List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage

[WillVictoria]

I'm going to do one based on a thread I commented on made by @VVD0D95 about a second wife for Charles II. I don't think it's been made into a timeline, and either way, it won't be the same so let's go.

Charles II (b.1630 r.1660 d.1685) m. a) Catherine of Braganza (1638-1663) b) Anne Sophie of Denmark (1647-1717)

1b) Henrietta Charlotte, the Princess Royal (1665-1667)
2b) Charles Frederick, Prince of Wales (1668- 1735)
3b) James Christian, Duke of Gloucester (1670- 1734) m. Duchess Charlotte of Brunswick-Luneberg
4b) Sophia Henrietta, The Princess Royal (1673- 1750) m. Frederick IV of Denmark
5b) Anne Amalia (1675- 1719) m. Alexandre Louis, Duke of Valois
6b) Mary Dorothea (1680- 1690)
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Charles III Frederick (b.1668 r.1685 d.1735) m. a) Isabel Luisa, Princess of Beira (b. 1669 m. 1692 d. 1700) b) Sophia Louise of Mecklenburg Schwerin (b. 1685 m. 1705 d. 1713

1a) Charles, Prince of Wales (1695-1696)
2a) Henry, Prince of Wales (1697- 1742)
3a) James, Duke of Cumberland (1700- 1744) m. Sophia Louise of Prussia
4b) Frederick, Duke of Cambridge (1706- 1709)
5b) Sophia (1708-1712)
6b) William, Duke of Bedford (1713- 1777) m. Caroline of Hanover
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Henry IX (b. 1697 r.1735 d.1742) m. a) Amalia of Orange (b. 1699 m. 1719 d. 1723)

1a) Elizabeth, the Princess Royal (1720- 1777)
2a) Amalia (1723)​

Elizabeth II (b. 1720 r.1742 d. 1777) m. a) Charles Frederick, Duke of Cumberland (b. 1722 m. 1741 d. 1784)

1a) Henry, Prince of Wales (1743- 1773)
2a) Charles, Duke of Richmond (1745- 1812) m. Sophia Louisa of Sweden
3a) James, Duke of Grafton (1748- 1796) m. Augusta of Saxony
4a) William, Duke of Beaufort (1750- 1781) m. Louisa Maria of Hesse-Darmstadt
5a) Edward, Duke of St.Albans (1750- 1753)
6a) Frederick, Duke of Albany (1752- 1773)
7a) Arthur, Duke of Cambridge (1755- 1787) m. Charlotte of Baden
8a) George, Duke of Rutland (1757- 1822) m. Catherine of Wurttemberg
9a) Amalia, The Princess Royal (1760- 1771)
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Henry, Prince of Wales (b. 1743 d.1773) m. Natalia Petrovna (b. 1745 m. 1763 d. 1770)

1a) Elizabeth Anne (1770 - 1840)
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Elizabeth III (b. 1770 r. 1777 d. 1840) m. a)Prince John of Denmark, Duke of Marlborough (b. 1768 m. 1790 d.1831)

1a) Elizabeth, Princess Royal (1792- 1795)
2a) Natalia, Princess Royal (1794-1821) m. William II of the Netherlands
3a) Sophia (1797- 1876) m. Tsar Alexander II of Russia
4a) Anne (1799- 1840) m. Albert, Duke of Saxe-Meinegin
5a) Henry, the Prince of Wales (1800- 1887)
6a) John, Duke of Albany (1802- 1810)
7a) Louise (1804- 1879) m. King George V of Hanover
8a) Charles, Duke of Sussex (1807- 1894) m. Princess Catherine Elizabeth of Rutland
9a) Mary (1809- 1810)​

Henry X (b.1800 r. 1840 d.1887) m. a) Alexandra of Prussia (b.1803 m. 1825 d. 1842) b) Helena of Greece (b. 1815 m. 1845 d.1886)

1a) Henry, Prince of Wales (1828- 1903)
2a) Elizabeth, Princess Royal (1831- 1878) m. King Magnus of Norway
3a) John, Duke of Albany (1833- 1879) m. Josephine of Baden
4a) Charlotte (1837- 1888) m. Grand Duke Louis III of Hesse
5b) Anna (1846- 1913) m. Frederick, Duke of Saxe-Altenburg
6b) Alexander, Duke of Edinburgh (1848 - 1902) m. Emma of Waldeck-Pyrmont
7b) Charles, Duke of Clarence (1851- 1922) m. Grand Duchess Vera Ivanovna
8b) Natalie (1855- 1941) m. Philip, Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach​

Henry XI (b.1828 r.1887 d. 1903) m. Magdalena of Saxony (b.1830 m. 1853 d.1879)

1a) Alexandra, Princess Royal (1854- 1914) m. King Constantine II of Greece
2a) Charles, Prince of Wales (1857- 1893)
3a) Margaret (1859- 1885) m. George, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg Strelitz
4a) Madeleine (1862- 1903) m. Peter, Duke of Anhalt
5a) Henry, Duke of Kendal (1863- 1889) m. Christina of Schleswig Holstein
6a) Augustus, Duke of Avondale (1865- 1927) m. Viktoria of Romania
7a) John Frederick, Duke of Kent (1868- 1912) m. Stephanie of Saxe Coburg Saafield
8a) Elizabeth (1870 - 1959) m. David, Duke of Somerset​

Charles, Prince of Wales (1857- 1893) m. Cecilia of Sweden (b. 1859 m. 1879 d. 1920)

1a) Charles of Wales (1881- 1955)
2a) Henry of Wales, Duke of Cleveland (1883 - 1953) m. Princess Victoria of Avondale
3a) Cecily of Wales (1886- 1908) m. King William II of Prussia
4a) James of Wales, Duke of Southampton (1888 - 1945) m. Lady Rachel Howard
5a) Madeleine of Wales (1891- 1921) m. Augustus, Duke of Kent
6a) Charlotte of Wales (1893 -1960) Born Posthumously m. King Ferdinand II of Romania​

Charles IV (b. 1881 r. 1903 d. 1955) m. Gisela of Austria (b. 1882 m. 1902 d. 1939)

1a) Charles, Prince of Wales (1905- 1972)
2a) Leopold, Duke of Lennox (1907- 1959) m. Lady Elizabeth Stuart (daughter of the Duke of Grafton)
3a) Richard, Duke of Atholl (1910- 1935)​

Charles V (b.1905 r.1955 d.1972) m. Lady Lydia Percy (b. 1909 m. 1932 d. 1995)

1a) Giselle, Princess Royal (1934- 1999) m. Thomas, Duke of Norfolk
2a) William, Prince of Wales (1936- 2013)
3a) Arthur, Duke of Portland (1937- 1961)
4a) Catherine (1940- 1981) m. Malcolm, Duke of Fife
5a) Edmund, Duke of Dorset (1942- 2020) m. Lady Rebecca Hamilton
6a) Maximilian, Duke of Connaught (1945- 2015) m. Felicity of Orleans
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William III (b. 1936 r. 1972 d. 2013) m. Lady Jacqueline Stewart-Spencer (b. 1942 m. 1966 d. 2039) descendant of Duke of Gloucester

1a) Anne Sophie, The Princess Royal (1967- ) m. Ryan Patterson
2a) Charles, Prince of Wales (1969-)
3a) James, Duke of Portland (1972-) m. Feliciana Agosti
4a) Amelia (1975-) m. Drew Seabrook
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Charles VI (b. 1969 r. 2013 ) m. Brigid Brannon (b. 1972 m. 2007)

1a) The Princess Elizabeth (b. 2009 -)
2a) Prince David (b. 2011-)​

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[VVD0D95]

@WillVictoria love it!

 

[FalconHonour]

I am so tempted to do a 'If Elizabeth I married Robert Dudley' one, but it needs more thought yet. Keep your eyes peeled...

 

[mcdnab]

The Hapsburg Duke's of Milan:

Maximilian I (22 March 1459 - 12 January 1519)
M2) Bianca Maria Sforza (5 April 1472 - 31 December 1510)
Issue
1) AD Frederick of Austria
b 1495 d 1548
m 1516
Bona Sforza
Daughter of Gian Galeazzo Sforza and his wife Isabella of Naples.
b 1494 died 1557

Issue:

Francesco II Duke of Milan
b 1520 r 1548 d 1572
m
Catherine Medici
Duchess of Florence 1565 (nominally - Papal confirmation 1580)
b 1519 d 1589

Seven children

Lorenzo I Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b1538 murdered 1585
m 1565
AD Joanna of Austria
b 1542 d 1579
Issue

Fernando I Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b 1573 r 1585 d1621
m 1591
Princess Elisabeth of France
daughter of Francis II
b 1572 d1633
ISSUE

Lorenzo II Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b 1599 r1621 d1675
m 1618
Maria Duchess of Mantua and Montferrat
B 1604 d 1662
Issue

Lorenzo Duke of Mantua and Montferrat
b 1626 d 1672
m
AD Anne of Austria
d 1701
Issue

Carlo I Fernando Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b 1655 r 1675 d1705
m
1) Eleanor of Savoy
d1688
no issue
2) AD Maria of Austria
b 1677 d 1700
No Issue

Alessandro I Duke of Bergamo Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b 1660 r 1705 d 1712
m 1696
Infanta Isabella of Spain
b 1673 d 1733
Isssue

Carlo II Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany
b 1700 r 1712 d1772
m 1721
Elisabeth of Savoy
b 1704 d 1772
Issue

Carlo III Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany later King of Lombardy
b1728 r 1772 d 1798
m 1750
AD Marie Eleanor of Austria-Naples
b 1732 d 1802
Issue:

Carlo IV Lorenzo King of Lombardy
b 1757 r 1798 d 1809
m 1781
Princess Luisa of Spain
b 1760 d1818
Issue

Luigi I
King of Lombardy 1809
King of Italy 1857
B 1785 d 1859
m1820
Helene dau of the 5th Duke of Orleans
b 1799 d 1879

Giovanni I Carlo
Crown Prince of Lombardy to 1857
Crown Prince of Italy to 1859
King of Italy 1859
b 1823 d1904
m
1) 1847
Isabella
dau of Ferdinand King of Naples and Sicily, AD of Austria
b 1824 d1880
Issue
m2) 1881 Elena Vergine
b1850 d1924
one daughter
Issue by first marriage
1) HRH Princess Maria Louise of Italy
b 1850
2) HRH Crown Prince Luigi Allesandro of Italy (later King Luigi II of Italy)
b 1853 r 1904 d 1913
3) HRH Prince Carlo Lorenzo of Italy, Duke of Brescia
b 1856 d1923
4) HRH Princess Isabella Elena of Italy
b 1859
5) HRH Prince Francesco of Italy, Duke of Bergamo
b1861 d 1902
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Maximilian's second marriage was engineered to try and gain support for Bianca's uncle who had taken control of the Milan Dukedom and in the short term it worked. Ludovico established himself fully in the duchy to the resentment of his late nephew's widow.
The continuing struggle for Milan ended in a French victory however in 1512 Maximilian managed to ensure that Ludovico's son was restored to the Duchy and suggested a marriage with Bona Sforza his cousin settling the division in the family. However before the marriage could be formalized Maximilian Sforza was deposed by the French King who once again occupied Milan. In 1516 The Emperor decided to marry Bona to his only son by Bianca Sforza - Frederick of Austria - 18 months later Imperial Armies managed to force the French out of Italy once again and with Papal approval Frederick was installed as Duke of Milan alongside his Sforza wife.
The Milanese branch of the House of Hapsburg are tended to be described as the House of Austria-Milan or Hapsburg-Milan to distinguish them from the Imperial line descended from Maximilian's first marriage who ruled in the Low Countries, Austria, and Spain.
Duke Frederick or Federigo in Italian and his wife were crafty operators and in the late 1520s made a series of spectacularly profitable alliances with the Medici Papacy - in the late 1520s with the control of the Pope by his nephew he arranged the marriage of his daughter Isabella to Alessandro Medici who his uncle would restore to power in Florence and create Duke of Florence in 1532. Meanwhile Francesco of Milan was betrothed to Catherine Medici Alessandro's legitimate and wealthy sister who was styled Duchess of Urbiuno and had inherited the Auvergne land and wealth in France from her mother. The Duke of Milan was able with papal support to enforce Catherine's claim on Urbino and then using the influence of his cousin Queen Eleanor of France arrange the marriage of his younger daughter to the Duke of Orleans in 1538 using his daughter in law's Auvergne lands to dower her.
With the assassination of Alessandro Duke of Florence - Milan once again used Papal influence to its advantage the Duke's widowed daughter was married to the Duke of Parma to appease the Pope. After the murder and the installation of Cosimo as Duke of Florence the Milanese Duke appealed to the Pope and his nephew the Emperor not to recognise Cosimo and instead allow his son and daughter in law to rule in Florence - Catherine was his argument went the sole legitimate representative of the senior Medici line and her half brother's lawful heir. War with France prevented the Emperor for supporting his uncle though and the Pope was unwilling to intervene but the claim was not forgotten.
Francesco II was greatly influenced by his mother and was dominated by his intelligent Medici wife. During the early part of his reign he was prevented from expansion by the wishes of his cousin the Emperor - the death of Charles V and accession of Ferdinand with whom Francesco had a good relationship was the key to helping Milan's expansion. In 1557 his heir was betrothed to AD Joanna - Ferdinand's youngest daughter. With strong support from Austria he also formally invaded Florence - By 1565 he had forced Cosimo into exile and to appease many named his wife Duchess of Florence though he would be dead before her rights received papal approval.
His son Lorenzo would eventually be formally created Grand Duke of Milan and Tuscany with both Papal and Imperial approval in 1581 however he would be murdered only a short while later.
His son Fernando I was heavily influenced by his grandmother who acted as regent until her death when the 16-year-old Grand Duke took control in his own right - in the 1590s he broke decades of tradition by allying with France aided by his attractive French wife. French support enabled him to expand his territories gaining full and final control of Siena and wresting Bergamo from Venice. However his subsequent fall out with the papacy saw him lose control of Urbino which was annexed back to the Papal states.
His son Lorenzo II would add Mantua and Montferrat to his holdings with the marriage to the last member of the House of Gonzago. Though this lead to war and a long conflict with the Duchy of Savoy which also claimed Montferrat. Lorenzo's reign would last over fifty years and would see further advances for the Grand Duchy ensuring its place as the greatest power in Northern Italy. In the 1660s he finally conquered the republic of Genoa which had been in terminal decline - but he was forced to cede Corsica to the French in the Treaty of Liguria.
Lorenzo II would be succeeded by his grandson as his son died before him. Carlo Fernando was dominated by his Austrian mother and despite two marriages failed to produce any issue. He would die amidst negotiations for his third marriage and was succeeded by his youngest brother Alessandro who had been known as the Duke of Bergamo.
His son would succeed him at just 12 year of age under the regency of his Spanish mother - later in his reign he would face the war for the Spanish succession with the extinction of the Hapsburg Spanish line - he himself had a strong claim through his mother to the Spanish Throne after his other cousins the Duke of Lorraine (who was supported by the French King) and the Austrian AD Leopold who had succeeded to the Duchy of Parma through his grandmother. The subsequent Treaty of Nice saw the Duke of Lorraine installed in Spain ending Hapsburg rule there - Milan would lose some of its Genoese territories to France and Savoy but would gain the Duchy of Parma to accept the installation of AD Leopold as King in Naples. Carlo was disappointed because he had hoped to be able to transform his Grand Duchy into a Kingdom (of Lombardy) but his desires were blocked by both his Austrian cousins and the French. His son would marry AD Leopold's eldest daughter.
The War of the Savoy succession - In 1780 the last Duke of Savoy who was also King of Sardinia died - although he had male relations his nearest relative was his cousin the Grand Duke of Milan - Carlo III immediately invaded Savoy and was acknowledged as Duke of Savoy in Turin in 1782. The great powers however were concerned at the further rise of Carlo's strength in northern Italy. France immediately marched into northern parts of the Duchy of Savoy and Carlo's cousin Leopold in Naples occupied Sardinia. The conflict lasted for some time until finally the Treaty of Avignon was signed - the Duchy of Savoy proper was ceded to France, Milan was permitted to retain Piedmont and Aosta. Reluctant to see Carlo styled King the powers insisted that Sardinia become an independent nation and installed the nearest male relation of the late Duke of Savoy as King.
In the 1790s Milan and Austria would carve up Venice and her territories between them. In 1794 Carlo proclaimed himself King of Lombardy - this spurious claim was something of a joke to many and was a compromise agreed with the Emperor who had refused to countenance Carlo's claim to the ancient Kingdom of Italy. Carlo retained his earlier regnal numbering as King of Lombardy - styling himself Carlo III.
Carlo IV married a Spanish princess and was succeeded by his second surviving son Luigi I.
Luigi would fan the flames of Italian nationalism throughout his reign - in the hope of finally uniting all of Italy - growing liberalism was proving a threat to the remaining independent Italian monarchs - time had reduced them to the Kingdom of Lombardy in the north. The surviving duchy of Ferrara the sole holdout to Hapsburg domination in the north. The papal states in central Italy and the united Kingdom of Naples in the south. To many nationalists though the absolutism of the Lombard Kings was anathema.
In 1828 revolution broke out in Milan and the King and his family were forced to flee the city taking refuge in Turin - the insurrection was suppressed but it was the first rumbling of revolution across Italy. Throughout the 1830s further insurrections took place and in 1836 - the Savoy King of Sardinia was forcibly deposed and exiled to France and the revolutionaries declared the Sardinian Republic.
Fearing the results of revolution the Crown Prince persuaded his father to grant the Lombard Constitution of 1844 - granting limited voting rights, free assembly and free press and the creation of a Chamber of elected deputies. The same year in an appeal to the nationalists the King announced his renunciation of the Royal Families Imperial titles.
In 1848 the Chamber declared that His Majesty the King of the Lombards was best placed to unite Italy into one sole Kingdom and urged His Majesty to declare war on those opposed to the ideal and dream of an independent and united Italy.
The War of Italian reunification would run from 1849 to 1854 and was fought in three stages firstly the swift conquest of Sardinia which was formally merged into the Kingdom of Lombardy with barely a shot fired was followed by the brief war with Austria - The Pope had refused to yield his temporal lands and appealed for Austrian help - however Austria was lukewarm on preventing unification and a small force was swiftly defeated and the Romagna was soon occupied by Lombard forces.
The remaining sticking point was the Kingdom of Naples and Sicily but revolution in 1854 saw the King deposed - an embarrassment for his daughter the Lombard Crown Princess. The nascent Naples republic initially refused to consider unification with Lombardy. However after a heavily corrupt plebiscite Naples and Sicily were merged on May 10 1857 into the Lombard Kingdom.
On May 11 on the steps of the Royal Palace in Milan the Kingdom of Italy was proclaimed - Lombardy's chamber of Deputies became the National Parliament of the Kingdom of Italy and the first constitution of the Kingdom would be signed into law in 1856.
The exiled King of Naples and Sicily issued a decree defying the Italian Kingdom and asserting his rights - he refused to speak to his daughter Isabella again after her husband succeeded as King of Italy in 1859.
Milan remained the capital until a final treaty was drawn up with the Papacy in 1868 establishing Vatican City as independent and sovereign and allowing the Italian capital and parliament to be moved to Rome.
Under the decree of Luigi I of Italy - the royal style was simplified to His or Her Royal Highness Prince or Princess of Italy for members of the family, his eldest son was to be Crown Prince of Italy.

Though the family still bore the surname of Hapsburg much was made of them having been resident in Italy since the 16th Century and their line of descent from the greatest Italian dynasties.

King Giovanni oversaw Italy's transformation into a fully constitutional monarchy - He and his wife lived a relatively simple life preferring to use the Villa Lombard on the outskirts of Rome than the principal palace in Rome. The King had a long standing relationship with the French-born dancer and actress Elena Vergine and after the Queen's death he married her. She was not granted the style of Queen and did not attend formal public events - though she acted as hostess at private occasions. She was created Duchess of Novaro on her marriage and bore the King one daughter Caterina who later became the 2nd Duchess of Novaro and a prominent society hostess.

 

[WillVictoria]

A possibly ASB moment where George II dies in 1731 (let's say he's killed by some butterflies ) and Frederick ascends the throne and, before his father died he gave in to letting Frederick marry Lady Diana Spencer.

Frederick I (b.1707 r. 1731 d.1754) m. a) Lady Diana Spencer (b. 1710 m. 1730 d. 1754)

1a) George Frederick, Prince of Wales (1732- 1802)
2a) Diana Frederica, Princes Royal (1733- 1827) m. Charles, Grand Duke of Baden
3a) Sarah Eleanor (1735- 1783) m. Charles, Duke of Brunswick
4a) Elizabeth Sophia (1738- 1801) m. Adolphous Frederick IV, Duke of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
5a) Anne Charlotte (1739- 1742)
6a) Louisa Anne (1741- 1765)
7a) Edward Charles, Duke of York (1742)
8a) Caroline Frances (1744- 1754)
9a) Matilda Caroline (1747- 1806) m. Christian VII of Denmark
10a) William Henry, Duke of York (1749- 1751)
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George III (b. 1732 r. 1754 d. 1802) m. a) Margravine Elizabeth Frederica Sophie of Brandenburg-Bayreuth (b. 1732 m. 1755 d. 1760) b) Ernestine Sophie of Saxe-Weimar (b. 1740 m. 1762 d. 1767) (twin of Ernestine Auguste)

1a) George Frederick, Prince of Wales (1756- 1834)
2a) Frederick William, Duke of York (1757- 1760)
3a) Diana Elizabeth (1760 - 1822) m. Frederick I of Wurttemberg
4b) Sophie Charlotte (1767- 1839) m. Frederick, Duke of Saxe Altenburg​

George IV (b. 1756 r. 1802 d.1834) m. a) Louise of Hesse-Darmstadt (b. 1757 m. 1775 d. 1843)
1a) George Louis, Prince of Wales (1780- 1804)

George Louis, Prince of Wales (1780-1804) m. a) Eleanora of Denmark (b. 1783 m. 1801 d. 1841)

1a) Louise Eleanora of Wales (1802- 1804)
2a) Elizabeth Mary of Wales (1803)
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Diana (b. 1760 r. 1802 d. 1822) m. Frederick I of Wurttemberg (b.1754 m. 1780 d. 1816

1a) William George, Prince of Wales (1781- 1845)
2a) Elizabeth Sophia, Princess Royal (1784- 1871) m. Ernest, King of Hanover (descendent of William, Duke of Cumberland)
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William IV (b.1781 r. 1822 d.1845) m. a) Augusta of Prussia (b. 1780 m. 1799 d. 1801) b) Elena Petrovna (b. 1784 m. 1804 d.1812)

1a) Diana Augusta, Princess Royal (1801 - 1889) m. Augustus, Grand Duke of Mecklenburg Schwerin
2b) Frederick Peter, Prince of Wales (1806- 1894)
3b) Helena Georgina (1808- 1869) m. Grand Duke Carl of Hesse
4b) Catherine Wilhelmina (1812- 1817)
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Frederick II (b.1806 r.1845 d. 1894) m. a) Charlotte of Denmark (b.1807 m. 1827 d.1832) b) Princess Wilhelmina of the Netherlands (b.1818 m.1836 d.1905)

1a) Charlotte Diana, Princess Royal (1832- 1898) m. Tsar Mikhail II of Russia
2b) Frederick William, Prince of Wales (1837- 1838)
3b) William George, Prince of Wales (1839- 1847)
4b) George William, Prince of Wales (1841- 1869)
5b) Elena Anne (1844- 1906) m. King Christian IX of Denmark
6b) John Frederick, Duke of York (1846- 1933) m. Louise of Saxe-Coburg and Saafield
7b) Henry Augustus, Duke of Gloucester (1847- 1890) m. Elizabeth of Hanover
8b) Edward Charles, Duke of Clarence (1850- 1900) m. Margaretha of Saxe Meinegin
9b) Augustus Peter, Duke of Kent (1852- 1856)
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George, Prince of Wales (1841-1869) m. Sophia of Greece (b. 1842 m. 1865 d.1867)

1a) Frederick George of Wales (1867)
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John II (b.1846 r. 1894 d.1933) m. Louise of Saxe-Coburg Saafield (b. 1848 m. 1871 d. 1879)

1a) Louise Wilhelmina (1879- 1964)
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Louise (b.1879 r.1933 d. 1964) m. a) Alexander, Duke of Gloucester (b. 1875 m. 1899 d. 1943)

1a) Louise Elizabeth, Princess Royal (1901- 1960)
2a) Elizabeth Diana (1903-1904)
3a) John Henry of Gloucester (1907)
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Louise, Princess Royal (1901-1960) m. a) David, Duke of Leeds (b. 1900 m. 1921 d.1930)

1a) Louise Matilda (1923- 1972) m. James, Duke of Bucclech
2a) Diana Margaret (1925- 1985) m. Edward, Duke of Marlborough
3a) Sarah Maude (1928- 2027) m. Duncan, Earl of Strathmore (raised to a dukedom)
4a) Alexander John (1930- 1965)
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Alexander IV (b.1930 r.1964 d.1965) m. a) Lady Emily Hamilton (b.1934 m. 1957 d. 2016)

1a) Mary Louise (1958- 2043) m. Geoffrey Winston
2a) Henry David (1960- 2048)
3a) Anne Emily (1962- 2040) m. Christopher Daniels
4a) Elizabeth Diana (1964- 2028) m. Oliver Vaughn
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Henry IX (b.1960 r.1965 d. 2048) m. a) Daphne Prescott (b. 1962 m. 1990 d. 2043)

1a) Diana Emily, Princess of Wales (1992- 2073)
2a) Alexander George (1995- 2066)
3a) Sophia Louise (1997- 2080)​

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[JonasResende]

Simeon II, Tsar of all the Russias [1598-1616], Grand Prince of Tver [1576-1585], Grand Prince of Rus [1575-1576] (1545-1616) m: 1575 Anastasia Ivanovna Mstislavskaya (-1607)

Feodor (1576-1580)

Eudoxia (b.1578)

Dmitri (1580-1580)

Ivan, Tsarevich of all the Russias (1581-1604) 1m: 1597 Maria of Oldenburg (1580-1597); 2m: 1599 Maria Vasiliëvna Barbaszyn (d.1633)​

[1m.] Ivan V, Tsar of all the Russias [from 1616] (b.1597) 1m: 1616 Maria Ivanovna Khlopova (d.1624); 2m: 1624 Anna Borisovna Sheremeteva (d.1654)​

[2m.] Simeon, Tsarevich of all the Russias (b.1626)​

[2m.] Anna (b.1628)​

[2m.] Alexei (b.1631)​

[2m.] Maria (1632-1638)​

[2m.] Dmitri (b.1634) [twin of Boris]​

[2m.] Boris (b.1634) [twin of Dmitri]​

[2m.] Anna (b.1600)​

[2m.] Vasili (b.1602) m: 1624 Marfa Vladimirovna Dolgorukova (d.1634)​

[2m.] Vladimir (b.1625)​

[2m.] Maria (b.1627)

[2m.] Ivan (1628-1638)

[2m.] Elizabeth (b.1631)

[2m.] Margarita (1635-1638)​

[2m.] Elena (b.1605)​

Maria (b.1583)

Anastasia (b.1587) m: 1605 Mikhail Vasilievich, Prince Skopin-Shiuski (b.1586)​

Vasili (b.1610, d.1615)​

Anna (b.1611)

Simeon, Prince Skopin-Shiuski (b.1612)​

Inspired by this thread where Simeon Bekbulatovich becomes tsar following the death of Tsar Feodor (so no Godunov/Time of Troubles crap - or at least, less of it). I wed Simeon [II]'s son to Maria of Oldenburg - not so much because it's a foreign bride in Russia (that factored into it too), but also she's the last descendant of Ivan III and Sophia Palaiologina. Ivan III is her and her husband's closest common ancestor, so that gets around the cousin thing. However, I do also think that where Boris Godunov had Maria Vladimirovna (and her daughter) stuffed in a convent because of their possible rival claim, Simeon might not be so paranoid and instead see it as a good thing to marry Maria of Oldenburg and Ivan Simeonovich (both as a way of emphasizing the continuity with the Ruriks as well as tying up a loose end).

TBH, I don't know much about which families were considered good enough to provide a tsarina, so I sort of went with OTL candidates, or close to it (Maria Vasilievna Barbaszyna was the stepmother of Mikhail Feodorovich's Dolgorukov wife), while Khlopova was his OTL choice for a wife but his mommy told him hell no.

@alexmilman, @Valena: feel free to criticize and pull it apart

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[FalconHonour]

I am so tempted to do a 'If Elizabeth I married Robert Dudley' one, but it needs more thought yet. Keep your eyes peeled...

Well, I'm not saying it's any good - family trees aren't my specialty and finding suitable matches for OTL Victorian era, Protestant heirs who aren't German and therefore won't necessarily marry their cousins is hard! I just tried to go for matches between royalty of a similar age, so if any don't make sense, just accept that they're ATL versions of their OTL Counterparts! But as Promised:

Elizabeth Tudor, Queen of England and Duchess of Pembroke (r. 1553 - 1589) = Robert Dudley, Duke of Pembroke jure uxoris (1550) [1]

Children =

1) Katherine (1551)

2) Anne (1552)

3) Edward, Prince of Wales (1554 - 1562)

4) Miscarriage (1555)

5) Robert Duke of York and Pembroke (1556) later Prince of Wales

6) Stillborn boy (1558)

7) Miscarriage

8) Mary (1561)

9) Stillborn girl (1562)[2]

Robert I (b. 1556) r. 1589 – 1625= Lady Margaret Stuart (b. 1553), daughter of the Earl of Lennox, in 1570 [3]

Children =

1) Henry (1572-1575)

2) Elizabeth (1574)

3) Margaret (1576)

4) Robert, Prince of Wales (1578 – 1612)

5) Henry (1579 – 1581)

6) Charles (1582 – 1586)

7) Annabella (1583)

8) Miscarriage (1586)

9) Edward, Duke of York (1588)

Robert Prince of Wales dies before his father, but leaves children… married Augusta of Denmark in 1596

Children =

1) Frederick (b.1600)

2) Annabella (1603)

3) Robert (1605)

4) Sophia (1607)

5) Stillborn girl (1609)

6) William (1611)

Frederick I (r. 1625 – 1666) = Elizabeth of Scotland [4] (b.1596) in 1613

Children =

1) Stillborn girl (1615)

2) Miscarriage (1616)

3) Frederick (1617-1619)

4) Miscarriage (1619)

5) Stillborn boy (1620)

6) Elizabeth Augusta (1622)

7) Charles (1623-1629)

8) Miscarriage (1624)

9) James (1627-1631)

10) Katherine (1630-1631)

11) Stillborn girl (1633)

Elizabeth II (r.1666-1685) = William, Prince of Orange (1626-1650) in 1641

Children =

1) William Henry, Prince of Wales and Orange (1643)

2) Elizabeth Louisa (1645)

3) Charlotte Amalia (1647)

4) Robert Edward, Duke of Pembroke (1649)

5) Katherine Augusta (1650)

6) Henrietta Anne (1651) (posthumous for her father)

William III r. 1685 – 1701) = Christina of Sweden [5] in 1669

Children =

1) Charles Edward, Prince of Wales and Orange (1670)

2) Henry Frederick, Duke of Clarence (1671)

3) Miscarriage (1672)

4) Christina Charlotte (1675)

5) Annabella Elizabeth (1677)

6) Miscarriage (1679)

7) George Robert (1681-1684)

8) Sophia Louisa (1684)

Charles I (r.1701-1745) = Sophia Charlotte of Hanover (b.1668) in 1684

Children =

1) Frederick William, Prince of Wales and Orange (b.1685)

2) Louisa Charlotte (1687-1692)

3) Stillborn girl (1690)

4) Christina Margaret (1694)

5) Miscarriage (1697)

6) Miscarriage (1698)

Frederick II (r.1745-1750) = Marie Louise of Hesse-Kassel (b.1688) in 1709

Children =

1) Henrietta Maria (b. 1710)

2) Louisa Margaret (1712)

3) Katherine Elizabeth (1714)

4) Miscarriage (1715)

5) William George, Prince of Wales and Orange (1716)

6) Stillborn girl (1718)

7) Miscarriage (1721)

8) Anne Augusta (1723-1728)

9) Charles Frederick (1724-1726)

10) Stillborn boy (1728)

William IV (1750 – 1793) = Lady Diana Russell (b. 1710) in 1734 [6]
Children =

1) Diana Sarah Elizabeth, Princess of Wales and Orange (b.1735) [7]

Diana (r.1793 -1821) = Augustus Ferdinand of Prussia (b.1730) in 1755

Children =

1) Sarah Augusta (1759)

2) Edward Henry (1761-1763)

3) Sophia Elizabeth (1764)

4) Edward Robert, Prince of Wales and Orange (1767)

5) Charles William, Duke of Pembroke and Amsterdam (1769)

6) Margaret Grace (1773)

Edward VII (r.1821-1840) = Louisa Augusta of Denmark (b.1771) in 1786

Children =

1) Robert Christian (1789-1800)

2) Elizabeth Diana (1790-1791)

3) Katherine Annabella (1791)

4) Miscarriage (1792)

5) Charles Edward (1795-1837)

6) Louisa Mary (1798)

7) Miscarriage (1800)

8) Augusta Charlotte (1801)

9) Miscarriage (1803)

10) Stillborn girl (1805)

Prince Charles Edward = Lady Jane Montagu in 1815 [8]

Children =

1) Georgiana Henrietta (1819)

2) Louisa Jane (1822)

3) Christina Caroline (1824)

4) Stillborn boy (1825)

5) Miscarriage (1827)

6) Edward William (1829)

7) Miscarriage (1831)

Edward VIII (r.1840 – 1910) = Louise of Prussia (b.1838) in 1854

Children =

1) William Charles, Prince of Wales and Orange (1857)

2) Miscarriage (1859)

3) Louisa Georgiana (1862)

4) Henry David, Duke of Pembroke and Amsterdam (1865)

William V (r.1910 – 1916) = Emma of Waldeck and Pyrmont (b.1858) [9] in 1877

Children =

1) Adelaide Henrietta, Princess of Wales and Orange (1880)

2) Elizabeth Sophia (1882)

3) Helena Beatrice (1884)

Adelaide (r. 1916 -1920) = Carl of Denmark [10] in 1900

Children =

1) Charles David, Prince of Wales and Orange (1902)

2) Katherine Mary (1903)

3) Charlotte Augusta (1904)

4) Miscarriage (1906)

5) Stillborn girl (1920)[11]

Charles II (r.1920 – 1972) = Tatiana Romanov (b. 1897) in 1918 [12]

Children =

1) Alexander Edward, Prince of Wales and Orange (1919)

2) Olga Alexandra (1921)

3) Katherine Diana (1923)

4) William Nicholas (1924)

5) George Henry (1927)

6) Adelaide Louisa (1929)

7) Phillip Michael (1931)

8) Margaret Mary (1933)

Alexander (r.1972-2002) = Miss Kathleen Kennedy[13] in 1944

Children =

1) Katherine Victoria (1945)

2) Nicholas Peter, Prince of Wales and Orange (1946)

3) Tatiana Maria (1946)

4) Arthur Robert (1949)

Nicholas (r.2002-2011) = Lady Carina Fitzalan-Howard (b.1952) in 1971

Children =

1) Elizabeth Diana, Princess of Wales and Orange (1974)

2) Louisa Rosemary (1977)

3) Alexandra Victoria (1981)

Elizabeth III (r.2011 – present) = Andrew Ferguson (b.1978)[14] in 2000

Children =

1) George Robert, Prince of Wales and Orange (2004)

2) Alice Tatiana (2006)

3) Rachel Sarah (2009)














[1] Elizabeth marries Robert Dudley instead of Amy Robsart, Edward VI giving permission for their match in 1551. With a Tudor daughter-in-law, Northumberland never backs Jane Grey, but instead throws his efforts into persuading Edward to name Elizabeth heiress over Mary, which he does. Mary is imprisoned in 1553, Elizabeth ascends the throne with a husband at her side and two daughters. Mary later dies of stomach cancer as OTL, leaving Elizabeth unchallenged Queen.
[2] Elizabeth catches smallpox as OTL, as does the Prince of Wales. Prince Edward dies, Elizabeth survives, but is rendered infertile.
[3] Betrothed 1564. TTL, Margaret's marriage to the Duke of York is Elizabeth's price for allowing the Lennoxes to go home in 1564, thinking she'll bind them to her. Of course that rather backfires when Margaret's older brother catches the eye of Mary Queen of Scots.
[4] OTL’s Winter Queen, daughter of James VI. Yes, they are rather closely related, hence their fertility issues.
[5] ATL sister of Charles XI of Sweden (b. 1652)
[6]Granddaughter to Sarah Churchill, Duchess of Marlborough. Marriage is in secret – Diana is like her grandmother in character and has great influence over the 18-year-old Prince of Wales, who is six years her junior.
[7] William's only surviving child, from his unequal match to Lady Diana Russell. William is encouraged to marry again after Lady Diana's death, and does so, but none of his other children survive infancy, leaving Parliament with little choice but to accept Diana Sarah Elizabeth as his heiress.
[8] Eldest daughter of the Duke of Manchester. A love match permitted by the King and Queen to create joy following an ALT! Waterloo.
[9] OTL Queen of the Netherlands. Since the English have seized the lands of the Prince of Orange TTL, making her Queen of England instead seemed a suitable compromise.
[10] OTL Haakon of Norway. Let’s assume the union of Denmark and Norway limps on for a little longer in this TL.
[11] Adelaide dies in childbirth with her last child, an unexpected pregnancy, at the age of 40. The child, a girl, is dead upon birth.
[12] TTL the Romanov Grand Duchesses escape Russia in 1917 and find a haven with their distant cousins in England (One or other English Princess married a Russian Grand Duke… take your pick as to which, I never decided). Charles falls for Tatiana at first sight and proposes the following year.
[13] OTL Marchioness of Hartington. Not exactly an expected match, but she is the daughter of the American Ambassador to his father’s court, so at least they run in similar circles.
[14] Younger half-brother to OTL Sarah, Duchess of York. I couldn’t resist the irony. I would have picked a Spencer, had there been one of a suitable age…

 

[JonasResende]

1) Diana Sarah Elizabeth, Princess of Wales and Orange (b.1735) [7]

Diana (1793 -1821) = Augustus Ferdinand of Prussia (b.1730) in 1755

Is this a typo? Since how did she marry someone forty years before she was born? And how did England manage to hold on to the principality of Orange (and associate titles) so long? Sure, they're big landholders, but I'm guessing the Dutch would not be comfortable with a foreign monarch owning so much real estate. When the last prince of Orange (William III) in direct male descent from Willem the Silent died, they suspended the stadtholderate for a while. They'd done the same when he was born posthumously. Although it might remove the whole Anglo-Dutch rivalry.

And it's unlikely that someone (even the king's son) would be created "duke of Amsterdam". Amsterdam was part of the county of Holland IIRC, firstly, and second, AFAIK there were no titles of nobility created under the Dutch Republic (i.e. between the establisment of the Union of Utrecht and the French Revolution- even post Waterloo the idea never really cottoned on in the Netherlands AIUI. This was part of Anna Pavlovna (and Maximilian of Mexico's complaint) "the nobility rubbed shoulders with their tailors").

 

[FalconHonour]

Is this a typo? Since how did she marry someone forty years before she was born? And how did England manage to hold on to the principality of Orange (and associate titles) so long? Sure, they're big landholders, but I'm guessing the Dutch would not be comfortable with a foreign monarch owning so much real estate. When the last prince of Orange (William III) in direct male descent from Willem the Silent died, they suspended the stadtholderate for a while. They'd done the same when he was born posthumously. Although it might remove the whole Anglo-Dutch rivalry.

And it's unlikely that someone (even the king's son) would be created "duke of Amsterdam". Amsterdam was part of the county of Holland IIRC, firstly, and second, AFAIK there were no titles of nobility created under the Dutch Republic (i.e. between the establisment of the Union of Utrecht and the French Revolution- even post Waterloo the idea never really cottoned on in the Netherlands AIUI. This was part of Anna Pavlovna (and Maximilian of Mexico's complaint) "the nobility rubbed shoulders with their tailors").

You had me worried there, but it's not a typo. She was born in 1735, reigned 1793 onwards...

 

[FalconHonour]

You had me worried there, but it's not a typo. She was born in 1735, reigned 1793 onwards...

As for your second point, I take your point, but this is ATL. I guess in my head, the thing became a kind of United Kingdom straddling the North Sea after the Prince of Orange married into the English Royal Family, with the Prince of Orange title going to the heir as a courtesy title just as Wales does. The Dutch, in turn, adopted the English system of peerages, hence the creation of the Dukedom of Amsterdam...

 

[krieger]

Poland is still pretty underused in this thread, so let the fun begin (POD is Boleslaus II the Generous is never deposed)
Boleslaus II "the Generous" (b.1042, d.1081) m a)Viseslava Svatoslavovna of Rus
1a) Mieszko (1069-1109)
Mieszko III "the Wise" (1069-1109) m. a) Catherine Vsievolodovna of Rus
1a) Boleslaus (1090-1138)
2a) Mieszko (1095-1100)
3a) Otto (1100-1180) m. Salomea of Berg
4a) Catherine (1105-1165) m. Otto I of Salm (IV of Germany and Romans - ITTL his father's rebellion against Salians is succesful)
Boleslaus III "the Lavish" (a military genius, but not a skilled politician, a big fan of drinking and whoring) (1090-1138) m. a) Zbyslava Sviatopolkovna of Rus
1a) Judith "the Queen who Never Was" (1115-1185) m. a) Herman III of Salm b) Piotr Włostowic c) Igor II of Kiev (despite being only child of Boleslaus the Lavish and his beloved daughter, she never had succeeded her father - Boleslaus was unpopular among the nobility and the Prussian uprising was around - there was need of a male king, who would crush the Prussians once and for all and her scandalous personality also proved her not worthy to succeed the throne - she already gave birth to a bastard before her father's death)
Otto I "the Old" (a brother to a previous king, expected to be a pawn for nobility, he quickly proved himself as a skilfull and competent king, but unfortunately not skilled in military affairs) m. a) Salomea of Berg
1a) Lech/Leszek (1115-1125)
2a) Boleslaus (1120-1160)
3a) Vladislaus (1125-1190)
4a) Henry (1130-1195)
5a) Casimir (1131-1180)​

@Jan Olbracht

 

[JonasResende]

You had me worried there, but it's not a typo. She was born in 1735, reigned 1793 onwards...

Alright. Thanks for clearing all this up

 

[Kellan Sullivan]

Stuart Low Countries (Sort of)

Mary of Scots (b.1434, d.1465) x Willem van Borssele, Earl of Buchan, Count of Holland, Hainaut and Seeland (b. 1433)*

Stillborn Son (b.1446)
Charles, Count of Holland, Hainaut and Seeland (b.1448) x Marie, Duchess of Burgundy (b.1455)

Isabelle (b.1471) x 1485 Juan III, King of Castile (b.1466)**

Children​

Philippe, Duke of Burgundy, Count of Holland, Hainaut and Seeland (b.1472) x 1488 Anne of England (b.1475)

Marguerite (b.1490) m: Antoine II, Duke of Lorraine (b.1489)
Philippe, Comte de Charolais & Ostervant (b.1492, d.1541) x Eleonore of Austria (b.1498)***
Charlotte (b.1499, d.1543)
Anne (b.1504)​

Marguerite (b.1472) x 1489
Marie (b.1476) x 1492 Ludwig V, Elector Palatine of the Rhine (b.1478)

Children​

Jacqueline (b.1480, d.1535) x 1494 Filiberto II, Duke of Savoy (b.1480)

Children
​

*Son of Jacqueline of Bavaria, Countess of Holland, Hainaut and Seeland, and her 4e husband, Frans van Borsselen.
**Juan III, gender-flipped La Beltraneja
***Granddaughter of Emperor Maximilian (via his son, who is married to a daughter of surviving Ladislaus the Posthumous).

 

[mcdnab]

A British house of Wittlesbach
-----------------------------------------------
Charles II Elector Palatine
b1651 r 1680 d1685
m
1) 1671
Princess Wilhelmine Ernestine of Denmark
Divorced 1677
2) 1678
Elisabeth Henriëtte of Hesse-Kassel
b1661 d 1730
Charles III
Elector Palatine 1685
King of Great Britain 1714
b1681
r1685
d1726
m
1701
Princess Sophia Hedwig of Denmark
b1677 d1745
1) Charles Christian
Prince of Wales 1714
Later Charles IV of Great Britain r1726
b1703 d1782
m 1728
Princess Charlotte Amalie of Denmark
d1779
2) Elizabeth Sophia
b 1708 d1758
m1728
Frederick
later Elector of Hanover
b1707
Issue
3) Frederick Louis
Duke of York 1714
Regent of the Palatine from 1730
Elector Palatine as Frederick VIII in 1742
b1709 d1770
m 1744
Caroline Louise of Hesse-Darmstadt
b1723 d1790
Issue
Descendants of King Charles IV of Great Britain and Ireland
1) Anne Sophia b1730 d1790 cr Princess Royal m 1753 William V Prince of Orange
2) Charlotte Mary b 1732 d1794 m 1758 Frederick V of Denmark
3) Charles Edward Prince of Wales b1735
m 1) 1757 Anne dau of William IV of Orange d 1763 2) 1768 Wilhelmina of Prussia b 1750 d1820
4) Elizabeth Louise b 1737 d1808 m 1763 Frederick of Prussia
5) Henry George Duke of Cumberland b 1740 d1789 m 1768 Lady Anne Stanhope - had issue
6) William Frederick Duke of Gloucester b 1744 d 1790 m 1770 Lady Margaret Somerset - had issue
Charles Edward (King Charles V)
b1735 r 1780 d 1800
m 2) 1768
Wilhelmina of Prussia
b 1750 d1830
Issue:
1) William IV Henry b 1770 r1800 d1833 m 1800 Mary Amalia of Nassau daughter of the Prince of Orange b1781
issue:
a) (William) Edward VII b 1802 r 1833 d 1849 m Grand Duchess Alexandra Constantinovna of Russia b1801 d 1877
b) Charlotte Louise b 1805 d 1888 m 1826 Christian Prince of Denmark b 1789 d1844 - issue
2) Charles Frederick Duke of York b 1774 d1840 *m without royal consent in 1803 Jane Alton - had issue without royal title or succession rights. (Descendants used surname FitzCharles)
3) Elizabeth b 1777 d 1803 m 1799 George V Elector of Hanover
4) Louise b 1781 d1854
5) Sophia b1785 d 1857
Issue of King Edward VII
(William) Edward VII b 1802 r 1833 d 1849 m 1825 Grand Duchess Alexandra Constantinovna of Russia b1803 d 1877
1) Stillborn son 1828
2) Charles Prince of Wales b 1831 d1838
3) Alexander b 1833 d1834
4) Edward VIII b1840 r 1849 d 1905 m 1866 Princess Sofia Marie of Denmark b 1848 d1930
a) Charles VI b 1868 r 1905 d1929 m 1890 Mary only dau of the 3rd Duke of Gloucester b 1871 d 1955
b) Alexandra b 1871 d1959 m 1895 King Gustaf V of Sweden issue
c) George Duke of York b 1873 kd1899
d) Henry Duke of Kent b 1876 d 1961 m 1902 Princess Augusta of Prussia b 1880 - issue
e) Sophia b 1879 d1944 m 1901 Prince Adolphus of Hesse-Darmstadt issue
f) Anne b 1882 d1953 m 1908 Charles Duke of Grafton issue
5) Elizabeth b 1842 created Princess Royal 1844 d 1927 m 1865 Prince Frederick of the Palatine (created Duke of Clarence etc) issue
Issue of Charles VI of Great Britain and Ireland
1) Mary Louise b1892 d1977 m 1919 George I King of Greece issue
2) Helena b 1895 d1962 m 1922 Prince Alexander of The Netherlands issue
3) Margaret b 1898 d1973 m 1926 Richard Stanton Earl of Bentham issue
4) George I William b 1901 r 1929 d 1972 m 1924 Lady Elizabeth Spencer b 1903
5) Henry Duke of York b 1904 m 1930 Princess Beatrice of The Netherlands b 1906 issue
Issue of King George I
1) Mary III b 1926 r 1972 m 1950 Lord David Edward Wittlesbach (second son of the 6th Duke of Cumberland) b 1917 d2011 created Prince of Great Britain and Duke of Albany in 1950.
a) Charles Prince of Wales b1952 m 1982 Lady Catherine Manners dau of the Duke of Rutland b 1961 issue
a1) Prince George of Wales b 1985 m 2017 Elizabeth Hastings b 1986
a2) Princess Charlotte of Wales b1988
a3) Prince William of Wales b1993
b) Elizabeth b 1956 cr Princess Royal 1994 m1) 1981 Roger Hartman issue (*marriage dissolved 1997) issue m2) 1999 Sir Richard Cooper - no issue
c) Edward cr Duke of Gloucester b1963 m 1993 Angela Lyons b 1968 - issue (Mary b 1995, Edwina b 1999) * marriage dissolved 2004
d) Helena b 1965 unmarried.
NOTES:
Charles II's marriage to Wilhelmine of Denmark was not considered a success - his father concerned for the succession after six childless years managed to arrange a divorce. He promptly pushed his son into marriage with his cousin Elizabeth of Hesse-Kassel as an attempt to repair family relations and produce an heir.
The couple's only son was born in 1681 he under the influence of his mother married his first cousin Sophie Hedwig of Denmark in 1701. At the time of the marriage there was a suggestion that Charles III was a likely successor to the English throne - though he nominally came after the two elder daughter's of the late Henrietta of England (duchess of Orleans) and the dispossesed James II (and his son).
Charles made several attempts to travel to England between 1708 and his accession but his cousin Queen Anne consistantly refused to receive him or allow him to come. However she did under pressure permit the Electress Sophia and her young son visit England in 1708 shortly before the death of the Duke of Cumberland who was Sophia's uncle and the Queen was said to have shown the young prince great affection. The Electress would visit again in 1712 and was known to have received a number of prominent courtiers and politicians.
Charles III Elector Palatine duly became King of Great Britain in 1714 - however his accession was met with rebellion and support for the exluded son of James II. However with the Whigs in charge of Parliament and the failure of a rising in Scotland in 1715, Charles was able to establish his reign helped by the popularity of his wife. Charles III had some advantages he spoke English, though he had a strong accent. His early death led to his son's accession at just 20.
Charles IV's early reign was dominated by his mother Queen Sophia and it was she who engineered his marriage to his cousin Princess Charlotte Amalie of Denmark in 1728. His brother the Duke of York was despatched to Heidelburg in 1730 to act as regent for the Palatine. This was in line with his father's view that the Palatine should go to Frederick and his heirs though Charles IV was reluctant to abdicate believing his status as Elector gave him added international influence. However in 1742 he and the Duke of York came to a formal agreement and the King duly abdicated in favour of his brother (Frederick was forced to surrender his British titles though he continued to be styled as a Prince of Great Britain).
King Charles IV's daughter's were all married well and abroad - his eldest son the Prince of Wales married in 1757 Anne a daughter of William IV of Orange. She died in childbirth in 1763. He remarried Princess Wilhelmina of Prussia in 1767.
The King's younger son's married the daughter of British peers without their father's consent - King Charles was livid and refused to receive either his daughters in law. He persuaded the government to pass the Royal Marriages Act in 1774 to prevent such marital problems in the future. In 1776 the King celebrated his golden jubilee but his last years were dogged by revolution in Britain's american colonies.
Charles V reign saw Britain's American colonies given limited independence though in 1801 many of the colonies declared themselves to be an independent republic. William IV's attempts to force his government to war with the newly independent America met with little success as Parliament was weary of costly conflicts across the Atlantic. Charles V's eldest daughter married the Elector of Hanover but died in childbirth in 1803. The younger daughter's lived with their widowed mother and despite numerous marriage offers remained single.
The reactionary William IV marred Mary Amalia daughter of the Prince of Orange - the couple lived largely seperate lives after the birth of their second child. The Queen was known for her deep intelligence and love of court life while the King avoided the limelight and spent his time trying to prevent his government from moving forward with political reform.
His son would choose to be known as Edward VII instead of William V to distinguish himself from his father - his first act as King in 1833 was to support the Government's reform bill which expanded the franchise (his father had delayed signing the bill into law).
Edward VII and his Russian wife were popular and court life was described as "glittering" and a throw back to the previous century. However, some suggested the pace of the royal couple's life had a severe impact on their nursery.
The Queen first child was stillborn and her second two boys were both described as very sickly and died in their infancy. The death of the seven-year-old Prince of Wales in 1838 plunged his parents into grief and dimmed the court. There was deep concern that the Queen nearing 40 would not produce an heir and saw Parliament urge the King to invite his sister and her Danish husband to return to England as she was now once again heiress to the throne. Luckily the Queen fell pregnant again in 1840 delivering a healthy boy followed by a sister in 1842.
The King died suddenly in 1849 leaving his nine-year-old son as King Edward VIII. King Edward VIII's long reign (initially under the regency of his mother) saw the growth of industrial Britain, his much loved and very popular sister married a distant cousin but the couple made their lives in England (Prince Frederick would later serve as Governor General of Canada for a decade). The Prince of Wales would marry his distant cousin the Lady Mary dau and only child of the 3rd Duke of Gloucester. His brother the Duke of York died on active service in Africa.
The 20th Century would see the Royal Family marry commoners rather than foreign prince's. The popular King George I and his wife Queen Elizabeth presented a united front as the modern world saw many other monarch's deposed and exiled. The couple's only daughter succeeded her father as the first woman to wear the British crown since Queen Anne died in 1714. The Queen married her very distant cousin and the couple have four children. Her Majesty will celebrate her golden jubilee in 2022 - though since the death of her husband rumours she may abdicate in favour of her eldest son the Prince of Wales have been circulating.

 

[Jan Olbracht]

Crazy idea: Habsburg Sweden.

Religious views of Sigismund Vasa and his sistet Anna Vasa are flipped. He is Protestant, she is Catholic. Sigismund, without much problems, inherits Swedish throne. His sister marries Archduke Maximilian of Austria. Meanwhile Chancellor Zamoyski has some nasty accident during reign of Bathory, Anna Jagiellon, aunt of Sigismund and Anna Vasa, is now main kingmaker in PLC. Maximilian, being married to half-Jagiellon princess, won election. Sigismund in Sweden married Christina of Holstein, but they have no surviving children, thus, he decides to adopt one of his Habsburg nephews, younger son of Anna, who is not very religious, but really wants to be a king, thus able to switch confession if needed.

Maximilian I (1558-1607) m. 1586 Anna Vasa (1568-1625)
1) Sigismund III (1589-1667) King of Poland 1608-1667 m a) 1609 Magdalene of Bavaria (1587-1628) b) 1637 Maria Anna of Austria (1610-1665)

1a) Sigismund (1611-1634)
2a) Maximilian (1614-1634)
3a) Alexander II (1618-1675) King of Poland 1667-1675
4b) Vladislaus (1639-1644)
5b) Anna Catherina Maximiliana (1641-1696)
6b) Sigismund IV (1644-1708) King of Poland 1675-1708​

2) Vladislaus (1594-1598)
3) Catherine (1596-1598)
4) Vladislaus (1600-1601)
5) Anna Catherine (1603-1661) m. 1620 Ferdinand II (1578-1637) Holy Roman Emperor
6) Maximilian I (1606-1659) King of Sweden 1632-1659 m. 1634 Catherine of Denmark* (1614-1680)

1) Sigismund II Gustav (1636-1696) King of Sweden 1659-1696
​

*Anne Catherine, Queen of Denmark, lives longer and have one more daughter with Christian IV

 

[WillVictoria]

What if Elizabeth of Clarence survives

Elizabeth II (b. 1820 r. 1837 d. 1904) m. Henry, Prince of the Netherlands (b. 1820 m. 1840 d. 1883)

1a) Elizabeth, the Princess Royal (1842 - 1929) m. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia
2a) Princess Adelaide (1842 - 1886) m. Frederick III of Prussia
3a) Princess Anne (1845 - 1933) m. Grand Duke Louis IV of Hesse
4a) Princess Charlotte (1848 - 1903) m. Frederick VIII of Denmark
5a) Henry, Prince of Wales (1850- 1926)
6a) Princess Louise (1851 - 1934) m. King Ernest Augustus II of Hanover
7a) Princess Wilhelmine (1852 - 1938) m. Carl XVI Oscar of Sweden
8a) Princess Sophia (1854 - 1899) m. Adolphus Frederick V of Mecklenberg Strelitz
9a) Princess Mary (1855 - 1945) m. Berhard III of Saxe Meinengen
10a) William, Duke of York (1856 - 1919) m. Marie of Waldeck Pyrmont
11a) George, Duke of Clarence (1858 - 1919) m. Louise of Schleswig Holstein
12a) Paul, Duke of Edinburgh later King of the Netherlands (1863 - 1911) m. Elise of Hohenhoe Langenburg
​

==========================UK Line=================================================================

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Henry IX of the UK (b. 1850 r. 1904 d. 1926) m. Pauline of Saxe Weimar Eisenach (b. 1852 m. 1873 d. 1925)

1a) Prince Henry of Wales (1879 - 1882)
2a) Prince George of Wales (1884)
3a) William, Prince of Wales (1891 - 1978)
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William V (b. 1891 r. 1926 d.1978) m. Hilda of Baden (b.1892 m.1912 d.1971)

1a) Henry, Prince of Wales (1917 - 1970)
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Henry, Prince of Wales m. Lady Jane Spencer (b. 1920 m. 1945 d. 2014)

1a) William of Wales (1947 - 2034)
2a) Princess Hilda of Wales (1950 - 2049) m. James Horwick
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William VI (b. 1947 r. 1978 d. 2034) m. Lady Adeline Seymour (b. 1952 m. 1975 d.2047)

1a) Elizabeth, Princess of Wales (1980 - 2049)
2a) Henry, Duke of Albany (1982 -2034) m. Anna Vadas
3a) Jane (1985 - 2062) m. Cornelius van Hassel
4a) Mary (1987 - 2050) m. Boyd Knull
5a) Edward, Duke of Cambridge (1990 - 2059) m. Emma Skata
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Elizabeth, Princess of Wales m. Robert O'Rourbaugh (b.1978 m. 2010 d.2045)

1a) Alexander of Wales (2011 -)
2a) Adelaide of Wales (2013- )
3a) Arthur of Wales (2015-)
4a) Alfred of Wales (2017-)
5a) Anne of Wales (2020-)

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==========================Netherlands=================================================================
Paul I (b.1863 r.1890 d.1911) m. Elise of Hohenhoe Langenburg (b. 1864 m. 1884 d. 1929) [1]

1a) Elizabeth (1886 - 1935) m. Grand Duke Frederick Francis IV of Mecklenburg Schwerin
2a) Paul (1888 - 1892), Prince of Orange
3a) Leopoldine (1891 -1940) m. King Ulrich of Wuttemberg
4a) Henry (1892)
5a) Adelaide (1894 - 1959) m. King Nicholas of Greece
6a) William, Prince of Orange (1898- 1942)
7a) Anne (1898- 1988) m. Ferdinand II of Romania
8a) Ernest (1902 -1957) m. Grand Duchess Catherine of Russia
9a) Feodora (1903-1953) m. Berthold, Grand Duke of Baden
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William IV of the Netherlands (b. 1898 r.1911 d.1942) m. Marie of Weid (b 1901 m. 1921 d. 1956)

1a) William, Prince of Orange ( 1931 - 2005)
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William V (b. 1931 r. 1942 d. 2005) m. Princess Ida of Reuss (b. 1934 m. 1957 d. 1988)

1a) Paul, Prince of Orange (1958 - 2058)
2a) Henry (1960 -2014) m. Valeria Dickenson
3a) Charles (1963 - 2027) m. Michaela Gunther
4a) George (1968 - 2032) m. Aurelia Johannson
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Paul II (b. 1958 r. 2005 d. 2058) m. Ingrid Hummel (b. 1964 m. 1988 d.2010)

1a) William, Prince of Orange (1989 -)
2a) John (1992 -)
3a) Peter (1994 -)
4a) Ida (1997 -)

[1] let's assume William III and Alexander have no surviving offspring, the PoW declines the throne to avoid a personal union, the Duke of York is needed for the succession, and the Duke of Clarence only has one daughter, leaving Paul to the Dutch throne.​

 

[Jonathan]

We need more countries controlled by the Habsburg.

Working progress

Philip II of Spain (21/5/1527–13/9/1598) m. 1543, A) Maria Manuela of Portugal (15/10/1527–12/7/1545) m. 1554, B) Mary I (18/2/1516–17/11/1558) m, C) Infanta Catherine of Guimarães (18/1/1540–15/11/1614)

1A) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (8 July 1545 – 24 July 1568)
2B) Ferdinand I (8/4/1555-30/6/1621) m. 1573, Duchess Marie Eleonore of Cleves (16/6/1550–1/6/1608) [1]

1) Mary, Princess Royal (3/7/1574–30/8/1625) m.
2) Princess Catherine (23/1/1577–21/2/1649)
3) Ferdinand, Prince of Wales (1/6/1580–8/10/1593)
4) Princess (31/3/1582–4/12/1610) m. 1598, Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (9/7/1578–15/2/1637)

1) Archduchess Christine (25/5/1601–21/6/1601)
2) Archduke Charles (B & D. 25 May 1603)
3) Archduke John-Charles (1 November 1605–26 December 1619) Ferdinand III (13 July 1608 – 2 April 1657)​

Princess Eleanor (22/8/1583–31/3/1607)
William III (23/6/1585–18/1/16)
Princess (31/12/1586–22/2/1659)​

3C) Maria (1565–1567)
4C) Catherine (1566–1604)
5C) Prince Philip (1568–1630) m. Ana de Velasco y Téllez-Girón (1585 –7/11/1607)
6C) Charles (1569–1627)
7C) Cardinal John, Archbishop of Madrid (1572–1580)
8C) Joanna (1573–1576)
9C) Isabella (1578–1582)
10C) Manuel (1581–1608)
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[1] Eldest child of William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg and Maria of Austria, Granddaughter of Philip I of Castile, via his son, Ferdinand I. While her father was a Reform Catholic, Marie Eleonore, who was of a strong willed character, displayed firm Lutheran sympathies early on, her mother wanted her daughter to return to the faith and arranged her to marry a catholic relative.

Viceroy of the Iberian Kingdom [1]
1598-1630: Philip III [2]
1630-

Spoiler: Footnotes

[1] With the crowns of Portugal and Spain, along with their colonies under one imperial crown in England, Ferdinand named his half brother as head of the Government.
[2] Many believed Philip would form a coup to take his father’s crown under himself, rather than his English half brother, but instead respected the divine right he held.

Kings of England, Spain and Portugal, Governors of the Low Countries
1558-1571: Regency of Ferdinand I [1]
1571-1621: Ferdinand I [2]
1621-16: William III [3]

Spoiler: Footnotes

[1] The regency council, serving from three year olds Ferdinand succession until his 16th birthday, it was made of nobility and clergy, such as Edward Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings of Loughborough

 

[isabella]

We need more countries controlled by the Habsburg.

Working progress

Philip II of Spain (21/5/1527–13/9/1598) m. 1543, A) Maria Manuela of Portugal (15/10/1527–12/7/1545) m. 1554, B) Mary I (18/2/1516–17/11/1558) m, C) Infanta Catherine of Guimarães (18/1/1540–15/11/1614)

1A) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (8 July 1545 – 24 July 1568)
2B) Ferdinand I (8/4/1555-30/6/1621) m. 1573, Duchess Marie Eleonore of Cleves (16/6/1550–1/6/1608)

1) Mary, Princess Royal (3/7/1574–30/8/1625) m.
2) Princess Catherine (23/1/1577–21/2/1649)
3) Ferdinand, Prince of Wales (1/6/1580–8/10/1593)
4) Princess (31/3/1582–4/12/1610) m. 1598, Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (9/7/1578–15/2/1637)

1) Archduchess Christine (25/5/1601–21/6/1601)
2) Archduke Charles (B & D. 25 May 1603)
3) Archduke John-Charles (1 November 1605–26 December 1619) Ferdinand III (13 July 1608 – 2 April 1657)​

Princess Eleanor (22/8/1583–31/3/1607)

William III (23/6/1585–18/1/16)
Princess (31/12/1586–22/2/1659)​

3C) Maria of Braganza (1565–?)
4C) Seraphina of Braganza (1566–1604)
5C) Philip III of the Iberian Empire (1568–1630) m. Ana de Velasco y Téllez-Girón (1585 –7/11/1607)
6C) Charles of Braganza (1569–1627)
7C) Alexander of Braganza, Archbishop of Évora. Cherubina of Braganza (1572–1580)
8C) Angelica of Braganza (1573–1576).
9C) Isabella of Braganza (1578–1582)
10C) Philip (1581–1608)

Henry I of Scotland [2] (19/2/1594-6/11/1657)​

Eldest child of William, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg and Maria of Austria, Granddaughter of Philip I of Castile, via his son, Ferdinand I. While her father was a Reform Catholic, Marie Eleonore, who was of a strong willed character, displayed firm Lutheran sympathies early on, her mother wanted her daughter to return to the faith and arranged her to b
[2] While he was still Prince Henry Frederick, Duke of Rothesay.

Emperor of the Iberian Empire [1]
1598-1630: Philip III [2]
1630-

Spoiler: Footnotes

[1] Uniting the crowns of Portugal and Spain, along with their colonies under one imperial crown.
[2] Wanting to honour his father, Philip took the imperial numerical of the third.

Kings of England, Governors of the Low Countries
1558-1571: Regency of Ferdinand I [1]
1571-1621: Ferdinand I [2]
1621-16: William III [3]

Spoiler: Footnotes

[1] The regency council, serving from three year olds Ferdinand succession until his 16th birthday, it was made of nobility and clergy, such as Edward Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings of Loughborough

Pretty unlikely...
I will go for either:
a) a daughter by Mary married to a cousin from the Austrian branch as ruler of England&Burgundy but we have still the risk of having soon an union with Austria, Bohemia and Hungary
b) instead of the younger kids use the ATL children of Don Carlos and Elisabeth/Isabel of France (who are rightful and indisputable heirs of Spain and after the death of Sebastian also of Portugal).

A son of Philip and Mary would be heir of Spain before any half sibling born from a third wedding of his father so your division do not work and keeping Spain and England under different branches of Habsburg need a different division


Plus: for what reason you have called the children of Philip and Catherine Braganza? That was the title of her OTL husband so is not a surname who her ATL kids would have any reason for use...
And we have an high chance who Philip III will continue to use simply the stile King of Spain as union of Aragon, Castile and Portugal (as the name Spain before Ferdinand&Isabella was used for the whole peninsula and the HRE will likely react badly if his relative will start to call himself Emperor and the same for Rome)

 

[Kellan Sullivan]

Princess (31/3/1582–4/12/1610)

"Her Royal and Imperial Highness, the Infanta Princess of Spain, Archduchess of Austria!"

 

[mcdnab]

Pretty unlikely...
I will go for either:
a) a daughter by Mary married to a cousin from the Austrian branch as ruler of England&Burgundy but we have still the risk of having soon an union with Austria, Bohemia and Hungary
b) instead of the younger kids use the ATL children of Don Carlos and Elisabeth/Isabel of France (who are rightful and indisputable heirs of Spain and after the death of Sebastian also of Portugal).

A son of Philip and Mary would be heir of Spain before any half sibling born from a third wedding of his father so your division do not work and keeping Spain and England under different branches of Habsburg need a different division


Plus: for what reason you have called the children of Philip and Catherine Braganza? That was the title of her OTL husband so is not a surname who her ATL kids would have any reason for use...
And we have an high chance who Philip III will continue to use simply the stile King of Spain as union of Aragon, Castile and Portugal (as the name Spain before Ferdinand&Isabella was used for the whole peninsula and the HRE will likely react badly if his relative will start to call himself Emperor and the same for Rome)

As Isabella said - the marriage treaty of Mary Tudor confirmed that in the event of Charles of Austria (Carlos) dying then Mary and Philip's children would inherit according to the law.

However we know that Charles V did intend to split his vast empire on his death rather than leave everything to his own heir Philip.
His brother would inherit Austria, Philip's eldest son would get Spain and the Hapsburg possessions in Italy and the Americas, while Philip and Mary's issue would receive England and the Burgundian lands. Charles V believed that would result in the full encirclement and curtailment of French ambition (would follows the natural lines for trade etc) and would guarantee ocean access to the Americas and effectively would make the enormous amalgamation of countries and provinces (each with their own rules of government etc) more easily managed by breaking it up.
So it is possible that Philip once he had a male heir by a third wife would announce plans to split his own vast inheritance - his son the King of England gaining the Hapsburg Burgundian possessions while the younger was given Spain, the Italian holdings etc - this time perhaps the Spanish Americas would be split (especially once Portugal and its colonies were added) between the English King and his Spanish half-brother.