List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

There isn’t anything saying that John doesn’t have Katherine as a mistress and once Constance dies like in OTL, that John doesn’t marry his mistress and legitimatises his children.

John, Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) m a) 1359, Blanche of Lancaster (1342-1368) b) 1371 Constance of Castile (1354-1394) c) 1396, Katherine Swynford (1350 –1403) ¥) mistress Marie de St. Hilaire of Hainaut, a lady-in-waiting to John's mother, Queen Philipp

1¥) Blanche (1359–1388/89), m. 1381, Sir Thomas Morieux (1355–1387)
2a) Philippa (1360–1415) m. 1387, King John I of Portugal (1357–1433)
3a) John (1362–1365)
4a) Elizabeth (1364–1426), m a) 1380, John Hastings, 3rd Earl of Pembroke (1372–1389), annulled 1383, b) 1386, John Holland, 1st Duke of Exeter (1350–1400), c) 1400, Sir John Cornwall, 1st Baron Fanhope and Milbroke (1364-1443)
5a) Edward (1365)
6a) John (1366–1367)
7a) Henry IV of England (1367–1413) m. a) Mary de Bohun (1369–1394); b) Joanna of Navarre (1368–1437)
8a) Isabel (1368)
9b) Katherine (b.1372-1418) m. King Henry III of Castile (1379–1406)
10c) John Beaufort, 1st Earl of Somerset (1373–1410)
11b) John (1375-1375)
12c) Cardinal Henry Beaufort, Bishop of Winchester (1375–1447)
13c) Thomas Beaufort, Earl of Dorset (1377–1427), m Margaret Neville (1384-?)
14b) Edward, Duke of Lincoln (b.1379-1521) m. 1395, Constance of York
15c) Joan Beaufort (1379–1440); m. a) Robert Ferrers, 5th Baron Boteler of Wem, b) Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmoreland.
16b) Peter, Duke of Clarence (b.1382-1428) m. Lady Elizabeth Percy
17b) Mary (b.1383-1433) m. 1397, David Stewart, Duke of Rothesay (1378 –1402)
1) Robert IV of Scotland (1399-)​

[1] Constance was born in about 1375, the only daughter of Edmund of Langley, 1st Duke of York, and his wife, Isabella of Castile (sister of Constance of Castile)
[2] Elizabeth Percy, the daughter of Sir Henry "Hotspur" Percy and Lady Elizabeth Mortimer, daughter of Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March[4] and Philippa of Clarence, daughter of Lionel of Antwerp (son of King Edward III of England).
 
Surviving children of a surviving Maid of Norway who marries Edward II. I imagine there would also be a few miscarriages/stillbirths in there as well. Feel free to add input on these marriages.



Margaret Eriksdotter of Norway, Queen of Scots (b. 1283) m. Edward II, King of England (b. 1284) in 1291/1228, had issue
1) Margaret (b. 1300) m. Charles II, Count of Alençon (b. 1297)​
2) Alexander IV, King of Scots (b. 1302) m. Ingeborg Hakonsdotter of Norway (b. 1299)​
3) Edward III, King of England (b. 1303) m. Isabelle of France (b. 1310)​
4) Eleanor (b. 1306) m. Eric Christoffersen of Denmark (b. 1307, d. 1332/1333) in 1322 (a); Henry of Grosmont, 1st Duke of Lancaster (b. 1310) in 1333 (b)​
5) David, earl of Cornwall (b. 1308) m. Maria de la Cerda y Lara (b. 1310)​
6) Isabel (b. 1311) m. Louis I, Count of Flanders (b. 1304)​
7) Henry (b. 1312) entered the Church​
8) Joan (b. 1315) m. Charles of Luxembourg, King of Germany (b. 1316)​
9) John, earl of Huntingdon (b. 1319) m. Isabel de Beaumont (b. 1320) in 1337​
 
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Why have the older son inherit Scotland? I feel like usually the older son gets the bigger inheritance, which I think was England at that time.
Why not? England is the senior kingdom, true, but I’m sure Edward and Margaret can arrange for their succession basically as they wish. Besides, the son of Alexander and Ingeborg Hakonsdotter is set to inherit Norway so I imagine it would make more sense for them to inherit Scotland.
 
Edward and Margaret's eldest son is going to inherit everything - Scotland and England, and if he marries the Norwegian heiress, his son will be King of Norway as well. Margaret may want to split the inheritance, but I can't see the English standing for it...
 
Edward and Margaret's eldest son is going to inherit everything - Scotland and England, and if he marries the Norwegian heiress, his son will be King of Norway as well. Margaret may want to split the inheritance, but I can't see the English standing for it...
Most likely case... but England being unwilling to be part of that union is not so unlikely if they feel they will NOT be the senior partner in it
 
Most likely case... but England being unwilling to be part of that union is not so unlikely if they feel they will NOT be the senior partner in it
Hadn't England anyway already much higher population? And probably it had too bigger army and better economy. So England would still be that number one on the union.
 
Hadn't England anyway already much higher population? And probably it had too bigger army and better economy. So England would still be that number one on the union.
If we are talking about only England and Scotland yes, but any kind of interest/involvement in Norway (and more in general Scandinavia) would shale things in favour of Scotland. And if England start to put unreasonable request about residences, time spent outside England, education of the heirs and similar you can get the same outcome
 
Plans of marriage of Luis of Beja and Hedwig Jagiellon came into being (that is not very likely scenario, but not totally impossible-says, that Luis is determined to get royal title and marriage with Hedwig, who has only one brother, looks like good idea to him, meanwhile Hohenzollern is not available for Hedwig, who is getting old (by standards of the time) so Sigismund the Old agrees for that marriage. As result House of Aviz not only survives but gets another kingdom.

Louis (1506-1555) Duke of Beja, m. Hedwig of Poland (1513-1573)

1) Sigismund (1536-1546)

2) Manuel (1538-1569) Duke of Beja, m. Maria of Guimarães (1538-1577)

1) Louis (1559-1567)​
2) Catherine (1562)​
3) Edward II (1564-1602) Duke of Beja, King of Portugal 1578, m. Catherine Michelle of Spain (1567-1597)​
4) Isabella (1566-1618) m. Philip II (1527-1598) King of Spain (as fifth wife)​

3) Isabella (1541)

4) John (1543-1548)

5) Louis II (1546-1603) King of Poland 1573, m. Magdalene of Jülich-Cleves Berg (1553-1633)

1) Sigismund (1576-1580)​
2) Louis III (1578-1634) King of Poland 1603, m. Constance of Austria (1588-1631)​
3) Hedwig (1581)​
4) Sigismund (1585-1608)​
 
Plans of marriage of Luis of Beja and Hedwig Jagiellon came into being (that is not very likely scenario, but not totally impossible-says, that Luis is determined to get royal title and marriage with Hedwig, who has only one brother, looks like good idea to him, meanwhile Hohenzollern is not available for Hedwig, who is getting old (by standards of the time) so Sigismund the Old agrees for that marriage. As result House of Aviz not only survives but gets another kingdom.

Louis (1506-1555) Duke of Beja, m. Hedwig of Poland (1513-1573)

1) Sigismund (1536-1546)

2) Manuel (1538-1569) Duke of Beja, m. Maria of Guimarães (1538-1577)

1) Louis (1559-1567)​
2) Catherine (1562)​
3) Edward II (1564-1602) Duke of Beja, King of Portugal 1578, m. Catherine Michelle of Spain (1567-1597)​
4) Isabella (1566-1618) m. Philip II (1527-1598) King of Spain (as fifth wife)​

3) Isabella (1541)

4) John (1543-1548)

5) Louis II (1546-1603) King of Poland 1573, m. Magdalene of Jülich-Cleves Berg (1553-1633)

1) Sigismund (1576-1580)​
2) Louis III (1578-1634) King of Poland 1603, m. Constance of Austria (1588-1631)​
3) Hedwig (1581)​
4) Sigismund (1585-1608)​
Nice! I had no idea such a marriage was even proposed.
 
Casimir Jagiellon marries Anna of Saxony

Casimir III* (1427-1492) Grand Duke of Lithuania 1440, King of Poland 1447, m. Anna of Saxony (1437-1512)

1) Vladislaus (1456-1457)

2) Hedwig (1458-1509) m. Matthias Corvinus (1443-1490) King of Hungary and Bohemia

1) John II/I (1476-1532) King of Bohemia and Hungary 1490​

3) Vladislaus (1460-1462)

4) Casimir IV (1462-1516) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1492, m. Catherine of Pomerania (1465-1526)

1) Hedwig (1486-1488)​
2) Vladislaus (1491)​
3) Casimir V (1493-1550) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1516​
4) Hedwig (1495-1527)​
5) Anna (1497-1562)​
6) Sophia (1501-1548)​

5) Sophia (1464-1469)

6) Anna (1467)

7) Vladislaus (1468-1469)

8) Sophia (1471-1518) m. Bogislaw X (1454-1523) Duke of Pomerania, has issue

* That is number which Casimir IV used during his reign
 
Casimir Jagiellon marries Anna of Saxony

Casimir III* (1427-1492) Grand Duke of Lithuania 1440, King of Poland 1447, m. Anna of Saxony (1437-1512)

1) Vladislaus (1456-1457)

2) Hedwig (1458-1509) m. Matthias Corvinus (1443-1490) King of Hungary and Bohemia

1) John II/I (1476-1532) King of Bohemia and Hungary 1490​

3) Vladislaus (1460-1462)

4) Casimir IV (1462-1516) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1492, m. Catherine of Pomerania (1465-1526)

1) Hedwig (1486-1488)​
2) Vladislaus (1491)​
3) Casimir V (1493-1550) Grand Duke of Lithuania, King of Poland 1516​
4) Hedwig (1495-1527)​
5) Anna (1497-1562)​
6) Sophia (1501-1548)​

5) Sophia (1464-1469)

6) Anna (1467)

7) Vladislaus (1468-1469)

8) Sophia (1471-1518) m. Bogislaw X (1454-1523) Duke of Pomerania, has issue

* That is number which Casimir IV used during his reign
I'm guessing Elisabeth of Austria either died young or was married to the duke of Burgundy (as Friedrich III tried go do OTL)?
 
Scenario: A surviving Philip, Duke of Burgundy. He makes various important political decisions.

Philip II, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1478: d.1539) m. Joanna I, Queen of Aragon and Castile (b.1479: d.1555) (a)

1a) Eleanor, Archduke of Austria (b.1498: d.1558) m. Sigismund I, King of Poland (b.1467: d.1548) (a)​
1a) Sigismund II, King of Poland (b.1517: d.1567) m. Anna of Cleves (b.1515: d.1553) (a)​
1a) Casimir, Prince of Poland (b.1539: d.1546)​
2a) Sigismund III, King of Poland (b.1541)​
3a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1544)​
4a) Albert, Prince of Poland (b.1546)​
2a) Isabella, Princess of Poland (b.1519: d.1520)​
3a) Helena, Princess of Poland (b.1520: d.1575) m. John Zápolya (b.1490/1491: d.1540) (a), Christian *III*, titular King of Denmark (b.1519: d.1550) (a)​
1a) Sophia Zápolya (b.1540: d.1550)​
2b) Elisabeth of Denmark (b.1543)​
3b) Stillborn Son (c.1544)​
4b) Frederick of Denmark (b.1547: d.1547)​
5b) John of Denmark (b.1548: d.1548)​
6b) Stillborn Son (c.1549)​
4a) Casimir, Prince of Poland (b.1523: d.1577) m. Elisabeth of Brandenburg-Küstrin (b.1540: d.1578) (a)​
- had no issue
5a) Stillborn Son (c.1525)​
6a) Alexander, Prince of Poland (b.1526: d.1530)​
7a) Catherine, Princess of Poland (b.1529: d.1550) m. John George, Elector of Brandenburg (b.1525: d.1598) (a)​
1a) Margaret of Brandenburg (b.1545)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1546)​
3a) Philip, Elector of Brandenburg (b.1548)​
2a) Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1500: d.1558) m. Anne I, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (b.1503: d.1547) (a)​
1a) Joanna, Archduchess of Austria (b.1522: d.1545) m. Philip, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1520: d.1589) (a)​
- had no issue
2a) Isabella, Archduchess of Austria (b.1524: d.1551) m. Francis I, Duke of Lorraine (b.1517: d.1545) (a)​
1a) Stillborn Son (c.1543)​
2a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1545)​
3a) Stillborn Son (c.1525)​
4a) Maria, Archduchess of Austria (b.1527: d.1586) m. Albert V, Duke of Bavaria (b.1527: d.1579) (a)​
1a) Anna of Bavaria (b.1546)​
2a) Albert VI, Duke of Bavaria (b.1550)​
3a) Joanna of Bavaria (b.1553: d.1555)​
4a) Charles of Bavaria (b.1557)​
5a) Magdalena Maria of Bavaria (b.1560)​
6a) Sybille of Bavaria (b.1562: d.1566)​
7a) Sabrina of Bavaria (b.1567)​
5a) Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1530: d.1598) m. Beatrice, Infanta of Portugal (b.1527: d.1563) (a), Louise of Savoy (b.1536: d.1607) (b)​
1a) Charles, Archduke of Austria (b.1549: d.1553)​
2a) Frederick IV, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1551)​
3a) Eleanor, Archduchess of Austria (b.1553)​
4a) Philip IV, Duke of Burgundy (b.1555)​
5a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1557)​
6a) Ursula, Archduchess of Austria (b.1560)​
7a) Ferdinand IV, King of Spain (b.1561)​
8b) Stillborn Son (c.1564)​
9b) Alfonso, Archduke of Austria (b.1567: d.1570)​
10b) Stillborn Son (c.1570)​
6a) Catherine, Archduchess of Austria (b.1532: d.1575) m. Philip of Saxony (b.1534: d.1551) (a), Alfonso II d'Este, Duke of Ferrara (b.1533: d.1597) (b) -annulled 1570-​
- had no issue by either husband
7a) Frederick, Archduke of Austria (b.1533: d.1546)​
8a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1535)​
9a) Anne, Archduchess of Austria (b.1537: d.1537)​
10a) Stillborn Son (c.1538)​
11a) Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1541: d.1588) m. Philip I, King of England and Ireland (b.1540: d.1576) (a)​
- had issue​
12a) Charles, Archduke of Austria (b.1544: d.1544)​
13a) Ursula, Archduchess of Austria (b.1546: d.1579) m. Charles, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1547: d.1600) (a)​
- had no issue
3a) Isabella, Archduchess of Austria (b.1501: d.1528) m. John III, King of Portugal (b.1502: d.1557) (a)​
1a) Joanna, Infanta of Portugal (b.1520: d.1565) m. Philip III, Duke of Savoy (b.1521: d.1560) (a)​
1a) Stillborn Son (c.1543)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1546)​
3a) Miscarriage (c.1548)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1522)​
3a) John, Prince of Portugal (b.1523: d.1524)​
4a) Maria, Infanta of Portugal (b.1525: d.1570) m. Philip, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1520: d.1589) (a)​
- had issue​
5a) Beatrice, Infanta of Portugal (b.1527: d.1563) m. Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor (b.1530: d.1578) (a)​
- had issue​
4a) Ferdinand, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1503: d.1564) m. Bona Sforza (b.1494: d.1557) (a)​
1a) Isabella of Milan (b.1518: d.1535)​
2a) Philip, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1520: d.1589) m. Joanna, Archduchess of Austria (b.1522: d.1545) (a), Maria, Infanta of Portugal (b.1525: d.1570) (b)​
1b) Charles, Grand Duke of Milan (b.1547: d.1600) m. Ursula, Archduchess of Austria (b.1546: d.1579) (a)​
- had no issue
2a) Frederick of Milan (b.1550)​
3a) Bona of Milan (b.1552)​
4a) Francesco of Milan (b.1555)​
5a) Maria of Milan (b.1560)​
3a) Stillborn Son (c.1521)​
4a) Anna of Milan (b.1524: d.1590) m. Charles IV, Duke of Savoy (b.1523: d.1581) (a)​
1a) Isabella of Savoy (b.1553)​
2a) Charles of Savoy (b.1535: d.1545)​
3a) Emmanuel I, Duke of Savoy (b.1538)​
4a) Beatrice of Savoy (b.1543)​
5a) Maximilian of Milan (b.1526: d.1610) m. Isabella of Montferrat (b.1537: d.1610) (a)​
1a) Ursula of Milan (b.1569)​
2a) Lucrezia of Milan (b.1573)​
6a) Charles of Milan (b.1527: d.1530)​
7a) Bianca of Milan (b.1531: d.1571) m. Frederick, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1533: d.1585) (a)​
- had issue​
5a) Mary, Archduchess of Austria (b.1505: d.1558) m. Louis II, King of Hungary and Bohemia (b.1506: d.1526) (a), Francis I, King of France (b.1494: d.1547) (b)​
- had no issue
6a) Catherine, Archduchess of Austria (b.1507: d.1568) m. John Frederick I, Elector of Saxony (b.1503: d.1554) (a)​
1a) John of Saxony (b.1528: d.1530)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1530)​
3a) Sophia of Saxony (b.1533: d.1601) m. William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1516: d.1592) (a)​
1a) Philip, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1548)​
2a) Anna of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1551)​
3a) Stillborn Son (c.1552)​
4a) Elisabeth of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1553)​
5a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1554)​
6a) William of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1558)​
7a) Stillborn Son (c.1560)​
8a) Frederick Charles of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1561)​
9a) John of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1563)​
10a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1564)​
11a) Sybille of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1566)​
12a) Joanna of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1567: d.1567)​
13a) Francis of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1570)​
14a) Stillborn Son (c.1571)​
15a) Eleanor of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1573)​
16a) Maria of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1575)​
4a) Philip of Saxony (b.1534: d.1551) m. Catherine, Archduchess of Austria (b.1532: d.1575) (a)​
- had no issue
5a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1536)​
6a) Anna of Saxony (b.1540: d.1545)​
7a) Frederick of Austria, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1508: d.1549) m. Margaret Paleologa (b.1510: d.1566) (a)​
1a) Frederick, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1533: d.1585) m. Bianca of Milan (b.1531: d.1571) (a)​
1a) Francesco, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1554)​
2a) Isabella of Montferrat (b.1558)​
3a) Frederick of Montferrat (b.1561)​
2a) Charles of Montferrat (b.1535: d.1536)​
3a) Isabella of Montferrat (b.1537: d.1610) m. Maximilian of Milan (b.1526: d.1610)​
- had issue​
4a) Stillborn Son (c.1538)​
5a) Margaret of Montferrat (b.1540: d.1547)​
6a) Anne of Montferrat (b.1542: d.1590) m. Francesco I de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany (b.1541: d.1587) (a)​
1a) Joanna de Medici (b.1546)​
2a) Cosimo II de' Medici, Grand Duke of Tuscany (b.1552)​
7a) Boniface of Montferrat, Cardinal-Archbishop of Brussels (b.1544: d.1627)​
8a) Charlotte of Montferrat (b.1548: d.1600) m. Alfonso II d'Este, Duke of Ferrara (b.1533: d.1597) (a)​
- had no issue
8a) Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1510: d.1556) m. Boniface IV, Marquis of Montferrat (b.1512: d.1530) (a), Alessandro de Medic, Grand Duke of Florence (b.1510: d.1537) (b), Henry VIII, King of England and Ireland (b.1491: d.1547) (c)​
1b) Isabella de Medici (b.1534: d.1537)​
2b) Eleonora de Medici (b.1536: d.1536)​
3c) Henry Tudor, Duke of York (b.1539: d.1545)​
4c) Philip I, King of England and Ireland (b.1540: d.1576) m. Margaret, Archduchess of Austria (b.1541: d.1588)​
1a) Charles Tudor, Prince of Wales (b.1557: d.1567)​
2a) Henry Tudor, Duke of York (b.1561: d.1565)​
3a) Elizabeth Tudor, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1564: d.1566)​
4a) Mary Tudor, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1565: d.1565)​
5a) Edward VII, King of England and Ireland (b.1567: d.1573)​
6a) Ferdinand I, King of England and Ireland (b.1570)​
7a) Eleanor Tudor, Princess of England and Ireland (b.1572: d.1573)​
8a) George Tudor, Prince of England and Ireland (b.1573: d.1573)​
9a) John Tudor, Duke of York (b.1575)​
9a) Kunigunde, Archduchess of Austria (b.1513: d.1565) m. m. John III, King of Portugal (b.1502: d.1557) (a)​
1a) John IV, King of Portugal (b.1530: d.1559) m. Elizabeth Tudor (b.1533: d.1603) (a)​
1a) Eleanor, Infanta of Portugal (b.1552: d.1555)​
2a) Manuel II, King of Portugal (b.1556)​
2a) Stillborn Son (c.1533)​
3a) Luis, Infante of Portugal (b.1535: d.1535)​
4a) Duarte, Duke of Viseu (b.1536: d.1581) m. Vicência of Braganza (b.1532: d.1603) (a)​
1a) Alfonso of Viseu (b.1554: d.1564)​
2a) Jaime, Duke of Viseu (b.1555)​
3a) Valentina of Viseu (b.1555)​
4a) Manuel of Viseu (b.1556)​
5a) Joanna of Viseu (b.1557)​
6a) Beatrice of Viseu (b.1558)​
7a) Charles of Viseu (b.1559)​
8a) John of Viseu (b.1560)​
9a) Martin of Viseu (b.1561)​
10a) Isabella of Viseu (b.1563)​
5a) Eleanor, Infanta of Portugal (b.1538: d.1540)​
6a) Stillborn Son (c.1539)​
7a) Stillborn Daughter (c.1541)​
8a) Manuel, Cardinal-Archbishop of Lisbon (b.1545: d.1598)​
9a) Catherine, Infanta of Portugal (b.1548: d.1599) m. João I, Duke of Braganza (b.1543: d.1583) (a)​
1a) Jaime II, Duke of Braganza (b.1567)​
2a) Eleanor of Braganza (b.1570: d.1571)​
3a) Stillborn Son (c.1572)​
4a) Catherine of Braganza (1575)​
5a) Stillborn Son (c.1579)​
10a) George, Archduke of Austria (b.1516: d.1579)​
Quick Notes:
  • Isabella of Portugal here marries the Duke of Savoy around 1519, while her sister is married in the late 1520s to the Duke of Calabria. Isabella has four surviving children, the two Dukes of Savoy recorded in this family tree, the daughter who marries the ATL Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand I as his second wife, and a second daughter, who dies at 16 in 1551, unmarried.
  • Margaret of Austria is married to the King of England as a sort of punishment for her poor behaviour in Italy. Basically, her marriage to Boniface produces no children, her marriage to Alessandro is such a failure that neither child she has during this time is believed to be his by the inner circle (although this isn't common knowledge and since they both die young it matters little) and when Henry VIII is looking for his fourth wife, she's offered to him to (a) secure England for the Hapsburgs, and (b) prevent her from further embarrassing the family in Italy, as at this point she has made noises about marrying Manuel of Naples, only child of the Duke of Calabria by his Portuguese wife, who will die unmarried in 1567. Margaret's marriage to Henry is actually a success, in part because she loves being adored, in part because he finds her extremely attractive, and in largest part because their two children, born in quick succession in 1539 and 1540, are sons. The elder, Henry, dies young, but the younger Philip survives and goes into be King of England. She has high ambitions for her family, and negotiates a match between her son and a niece of hers, along with her younger stepdaughter to the King of Portugal.
  • Philip's involvement in Italy is mostly a fuck-you to the French, where Francis I finds himself stiffled at every turn. His marriage to the Queen Dowager of Hungary is the biggest humiliation, considering no children are born from it, and his attempts to woo the Italian Hapsburgs away from their family alliance, even offering his younger daughter to the future Duke of Milan in 1544 in order to upset that family. Nothing works, and France remains surrounded by Hapsburgs and their allies. By the end of 1560, the Hapsburgs has control over almost half of Italy.
  • Tensions between the Austrian, French and Spanish branches of the Hapsburg empire frustrate Ferdinand I, Holy Roman Emperor, who in the 1580's makes moves to split his empire between his sons from his first marriage. Austria and the Holy Roman Empire go to the eldest, then Burgundy for the middle son, and Spain for the youngest. He abdicates in 1593, helping transition his children to power easily.
 
Anne Boleyn and Catherine of Aragon both die of the Sweat in 1528. Henry VIII is bereft at the loss of Anne (and Catherine too, it must be said) but goes on to remarry without breaking with the Catholic Church or making Mary illegitimate. His second wife is Hedwig Jagiellon...an odd choice, sure, but undoubtably the best one under the circumstances, at least I think.



Henry VIII Tudor (b. 1491, d. 1547) m. Catherine of Aragon (b. 1486, d. 1528) in 1509, had issue (a); Hedwig Jagiellon (b. 1514, d. 1573) in 1530, had issue (b)
1a) Stillborn daughter (b. and d. 1510)​
2a) Henry Tudor, Duke of Cornwall (b. and d. 1511)​
3a) Stillborn son (b. and d. 1513)​
4a) Stillborn son (b. and d. 1514)​
5a) Mary Tudor, Dauphine of France (b. 1516, d. 1558) m. François III, Duke of Brittany and Dauphin of France (b. 1518, d. 1536) in 1536, had issue​
1) Hedwige of France, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1537, d. ?) m. John of Austria (b. 1538, d. ?) [1] in 1554, had issue​
6a) Stillborn daughter (b. and d. 1518)​
7b) Elizabeth Tudor, Duchess of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1531, d. ?) m. William the Rich, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1514, d. 1592) in 1547, had issue​
1) Marie Hedwig of Jülich-Cleves-Berg, Duchess of Prussia (b. 1550, d. 1608) m. Albert Frederick, Duke of Prussia (b. 1553, d. 1618) in 1573, had issue​
2) Cecilie of Jülich-Cleves-Berg, Countess Palatine of Neuburg (b. 1552, d. 1632) m. Philip Ludwig, Count Palatine of Neuburg (b. 1547, d. 1614) in 1574, had issue​
3) Magdalene of Jülich-Cleves-Berg, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1553, d. 1633) m. Matthew I, Duke of Brittany (b. 1555, d. 1611) [2] in 1574, had issue​
4) Henry Frederick, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1555, d. 1618) m. Eléonore of France (b. 1562, d. 1622) [3] in 1579, had issue​
5) Elisabeth of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1556, d. 1561)​
6) Sibylle of Jülich-Cleves-Berg, Archduchess of Austria (b. 1557, d. 1628) m. Ferdinand II, Archduke of Austria (b. 1531, d. 1595) in 1582, had issue​
7) John William of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b. 1562, d. 1574)​
8b) Edward VI Tudor, King of England (b. 1532, d. 1551) m. Anna d'Este (b. 1531, d. ?) [4] in 1551, had issue​
1) Henry IX Tudor, King of England (b. 1552, d. 1609) m. Maximiliana Maria of Bavaria (b. 1552, d. 1614) in 1569, had issue​
9b) Margaret Tudor, Princess of Portugal (b. 1534, d. ?) m. Dinis, Prince of Portugal (b. 1535, d. 1552) [5] in 1551, had issue​
1) João, Prince of Portugal (b. 1553, d. 1555)​
10b) Cecily Tudor, Queen of Sweden (b. 1535, d. ?) m. Erik XIV, King of Sweden (b. 1533, d. 1577) in 1551, had issue​
1) Hedvig Vasa of Sweden, Electress of Saxony (b. 1552, d. 1618) m. Albert II, Elector of Saxony (b. 1545, d. 1598) [6] in 1573, had issue​
11b) Edmund Tudor, Duke of York (b. 1537, d. 1538)​
12b) Stillborn daughter (b. and d. 1539)​
[1] Mary refuses to hand custody of her daughter over to François I, making the King rightly angry. She acts as Regent for Brittany and arranges a marriage for her daughter to the son of her cousin Emperor Ferdinand. IOTL John died in childhood but ITTL his older sister Maria does instead.​
[2] Son of Hedwige of Brittany and John of Austria. He has an unusual name but I don't think it would raise too many eyebrows, being the name of one of the Evangelists.​
[3] Daughter of Henri II of France and his ITTL second wife Helena of Austria, who he marries in 1559. Catherine de'Medici died in 1556 after giving birth to her twin daughters Joan and Victoria.​
[4] I'm not sure about Edward's marriage...perhaps Joanna of Austria would be a better option? Or a Protestant lady? IDK but I'm open to suggestions.​
[5] ITTL Dinis is the only surviving son of João III of Portugal and Catherine of Austria.​
[6] Albert II is the son of Maurice of Saxony, IOTL he died young but he survives ITTL.​
 
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5a) Mary Tudor, Dauphine of France (b. 1516, d. 1558) m. François III, Duke of Brittany and Dauphin of France (b. 1518, d. 1536) in 1536, had issue1) Hedwige of France, Duchess of Brittany (b. 1537, d. ?) m. John of Austria (b. 1538, d. ?) [1] in 1554, had issue

[1] Mary refuses to hand custody of her daughter over to François I, making the King rightly angry. She acts as Regent for Brittany and arranges a marriage for her daughter to the son of her cousin Emperor Ferdinand. IOTL John died in childhood but ITTL his older sister Maria does instead.
Why would Mary pick the name Hedwige? It’s a Germanic name so would not be popular in France. I would imagine her naming her child after her mother, Catherine.

It would also maybe an idea for Mary to marry again so as to have an ally such as a German/Austrian or Spanish nobility, or even an English nobleman possibly her cousin, Edward Courtenay.
 
Inspired by this thread, a timeline where there is one big difference, Henry IV of France survives, and consequently Louis XIII does not marry Anne of Austria, with Anne marrying Charles of England instead:

Charles I of England, Scotland and Ireland (b.1600) m Anne of Austria (b.1601) in 1622

Issue:

James, Duke of Cornwall and Rothesay (b.1623: d.1623)

James II and VII of England, Scotland and Ireland (b.1624)

Anne of England (b.1626)

Charles, Duke of York and Albany (b.1627)

Mary of England (b.1629)

Robert, Duke of Gloucester (b.1632: d.1635)

Henry, Duke of Gloucester (b.1636)
 
Another one based on the post above:

Henry IX of England and Ireland I of Scotland (b.1594: d.1654) m Elisabeth of France (b.1602: d.1650)

Issue:

James of Wales (b.1618: d.1623)

Mary, Princess Royal (b.1620)

Henry X of England and Ireland, II of Scotland (b.1621)

Charles, Duke of York and Albany (b.1623)

Anne of England (b.1625: d.1627)

William, Duke of Gloucester (b.1629)

Elizabeth of England (b.1633)

Edward of England (b.1635: d.1635)
 
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