VVD0D95
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Yea indeed and this time she’d likely survive, as from what little I know English doctors were a tad better than Spanish ones for pregnancy aha
List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II
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Charles III m. Archduchess Michaela of Austria b. 1954[1](a)
William, Prince of Wales b. 1981
Otto b. 1982
Henry b. 1986
1. She converts to Anglicanism from Catholicism, Habsburg-Lorraines are close relations of the Jacobite Succession.
William, Prince of Wales b. 1981
Otto b. 1982
Henry b. 1986
1. She converts to Anglicanism from Catholicism, Habsburg-Lorraines are close relations of the Jacobite Succession.
Portugal (1585-1730)
King João IV of Portugal (1562-1638) >< Isabelle of Burgundy (1566-1633)
King João IV of Portugal (1562-1638) >< Isabelle of Burgundy (1566-1633)
A1. Leonor of Portugal (1585-1651)
A2. Duarte of Portugal (1586-1592)
A3. Maria of Portugal (1590-1634)
A4. King Afonso VIII of Portugal (1592-1656) >< a. Adelaide of Jülich (1594-1624) b. Mary of England (1605-1657)
B1a. Isabel of Portugal (1613-1618)
B2a. Catarina of Portugal (1615-1626)
B3a. Adelaide of Portugal (1616-1662) >< Hendrik II, Count of Holland (1609-1673)
B4a. Duarte of Portugal (1618-1620)
B5a. Guilherme of Portugal (1619)
B6a. Afonso of Portugal (1621-1624)
B7b. Maria of Portugal (1626-1646) >< Pedro of Spain (1624-1645)
B8b. João of Portugal (1629-1651) >< Joana of Spain (1627-1701)
C1. Afonso of Portugal (1650)
B9b. Beatriz of Portugal (1632-1633)
B10b. King Pedro II of Portugal (1635-1695) >< a. Maria de Castro (1636-1657) b. Violante of Sicily (1643-1714)
C1b. Maria of Portugal (1661-1699) >< King Edgar IV of England (1648-1716)
C2b. King Afonso IX of Portugal (1663-1732) >< Sophia of the Palatinate (1666-1719)
D1. Afonso of Portugal (1688)
D2. King Duarte III of Portugal (1689-1750)
D3. King Francisco of Uruguay (1691-1742) >< Mariana da Silveira (c. 1705-1755)
E1. Pedro of Avis (1724-1741)
E2. João, Viscount of Olinda (1726-1780)
D4. Francisca of Portugal (1694)
D5. Archbishop João XI of Lisboa (1695-1757)
D6. Teresa of Portugal (1696-1704)
D7. Viceroy Pedro I of Brazil (1697-1766) >< Mencia Suárez de Figueroa (1701-1761)
D8. Sofia of Portugal (1699-1736)
D9. Fernando of Portugal (1700-1702)
D10. Dinis of Portugal (1702-1708)
C3b. João of Portugal (1664-1665)
C4b. Duke Pedro of Viseu (1665-1703) >< Isabel Pereira de Melo (1672-1699)
C5b. Felipe of Portugal (1667)
C6b. Francisca of Portugal (1669-1722)
C7b. Iolanda of Portugal (1672-1675)
C8b. Leonor of Portugal (1674-1708)
C9b. Margarida of Portugal (1676-1700)
C10b. Duarte, Duke of Guarda (1677-1731) >< Elvira of Bragança (1681-1729)
D. Dukes of Guarda
C11b. Teresa of Portugal (1678-1728)
C12b. Dinis, Duke of Guimarães (1680-1747) >< Maria Teresa de Sousa (1692-1747)
D. Dukes of Guimarães
C13b. Maria of Portugal (1682)
C14b. Manuel of Portugal (1683-1684)
A5. Felipe of Portugal (1595)
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classyjackie
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Rose did come around before Billy died and said in a letter that she can't wait to see them both in Boston. In OTL another daughter married Peter Lawford who was an British-American Protestant who also descends from English aristocracy, Rose didn't seem to have a problem at all so I think she would've gotten over it very quickly if her granddaughter had a chance to become Queen.
Interesting enough also in OTL a granddaughter of RFK dated a British Royal Family member not so long ago, so your ALT isn't at all not realistic lol.
I had no idea about that letter (and Rose’s well know comment about Joe jr and Billy’s death made me believe who she had not accepted Kick‘s marriage) and Patricia‘s marriage surely had no implication in conversion or raising Protestant kids (who were the problem with Kick and Billy as we can be quite sure who while she could keep her religion all their kids would be raised Anglicans)
Another tree (WIP as usual)
Isabella Clara Eugenia, Sovereign of the Netherlands (b. 1566) married Albert III, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1559) in 1599
Philip III of Spain (b. 1578) married Margaret of Inner-Austria (b. 1584) in 1599
Isabella Clara Eugenia, Sovereign of the Netherlands (b. 1566) married Albert III, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1559) in 1599
- Maximilian III, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1602) married Anna Maria Mauricia of Spain (b. 1601)
- Albert Ernest, Count of Tyrol (b. 1604) married ?
- Elizabeth (b. 1605) married Charles I, King of England (b. 1600)
- Anna (b. 1607) married ?
Philip III of Spain (b. 1578) married Margaret of Inner-Austria (b. 1584) in 1599
- Anna Maria Mauricia (b. 1601) married Maximilian III, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1602)
- Maria (1603)
- Philip IV, King of Spain (b. 1605) married Elizabeth of France (b. 1602)
- Maria Anna (b. 1606) married Louis XIII, King of France (b. 1601)
- Charles (1607-1632)
- Ferdinand (b. 1609), Cardinal
- Margaret (1610-1617)
- Alphonse Maurice (1611-1612)
- Louis XIII, King of France (b. 1601) married Maria Anna of Austria-Spain (b. 1606)
- Elizabeth (b. 1602) married Philip IV, King of Spain (b. 1605)
- Christine Marie (b. 1606) married Victor Amadeus I, Duke of Savoy (b. 1587)
- Nicholas Henry, Duke d’Orleans (1607-1611)
- Gaston John Baptist, Duke of Orleans (previously Anjou) (b. 1608) married Marie, Duchess of Montpensier (b. 1605)
- Henrietta Maria (b. 1609) married Nicholas II, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1608) *
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Not sure. I missed thrice Albert II searching for the right numeral as he is not in the lists of the German Kings and we have precedents for King of Romans NOT being counted in the Imperial numeration
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Which list? And if so he’d be Albert the first, as none of the previous Alberts were crowned emperors.
The list of the kings of Germany… but looks like I have missed him (and I checked thrice)… so Albert III is (as Rudolf was Rudolf II when Rudolf I was likewise an Habsburg who was only King of Germany but effectively ruled alone)
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Bit of a weird idea (namely that Sigismund der Munzreiche of Austria has an heir):
Sigmund, Archduke of Austria (1427-1496) m: 1449 Eleanor of Scotland (1427-1480)
[1] Sigmund and Eleanor’s rumoured OTL son, just born a decade earlier (at a more plausible date for his mom)
[2] Sigmund’s OTL second wife
[3] OTL he proposed to Maximilian’s niece, Sidonie of Bavaria
[4] OTL wife of Johann Friedrich of Saxony. Her husband becomes duke of Cleves after her brother is KIA. There apparently was some sort of "mutual inheritance" treaty in place OTL as well
[5] Named Mary of Burgundy (who avoids her fall from a horse, but is unable to have further children after Archduke Franz in 1481)
[6] Figure with a “niece” of age when Vlad starts hunting for a third wife, Max is able to push her. Katharina of Saxony being Georg the Bearded of Saxony’s sister, and George of Podiebrady’s granddaughter perhaps helps her suit
[7] Another election promise that Karl V was “tardy” on making good on. He promised Friedrich II of the Palatinate an archduchess OTL if the Pfalz vote would go for him. Friedrich persuaded his brother, Ludwig V, to vote for Karl, but then found out that the new emperor had promised Eleanor to Portugal. Karl V tried to persuade the widowed Marie (Queen of Hungary) to marry Friedrich, but she refused. And so Friedrich had to wait until Dorothea of Denmark was available. Here, Karl V likewise promises an archduchess (but fails to specify “which” one). TTL Maria, Queen of Hungary, is conveniently available, and Ludwig V’s wife dies in 1519, so the match is arranged. Istvan VI’s “price” for voting for Karl is that he ensure that his mother is “provided for” (really it's because there've been rumours that the Queen Dowager intends to remarry to Georg of Ansbach, on the lookout for his second wife at this point in time)
[8] This was around the time that Friedrich III ‘the Wise’ proposed to be Margarethe of Austria’s third husband OTL
[9] Named for the recently deceased Sophie of Mecklenburg
[10] Son of Georg the Bearded. Johann’s OTL wife (Elisabeth of Hesse) marries Johann Friedrich I of Saxony instead
[11] Fernando of Aragon dies first and gets his namesake grandson to succeed him and marry Isabel of Portugal. Karl refuses a match with Maria and Vladislaus’ daughter (so he can marry Mary Tudor), and needs someone he trusts as "regent" to manage Austrian affairs while he's off in Burgundy/Burgundian affairs while he's in Austria.
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Sigmund, Archduke of Austria (1427-1496) m: 1449 Eleanor of Scotland (1427-1480)
Sigmund, Archduke of Austria (1484-1490)
Eleonore (1485-1532) m: 1499 Karl II[3], Duke of Guelders (1467-1538)
Karl III, Duke of Guelders [from 1538], Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg [from 1542] (b.1506) m: 1525 Sibylle of Cleves[4] (b.1512)
Anna (1508-1515)
Katharina (1509-1513)
Reinier (b.1512)
Maria[5] (1586-1540) 1m: 1500 Vladislaus II[6], King of Hungary & Bohemia (1456-1516); 2m: 1520[7] Ludwig V, Elector Palatine of the Rhine (1478-1544)
[1m.] Istvan VI, King of Hungary & Bohemia (b.1503) m: 1520 Maria of Austria (b.1505)
[1m.] Elisabeth (b.1505) m: ?
[1m.] Katalin (b.1506) m: ?
Katharina (1488-1503) m: 1501[8] Friedrich III, Elector of Saxony (1463-1525)
Maximilian (1489)
Georg, Archduke of Austria (1492-1545) m: 1518[11] Eleonore of Austria (b.1498)
Children?
[1] Sigmund and Eleanor’s rumoured OTL son, just born a decade earlier (at a more plausible date for his mom)
[2] Sigmund’s OTL second wife
[3] OTL he proposed to Maximilian’s niece, Sidonie of Bavaria
[4] OTL wife of Johann Friedrich of Saxony. Her husband becomes duke of Cleves after her brother is KIA. There apparently was some sort of "mutual inheritance" treaty in place OTL as well
[5] Named Mary of Burgundy (who avoids her fall from a horse, but is unable to have further children after Archduke Franz in 1481)
[6] Figure with a “niece” of age when Vlad starts hunting for a third wife, Max is able to push her. Katharina of Saxony being Georg the Bearded of Saxony’s sister, and George of Podiebrady’s granddaughter perhaps helps her suit
[7] Another election promise that Karl V was “tardy” on making good on. He promised Friedrich II of the Palatinate an archduchess OTL if the Pfalz vote would go for him. Friedrich persuaded his brother, Ludwig V, to vote for Karl, but then found out that the new emperor had promised Eleanor to Portugal. Karl V tried to persuade the widowed Marie (Queen of Hungary) to marry Friedrich, but she refused. And so Friedrich had to wait until Dorothea of Denmark was available. Here, Karl V likewise promises an archduchess (but fails to specify “which” one). TTL Maria, Queen of Hungary, is conveniently available, and Ludwig V’s wife dies in 1519, so the match is arranged. Istvan VI’s “price” for voting for Karl is that he ensure that his mother is “provided for” (really it's because there've been rumours that the Queen Dowager intends to remarry to Georg of Ansbach, on the lookout for his second wife at this point in time)
[8] This was around the time that Friedrich III ‘the Wise’ proposed to be Margarethe of Austria’s third husband OTL
[9] Named for the recently deceased Sophie of Mecklenburg
[10] Son of Georg the Bearded. Johann’s OTL wife (Elisabeth of Hesse) marries Johann Friedrich I of Saxony instead
[11] Fernando of Aragon dies first and gets his namesake grandson to succeed him and marry Isabel of Portugal. Karl refuses a match with Maria and Vladislaus’ daughter (so he can marry Mary Tudor), and needs someone he trusts as "regent" to manage Austrian affairs while he's off in Burgundy/Burgundian affairs while he's in Austria.
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Nice tree. Only I doubt who in OTL Friedrich could have believed to get Eleanor who was married in Portugal almost a year before the election (and 6 months before Maximilian’s death).
I'm not sure if it was for the imperial election or some other matter after Eleonore was widowed
Frederick III (1415-1493) Holy Roman Emperor, m. Eleanor of Portugal (1434-1467)
1) Christopher (1455-1482) m. Mary of Burgundy (1457-1509)
2) Maximilian (1459-1490)
3) Helene (1460-1512) m. Frederick III (1463-1525) Elector of Saxony
4) Kunigunde (1465-1520) m. Casimir V (1458-1508) King of Poland [2]
5) John (1467-1529) Holy Roman Emperor, m. a) Bianca Maria Sforza (1472-1510), b) Catherine of Palatinate (1499-1526)
[2] Surviving Saint Casimir.
[3] Children of Vladislaus Jagiellon, who ITTL is only King of Bohemia while his brother John Albert rules Hungary.
[4] Daughter of [1]
1) Christopher (1455-1482) m. Mary of Burgundy (1457-1509)
1) Philip IV (1478-1519) Duke of Burgundy, m. a) Anne of England (1475-1511), b) Isabella of Lorraine (1494-1540)
2) Charles (1480-1488)
2) Maximilian (1459-1490)
3) Helene (1460-1512) m. Frederick III (1463-1525) Elector of Saxony
1) Christina (1485-1543) m. Wolfgang (1482-1516) Duke of Bavaria-Landshut [1]
2) Ernest (1487-1490)
3) Frederick IV (1488-1545) Elector of Saxony, m. a) Ursula of Brandenburg (1488-1510), b) Helene of Palatinate (1493-1524)
4) Kunigunde (1491-1546) m. Casimir (1481-1537) Margrave of Brandenburg-Kulmbach
5) Amalia (1493-1550) m. Henry V (1489-1568) Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel
6) Helene (1496)
4) Kunigunde (1465-1520) m. Casimir V (1458-1508) King of Poland [2]
1) Casimir (1487-1490)
2) Vladislaus (1488-1493)
3) Frederick I (1489-1538) King of Poland, m. Catherine of Mecklenburg (1487-1561)
4) Hedwig (1491-1567) m. Louis V (1478-1544) Elector Palatine
5) Elizabeth (1494-1500)
6) Casimir (1496-1531)
7) Sophia (1499-1543) m. Stanisław (1500-1524) Duke of Mazovia
8) Anna (1503-1556) m. Joachim II (1505-1571) Elector of Brandenburg
5) John (1467-1529) Holy Roman Emperor, m. a) Bianca Maria Sforza (1472-1510), b) Catherine of Palatinate (1499-1526)
1a) Frederick (1496-1501)
2a) Rudolf II (1498-1530) Holy Roman Emperor, m. Anna of Bohemia (1503-1547) [3]
3a) Ernest I (1500-1562) Holy Roman Emperor, m. Margaret of Bavaria-Landshut (1506-1571) [4]
4a) Eleanor (1501-1508)
5a) Helene (1504-1559) m. Charles II (1506-1549) King of Bohemia [3]
[1] Son of George the Rich. IOTL died after being dropped by nanny.[2] Surviving Saint Casimir.
[3] Children of Vladislaus Jagiellon, who ITTL is only King of Bohemia while his brother John Albert rules Hungary.
[4] Daughter of [1]
A second Habsburg line that no one needs (and a different Bavaria) 
Albrecht III, Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1438-1460] (1401-1460) m: 1437 Anna of Brunswick-Grübenhagen (1415-1474)
[1] Daughter of Christoph I of Baden and Ottilie of Katzenelnbogen
[2] Son of Duke Eberhard I of Württemberg and Barbara Gonzaga
[3] Younger son of Emperor Maximilian and Marie, Duchess of Burgundy. Swoops in to marry Magdalene (and take custody of her children before anyone else can even blink. Despite the mercenary nature of their marriage, it is generally agreed that despite the objections from opponents (specifically Philip the Handsome), the pair have a rather contented marriage.
[4] This is the Habsburg practice you see with Leopold I and the “Neuburg bunch”, lacking available sisters he co-opts his sisters-in-law, even his wife’s stepgrandmother (Maria Franziska of Heiligenberg) for the purpose of expanding the Habsburg powerbase. Franz’s nieces and nephews in Burgundy might be regarded as “too important”, and his sister Margarethe is unwilling to remarry. Which means that Franz’s stepchildren are used instead
[5] Daughter of Wilhelm II of Hesse and Yolande of Lorraine (OTL a son). Wilhelm II still remarries and begets Philip the Magnanimous
[6] Son of Ludwig V of the Palatinate and Elisabeth of Bavaria-Landshut (her brother, Ludwig, survives and marries Anastasia of Brandenburg (b.1478) in 1493, and Landshut unites Bavaria)
[7] Killed in the Böcklerkrieg
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Albrecht III, Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1438-1460] (1401-1460) m: 1437 Anna of Brunswick-Grübenhagen (1415-1474)
Johann IV, Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1460-1463] (1437-1463)
Ernst (1438-1460)
Sigmund, Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1463-1467; 1468-1501] (1439-1501) m: 1470 Margarethe of Brandenburg (1450-1489)
Johann, Erbprinz of Bavaria-Munich (1472-1491) m: 1490 Marie of Baden[1] (b.1473)
Sigmund (1489-1497)
Stillborn Daughter (1474)
Magdalene (1477-1518) 1m: 1490 Ludwig I[2], Duke of Württemberg (1475-1503); 2m: 1504 Franz[3], Archduke of Austria (b.1481)
[1m.] Margarethe (b.1497) m[4]: Kasimir, Margrave of Ansbach (b.1483)
[1m.] Barbara (b.1499) m: Heinrich II, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel (b.1489)
[1m.] Ludwig II, Duke of Württemberg (b.1501) m: Violante of Hesse[5] (b.1500)
[1m. posthumous] Magdalene (b.1504) m: Johann, Erbprinz of Saxony (b.1498)
[2m.] Dorothea (b.1506) m: Philipp II[6], Elector Palatine of the Rhine (b.1502)
[2m.] Maria (b.1507)
[2m.] Friedrich Maximilian (b.1509)
[2m.] Leopold (b.1511)
Margarethe (1479-1482)
Elisabeth (1480-1482)
Sigmund (1482-1486)
Albrecht (1440-1445)
Margarethe (1442-1479) m: 1463 Federico I, Marchese of Mantua (1441-1484)
Elisabeth (1443-1486) m: 1460 Ernst, Elector of Saxony (1441-1486)
Albrecht IV, Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1467-1468] (1447-1468[7])
Christoph, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing [1468-1485] (1449-1493)
Wolfgang, Canon in Passau, Augsburg & Cologne (1451-1514)
Barbara (1454-1472)
[1] Daughter of Christoph I of Baden and Ottilie of Katzenelnbogen
[2] Son of Duke Eberhard I of Württemberg and Barbara Gonzaga
[3] Younger son of Emperor Maximilian and Marie, Duchess of Burgundy. Swoops in to marry Magdalene (and take custody of her children before anyone else can even blink. Despite the mercenary nature of their marriage, it is generally agreed that despite the objections from opponents (specifically Philip the Handsome), the pair have a rather contented marriage.
[4] This is the Habsburg practice you see with Leopold I and the “Neuburg bunch”, lacking available sisters he co-opts his sisters-in-law, even his wife’s stepgrandmother (Maria Franziska of Heiligenberg) for the purpose of expanding the Habsburg powerbase. Franz’s nieces and nephews in Burgundy might be regarded as “too important”, and his sister Margarethe is unwilling to remarry. Which means that Franz’s stepchildren are used instead
[5] Daughter of Wilhelm II of Hesse and Yolande of Lorraine (OTL a son). Wilhelm II still remarries and begets Philip the Magnanimous
[6] Son of Ludwig V of the Palatinate and Elisabeth of Bavaria-Landshut (her brother, Ludwig, survives and marries Anastasia of Brandenburg (b.1478) in 1493, and Landshut unites Bavaria)
[7] Killed in the Böcklerkrieg
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Sebastian I (1554-1578) King of Portugal m. 1572 Margaret (1553-1615) Princess of France [ @Kellan Sullivan @Jan Olbracht @isabella ]
1) Catherine I (1574-1631) Queen of Portugal m. 1592 Philip III (1578-1621) King of Spain
1) Catherine I (1574-1631) Queen of Portugal m. 1592 Philip III (1578-1621) King of Spain
1) Philip IV & I (1594-1649) King of Spain and Portugal m. Anna of Tyrol (1585-1618) Archduchess of Austria (a) Maria Anna (1610-1665) Archduchess of Austria (b)
2) Margaret (1596-1661) Infanta of Portugal m. Władysław IV Vasa (1595-1648) King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania
3) Joanna (1598-1667) Infanta of Portugal m. Gustavus Adolphus (1594-1632) King of Sweden
4) Ferdinand (1600-1660) Infante of Portugal m. Dorothea of Saxe-Altenburg (1601-1675)
5) Catherine (1601-1667) Infanta of Portugal m. Louis XIII (1601-1643) King of France
2) John IV (1576-1580) King of Portugal
How about no della Rovere marriage for Claudia de Medici and she gets to marry Albert Ernest from a get go? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_de'_Medici
Also, probably a Bavarian marriage for Anna of Brabant (instead of creepy avucular match of OTL), Henriette Maria marrying Ferdinando II de Medici (would be the best marriage, and della Rovere heiress is not-existent TTL) and Nicholas de Lorraine marrying his cousin Maria Christina de Medici (born healthy TTL)?
VVD0D95
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Felipe II of Spain (b.1527) m 1) Maria Manuela of Portugal (b.1527: d.1545) 3) Elisabeth of Valois (b.1545 : d. 1568) 4) Anne of Austria (b.1549)
Issue
1a) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (b.1545: d.1568)
3b) Isabella Clara Eugenia (b.1566)
3c) Catherine Michelle (b.1567)
4d) Ferdinand, Prince of Asturias (b.1571)
4e) Infante Diego (b.1575)
4f) Infante Felipe (b.1578)
Issue
1a) Carlos, Prince of Asturias (b.1545: d.1568)
3b) Isabella Clara Eugenia (b.1566)
3c) Catherine Michelle (b.1567)
4d) Ferdinand, Prince of Asturias (b.1571)
4e) Infante Diego (b.1575)
4f) Infante Felipe (b.1578)
Margarida for Wladyslaw just looks weird (seems more likely that she'll either marry the dauphin), although considering he tried to marry Anne of Austria OTL, I wouldn't discount it entirely.
Anna of Tyrol for queen of Spain strikes me as massively unlikely (unless her mom is Eleonora/surviving Anna de Medici) And OTL Maria Anna of Austria exiisting is borderline ASB. Since in both scenarios where Anna of Tyrol is free to marry in Spain or counted as a suitable match either make her mom Anna de Medici or give her a surviving brother). In the former case, Anna marries in Spain while Matthias marries Magdalene of Bavaria or Kostanze of Austria (Wlad IV's stepmom).
With no Margot to marry, Henri of Navarre likely weds Christine of Lorraine (Catherine de Medici's second choice), which means a totally different line in France (and unlikely Maria de Medici ever gets a look in). However, Maria de Medici being queen of France (or married to Rudolf II/Matthias, which were options OTL) is the only way her niece, Anna of Tyrol would be considered appropriate (as French/imperial proxy).
A match to Gustaf Vasa, Altenburg are ASB. Doable for an Austrian archduchess (if the wind is blowing in the right direction) but if Spain wouldn't even allow matches between an infanta and the Anglican Charles I/Charles II, I don't see them tolerating a match between an uber-Catholic infanta and a full-blown heretic without a conversion. And Gustaf converting to Catholicism is not only ASB but it undermines his dad's whole argument for deposing the papist Sigismund III. Closest to a "Catholic" you'd get Gustaf is either Elizabeth Stuart (Anglican) or a Rohan girl (there was talk of the duc de Rohan marrying his sister Katharina under Henri IV).
I mean he tried for imperial princesses IOTL too, didn't he?
Or? (And the dauphin in this case would be of better age for her sister)
Exactly...I was thinking more of the lines of Henry IV just not having sons with his ATL first wife, so she's still his second wife
This was me struggling my hardest to find OTL monarchs for her