I see, though I feel like she’d probably nudge her way in there.My guess is that Henry of York will be named lord protector and rule in tandem with a council of nobles and clergymen.
She may try to wield some sort of power...maybe Ferdinand still appoints her as his ambassador? Whatever influence she does have will be of the ‘soft’ kind as it’s pretty likely that she is in charge of at least lady Elizabeth’s upbringing and I would expect that she is permitted frequent visitations with her sons.I see, though I feel like she’d probably nudge her way in there.
I see, maybe she gets a ceremonial advisory role?She may try to wield some sort of power...maybe Ferdinand still appoints her as his ambassador? Whatever influence she does have will be of the ‘soft’ kind as it’s pretty likely that she is in charge of at least lady Elizabeth’s upbringing and I would expect that she is permitted frequent visitations with her sons.
Very unlikely, Catherine isn’t going to get any formal role in her son’s regency.I see, maybe she gets a ceremonial advisory role?
I see, so the best thing she can do is try and annoy the council into doing what she wantsVery unlikely, Catherine isn’t going to get any formal role in her son’s regency.
In France absolutely yes, in England no way.Really? I thought it was common for the mothers of Kings to take part in the Regency?
ExactlyI see, so the best thing she can do is try and annoy the council into doing what she wants
I see, I honestly thought she would've held more power but I guess it makes sense in 16th century England.In France absolutely yes, in England no way.
Exactly
1) Fernando VI's eldest son will marry Madeleine d'Albret (she was already in Fernando el Catolico's custody for this purpose AIUI)King Ferdinand VI of Spain and Jure Uxois King of Naples (b.1479, d.1555) m. Giovanna of Naples, Queen of Spain and Suo Jure Queen of Naples in 1495 (b.1479, d.1549) (1) had issue
1) Juana of Aragon, Queen of Portugal (b.1497, d.1550) m. King João III of Portugal (b.1497, d.1553) had issue
2) Juan, Prince of Asturias, later Juan III of Spain (b.1499, d.1562) m. Eleanor of Austria, Queen of Spain (b.1500, d.1563) (2) had issue
3) Stillborn son (1501)
4) Alfonso III of Naples (b.1504, d.1560) m. Alessandra d'Este, Queen of Naples (3) (b.1505, d.1550) had issue second marriage to Isabel de Toledo, Queen of Naples in 1551 (b.1530, d.1602), had issue
5) Isabella of Aragon, Queen of England (b.1506, d.1567) m. King Henry IX of England (b.1506, d.1552) (4)
6) Infante Pedro, Duke of Cadiz (b.1509, d.1573) m. Buenaventura of Navarre, Duchess of Cadiz (b.1505, d.1554)
7) Blanca of Aragon, Nun/Abbess (b.1511, d.1580) (5)
(1) His cousin, Ferdinand never remarries, heartbroken after his beloved wife's death
(2) A daughter of Maximillian I and Bianca Maria Sforza
(3) Eldest child of Alfonso I d'Este and Lucrezia Borgia is born female and survives infancy
(4) Eldest son of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon, since they marry shortly after Henry's fourteenth birthday, he has an heir in the cradle before his father drops dead.
(5) His daughter becomes a nun, and even though Ferdinand isn't too keen on the idea, he decides it is better than making her marry someone she will resent. Blanca inherits her father's impressive longevity, dying of natural causes at the age of seventy-nine.
Guaranteed1) Fernando VI's eldest son will marry Madeleine d'Albret (she was already in Fernando el Catolico's custody for this purpose AIUI)
Exactly. As soon Ferdinand II of Naples is dead, Ferdinand of Aragon will marry his widowed niece to his second son and put them on the throne of Naples (he tried that in OTL with Giovanna WITHOUT a son to marry to her)2) Fernando el Catolico will need no excuse to install his niece as queen regnant of Naples when her OTL husband dies. He loathes the Trastamaras, excepting his sister/niece.
I would say Eleonora, Lucrezia, Beatrice or Isabella.3) Alessandra is a rather unlikely name for Lucrezia's daughter. Eleonora (for her mom-in-law), Lucrezia, or...big if, Giovanna (for her mom).
Isabel is the elder sister of Eleanor (they had also two younger sisters) and I also can not see that wedding happening. Eleanor will NOT end in Tuscany here (and is unlikely who also Alessandro or Cosimo will become Duke of Florence) but maybe she can end as second wife of Alfonso if he has already sons and remarried for love4) a Toledo match is borderline ASB. The main reason Eleonora de Toledo became grand duchess of Tuscany OTL was because her dad, then brotger, were viceroys of Naples (and Karl V had no other girl available to marry Medici. His daughter was refusing to remarry, and Cosimo was refusing to wait). Since that role is likely to go to Alfonso here, no Toledos. Also, assuming Isabel is Eleonora de Toledo's sister, ICR the name,but Karl V originally proposed Eleonora's sister for Cosimo, and when the Florentine ambassador to Naples saw the girl, he wrote back to Cosimo describing her as "una bruttisima" and described her as "exceptionally ugly". And then BEGGED Cosimo to rather delay a few weeks, since there were already marriage talks for Eleonora's ugly sister and honour could be satisfied since Cosimo would then be able to marry Eleonora with no scandal. Cosimo responded by commissioning a nude portrait of himself as Orpheus by Bronzino (was the 16th century version of a "dick pic") and sending it to Naples (and using that as an excuse for the delay).
True and true5) Cadiz is an unlikely dukedom. A traditional royal dukedom like Peñafiel or Villena might go better. Fernando VII only gave it to his youngest brother OTL because he doubted the paternity of the guy and didn't want him to be addressed as infante.
6) nuns living exceptionally long wasn't unheard of. And it certainly had little to do with genetics. Nuns were removed from the dangers of childbed (which a contemporary Venetian compared to the Plague in that only one in three survived) had access to the best healthcare and subsisted on a diet free of the rich, fatty foods nd alcohol that caused their royal betters to be plagued with gout.
In all honesty, I picked Alessandra since that would be the female version of her maternal grandfather's name, which doesn't seem all that unlikely given that Alfonso and Lucrezia named their eldest son Alessandro. I honestly wasn't sure about who should marry Alfonso, but I was thinking either a local high ranking noble, or perhaps an Italian would work, the latter would be more useful once he is King of Naples. Of course nuns would have lived longer, but, OTL Juana's youngest daughter also inherited her mother's very long lifespan, and that's with all of her pregancies.Guaranteed
Exactly. As soon Ferdinand II of Naples is dead, Ferdinand of Aragon will marry his widowed niece to his second son and put them on the throne of Naples (he tried that in OTL with Giovanna WITHOUT a son to marry to her)
I would say Eleonora, Lucrezia, Beatrice or Isabella.
Isabel is the elder sister of Eleanor (they had also two younger sisters) and I also can not see that wedding happening. Eleanor will NOT end in Tuscany here (and is unlikely who also Alessandro or Cosimo will become Duke of Florence) but maybe she can end as second wife of Alfonso if he has already sons and remarried for love
True and true
Cristino isn't a name (or a word), the Spanish version of Christian is Cristián.Agustín Cristino
Or Cristiano.Cristino isn't a name (or a word), the Spanish version of Christian is Cristián.
Cristino isn't a name (or a word), the Spanish version of Christian is Cristián.
Or Cristiano.
Actually, several 19th and 20th century Spanish infantes had the name (the male of Cristina):Cristino isn't a name (or a word), the Spanish version of Christian is Cristián.
Nevermind then. I'm from a Spanish speaking country and never heard of that name. It must have fallen out of use.Actually, several 19th and 20th century Spanish infantes had the name (the male of Cristina):
- Alfonso Maria Cristino Justo (1912-1936), son of the duke of Galliera
- Alfonso Pio Cristino, Prince de los Asturias (1907-1938)
- Alfonso Cristino Teresa (1941-1956) the ill-fated brother of Juan Carlos
- Pedro de Alcantara (several names) Cristino, duque de Durcal (1862-1892) son of Infante Sebastian
- Luis (several names) Cristino, duque de Ansola (1864-1889) brother of the preceding