Henry VII gets his head chopped off. The boys probably end up in the Church, where they can't father children. Not sure about Margaret and Mary yet.
List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II
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Do you have any ideas for them?
Also, who becomes Ferdinand II of Aragon’s second wife ITTL?
Could be that he doesn't need a second wife ittl due to either isabel jr or juan having surviving issue
In the same world.
Catherine of Navarre (1468-1517) m. John de Albret (1469-1493) (a) m. Ferdinand of Aragon (1452-1516) (b) [1]
1a) Anne of Navarre (b.1492)
2a) Magdalena of Navarre (1494 – 1504).
3b) Isabella of Navarre and Aragon(b.1497)
4b) Ferdinand, Prince of Girona (1499-1504)
5b) Eleanor of Navarre and Aragon (b.1501)
6b) Tiago, Prince of Viana and Girona (b.1502) [2]
7b) Constance of Navarre and Aragon (1505-1507)
8b) Gaston (b.1506)
9b) Blanche of Navarre and Aragon (b.1509)
[1] Isabella of Castile dies during the siege of Granada in 1492.
[2] Born on 25th July and named for the Saint....
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no match with the Habsburgs? Or France? Seems like a massive oversight on both parts
wouldn't he be "Jaume/Chaime" (like the last two kings of Aragon)?
I looked up what the Spanish called St James the Great and came up with San Tiago 🤷♀️
You're right, I'll swap out Margaret's match. Edward *was* originally supposed to be wed to Eleanor of Austria... and then I realised I had to deal with the debt to the Saxons, so Sophia got swapped in in her stead.
Yeah, with a different wife. Half-siblings can have the same name, just look at King John and both his daughters being Joanna.
So does Juan, prince of Asturias, dies otl or does he survives and if so who does he marry?
Dies as OTL, otherwise Ferdinand's son with Catherine wouldn't be Prince of Girona.
Oh.... So Isabel Jr becomes Isabel II? Or does it pass to the Habsburgs
Out of curiosity, when you say "Because it had to be done tonight" do you mean because of the new Princes in the Tower documentary? And if you watched it, what did you think of it?
Yep, you did watch it. I can just tell from the Saxony debt comment.
Yes, I watched it. I watched it determined not to be swayed by it, but the various documents in different archives suggesting Richard, at least, survived... I have to say, it's a more plausible theory than I thought at first...
I don't think so. Not if we're talking about Joanna, Princess of Wales, at least.
I'm thinking Castile goes to Charles V, along with Burgundy. Tiago gets both Navarre and Aragon.
What king John you were talking about then? As you were talking about Ferdinand II of Aragon, I had taken that as a reference to his father John II of Aragon, who had a daughter called Joanna by Blanche and another Joanna by Joanna Enriquez but the first one was long dead at the birth of her half-sister.