List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

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Poland

Duke Boleslaw III of Poland (1086-1138) >< a. Zbyslava of Kiev (1085-1114) b. Salomea of Berg-Schelklingen (1099-1144)

A1a. High Duke Wladyslaw II of Poland (1105-1159) >< Agnes of Austria (1108-1163)​

B1. Duke Boleslaw I of Wroclaw (1127-1201) >< a. Zvenislava of Kiev (1125-1155) b. Christina (c. 1145-1201)​

C1a. Duke Jaroslaw of Opole (1145-1201)​

C2b. Boleslaw of Wroclaw (1162-1175)​

C3b. Adelaide of Wroclaw (1165-1213) >< Duke Depold II of Jamnitz (1157-1190)​

C4b. Konrad of Wroclaw (1168-1190)​

C5b. Jan of Wroclaw (1169-1174)​

C6b. Bertha of Wroclaw (1167-1200)​

C7b. High Duke Henry I of Poland (1170-1238) >< Hedwig of Andechs (1174-1243)​

D1. Agnes of Wroclaw (1190-1214)​

D2. Boleslaw of Wroclaw (1191-1206)​

D3. King Henry II of Poland (1195-1261)​

D4. Konrad of Wroclaw (1198-1213)​

D5. Sophia of Wroclaw (1200-1214)​

D6. Gertrude of Wroclaw (1202-1268)​

D7. Wladyslaw of Wroclaw (1205-1214)​

C8b. Wladyslaw of Wroclaw (1180-1199)​

B2. High Duke Mieszko IV of Poland (1130-1211) >< Ludmila of Olomouc (1160-1210)​

C1. Duke Casimir I of Opole (1180-1230) >< Viola (1200-1251)​

D. Dukes of Opole​

B3. Richeza of Poland (1140-1185) >< a. King Alfonso VII of León (1105-1157) b. Count Raymond-Berenguer II of Provence (1135-1166) c. Count Albert III of Everstein (1140-1197)​

B4. Duke Konrad of Glogow (1146-1190)​

A2a. Judith of Poland (1112-1124)​

A3b. Leszek of Poland (1115)​

A4b. Ryksa of Poland (1116-1157) >< a. King Magnus I of Sweden (1106-1134) b. Prince Volodar of Misnk (1090-1167) c. King Sverker I of Sweden (c. 1100-1156)​

B1a. King Knut V of Denmark (1130-1157)​

B2b. Sofia of Minsk (1141-1198) >< King Valdemar I of Denmark (1131-1182)​

B3b. Prince Vladimir of Polotsk (1142-1216)​

B4c. Burislev of Sweden (1145-1173)​

A5b. Casimir of Poland (1122-1131)​

A6b. Gertrude of Poland (1123-1160)​

A7b. High Duke Boleslaw IV of Poland (1125-1173) >< Viacheslava of Novgorod (1125-1162)​

B1. Boleslaw of Masovia (1156-1172)​

B2. Duke Leszek of Masovia (1162-1186)​

A8b. High Duke Mieszko III of Poland (1126-1202) >< a. Elisabeth of Hungary (1128-1154) b. Eudoxia of Kiev (1131-1187)​

B1a. Duke Odon of Greater Poland (1149-1194) >< Viacheslava of Galich (c. 1170-1200)​

C1. Duke Wladyslaw II of Greater Poland (1190-1239) >< Hedwig of Pomerelia (c. 1200-1249)​

D1. Hedwig of Greater Poland (1218-1236) >< Duke Casimir I of Kuyavia (1211-1267)​

D2. Duke Przemysł I of Greater Poland (1221-1257) >< Elisabeth of Wroclaw (1229-1265)​

E1. Constance of Greater Poland (1245-1281) >< Margrave Konrad I of Brandenburg-Stendal (1240-1304)​

E2. Euphrosyne of Greater Poland (1247-1298)​

E3. Anna of Greater Poland (1253-1296)​

E4. Euphemia of Greater Poland (1253-1298)​

E5. Duke Przemysł II of Greater Poland (1257-1296) >< a. Luitgrade of Mecklenburg (1260-1283) b. Richeza of Sweden (1270-1292) c. Margaret of Brandenburg (1270-1315)​

....F1b. Richeza Elisabeth of Greater Poland (1288-1335) >< a. King Václav IV of Bohemia (1271-1305) b. Duke Rudolf II of Swabia (1282-1307)​

D3. Duke Boleslaw I of Kalisz (1224-1279) >< Helena of Hungary (1244-1304)​

E1. Elisabeth of Kalisz (1259-1304) >< King Henry III of Poland (1248-1296)​

E2. Hedwig of Kalisz (1266-1339) >< Duke Wladyslaw I of Kuyavia (1260-1333)​

E3. Anna of Kalisz (1270-1300)​

D4. Salomea of Greater Poland (1225-1267) >< Duke Konrad I of Głogów (1228-1274)​

D5. Siemomysl of Greater Poland (1228-1232)​

D6. Euphemia of Greater Poland (1230-1282) >< Duke Wladyslaw I of Opole (1225-1281)​

C2. Ryksa of Greater Poland (1191-1238)​

C3. Euphrosyne of Greater Poland (1192-1235) >< Duke Swantopolk II of Pomerelia (1190-1266)​

B2a. Stephen of Greater Poland (1150-1176)​

B3a. Elisabeth of Greater Poland (1152-1209) >< a. Duke Soběslav II of Bohemia (1128-1180) b. Margrave Konrad II of Lusatia (1158-1210)​

C1b. Konrad of Lusatia (c. 1183-1208)​

C2b. Matilda of Groitzsch (1185-1255) >< Margrave Albert II of Brandenburg (1177-1220)​

C3b. Agnes of Landsberg (1193-1266) >< Count Palatine Heinrich V (1173-1227)​

B4a. Wierzchoslawa Ludmilla of Greater Poland (1153-1222) >< Duke Frédéric I of Lorraine (1143-1206)​

C. Dukes of Lorraine​

B5b. Judith of Greater Poland (1154-1201) >< Duke Bernhard III of Saxony (1140-1212)​

C. House of Ascania (Saxony-Anhalt branches)​

B6b. Duke Boleslaw of Kuyavia (1159-1195) >< Dobroslawa of Pomerania (1172-1230)​

C1. Eudoxia of Kuyavia (1192-1270) >< Count Heinrich I of Schwerin (1155-1228)​

C2. Wierzchosława of Kuyavia (1194-1212)​

C3. Dobroslawa of Kuyavia (1195-1253)​

B7b. Duke Mieszko of Kalisz (1160-1193)​

B8b. High Duke Wladyslaw III of Poland (1161-1231) >< Lucia of Rügen (c. 1170-1231)​

B9b. Salomea of Greater Poland (1162-1183) >< Duke Ratibor II of Pomerania (1160-1183)​

B10b. Anastasia of Greater Poland (1164-1240) >< Duke Bogislaw I of Pomerania (1130-1187)​

A9b. Dobroniega of Poland (1129-1160) >< Margrave Dietrich I of Lusatia (1130-1185)​

A10b. Judith of Poland (1130-1175) >< Margrave Otto I of Brandenburg (1128-1184)​

A11b. Duke Henry of Sandomierz (1131-1166)​

A12b. Agnes of Poland (1137-1183) >< Prince Mstislav II of Kiev (1125-1170)​

A13b. High Duke Casimir II of Poland (1138-1194) >< Helena of Znojmo (1140-1206)​

B1. Casimir of Sandomierz (1162-1167)​

B2. Boleslaw of Sandomierz (1168-1183)​

B3. Odon of Sandomierz (1169)​

B4. Adelaide of Sandomierz (1177-1211)​

B5. Duke Leszek I of Masovia (1185-1227) >< Grzymisława of Lutsk (1190-1258)​

C1. Salomea of Masovia (1211-1268) >< Coloman of Halych (1208-1241)​

C2. Duke Boleslaw II of Sandomierz (1226-1279) >< Kinga of Hungary (1224-1292)​

B6. Duke Konrad I of Masovia (1187-1247) >< Agafia of Rus (1192-1248)​

C. Dukes of Masovia​

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King Henry II of Poland (1195-1261) >< Anna of Bohemia (1203-1265)

A1. Gertrude (1218-1247) >< Duke Boleslaw II of Masovia (1208-1248)​

A2. Constance (1221-1257) >< Duke Casimir I of Kuyavia (1211-1267)​

A3. King Boleslaw V of Poland (1222-1278) >< Hedwig of Anhalt (1228-1259)​

B1. Agnes of Poland (1245-1265) >< Count Ulrich I of Württemberg (1226-1265)​

B2. King Henry III of Poland (1248-1296) >< Elisabeth of Kalisz (1259-1304)​

C1. Hedwig of Poland (1277-1347)​

C2. Euphemia of Poland (1281-1347) >< Count Otto of Tyrol (1265-1310)​

C3. Anna of Poland (1284-1343)​

C4. Elisabeth of Poland (1290-1357)​

C5. King Boleslaw VI of Poland (1291-1352) >< Margaret of Bohemia (1296-1322)​

D1. King Václav VI of Bohemia (1316-1364) >< Anna of Cieszyn (1325-1367)​

E1. King Rupert of Bohemia (1347-1409) >< Agnes of Luxembourg (1350-1412)​

....F1. Queen Agnes I of Bohemia (1384-1436) >< Elector Rudolf III of Saxony (1378-1419)​

.......G1. Queen Agnes II of Bohemia (1405-1465) >< King John I of Bohemia (1404-1464)​

..........H1. Queen Agnes III of Bohemia (1423-1471) >< King John II of Bohemia (1419-1481)​

..............I1. Kings of Bohemia (House of Kleve)​

..........H2. Barbara of Bohemia (1424-1489) >< Marquis Ludovico III of Mantua (1412-1478)​

..........H3. Elisabeth of Bohemia (1425-1465) >< a. Duke Joachim of Pomerania (1424-1451) b. Duke Wartislaw X of Pomerania (1435-1478)​

..........H4. Dorothea of Bohemia (1431-1495)​

....F2. Queen Agnes of Poland (1385-1411) >< Prince Alexander II of Belz (1380-1439)​

.......G. Kings of Poland (House of Halych)​

E2. Bishop Václav of Wroclaw (1348-1419)​

E3. Duke Boleslaw IV of Legnica (1349-1394)​

E4. Hedwig of Bohemia (1351-1409) >< Duke Henry VI of Zagan (1345-1393)​

E5. Bishop Henryk of Wroclawek (1355-1398)​

D2. Duke Ludwik I of Brzeg (1321-1398) >< Agnes of Glogow (1321-1362)​

E. Dukes of Brzeg​

C6. Helena of Poland (1293-1320)​

C7. Duke Henry VI of Wroclaw (1294-1335) >< Anna of Habsburg (1275-1327)​

D1. Elisabeth of Wroclaw (1311-1328)​

D2. Euphemia of Wroclaw (1312-1384) >< Duke Boleslaw I of Niemodlin (1293-1365)​

D3. Margaret of Wroclaw (1314-1379)​

C8. Duke Wladyslaw of Legnica (1296-1352)​

B3. Duke Bolko I of Swidnica (1252-1301) >< Beatrix of Brandenburg (1270-1316)​

B4. Duke Bernard of Jawor (1253-1286)​

B5. Catherine of Poland (1260-1286)​

A4. Mieszko of Poland (1223-1242)​

A5. Duke Henry III of Wroclaw (1227-1266) >< Judith of Masovia (1227-1257)​

B1. Hedwig of Wrovlaw (1256-13000) >< a. Heinrich of Lusatia (1256-1282) b. Prince Otto I of Anhalt-Aschersleben (1256-1304)​

B2. Duke Henry IV of Wroclaw (1258-1290) >< a. Constance of Opole (1262-1351) b. Matilda of Brandenburg (1270-1297)​

A6. Elizabeth (1229-1265) >< Duke Przemysł I of Greater Poland (1221-1257)​

A7. Duke Konrad I of Glogów (1231-1274) >< Salomea of Greater Poland (1225-1267)​

A8. Agnes of Poland (1236-1277)​

A9. Archbishop Ladislaus of Salzburg (1237-1270)​

A10. Hedwig of Poland (1238-1318)​

1. How did Václav VI become King of Bohemia if his grandfather had a son?
2. When did the Jagiellons inherit Poland if Casimir IV is King of Poland?
3. Do the Ernestine duchies still come about in Lusatia?
4. Is England in a personal union with any of the Scandinavian countries as of the 16th century?
5. How did the Habsburgs become Duke of Swabia?

 

[Mildtryth]

1. How did Václav VI become King of Bohemia if his grandfather had a son?
2. When did the Jagiellons inherit Poland if Casimir IV is King of Poland?
3. Do the Ernestine duchies still come about in Lusatia?
4. Is England in a personal union with any of the Scandinavian countries as of the 16th century?
5. How did the Habsburgs become Duke of Swabia?

1. He inherited the Bohemian title through his mother. Then both Bohemia and Poland would be in a personal union until Rupert's death. Now if by grandfather, you mean Václav IV, Václav V still dies childless in 1307.
2. They don't. Casimir is Alexander's grandson. and i made a mistake on the counting initially.
3. Not exactly - the Ernestine duchies came about through John Frederick losing the electoral title to Maurice. John Frederick's sons end up becoming dukes in Osterland/Landsberg, since Maurice received Saxony along with Lusatia, so what comes into being are titles like Saxe-Leipzig or Saxe-Zwickau. And there'll be less margraviates to go around.
4. Yes - Denmark and Norway.
5. Being given the title by the Emperor. Their power base was already on southern Swabia anyhow, and even with the title and their struggles in the 14th century, they'd still comand little authority on northern Swabia, with Baden and Württemberg generally being opposed to them.

 

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Jülich

Count Gerhard V of Jülich (1248-1328) >< Elisabeth of Aarschot (1280-1355)

A1. Duke Wilhelm V of Jülich (1299-1361) >< a. Margaret of Luxembourg (1306-1327) b. Joanna of Hainaut (1315-1374)​

B1a. Count Gerhard I of Berg (1323-1360) >< Countess Margaret of Ravensberg (1320-1389)​

C1. Elisabeth of Ravensberg (1346-1388) >< Count Heinrich VI of Waldeck (1340-1397)​

C2. Duke Wilhelm I of Berg (1348-1408) >< Anna of Katzenelnbogen (1343-1398)​

D1. Beatrix of Berg (1364-1395) >< King Rupert of Germany (1309-1390)​

D2. Margaret of Berg (1365-1442) >< Duke Otto I of Brunswick-Göttingen (1340-1394)​

D3. Bishop Johann I of Paderborn (1367-1394)​

D4. Duke Adolf X of Berg (1370-1417) >< Yolande of Bar (1378-1421)​

E1. Duke Rupert of Berg (1401-1431) >< Elisabeth of Bavaria (1406-1468)​

D5. Gerhard of Berg (1375-1435)​

D6. King Wilhelm II of Germany (1382-1453) >< a. Adelaide of Tecklenburg (1390-1428) b. Margaret of Brunswick (1413-1471)​

E1a. Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

C3. Margaret of Berg (1350-1429) >< Duke Dietrich of Gelre (1347-1394)​

B2a. Duke Wilhelm VI of Jülich (1327-1393) >< Maria of Gelre (1328-1397)​

C1. Duke Wilhelm VII of Jülich (1364-1402) >< Catherine of Brabant (1361-1400)​

D1. Duke Johann I of Jülich (1382-1405) >< Matilda of Gelre (1386-1426)​

C2. Duke Reinald of Jülich (1365-1423) >< Marie of Harcourt (1390-?)​

C3. Joanna of Jülich (1368-1394) >< Lord Jan V of Arkel (1362-1428)​

D1. Lord Willem of Arkel (1385-1417)​

D2. Maria of Arkel (1387-1415) >< Count Jan II of Egmond (1385-1451)​

E. Counts of Egmond​

B3b. Elisabeth of Jülich (1335-1411) >< Earl John of Kent (1330-1352)​

B4b. Johanna of Jülich (1337-1367) >< Count Wilhelm of Isenburg-Wied (1307-1383)​

B5b. Richardis of Jülich (1338-1360) >< Count Engelbert III of Mark (1330-1391)​

B6b. Philippa of Jülich (1340-1390) >< Count Gottfried II of Heinsberg (1325-1395)​

A2. Ludwig of Jülich (1300-1312)​

A3. Lord Gottfried of Bergheim (1302-1335) >< Elisabeth of Kleve (1310-1347)​

B1. Yolanda of Bergheim (1330-1387) >< Count Friedrich VII of Leiningen (1320-1387)​

A4. Archbishop Walram of Köln (1303-1349)​

A5. Heinrich of Jülich (1306–1334)​

A6. Johann of Jülich (1307-1327)​

A7. Maria of Jülich (1309- 1353) >< a. Count Heinrich II of Wirneburg (1312-1335) b. Count Dietrich IX of Kleve (1291-1347) c. Count Konrad II of Saffenberg (c. 1320-1377)​

A8. Elisabeth of Jülich (1311-1389) >< a. Count Johann II of Sayn (1313-1360) b. Lord Gottfried V of Hatzfeld (1330-1371)​

A9. Richardis of Jülich (1314-1360) >< Duke Otto VI of Bavaria (1307-1334)​

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Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475) >< a. Agnes of Gelre (1422-1446) b. Countess Adelaide II of Mark (1434-1495)

A1b. Emperor Wilhelm III of Germany (1455-1511) >< Beatrice of Gelre (1457-1524)​

B1. Gerhard of Jülich (1479-1484)​

B2. Agnes of Jülich (1480-1549) >< King Juan III of Spain (1478-1535)​

B3. Dietrich of Jülich (1483)​

B4. Beatrix of Jülich (1485-1508) >< Duke Ulrich VI of Württemberg (1487-1550)​

B5. Adelaide of Jülich (1486-1549) >< Margrave Casimir of Brandenburg (1481-1527)​

B6. Emperor Wilhelm IV of Germany (1488-1551) >< Ermengarda of Sicily (1487-1557)​

C1. Wilhelm of Jülich (1505-1531) >< Elisabeth of Hesse (1503-1563)​

C2. Emerich of Jülich (1507-1521)​

C3. Irmgard of Jülich (1508-1542) >< Count Palatine Walram V of Zweibrücken (1502-1532)​

C4. Adelaide of Jülich (1514-1542) >< Count Philipp X of Falkenstein (1507-1547)​

C5. Emperor Friedrich V of Germany (1517-1575) >< Anna of Spain (1523-1587)​

D1. Wilhelm of Jülich (1541-1565)​

D2. Anna of Jülich (1542-1576) >< Margrave Philipp IV of Brandenburg (1539-1603)​

D3. Friedrich of Jülich (1543-1544)​

D3. Irmgard of Jülich (1546-1587) >< King Sigismund III of Poland (1541-1594)​

D4. Emperor Johann I of Germany (1547-1608)​

D5. Archbishop Walram II of Köln (1550-1613)​

D6. Adelaide of Jülich (1556-1609) >< Count Wilhelm I of Oldenburg (1549-1619)​

C6. Beatrix of Jülich (1519)​

C7. Bishop Johann VII of Utrecht (1521-1583)​

C8. Helena of Jülich (1522)​

B7. Maria of Jülich (1491-1543) >< King John IV of Bohemia (1490-1539)​

A2b. Adolf of Jülich (1458-1470)​

A3b. Gerhard of Jülich (1459)​

A4b. Adelaide of Jülich (1460-1538) >< King Philippe III of Burgundy (1459-1528)​

A5b. Anna of Jülich (1466-1553) >< Count Johann III of Mörs (c. 1466-1527)​

Kleve

Count Johann I of Kleve (1293-1368) >< Duchess Matilda of Gelre (1325-1384)

A1. Duke Dietrich I of Gelre (1347-1394) >< Margaret of Berg (1350-1429)​

B1. Duke Johann I of Gelre (1373-1448) >< a. Agnes of the Palatimate (1379-1401) >< Marie of Burgundy (1393-1466)​

C1. Margaret of Gelre (1416-1444) >< a. Duke Wilhelm I of Bavaria-Munich (1375-1435) b. Count Ulrich V of Württemberg (1413-1480)​

C2. Catherine of Gelre (1417-1479) >< Count Arnold II of Egmond (1410-1473)​

C3. King John II of Bohemia (1419-1481) >< Queen Agnes III of Bohemia (1423-1471)​

D1. Agnes of Bohemia (1442-1458)​

D2. Barbara of Bohemia (1445-1509) >< Margrave Albert III of Lusatia (1443-1500)​

D3. Václav of Bohemia (1447)​

D4. Detřich of Bohemia (1449-1469)​

D5. King Bedřich II of Bohemia (1451-1486) >< Catherine of Saxony (1447-1495)​

E1. John of Bohemia (1471-1475)​

E2. Bedřich of Bohemia (1474-1481)​

D6. Maria of Bohemia (1454-1480)​

D7. Václav of Bohemia (1456-1460)​

D8. King John III of Bohemia (1458-1521) >< a. Countess Elisabeth of Mark (1453-1477) b. Matilda of Hesse (1473-1505)​

E1b. King John IV of Bohemia (1490-1539) >< Maria of Jülich (1491-1543)​

....F1. Sybille of Bohemia (1512-1554) >< Elector Johann Friedrich I of Saxony (1503-1554)​

....F2. Anna of Bohemia (1515-1557) >< King Eystein VII of England (1491-1547)​

....F3. King William I of Bohemia (1516-1592) >< Anna of Poland (1523-1596)​

.......G1. John of Bohemia (1541-1551)​

.......G2. William of Bohemia (1543-1544)​

.......G3. King Vladislav IV of Bohemia (1547-1608) >< Amelia of Austria (1550-1599)​

.......G4. Maria of Bohemia (1550-1608) >< Duke Leopold VIII of Austria (1542-1572)​

.......G5. Anna of Bohemia (1552-1632)​

.......G6. Magdalene of Bohemia (1553–1633) >< Elector Palatine Philip II (1547-1614)​

.......G7. Karel of Bohemia (1555-1575)​

.......G8. Elisabeth of Bohemia (1556-1561)​

.......G9. Sybille of Bohemia (1557-1627) >< Margrave Johann VIII of Brandenburg (1561-1603)​

.......G10. Archbishop Sigismund II of Magdeburg (1559-1609)​

....F4. Amalia of Bohemia (1517-1586) >< Juan of Spain (1517-1543)​

E2b. Anna of Bohemia (1495-1567) >< Landgrave Ludwig VIII of Thuringia (1466-1533)​

E3b. Jindřich of Bohemia (1498-1525)​

C4. Elisabeth of Gelre (1420-1488) >< Count Heinrich XXVI of Schwarzburg-Blankenburg (1418-1488)​

C5. Agnes of Kleve (1422-1446) >< Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

C6. Helena of Gelre (1423-1471) >< Duke Heinrich II of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1411-1473)​

C7. Duke Dietrich II of Gelre (1425-1472) >< Beatriz of Coimbra (1435-1462)​

D1. Duke Johann II of Gelre (1455-1481)​

D2. Beatrice of Gelre (1457-1524) >< Emperor Wilhelm III of Germany (1455-1511)​

C8. Maria of Gelre (1426-1487) >< Duke Charles of Orléans (1394-1465)​

B2. Reginald of Gelre (1376-1406)​

B3. Elisabeth of Gelre (1378-1424) >< a. Reynold of Valkenburg (c. 1370-1396) b. Elector Stephen III of Bavaria (1337-1413)​

B4. Dietrich of Gelre (1383-1402)​

B5. Matilda of Gelre (1386-1426) >< Duke Johann I of Jülich (1382-1405)​

A2. Matilda of Kleve (1349-1368)​

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Mark

Count Adolf II of Mark (1300-1347) >< Margaret of Kleve (1310-1352)

A1. Count Engelbert III of Mark (1333-1391) >< a. Richardis of Jülich (1338-1360) b. Elisabeth of Sponheim (1365-1417)​

B1a. Count Adolf III of Mark (1357-1418) >< Sophia of Leiningen (1361-1420)​

C1. Engelberta of Mark (1383-1458) >< Count Friedrich IV of Moers (1375-1448)​

C2. Engelbert of Mark (1385-1397)​

C3. Count Adolf IV of Mark (1387-1420) >< Elisabeth of Waldeck-Landau (1391-1442)​

D1. Count Adolf V of Mark (1410-1437) >< Adelaide of Sayn (1411-1477)​

E1. Count Engelbert IV of Mark (1430-1461) >< Sophia of Saxe-Lauenburg (1428-1472)​

....F1. Countess Adelaide I of Mark (1449-1468) >< Count Engelbert II of Vianden (1451-1504)​

....F2. Sophia of Mark (1452-1463)​

....F3. Countess Elisabeth of Mark (1453-1477) >< King John III of Bohemia (1458-1521)​

....F4. Adolf of Mark (1457-1458)​

....F5. Agnes of Mark (1458)​

E2. Adolf of Mark (1431-1450)​

E3. Countess Adelaide II of Mark (1434-1495) >< Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

D2. Count Engelbert I of Nevers (1411-1465) >< Countess Margaret of Nevers (1411-1461)​

E. Counts of Nevers (House of Mark)​

D3. Elisabeth of Mark (1413-1435) >< Burgrave Albert I of Nuremberg (1413-1471)​

C4. Friedrich of Mark (1392-1407)​

C5. Dietrich of Mark (1393)​

C6. Sophia of Mark (1398-1431)​

B2a. Margaret of Mark (1359-1410) >< Count Philip X of Falkenstein (1335-1407)​

A2. Archbishop Adolf II of Köln (1334-1394)​

A3. Bishop Thierry of Liège (1336-1406)​

A4. Eberhard of Mark (1341-1362)​

A5. Margaret of Mark (1342-1409) >< Count Johann I of Nassau-Siegen (1339-1416)​

A6. Mathilde of Mark (1344-1390)​

 

[TheBeanieBaron]

Jülich

Count Gerhard V of Jülich (1248-1328) >< Elisabeth of Aarschot (1280-1355)

A1. Duke Wilhelm V of Jülich (1299-1361) >< a. Margaret of Luxembourg (1306-1327) b. Joanna of Hainaut (1315-1374)​

B1a. Count Gerhard I of Berg (1323-1360) >< Countess Margaret of Ravensberg (1320-1389)​

C1. Elisabeth of Ravensberg (1346-1388) >< Count Heinrich VI of Waldeck (1340-1397)​

C2. Duke Wilhelm I of Berg (1348-1408) >< Anna of Katzenelnbogen (1343-1398)​

D1. Beatrix of Berg (1364-1395) >< King Rupert of Germany (1309-1390)​

D2. Margaret of Berg (1365-1442) >< Duke Otto I of Brunswick-Göttingen (1340-1394)​

D3. Bishop Johann I of Paderborn (1367-1394)​

D4. Duke Adolf X of Berg (1370-1417) >< Yolande of Bar (1378-1421)​

E1. Duke Rupert of Berg (1401-1431) >< Elisabeth of Bavaria (1406-1468)​

D5. Gerhard of Berg (1375-1435)​

D6. King Wilhelm II of Germany (1382-1453) >< a. Adelaide of Tecklenburg (1390-1428) b. Margaret of Brunswick (1413-1471)​

E1a. Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

C3. Margaret of Berg (1350-1429) >< Duke Dietrich of Gelre (1347-1394)​

B2a. Duke Wilhelm VI of Jülich (1327-1393) >< Maria of Gelre (1328-1397)​

C1. Duke Wilhelm VII of Jülich (1364-1402) >< Catherine of Brabant (1361-1400)​

D1. Duke Johann I of Jülich (1382-1405) >< Matilda of Gelre (1386-1426)​

C2. Duke Reinald of Jülich (1365-1423) >< Marie of Harcourt (1390-?)​

C3. Joanna of Jülich (1368-1394) >< Lord Jan V of Arkel (1362-1428)​

D1. Lord Willem of Arkel (1385-1417)​

D2. Maria of Arkel (1387-1415) >< Count Jan II of Egmond (1385-1451)​

E. Counts of Egmond​

B3b. Elisabeth of Jülich (1335-1411) >< Earl John of Kent (1330-1352)​

B4b. Johanna of Jülich (1337-1367) >< Count Wilhelm of Isenburg-Wied (1307-1383)​

B5b. Richardis of Jülich (1338-1360) >< Count Engelbert III of Mark (1330-1391)​

B6b. Philippa of Jülich (1340-1390) >< Count Gottfried II of Heinsberg (1325-1395)​

A2. Ludwig of Jülich (1300-1312)​

A3. Lord Gottfried of Bergheim (1302-1335) >< Elisabeth of Kleve (1310-1347)​

B1. Yolanda of Bergheim (1330-1387) >< Count Friedrich VII of Leiningen (1320-1387)​

A4. Archbishop Walram of Köln (1303-1349)​

A5. Heinrich of Jülich (1306–1334)​

A6. Johann of Jülich (1307-1327)​

A7. Maria of Jülich (1309- 1353) >< a. Count Heinrich II of Wirneburg (1312-1335) b. Count Dietrich IX of Kleve (1291-1347) c. Count Konrad II of Saffenberg (c. 1320-1377)​

A8. Elisabeth of Jülich (1311-1389) >< a. Count Johann II of Sayn (1313-1360) b. Lord Gottfried V of Hatzfeld (1330-1371)​

A9. Richardis of Jülich (1314-1360) >< Duke Otto VI of Bavaria (1307-1334)​

​

Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475) >< a. Agnes of Gelre (1422-1446) b. Countess Adelaide II of Mark (1434-1495)

A1b. Emperor Wilhelm III of Germany (1455-1511) >< Beatrice of Gelre (1457-1524)​

B1. Gerhard of Jülich (1479-1484)​

B2. Dietrich of Jülich (1483)​

B3. Beatrix of Jülich (1485-1508) >< Duke Ulrich VI of Württemberg (1487-1550)​

B4. Adelaide of Jülich (1486-1549) >< Margrave Casimir of Brandenburg (1481-1527)​

B5. Emperor Wilhelm IV of Germany (1488-1551) >< Ermengarda of Sicily (1487-1557)​

C1. Wilhelm of Jülich (1505-1531) >< Elisabeth of Hesse (1503-1563)​

C2. Emerich of Jülich (1507-1521)​

C3. Irmgard of Jülich (1508-1542) >< Count Palatine Walram IV of Zweibrücken (1502-1532)​

C4. Adelaide of Jülich (1514-1522)​

C5. Emperor Friedrich V of Germany (1517-1575) >< Anna of Spain (1523-1587)​

D1. Wilhelm of Jülich (1541-1565)​

D2. Anna of Jülich (1542-1576)​

D3. Friedrich of Jülich (1543-1544)​

D3. Irmgard of Jülich (1546-1587)​

D4. Emperor Johann I of Germany (1547-1608)​

D5. Archbishop Walram II of Köln (1550-1613)​

D6. Adelaide of Jülich (1556-1569)​

C6. Beatrix of Jülich (1519)​

C7. Bishop Johann VII of Utrecht (1521-1583)​

C8. Helena of Jülich (1522)​

B6. Maria of Jülich (1491-1543) >< King John IV of Bohemia (1490-1539)​

A2b. Adolf of Jülich (1458-1470)​

A3b. Gerhard of Jülich (1459)​

A4b. Adelaide of Jülich (1460-1538) >< King Philippe III of Burgundy (1457-1528)​

A5b. Anna of Jülich (1466-1553) >< Count Johann III of Mörs (c. 1466-1527)​

Kleve

Count Johann I of Kleve (1293-1368) >< Duchess Matilda of Gelre (1325-1384)

A1. Duke Dietrich I of Gelre (1347-1394) >< Margaret of Berg (1350-1429)​

B1. Duke Johann I of Gelre (1373-1448) >< a. Agnes of the Palatimate (1379-1401) >< Marie of Burgundy (1393-1466)​

C1. Margaret of Gelre (1416-1444) >< a. Duke Wilhelm I of Bavaria-Munich (1375-1435) b. Count Ulrich V of Württemberg (1413-1480)​

C2. Catherine of Gelre (1417-1479) >< Count Arnold II of Egmond (1410-1473)​

C3. King John II of Bohemia (1419-1481) >< Queen Agnes III of Bohemia (1423-1471)​

D1. Agnes of Bohemia (1442-1458)​

D2. Barbara of Bohemia (1445-1449)​

D3. Václav of Bohemia (1447)​

D4. Detřich of Bohemia (1449-1469)​

D5. King Bedřich II of Bohemia (1451-1486) >< Catherine of Saxony (1447-1495)​

E1. John of Bohemia (1471-1475)​

E2. Bedřich of Bohemia (1474-1481)​

D6. Maria of Bohemia (1454-1480)​

D7. Václav of Bohemia (1456-1460)​

D8. King John III of Bohemia (1458-1521) >< a. Countess Elisabeth of Mark (1453-1477) b. Matilda of Hesse (1473-1505)​

E1b. King John IV of Bohemia (1490-1539) >< Maria of Jülich (1491-1543)​

....F1. Sybille of Bohemia (1512-1554) >< Elector Johann Friedrich I of Saxony (1503-1554)​

....F2. Anna of Bohemia (1515-1557) >< King Eystein VII of England (1491-1547)​

....F3. King William I of Bohemia (1516-1592) >< Anna of Poland (1523-1596)​

.......G1. John of Bohemia (1541-1551)​

.......G2. William of Bohemia (1543-1544)​

.......G3. King Vladislav IV of Bohemia (1547-1608) >< Amelia of Austria (1550-1599)​

.......G4. Maria of Bohemia (1550-1608)​

.......G5. Anna of Bohemia (1552-1632)​

.......G6. Magdalene of Bohemia (1553–1633)​

.......G7. Karel of Bohemia (1555-1575)​

.......G8. Elisabeth of Bohemia (1556-1561)​

.......G9. Sybille of Bohemia (1557-1627)​

.......G10. Archbishop Sigismund II of Magdeburg (1559-1609)​

....F4. Amalia of Bohemia (1517-1586)​

E2b. Anna of Bohemia (1495-1567)​

E3b. Jindřich of Bohemia (1498-1525)​

C4. Elisabeth of Gelre (1420-1488) >< Count Heinrich XXVI of Schwarzburg-Blankenburg (1418-1488)​

C5. Agnes of Kleve (1422-1446) >< Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

C6. Helena of Gelre (1423-1471) >< Duke Heinrich II of Brunswick-Lüneburg (1411-1473)​

C7. Duke Dietrich II of Gelre (1425-1472) >< Beatriz of Coimbra (1435-1462)​

D1. Duke Johann II of Gelre (1455-1481)​

D2. Beatrice of Gelre (1457-1524) >< Emperor Wilhelm III of Germany (1455-1511)​

C8. Maria of Gelre (1426-1487) >< Duke Charles of Orléans (1394-1465)​

B2. Reginald of Gelre (1376-1406)​

B3. Elisabeth of Gelre (1378-1424) >< a. Reynold of Valkenburg (c. 1370-1396) b. Elector Stephen III of Bavaria (1337-1413)​

B4. Dietrich of Gelre (1383-1402)​

B5. Matilda of Gelre (1386-1426) >< Duke Johann I of Jülich (1382-1405)​

A2. Matilda of Kleve (1349-1368)​

​

Mark

Count Adolf II of Mark (1300-1347) >< Margaret of Kleve (1310-1352)

A1. Count Engelbert III of Mark (1333-1391) >< a. Richardis of Jülich (1338-1360) b. Elisabeth of Sponheim (1365-1417)​

B1a. Count Adolf III of Mark (1357-1418) >< Sophia of Leiningen (1361-1420)​

C1. Engelberta of Mark (1383-1458) >< Count Friedrich IV of Moers (1375-1448)​

C2. Engelbert of Mark (1385-1397)​

C3. Count Adolf IV of Mark (1387-1420) >< Elisabeth of Waldeck-Landau (1391-1442)​

D1. Count Adolf V of Mark (1410-1437) >< Adelaide of Sayn (1411-1477)​

E1. Count Engelbert IV of Mark (1430-1461) >< Sophia of Saxe-Lauenburg (1428-1472)​

....F1. Countess Adelaide I of Mark (1449-1468) >< Count Engelbert II of Vianden (1451-1504)​

....F2. Sophia of Mark (1452-1463)​

....F3. Countess Elisabeth of Mark (1453-1477) >< King John III of Bohemia (1458-1521)​

....F4. Adolf of Mark (1457-1458)​

....F5. Agnes of Mark (1458)​

E2. Adolf of Mark (1431-1450)​

E3. Countess Adelaide II of Mark (1434-1495) >< Duke Gerhard VI of Jülich (1416-1475)​

D2. Count Engelbert I of Nevers (1411-1465) >< Countess Margaret of Nevers (1411-1461)​

E. Counts of Nevers (House of Mark)​

D3. Elisabeth of Mark (1413-1435) >< Burgrave Friedrich VIII of Nuremberg (1413-1471)​

C4. Friedrich of Mark (1392-1407)​

C5. Dietrich of Mark (1393)​

C6. Sophia of Mark (1398-1431)​

B2a. Margaret of Mark (1359-1410) >< Count Philip X of Falkenstein (1335-1407)​

A2. Archbishop Adolf II of Köln (1334-1394)​

A3. Bishop Thierry of Liège (1336-1406)​

A4. Eberhard of Mark (1341-1362)​

A5. Margaret of Mark (1342-1409) >< Count Johann I of Nassau-Siegen (1339-1416)​

A6. Mathilde of Mark (1344-1390)​

1. Did John II continued to reign as King of Bohemia after the death of his wife Agnes III?
2. I assume that Maximilian of Swabia succeeded Wilhelm III as Emperor of Germany?
3. Does the Kalmar Union still come about in TTL?
4. Are there any other monarchies in the Balkans during the 16th century that haven’t been conquered by the Ottomans besides the Morea?
5. Did any of the constituent states in the HRE converted to Protestantism and stuck to it?

 

[Mildtryth]

1. Did John II continued to reign as King of Bohemia after the death of his wife Agnes III?
2. I assume that Maximilian of Swabia succeeded Wilhelm III as Emperor of Germany?
3. Does the Kalmar Union still come about in TTL?
4. Are there any other monarchies in the Balkans during the 16th century that haven’t been conquered by the Ottomans besides the Morea?
5. Did any of the constituent states in the HRE converted to Protestantism and stuck to it?

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. No.
4. Bosnia, Serbia, Wallachia and Moldavia. Also, i forgot to mention that it isn't exactly the Ottomans going through the Balkans, but the Sultanate of Rum - one of these changes from OTL is that the Mongols don't come up, so the Sultanate of Rum doesn't fragment itself in the 13th century. However, even at its peak, it's still not as successful as the OTL Ottoman Empire in spreading through the Mediterranean.
5. In the long run, Mecklenburg, Pomerania, Saxony, Anhalt, the Osterland duchies, Saxe-Lauenburg and Holstein.

 

[RedKing]

POD - Elizabeth of York and Charles VIII die in 1496, all the while Anne of Brittany flees home to her Duchy.

King Henry VII of England (1457-1512) m. a). Elizabeth of York (1466-1496) b). Anne, Duchess of Brittany (1477-1513), had issue

1. Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1506) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1555), had issue​

1. King John II of England (1502-1557)​

2. Princess Margaret of England (1503-1561)​

3. Prince Edmund of England (1505-1561)​

2. Princess Margaret of England (1489-1542) m. King James IV of Scotland (1473-1526), had issue​

1. James, Duke of Rothesay (1504-1510)​

2. King Arthur I of Scotland (1506-1559)​

3. Princess Margaret of Scotland (1508-1559)​

4. Prince Alexander, Duke of Ross (1511-1547)​

5. Princess Elizabeth of Scotland (1511-1567)​

3. Prince Henry, Duke of York (1491-1547) m. Lady Anne Welles, Viscountess Welles (1491-1548) [1], had issue​

1. Edward, Duke of York (1507-1559)​

2. John, Earl of Rutland (1510-1565)​

3. Lady Anne of York (1511-1567)​

4. Lady Elizabeth of York (1513-1570)​

5. Lady Margaret of York (1515-1555)​

6. Henry, Archbishop of York (1517-1579)​

4. Princess Mary of England (1496-1512) m. King Miguel I of Iberia (1498-1548), had issue​

1. King Juan III of Iberia (1512-1589)​

5. Prince Edmund, Duke of Brittany and Somerset (1497-1539) m. Margarita of Savoy (1501-1557) [2], had issue​

1. Duke Francis III of Brittany (1518-1574)​

2. Lady Anne of Brittany (1519-1567)​

3. Henry, Count of Etamples (1521-1579)​

4. Lady Margaret of Brittany (1523-1575)​

5. Lady Katherine of Brittany (1525-1579)​

6. Princess Anne of England (1500-1555) m. Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500-1558), had issue​

1. Holy Roman Emperor Philip II (1517-1572)​

2. John, Duke of Brabant (1519-1579)​

3. Anne of Burgundy (1522-1569)​

4. Isabel of Burgundy (1525-1576)​

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[1] An otl daughter of John, Viscount Welles and Cecily of York. She lives here and becomes heiress to her father’s lands and marries Henry Tudor.
[2] Alt daughter of Margaret of Austria and Philibert of Savoy.

 

[isabella]

POD - Elizabeth of York and Charles VIII die in 1496, all the while Anne of Brittany flees home to her Duchy.

King Henry VII of England (1457-1512) m. a). Elizabeth of York (1466-1496) b). Anne, Duchess of Brittany (1477-1513), had issue

1. Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1506) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1555), had issue​

1. King John II of England (1502-1557)​

2. Princess Margaret of England (1503-1561)​

3. Prince Edmund of England (1505-1561)​

2. Princess Margaret of England (1489-1542) m. King James IV of Scotland (1473-1526), had issue​

1. James, Duke of Rothesay (1504-1510)​

2. King Arthur I of Scotland (1506-1559)​

3. Princess Margaret of Scotland (1508-1559)​

4. Prince Alexander, Duke of Ross (1511-1547)​

5. Princess Elizabeth of Scotland (1511-1567)​

3. Prince Henry, Duke of York (1491-1547) m. Lady Anne Welles, Viscountess Welles (1491-1548) [1], had issue​

1. Edward, Duke of York (1507-1559)​

2. John, Earl of Rutland (1510-1565)​

3. Lady Anne of York (1511-1567)​

4. Lady Elizabeth of York (1513-1570)​

5. Lady Margaret of York (1515-1555)​

6. Henry, Archbishop of York (1517-1579)​

4. Princess Mary of England (1496-1512) m. King Miguel I of Iberia (1498-1548), had issue​

1. King Juan III of Iberia (1512-1589)​

5. Prince Edmund, Duke of Brittany and Somerset (1497-1539) m. Margarita of Savoy (1501-1557) [2], had issue​

1. Duke Francis III of Brittany (1518-1574)​

2. Lady Anne of Brittany (1519-1567)​

3. Henry, Count of Etamples (1521-1579)​

4. Lady Margaret of Brittany (1523-1575)​

5. Lady Katherine of Brittany (1525-1579)​

6. Princess Anne of England (1500-1555) m. Holy Roman Emperor Charles V (1500-1558), had issue​

1. Holy Roman Emperor Philip II (1517-1572)​

2. John, Duke of Brabant (1519-1579)​

3. Anne of Burgundy (1522-1569)​

4. Isabel of Burgundy (1525-1576)​

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[1] An otl daughter of John, Viscount Welles and Cecily of York. She lives here and becomes heiress to her father’s lands and marries Henry Tudor.
[2] Alt daughter of Margaret of Austria and Philibert of Savoy.

Miguel marrying Mary instead of Madeleine or Catherine of Navarre is extremely unlikely

 

[RedKing]

Miguel marrying Mary instead of Madeleine or Catherine of Navarre is extremely unlikely

Even if their brothers live/survive here?

 

[isabella]

Even if their brothers live/survive here?

Yes. Ferdinand II would still want that match and use it for annexing Navarre or trying to do it. Remember also who with a surviving Miguel and no Philip around (and that would likely change the birthdates of all his children after Isabella as OTL Ferdinand was conceived and born in Spain) Ferdinand would NOT remarry to Germaine (or anyone else) and so would keep power and influence in Castile until his death

 

[Mildtryth]

Well, this one will have to come in parts - first, England and the House of Grebein until 1400.

King Eystein I of Norway (1088-1123) >< Ingebjørg Guttormsdatter (c. 1100-?)

A1. Maria Eysteinsdóttir (c. 1120-?) >< Gudbrand Skavhoggsson (c. 1110-?)​

B1. Olaf Gudbrandsson 'Ugjæva' (c. 1140-1169)​

B2. Eystein Gudbrandsson 'Gråbein' (c. 1142-1207) >< Lady Alice of Prudhoe (c. 1160-1215)​

C1. Gudbrand Gråbein (1180-1206)​

C2. Gilbert Gråbein (1182-1192)​

C3. King Harold V of England (1185-1234) >< Queen Eleanor of England (1190-1230)​

D1. King Eystein I of England (1207-1272) >< Blanche of Aquitaine (1221-1278)​

E1. King Edward IV of England (1239-1307)​

E2. Blanche of England (1240-1275) >< King Alexander III of Scotland (1241-1283)​

E3. Agnes of England (1242-1275) >< Duke Jean II of Brittany (1239-1305)​

E4. Earl Edmund of Lancaster (1245-1296) >< a. Aveline of Albemarle (1258-1273) b. Blanche of Artois (1248-1302)​

....F. Earls of Lancaster​

E5. Catherine of England (1253-1257)​

D2. Earl Olaf of Cornwall (1209-1272) >< a. Isabel Marshal (1200-1240) b. Sancha of Provence (1225-1261)​

E1a. Harold of Cornwall (1232)​

E2a. Isabel of Cornwall (1233-1234)​

E3a. Eystein of Cornwall (1235-1271)​

E4a. Nicholas of Cornwall (1240)​

E5b. Earl Edmund of Cornwall (1249-1300) >< Margaret of Clare (1250-1312)​

D3. Joan of England (1210-1238) >< King Alexander II of Scotland (1198-1249)​

D4. Isabella of England (1214-1241) >< Emperor Friedrich II of Germany (1194-1250)​

D5. Eleanor of England (1215-1275) >< a. Earl William of Pembroke (1190-1231) b. Earl Simon II of Leicester (1208-1273)​

C4. Alice Gråbein (1187)​

C5. Joan Gråbein (1191-1237) >< Prince Llywellyn I of Gwynedd (1173-1240)​

C6. Olaf Gråbein (1192-1246)​

​

King Edward IV of England (1239-1307) >< a. Eleanor of Castille (1241-1290) b. Margaret of France (1279-1318)

A1a. Catherine of England (1261-1264)​

A2a. Joan of England (1264)​

A3a. King Eystein II of England (1266-1317) >< Catherine of Sweden (1268-1323)​

B1. King Edward V of England (1287-1332) >< Isabelle of France (1295-1357)​

C1. King Edward VI of England (1312-1377) >< Philippa of Hainaut (1315-1369)​

D1. King Edward VII of England (1330-1380) >< Joan of Kent (1326-1385)​

E1. Edward of England (1365-1370)​

E2. King Edmund III of England (1366-1400) >< a. Joan of Brabant (1363-1388) b. Margaret of Burgundy (1374-1441)​

D2. Isabella of England (1332-1382) >< Count Enguerrand V of Amiens (1340-1397)​

D3. Joan of England (1334-1348)​

D4. Eystein of England (1337)​

D5. Duke Waldemar of Clarence (1338-1368)​

D6. Duke John of Lancaster (1340-1399)​

D7. Duke Edmund of York (1341-1402)​

D8. Blanche of England (1342)​

D9. Mary of England (1344-1361) >< Duke Jean IV of Brittany (1339-1399)​

D10. Margaret of England (1346-1361) >< Earl John of Pembroke (1347-1375)​

D11. Thomas of England (1347)​

D12. William of England (1348)​

D13. Duke Thomas of Gloucester (1355-1397) >< Countess Eleanor of Hereford (1366-1399)​

E1. Earl Hunfrid of Buckingham (1381-1399)​

E2. Anne of Gloucester (1383-1438) >< a. Earl Thomas of Stafford (1368-1392) b. Earl Edmund of Stafford (1377-1403)​

E3. Joan of Gloucester (1384-1400)​

E4. Isabella of Gloucester (1385-1421)​

C2. Earl Waldemar of Cornwall (1316-1336)​

C3. Eleanor of England (1318-1355) >< Duke Reginald II of Gelre (1295-1343)​

C4. Joan of England (1321-1362) >< King David II of Scotland (1324-1371)​

B2. Catherine of England (1290-1308)​

B3. Eleanor of England (1292-1330) >< King Owain II of Wales (1280-1333)​

B4. Margaret of England (1293)​

B5. Earl Waldemar of York (1296-1333) >< Maud of Burgh (1297-1330)​

A4a. Alphonso of England (1268-1274)​

A5a. Eleanor of England (1269-1298) >< Count Henri III of Bar (1259-1302)​

A6a. Joan of England (1272-1307) >< a. Earl Gilbert II of Gloucester (1243-1295) b. Earl Wiglaf of Gloucester (1270-1325)​

A7a. Earl Henry of Chester (1273-1284) ]=[ Margaret of Holland (1276-1287)​

A8a. Blanche of England (1275-1334) >< Duke Jan II of Brabant (1275-1312)​

A9a. Berengaria of England (1276-1318)​

A10a. Mary of England (1278-1331)​

A11a. Elisabeth of England (1282-1316) >< a. Count Jan I of Holland (1284-1299) b. Earl Hunfrid III of Hereford (1276-1322)​

A12a. King Edward I of Scotland (1282-1328) >< Queen Margaret of Scotland (1283-1348)​

B1. Margaret of Scotland (1302-1327) >< Earl Robert of Carrick (1274-1329)​

C1. Margaret of Carrick (1319-1346) >< Earl William IV of Sutherland (c. 1310-1370)​

D1. John of Sutherland (1344-1361)​

C2. Matilda of Carrick (1320-1353) >< Earl Patrick V of Dunbar (1285-1369)​

D. Kings of Scotland (House of Dunbar)​

C3. King David II of Scotland (1324-1371) >< a. Joan of England (1321-1362) b. Margaret Drummond (1340-1375)​

C4. John of Carrick (1324-1326)​

C5. Elisabeth of Carrick (1327-1362) >< Walter Oliphant (1318-1387)​

B2. Edward of Scotland (1303-1312)​

B3. Eystein of Scotland (1305-1308)​

B4. Alexander of Scotland (1307-1321)​

B5. Eleanor of Scotland (1309-1325)​

B6. Eric of Scotland (1312-1340) >< Helvig of Norway (1320-1389)​

C1. Margaret of Scotland (1339-1357) >< Robert I, High Steward of Scotland (1316-1390)​

D1. Earl David of Strathearn (1357-1386) >< Euphemia Lindsay (1362-?)​

E1. Countess Margaret of Strathearn (1383-1434) >< Patrick Graham (1382-1413)​

....F. Earls of Menteith​

B7. King Edward II of Scotland (1314-1363) >< Countess Agnes of Moray (1312-1369)​

C1. Edward of Scotland (1333-1354) >< Euphemia of Ross (1329-1386)​

C2. Agnes of Scotland (1336-1337)​

C3. Thomas of Scotland (1338-1350)​

A13b. Earl Thomas of Norfolk (1300-1338) >< a Alice of Hales (c. 1305-1330) b. Mary of Brewes (c. 1320-1362)​

B1. Countess Margaret of Norfolk (1322-1399) >< a. Baron John II of Seagrave (1315-1353) b. Baron Walter of Masny (1310-1372)​

C1a. Elisabeth of Seagrave (1338-?) >< Baron John III of Mowbray (1340-1368)​

D. Earls of Norfolk (Mowbray)​

C2a. John of Seagrave (1339-1353)​

C3b. Baroness Anne of Masny (1355-1384) >< Earl John of Pembroke (1347-1375)​

C4b. Thomas of Masny (1357-1362)​

B2. Edward of Norfolk (1323-1334)​

B3. Alice of Norfolk (1324-1352) >< Baron Amalric II of Saint-Amand (1315-1381)​

A14b. Earl Edmund I of Kent (1301-1330) >< Margaret Wake (1297-1349)​

B1. Earl Edmund II of Kent (1326-1331)​

B2. Margaret of Kent (1327-1352)​

B3. Joan of Kent (1326-1385) >< a. Earl Thomas I of Kent (1314-1360) b. Earl Gudred III of Man (1301-1344) c. King Edward VII of England (1330-1380)​

C1a. Earl Thomas II of Kent (1350-1397) >< Alice of Surrey (1350-1416)​

D1. Eleanor of Kent (1370-1405) >< a. Earl Roger III of March (1374-1398) b. Baron Edward Charleton (1371-1421)​

D2. Earl Thomas III of Kent (1372-1400)​

D3. John of Kent (1374-1394)​

D4. Richard of Kent (1376-1396)​

D5. Joan of Kent (1380-1434) >< a. Duke Edmund of York (1341-1402) b. Baron William Willoughby (1370-1409) c. Baron Henry Scrope (1373-1415)​

D6. Earl Edmund III of Kent (1383-1408)​

D7. Margaret of Kent (1385-1439) >< a. Earl John of Somerset (1373-1410) b. Duke Thomas of Clarence (1387-1421)​

D8. Elisabeth of Kent (1388-1423) >< John Neville (1387-1420)​

D9. Eleanor of Kent (1389-1413) >< Earl Magnus II of Man (1388-1428)​

C2a. Duke John I of Exeter (1352-1400) >< Elisabeth of Lancaster (1363-1426)​

D. Dukes of Exeter​

C3a. Maud of Kent (1354-1392) >< a. Hugh of Courtenay (1345-1374) b. Count Waléran III of Ligny (1355-1415)​

C4a. Joan of Kent (1356-1384) >< Duke Jean IV of Brittany (1339-1399)​

B4. Earl John of Kent (1330-1352) >< Elisabeth of Jülich (1335-1411)​

A15b. Eleanor of England (1306-1311)​

 

[RedKing]

Yes. Ferdinand II would still want that match and use it for annexing Navarre or trying to do it. Remember also who with a surviving Miguel and no Philip around (and that would likely change the birthdates of all his children after Isabella as OTL Ferdinand was conceived and born in Spain) Ferdinand would NOT remarry to Germaine (or anyone else) and so would keep power and influence in Castile until his death

Let’s just say none of the Navarre girls survived then.

 

[TheBeanieBaron]

Well, this one will have to come in parts - first, England and the House of Grebein until 1400.

King Eystein I of Norway (1088-1123) >< Ingebjørg Guttormsdatter (c. 1100-?)

A1. Maria Eysteinsdóttir (c. 1120-?) >< Gudbrand Skavhoggsson (c. 1110-?)​

B1. Olaf Gudbrandsson 'Ugjæva' (c. 1140-1169)​

B2. Eystein Gudbrandsson 'Gråbein' (c. 1142-1207) >< Lady Alice of Prudhoe (c. 1160-1215)​

C1. Gudbrand Gråbein (1180-1206)​

C2. Gilbert Gråbein (1182-1192)​

C3. King Harold V of England (1185-1234) >< Queen Eleanor of England (1190-1230)​

D1. King Eystein I of England (1207-1272) >< Blanche of Aquitaine (1221-1278)​

E1. King Edward IV of England (1239-1307)​

E2. Blanche of England (1240-1275) >< King Alexander III of Scotland (1241-1283)​

E3. Agnes of England (1242-1275) >< Duke Jean II of Brittany (1239-1305)​

E4. Earl Edmund of Lancaster (1245-1296) >< a. Aveline of Albemarle (1258-1273) b. Blanche of Artois (1248-1302)​

....F. Earls of Lancaster​

E5. Catherine of England (1253-1257)​

D2. Earl Olaf of Cornwall (1209-1272) >< a. Isabel Marshal (1200-1240) b. Sancha of Provence (1225-1261)​

E1a. Harold of Cornwall (1232)​

E2a. Isabel of Cornwall (1233-1234)​

E3a. Eystein of Cornwall (1235-1271)​

E4a. Nicholas of Cornwall (1240)​

E5b. Earl Edmund of Cornwall (1249-1300) >< Margaret of Clare (1250-1312)​

D3. Joan of England (1210-1238) >< King Alexander II of Scotland (1198-1249)​

D4. Isabella of England (1214-1241) >< Emperor Friedrich II of Germany (1194-1250)​

D5. Eleanor of England (1215-1275) >< a. Earl William of Pembroke (1190-1231) b. Earl Simon II of Leicester (1208-1273)​

C4. Alice Gråbein (1187)​

C5. Joan Gråbein (1191-1237) >< Prince Llywellyn I of Gwynedd (1173-1240)​

C6. Olaf Gråbein (1192-1246)​

​

King Edward IV of England (1239-1307) >< a. Eleanor of Castille (1241-1290) b. Margaret of France (1279-1318)

A1a. Catherine of England (1261-1264)​

A2a. Joan of England (1264)​

A3a. King Eystein II of England (1266-1317) >< Catherine of Sweden (1268-1323)​

B1. King Edward V of England (1287-1332) >< Isabelle of France (1295-1357)​

C1. King Edward VI of England (1312-1377) >< Philippa of Hainaut (1315-1369)​

D1. King Edward VII of England (1330-1380) >< Joan of Kent (1326-1385)​

E1. Edward of England (1365-1370)​

E2. King Edmund III of England (1366-1400) >< a. Joan of Brabant (1363-1388) b. Margaret of Burgundy (1374-1441)​

D2. Isabella of England (1332-1382) >< Count Enguerrand V of Amiens (1340-1397)​

D3. Joan of England (1334-1348)​

D4. Eystein of England (1337)​

D5. Duke Waldemar of Clarence (1338-1368)​

D6. Duke John of Lancaster (1340-1399)​

D7. Duke Edmund of York (1341-1402)​

D8. Blanche of England (1342)​

D9. Mary of England (1344-1361) >< Duke Jean IV of Brittany (1339-1399)​

D10. Margaret of England (1346-1361) >< Earl John of Pembroke (1347-1375)​

D11. Thomas of England (1347)​

D12. William of England (1348)​

D13. Duke Thomas of Gloucester (1355-1397) >< Countess Eleanor of Hereford (1366-1399)​

E1. Earl Hunfrid of Buckingham (1381-1399)​

E2. Anne of Gloucester (1383-1438) >< a. Earl Thomas of Stafford (1368-1392) b. Earl Edmund of Stafford (1377-1403)​

E3. Joan of Gloucester (1384-1400)​

E4. Isabella of Gloucester (1385-1421)​

C2. Earl Waldemar of Cornwall (1316-1336)​

C3. Eleanor of England (1318-1355) >< Duke Reginald II of Gelre (1295-1343)​

C4. Joan of England (1321-1362) >< King David II of Scotland (1324-1371)​

B2. Catherine of England (1290-1308)​

B3. Eleanor of England (1292-1330) >< King Owain II of Gwynedd (1280-1333)​

B4. Margaret of England (1293)​

B5. Earl Waldemar of York (1296-1333) >< Maud of Burgh (1297-1330)​

A4a. Alphonso of England (1268-1274)​

A5a. Eleanor of England (1269-1298) >< Count Henri III of Bar (1259-1302)​

A6a. Joan of England (1272-1307) >< a. Earl Gilbert II of Gloucester (1243-1295) b. Earl Wiglaf of Gloucester (1270-1325)​

A7a. Earl Henry of Chester (1273-1284) ]=[ Margaret of Holland (1276-1287)​

A8a. Blanche of England (1275-1334) >< Duke Jan II of Brabant (1275-1312)​

A9a. Berengaria of England (1276-1318)​

A10a. Mary of England (1278-1331)​

A11a. Elisabeth of England (1282-1316) >< a. Count Jan I of Holland (1284-1299) b. Earl Hunfrid III of Hereford (1276-1322)​

A12a. King Edward I of Scotland (1282-1328) >< Queen Margaret of Scotland (1283-1348)​

B1. Margaret of Scotland (1302-1327) >< Earl Robert of Carrick (1274-1329)​

C1. Margaret of Carrick (1319-1346) >< Earl William IV of Sutherland (c. 1310-1370)​

D1. John of Sutherland (1344-1361)​

C2. Matilda of Carrick (1320-1353) >< Earl Patrick V of Dunbar (1285-1369)​

D. Kings of Scotland (House of Dunbar)​

C3. King David II of Scotland (1324-1371) >< a. Joan of England (1321-1362) b. Margaret Drummond (1340-1375)​

C4. John of Carrick (1324-1326)​

C5. Elisabeth of Carrick (1327-1362) >< Walter Oliphant (1318-1387)​

B2. Edward of Scotland (1303-1312)​

B3. Eystein of Scotland (1305-1308)​

B4. Alexander of Scotland (1307-1321)​

B5. Eleanor of Scotland (1309-1325)​

B6. Eric of Scotland (1312-1340) >< Helvig of Norway (1320-1389)​

C1. Margaret of Scotland (1339-1357) >< Robert I, High Steward of Scotland (1316-1390)​

D1. Earl David of Strathearn (1357-1386) >< Euphemia Lindsay (1362-?)​

E1. Countess Margaret of Strathearn (1383-1434) >< Patrick Graham (1382-1413)​

....F. Earls of Menteith​

B7. King Edward II of Scotland (1314-1363) >< Countess Agnes of Moray (1312-1369)​

C1. Edward of Scotland (1333-1354) >< Euphemia of Ross (1329-1386)​

C2. Agnes of Scotland (1336-1337)​

C3. Thomas of Scotland (1338-1350)​

A13b. Earl Thomas of Norfolk (1300-1338) >< a Alice of Hales (c. 1305-1330) b. Mary of Brewes (c. 1320-1362)​

B1. Countess Margaret of Norfolk (1322-1399) >< a. Baron John II of Seagrave (1315-1353) b. Baron Walter of Masny (1310-1372)​

C1a. Elisabeth of Seagrave (1338-?) >< Baron John III of Mowbray (1340-1368)​

D. Earls of Norfolk (Mowbray)​

C2a. John of Seagrave (1339-1353)​

C3b. Baroness Anne of Masny (1355-1384) >< Earl John of Pembroke (1347-1375)​

C4b. Thomas of Masny (1357-1362)​

B2. Edward of Norfolk (1323-1334)​

B3. Alice of Norfolk (1324-1352) >< Baron Amalric II of Saint-Amand (1315-1381)​

A14b. Earl Edmund I of Kent (1301-1330) >< Margaret Wake (1297-1349)​

B1. Earl Edmund II of Kent (1326-1331)​

B2. Margaret of Kent (1327-1352)​

B3. Joan of Kent (1326-1385) >< a. Earl Thomas I of Kent (1314-1360) b. Earl Gudred III of Man (1301-1344) c. King Edward VII of England (1330-1380)​

C1a. Earl Thomas II of Kent (1350-1397) >< Alice of Surrey (1350-1416)​

D1. Eleanor of Kent (1370-1405) >< a. Earl Roger III of March (1374-1398) b. Baron Edward Charleton (1371-1421)​

D2. Earl Thomas III of Kent (1372-1400)​

D3. John of Kent (1374-1394)​

D4. Richard of Kent (1376-1396)​

D5. Joan of Kent (1380-1434) >< a. Duke Edmund of York (1341-1402) b. Baron William Willoughby (1370-1409) c. Baron Henry Scrope (1373-1415)​

D6. Earl Edmund III of Kent (1383-1408)​

D7. Margaret of Kent (1385-1439) >< Earl John of Somerset (1373-1410)​

D8. Elisabeth of Kent (1388-1423) >< John Neville (1387-1420)​

D9. Eleanor of Kent (1389-1413) >< Earl Magnus II of Man (1388-1428)​

C2a. Duke John I of Exeter (1352-1400) >< Elisabeth of Lancaster (1363-1426)​

D. Dukes of Exeter​

C3a. Maud of Kent (1354-1392) >< a. Hugh of Courtenay (1345-1374) b. Count Waléran III of Ligny (1355-1415)​

C4a. Joan of Kent (1356-1384) >< Duke Jean IV of Brittany (1339-1399)​

B4. Earl John of Kent (1330-1352) >< Elisabeth of Jülich (1335-1411)​

A15b. Eleanor of England (1306-1311)​

1. Does England still conquer Wales?
2. Has Spain been close to inheriting Portugal as of the late 16th century?
3. Is the House of Valois still around at the end of the 16th century?
4. Does Norway remain independent longer than in OTL?
5. When did France inherit Brittany?

 

[Mildtryth]

1. Does England still conquer Wales?
2. Has Spain been close to inheriting Portugal as of the late 16th century?
3. Is the House of Valois still around at the end of the 16th century?
4. Does Norway remain independent longer than in OTL?
5. When did France inherit Brittany?

1. No.
2. At that point, just in the succession crisis of 1383.
3. Only the Alençon branch.
4. Yes, because it doesn't enter a personal union with Sweden.
5. 1515, when François I became King of France, since he was already married to the Duchess of Brittany by that point.

 

[isabella]

Let’s just say none of the Navarre girls survived then.

Pretty unlikely as Catherine of Navarre had 6 girls of a good age for Miguel and three of them reached adulthood in OTL. And after them both Eleanor and Isabella of Austria would be likelier matches than Mary Tudor

 

[RedKing]

Pretty unlikely as Catherine of Navarre had 6 girls of a good age for Miguel and three of them reached adulthood in OTL. And after them both Eleanor and Isabella of Austria would be likelier matches than Mary Tudor

Catherine had five sons but only two made it into adulthood, so it’s not impossible. As for Eleanor and Isabella, true, but I wanted Mary for Miguel so let’s just say dowry issues happen or Isabella of Portugal marries Charles V for that alliance.

 

[isabella]

Catherine had five sons but only two made it into adulthood, so it’s not impossible. As for Eleanor and Isabella, true, but I wanted Mary for Miguel so let’s just say dowry issues happen or Isabella of Portugal marries Charles V for that alliance.

Charles will NOT marry Isabella of Portugal (if she existed at all) or another ATL sister of Miguel as an English princess or Anne of Hungary are better and more useful matches for him. Mary to Miguel is extremely unlikely as she has no reason to be chosen over other better matches

 

[RedKing]

Charles will NOT marry Isabella of Portugal (if she existed at all) or another ATL sister of Miguel as an English princess or Anne of Hungary are better and more useful matches for him.

Isabella of Castile still dies ittl and Manuel remarries to Maria of Aragon (that was the plan while Miguel ittl aiui), so Isabella still exists.

Mary to Miguel is extremely unlikely as she has no reason to be chosen over other better matches

It renews the Anglo-Portuguese alliance and an alliance with Brittany which is well positioned to attack France in the Italian Wars. Plus, I just wanted an Englis match for Miguel in general, so…

 

[Mildtryth]

Grebein (Clarence line)

Duke Waldemar of Clarence (1338-1368) >< a. Countess Elisabeth of Ulster (1332-1363) b. Violante Visconti (1354-1386)

A1a. Countess Philippa of Ulster (1355-1382) >< Earl Edmund of March (1352-1381)​

B1. Elisabeth Mortimer (1371-1447) >< a. Henry Percy (1364-1403) b. Baron Thomas Camoys (1351-1421)​

B2. Earl Roger III of March (1374-1398) >< Eleanor of Kent (1370-1405)​

C1. Anne Mortimer (1388-1411) >< Earl Edmund of Cambridge (1385-1415)​

C2. Earl Edmund II of March (1391-1425) >< Anne Stafford (c. 1400-1432)​

C3. Roger Mortimer (1393-1413)​

C4. Eleanor Mortimer (1395-1422) >< a. Edward of Courtenay (1385-1418) b. John Harpeden (c. 1390-1438)​

B3. Philippa Mortimer (1375-1400) >< Earl John II of Pembroke (1372-1392)​

B4. Edmund Mortimer (1376-1409) >< Catrin ferch Owain (1385-1413)​

C1. Roger Mortimer (1408-1430) >< Constance Grey (1410-1447)​

D1. Constance Mortimer (1429-1478) >< King Llywellyn IV of Wales (1423-1489)​

​

Grebein (Lancaster line)

Duke John of Lancaster (1340-1399) ><a. Blanche of Lancaster (1342-1368) b. Constance of Castille (1354-1394) c. Catherine Swynford (1349-1403)

A1a. Philippa of Lancaster (1360-1415) >< King João I of Portugal (1357-1433)​

A2a. John of Lancaster (1362-1364)​

A3a. Elisabeth of Lancaster (1363-1426) >< a. Earl John II of Pembroke (1372-1392) b. Duke John I of Exeter (1352-1400) c. Baron John Cornwall (1364-1443)​

A4a. Edward of Lancaster (1365)​

A5a. John of Lancaster (1366)​

A6a. King Eystein III of England (1367-1413) >< Queen Margaret II of Denmark (1371-1424)​

B1. King Eystein IV of England (1386-1422) >< Catherine of France (1401-1437)​

B2. Duke Thomas of Clarence (1387-1421) >< Margaret of Kent (1385-1439)​

B3. King Magnus I of England (1389-1435) >< a. Anne of Burgundy (1404-1432) b. Jacquetta of Saint-Pol (1415-1472)​

C1a. King Eystein V of England (1421-1471) >< Margaret of Sweden (1430-1482)​

D1. King Edward VIII of England (1453-1481) >< Anne Neville (1456-1485)​

E1. King Edward IX of England (1473-1484)​

C2a. Queen Margaret of England (1423-1495) >< Duke Edmund of York (1411-1475)​

B4. Duke Hacon of Gloucester (1390-1447) >< Eleanor Cobham (1400-1452)​

B5. Blanche of England (1392-1409) >< Elector Palatine Walram III (1378-1436)​

B6. Philippa of England (1394-1430) >< Duke Bogislaw VIII of Pomerania (1382-1459)​

A7b. Catherine of Lancaster (1373-1418) >< King Enrique III of Castille (1379-1406)​

A8b. John of Lancaster (1374-1375)​

A9c. Earl John of Somerset (1373-1410) >< Margaret of Kent (1385-1439)​

B1. Earl Eystein of Somerset (1401-1418)​

B2. Earl John II of Somerset (1403-1444) >< Margaret Beauchamp (1410-1482)​

C1. Margaret of Somerset (1443-1509) >< Earl Edmund of Rutland (1443-1476)​

B3. Joan of Somerset (1404-1445) >< King Patrick I of Scotland (1390-1457)​

B4. Thomas of Somerset (1405-1431)​

B5. Earl Edmund of Somerset (1406-1462) >< Eleanor Beauchamp (1408-1467)​

C. Earls of Somerset​

B6. Margaret of Somerset (1409-1449) >< Earl Thomas of Devon (1414-1458)​

A10c. Bishop Henry III of Winchester (1375-1447)​

A11c. Earl Thomas of Dorset (1377-1426)​

A12c. Joan of Lancaster (1379-1440) >< a. Baron Robert Ferrers of Wem (1373-1396) b. Earl Radulf of Westmorland (1364-1425)​

​

Grebein (York line)

​

Duke Edmund of York (1341-1402) >< a. Isabel of Castille (1355-1392) b. Joan of Kent (1380-1434)

A1. Duke Edward of York (1371-1421) >< Philippa Mohun (1367-1431)​

A2. Constance of York (1374-1416) >< Earl Thomas of Gloucester (1373-1400)​

A3. Earl Edmund of Cambridge (1385-1415) >< Anne Mortimer (1388-1411)​

B1. Isabella of York (1409-1484) >< Earl Siward of Essex (1404-1483)​

B2. Duke Edmund I of York (1411-1475) >< Queen Margaret of England (1423-1495)​

C1. Anne of York (1440-1476) >< Duke Henry of Exeter (1430-1475)​

C2. Duke Edward II of York (1442-1483) >< Elizabeth Woodville (1437-1492)​

D1. Elisabeth of York (1466-1503)​

D2. Mary of York (1467-1482)​

D3. Margaret of York (1469-1507) >< Viscount John Welles (1450-1498)​

D4. Duke Edward III of York (1470-1486)​

D5. Duke Richard of York (1473-1499) >< Elisabeth Tiptoft (1475-1531)​

E1. Earl Edward of Worcester (1493-1509)​

E2. Elisabeth of York (1498-1537)​

D6. Anne of York (1475-1511) >< Earl Thomas III of Norfolk (1473-1554)​

D7. Edmund of York (1477-1479)​

D8. Catherine of York (1479-1527) >< Earl William of Devon (1457-1511)​

D9. Bridget of York (1480-1507)​

C3. Earl Edmund of Rutland (1443-1476) >< Margaret of Somerset (1443-1509)​

D1. Margaret of Rutland (1462-1469)​

D2. Anne of Rutland (1465-1474)​

D3. Elisabeth of Rutland (1470)​

C4. Elisabeth of York (1444-1503) >< Earl John of Suffolk (1442-1492)​

C5. Margaret of York (1446-1503) >< King Charles V of Burgundy (1433-1486)​

C6. Hacon of York (1447)​

C7. Eric of York (1448)​

C8. Duke George of Clarence (1449-1478) >< Isabel Neville (1451-1476)​

D1. Margaret of Clarence (1473-1541)​

D2. Earl Edward of Warwick (1475-1499)​

C9. Thomas of York (1451)​

C10. King Eystein VI of England (1452-1509) >< Gwenllian of Wales (1467-1533)​

D1. Arthur of England (1486-1502)​

D2. Margaret of England (1487-1541) >< King Alexander V of Scotland (1473-1538)​

D3. King Eystein VII of England (1491-1547) >< a. Catherine of Castille (1485-1535) b. Anna of Bohemia (1515-1557)​

E1a. Eystein of England (1511)​

E2a. King Edmund IV of England (1513-1582) >< Hedwig of Poland (1513-1573)​

E3a. Mary of England (1516-1558) >< King Philippe IV of Burgundy (1527-1598)​

E4b. Duke Edward of York (1537-1553)​

D4. Elisabeth of England (1492-1495)​

D5. Edmund of England (1499-1500)​

D6. Catherine of England (1503)​

 

[kasumigenx]

Eleanor of Brittany m. Conrad II of Swabia d. 1200(a)[1] Louis VIII of France(b)

1a. Beatrice of Swabia b. 1199 m. Vratislav of Bohemia d. 1225(a) Wenceslaus I of Bohemia(b)

2a. Philippe III of France b. 1205 m. Alix of Donzy, Countess of Nevers

3a. Constance of France b. 1207 m. Frederick II of HRE

4a. Louis of France, Count of Poitiers b. 1212 m. Joanna of Toulouse

5a. Robert, Count of Artois b. 1214 m. Maria of Portugal, Countess of Flanders b. 1220

6a. Geoffrey, Count of Anjou b. 1216 m. Margaret I of Provence b. 1221

7a. Isabelle of France b. 1220 m. Henry I of Sicily



1.Assasinated due to him claiming Germany

 

[Victoria]

POD: Both Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn die in the Sweat outbreak of 1528. Henry also doesn't have a jousting accident and gets a couple extra years of life and fertility as a result.

Henry VIII of England (1491-1549) m. a) Catherine of Aragon (1485-1528), b) Isabella of Navarre (1512-1566), has relationships with c) Elizabeth Blount (1500-1540), d) Jane Seymour (1508-1537), e) Catherine Howard (1523-1591)

1a) Stillborn daughter (1510)​

2a) Henry, Duke of Cornwall (1511)​

3a) Stillborn son (1513)​

4a) Stillborn son (1514)​

5a) Mary (1516-1558) m. Henry II of France (1519-1564) [1]​

1) Catherine (1534-1601) m. Sigismund II of Poland (1520-1572)​

2) Francis, Dauphin of France (1537-1551)​

3) Claude (1539-1541)​

4) Margaret (1542-1597) m. Charles III, Duke of Lorraine (1543-1608)​

5) Henry III of France (1544-1590) m. a) Isabella of Spain (1548-1573) [2], b) Joanna of Portugal (1556-1619)​

6a) Stillborn daughter (1518)​

7c) Henry Fitzroy, Duke of Richmond and Somerset (1519-1536) m. Mary Howard (1519-1557)​

8b) Elizabeth (1530-1596) m. Manuel II of Portugal (1531-1572) [3]​

1) Catherine (1549)​

2) Isabella (1551-1554)​

3) John IV of Portugal (1553-1609) m. Joanna of Spain (1555-1621) [2]​

4) Joanna (1556-1619) m. Henry III of France (1544-1590)​

5) Manuel (1558)​

6) Afonso, Duke of Viseu (1560-1621) m. Margherita Gonzaga (1564-1618)​

7) Maria (1563-1635) m. Charles Emmanuel I, Duke of Savoy (1562-1630)​

9b) Edward VI of England (1531-1590) m. Maria of Austria (1531-1581)​

1) Henry IX of England (1548-1612) m. Eleanor of Spain (1550-1606) [2]​

2) Isabella (1550-1617) m. a) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (1545-1568), Philip III of Spain (1553-1610) [2]​

3) Anne (1551)​

4) Edward, Duke of Richmond (1553-1615) m. Mary Tudor, Countess of Arundel (1558-1623)​

5) Mary (1555-1563)​

6) Edmund (1557-1558)​

7) William, Duke of Somerset (1560-1629) m. Catherine of Navarre (1559-1604)​

8) Catherine (1562-1563)​

10b) Henry (1532-1533)​

11b) Anne (1534-1577) m. John, Duke of Burgundy (1535-1566) [4]​

1) Charles (1551-1562)​

2) Isabella, Duchess of Burgundy (1553-1611) m. Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (1551-1603) [5]​

3) Anne (1554-1620) m. Charles Frederick, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (1553-1607) [6]​

4) John (1556-1558)​

5) Margaret (1557-1599) m. Albert Frederick, Duke of Prussia (1553-1618)​

6) Joanna (1559)​

7) Stillborn son (1560)​

8) Philip, Duke of Burgundy (1562-1567)​

9) Mary (1564-1629) m. Henry II, Duke of Lorraine (1560-1624) [7]​

12b) Margaret (1536)​

13d) Thomas Fitzroy, Duke of Pembroke (1537-1553)​

14b) John, Duke of York and Suffolk (1538-1603) m. Isabella Grey (1537-1595) [8]​

1) Henry, Earl of Lincoln (1556-1592) m. Anne Boleyn (1556-1618) [9]​

2) Edward (1558)​

3) Isabella (1560-1564)​

4) John, Marquess of Dorset (1563-1621) m. Margaret Howard (1562-1591)​

5) Catherine (1565-1622) m. George Clifford, Earl of Cumberland (1558-1605)​

6) Mary (1567)​

7) Charles (1569-1570)​

8) Eleanor (1572-1617)​

15b) Edmund, Duke of Somerset (1539-1560) m. Mary FitzAlan (1540-1558)​

1) Mary, Countess of Arundel (1558-1623) m. Edward Tudor, Duke of Richmond (1553-1615)​

16b) Stillborn son (1541)​

17e) Catherine Fitzroy (1542-1595) m. Henry Cromwell, Earl of Essex (1538-1592) [10]​

1) Edward, Earl of Essex (1560-1627) m. Frances Stanley (1561-1614) [11]​

2) Cecily (1562-1565)​

18b) Cecily (1543-1599) m. James VI of Scotland (1540-1588) [12]​

1) James, Duke of Rothesay (1560-1561)​

2) Stillborn daughter (1562)​

3) Robert IV of Scotland (1565-1632) m. Anna Vasa (1568-1625)​

4) Mary (1567)​

5) Stillborn son (1570)​

[1] His older brother Francis dies before Henry's marriage to Catherine de Medici.
[2] Children of Philip II of Spain and Maria of Portugal, who doesn't become duchess of Viseu ITTL.
[3] Son of John III of Portugal and Catherine of Austria, died young OTL.
[4] Gender-swapped Joanna of Austria.
[5] Son of Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor and Maria of Austria, died young OTL.
[6] Son of William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg and Catherine of Austria.
[7] Son of Charles III, Duke of Lorraine and Margaret of France.
[8] OTL Jane Grey.
[9] Granddaughter of George Boleyn.
[10] Thomas Cromwell isn't executed ITTL so his family keeps the earldom of Essex.
[11] ATL daughter of Margaret Clifford and Henry Stanley.
[12] Son of James V of Scotland and Mary of Guise, died young OTL.