241*, m. Violante of Hungary
2) Helena (1220-1267)
3) Kazimierz (1222-1227)
4) Przemysł I (1224-1289) Supreme Duke of Poland 1241-1255, King of Poland 1255-1289 m. 1246 Kinga of Hungary (1234-1292)
* Killed in battle against Mongols, later canonized as martyr.@krieger
A full version of the tree (til today or to a last days of Polish monarchy) would be an awsome thing (I'd like to see it).
Maybe not full tree (with one hell of butterflies cumulating from 12th century onwards it is not easy) but list of monarchs? Maybe one day.