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Vexacus

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Japhy said:
Don't make it out like I've attacked you. I asked some questions, you should be willing to discuss your work.
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I never said that, I meerly said "what's done is done" regarding the fact I deleted my posts, which in hindsight were a bit sloppy
 

Japhy

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Kovalenko said:
Following up on this entertaining list



Lets try another round, new additions must be real people, for example.

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1789-1797: Gunning Bedford, Jr. (Independent)
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This isn't the right thread for this.
 

Jaydoh

Continuing this series, here we have the British prime ministers from the P.O.D. to the 'present.' While lists from here on out won't have election dates and defeated opponents like the prior two, I'll try to make up for it w/ more descriptive footnotes.

1859-1866: Lord Palmerston (Liberal)
1866-1871: Lord Russell (Liberal) [1]
1871-1873: Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative)
1873-1880: William Gladstone (Liberal) [2]
1880-1881: Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative)
1881-1889: Lord Salisbury (Conservative) [3]
1889-1891: William Gladstone (Liberal)
1891-1898: Lord Salisbury (Conservative)
1898-1907: Joseph Chamberlain (Conservative/Unionist) [4]
1907-1918: Lord Lansdowne (Unionist/National Unionist) [5]
1918-1919: Bonar Law (National Unionist) [6]
1919-1924: J. M. Robertson (Liberal) [7]
1924-1932: David Lloyd George (Liberal/National Liberal) [8]
1932-[1941]: John Spencer-Churchill (National Conservative/Conservative) [9]

[1] Lord Palmerston living a year longer results in a more stable footing for the Russell ministry. Ironically, this leads to the Liberals passing a Reform Bill in 1866 that's less radical than the one's the Tories passed in 1867 IOTL.
[2] Gladstone being in office ITTL when Disraeli was IOTL means that the Second Anglo-Afghan and Anglo-Zulu Wars are avoided.
[3] On the other hand, Salisbury being PM instead of Gladstone means that the Panjdeh Incident goes hot, leading to the (First) Anglo-Russian War.
[4] Not gonna lie, EdT's Fight and Be Right is almost solely responsible for the idea to put a Unionist Party in the timeline. ITTL, however, it results from a combination of Liberal Unionists defecting over Gladstone's home rule agenda followed by Free Trade Conservatives defecting over Chamberlain's protectionist agenda.
[5] This one. He leads a unity government during the Great War, but is eventually forced to resign after agreeing to a 'no-win' armistice with Germany.
[6] His ministry only lasts long enough to negotiate the final treaty. He and the Unionists are quickly swept out of office.
[7] Ireland finally gets home rule (but only after Liberals are forced to coalition with the Irish Parliamentary Party to have a majority). The Unionist Party ends up disintegrating after its main raison d'être is gone.
[8] Another period of unity government arises when TTL's Great Depression hits
[9] Lloyd George dies of Orinoco Fever (not a great way to go), and with King Albert beginning to suffer from the disease as well, the beginning of the obligatory Churchill ministry starts off very shakily.
 
Callan

Callan

Interesting ideas Jaydoh: you seem to have created a much more interesting CSA than most attempts and your UK PMs are original. I'd like to see more!
 

TPL99

Obama as Kennedy

35. 1949-1957: Douglas MacArthur (Republican-Wisconsin)
36. 1957-1961: Robert A. Taft (Republican-Ohio)
37. 1961-1969: Robert B. Meyner (Democratic-New Jersey)
38. 1969-1971: Jim Rhodes (Republican-Ohio)*
39. 1971-1977: John Volpe (Republican-Massachusetts)
40. 1977-1981: Richard Nixon (Republican-California)
41. 1981-1993: Daniel Patrick Moynihan (Democratic-New York)
42. 1993-2001: Jay Nixon (Democratic-Missouri)
43. 2001-2009: Colin Powell (Republican-New York)
44. 2009-2011: Barack Obama (Democratic-Illinois)**
45. 2011-2017: Joe Biden (Democratic-Delaware)
46. 2017-2022: Meg Whitman (Republican-California)***
47. 2022-2025: Bill Huizenga (Republican-Michigan)
48. 2025-2029: Jason Carter (Democratic-Georgia)
49. 2029-2037: Dwayne Johnson (Republican-California)
50. 2037-2041: George P. Bush (Republican-Texas)
51. 2041-2049: Chelsea Clinton (Democratic-Arkansas)
52. 2049-2057: Prescott Bush (Republican-Texas)
53. 2057-2065: Malia Obama (Democratic-Illinois)
54. 2065-present: Marc Mezvinsky (Democratic-New York)

* Dies in office
** Assassinated
*** Resigns
 
Mumby

Mumby

List of Prime Ministers of the Kingdom of Great Britain

1766: William Pitt, 1st Earl of Chatham (Whig)
1767: Charles Watson-Wentworth, 2nd Marquess of Rockingham (Whig)
1774: Charles Watson-Wentworth, 2nd Marquess of Rockingham (Whig)
1781: Charles Watson-Wentworth, 2nd Marquess of Rockingham (Rockinghamite Whig)
1788: Frederick North, 2nd Earl of Guildford ('Tory')
1791: John Montagu, 5th Earl of Sandwich (Northite Tory-Pittite Tory Coalition)
1795: William Pitt 'The Younger' (Pittite Tory-Burkite Whig Coalition)
1800: William Pitt 'The Younger' (Pittite Tory-Burkite Whig Coalition)
1806: Sir Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baronet (Pittite Tory-Old Whig Coalition)
1810: Sir Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baronet (Reform Whig-Tory Coalition)
1816: Sir Alexander Hamilton, 1st Baronet (Reform Whig)
1820: Charles Grey, 2nd Earl Grey (Radical Whig)
1826: Charles Grey, 2nd Earl Grey (Radical)
1831: Charles Jenkinson, 3rd Earl of Liverpool (Tory-Physiocrat Coalition)
1837: Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington (Tory-Radical Coalition)
1840: Samuel Beresford (Reformist)
1843: Sir Grotius van Buren (Reformist-Radical-'Anti-Rose' Tory-Beresfordite Reformist Coalition [National Unity Government])
1854: Sir Grotius van Buren (National Union)
 

Brundlefly

Germand and USA reversed

Did we have such a thing already? Just a dabble, as some equivalents proved to be almost impossible (e.g. Ehrhardt, Kiesinger, Reagan), so suggestions are always welcome. Well, here goes...

German Chancellors:

1948 Kurt Schumacher (SPD) def. Jakob Kaiser (CDU) and Theodor Oberländer (GB/BHE)
1952 Ulrich de Maizière (CDU) def. Carlo Schmid (SPD)
1956 def. Carlo Schmid (SPD)
1960 Willy Brandt (SPD) def. Karl Carstens (CDU)
1963 Herbert Wehner (SPD)
1964 Herbert Wehner (SPD) def. Franz-Josef Strauß (CSU)
1968 Karl Carstens (CDU) def. Robert Havemann (SPD) and Adolf von Thadden (NPD)
1972 Karl Carstens (CDU) def. Egon Bahr (SPD)
1974 Rainer Barzel (CDU)
1976 Erhard Eppler (SPD) def. Rainer Barzel (CDU)
1980 Paul Kirchhof (CDU) def. Erhard Eppler (SPD)
1984 def. Johannes Rau (SPD)
1988 Manfred Wörner (CDU) def. Björn Engholm (SPD)
1992 Gerhard Schröder (SPD) def. Manfred Wörner (CDU) and Eberhard von Kuenheim (Republikaner)
1996 def. Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU) and Eberhard von Kuenheim (Republikaner)
2000 Roland Koch (CDU) def. Rudolf Scharping (SPD) and Hans-Christian Ströbele (Grüne)
2004 def. Klaus Wowereit (SPD)
2008 Karamba Diaby (SPD) def. Volker Rühe (CDU)
2012 def. Dieter Althaus (CDU)


US Presidents:

1949 John Foster Dulles (Republican) def. Henry Wallace (Democrat)
 1953 def. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)
1957 def. Hubert Humphrey (Democrat)
1961 def. Robert Kennedy (Democrat)
 1963 Robert Taft (Republican)
1965 Robert Taft (Republican) def. Robert Kennedy (Democrat)
1966 William F. Buckley, Jr. (Republican)
1969 Robert Kennedy (Democrat) def. William F. Buckley, Jr. (Republican)
1972 def. Gerald Ford (Republican)
1974 Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democrat)
1976 Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democrat) def. James Baker (Republican)
1980 Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Democrat) def. Barry Goldwater (Republican)
1982 James Baker (Republican)
1983 James Baker (Republican) def. Ed Koch (Democrat)
1987 def. Lloyd Bentsen (Democrat)
1990 def. Robert Reich (Democrat)
1994 def. Al Gore (Democrat)
1998 Bill Clinton (Democrat) def. James Baker (Republican)
2002 def. John Ashcroft (Republican)
2005 Susan Collins (Republican) def. Bill Clinton (Democrat)
2009 def. Robert Gates (Democrat)
2013 def. Rod Blagojevich (Democrat)
 
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Gorrister

Gorrister

Decided to do an idea that's been bubbling in my head for a bit...

In the Tank

1989-1993: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic) [1]
1988: George H.W Bush/Dan Quayle (Republican)
1993-1997: Jack Kemp/Thommy Thompson (Republican) [2]
1992: Michael Dukakis/Bob Kerrey (Democratic)
1997-2005: Thommy Thompson/Christine Todd Whitman (Republican) [3]
1996: Al Gore/Harris Wofford (Democratic), J. Marshall Coleman/Tim Penny (Independence)
2000: Brad Carson/Jeanne Shaheen (Democratic)
2005-2009: Jim McGreevy/Cleo Fields (Democratic) [4]
2004: Christine Todd Whitman/George Allen (Republican), Winona LaDuke/David Cobb (Green)
2009-2013: John Sununu/J.C Watts (Republican) [5]
2008: Jim McGreevy/Cleo Fields (Democratic)
2013-Present: Gwen Graham/Dave Freudenthal (Democratic) [6]
2012: John Sununu/J.C Watts (Republican), Parker Griffith/Lou Dobbs (Independent)

[1]: Michael Dukakis was able to avoid having a cold before the second debate with VP Bush, and wins that one, avoiding the Willie Horton affair (He also keeps his campaign manager). He's able to eek out a .5% win. His Presidency starts off by being fairly uneventful, signing a budget early in the year, introducing gun control legislation and giving speeches to college kids, but it soon finds itself in trouble as Exxon Valdez tips over. He quickly signs into law an Enviromental Regulations bill and sends aid workers to clean up the mess left behind. Soon after, the resignation of Jim Wright gives the Democrats a dip in popularity, though Dukakis was still in the positive. Democrats have some positive news as Colonel North was sent to prison over the Iran Contra business. The President later co operated with Soviet Premier Mikhail Gorbachev to continue the START Treaty and possibly expand it. In Summer, after some decent economic news, Thurgood Marshall announced his retirement from the Supreme Court. Dukakis quickly nominated Governor Babbit, who was confirmed by a vote of 58-42. After President Noriega of Panama ordered a massacre of American embassy workers, there was a large call for invasion. Dukakis was fence sitting on the issue for about a week before he decided to relent and announce the invasion. It went smoother than many thought that it would, and the US was able to pull out a victory by the autumn of 1990. Also during that year, the US underwent a small recession, and the GOP refused to go along with the Volcker economic plan unless he conceded a tax cut to the wealthiest 1% of Americans. While the plan passed with flying colors, Democrats screamed bloody murder over the GOP concession. Dukakis' major issue by August was the decision of whether or not to invade Iraq. After Iraq had invaded Kuwait, the US had condemned the country, but was unsure on the war. Democrats were split on the issue while the GOP attacked Dukakis for not being decisive enough. The President attempted a compromise on the issue when he put 1,900 troops on the ground, but focused more heavily on airstrikes. It was declared over by January 20th 1991, with Saddam deciding to withdraw from Kuwait and sign a peace treaty. Dukakis was incredibly popular.

Dukakis had a +13 approval rating after the Soviet Union fell, even though the collapse of the USSR was credited with Reagen by some. A combination of poor debate performances, a messy VP replacement situation and an economic slump in August caused his loss to Congressman Kemp.

[2]: President Kemp took office during a time of economic uncertainty. However, Kemp promised to get the economy back on track by early 1995. He decided to work with the split Congress and hammer out a compromise economic deal. He conceded some things to the Democrats, like a payroll tax holiday for Middle Class families, cutting the defense budget by a billion and a small stimulus package. But he went along with a lot of Republican ideas too, like cutting taxes across the board, a freeze on spending, increased deregulation and a general supply side position. The bill passed by an embarrasingly narrow margin (220-213 in the House and 53-45 in the Senate). Justice William J. Brennan passed away in the Winter of 1993, so Kemp was forced to nominate someone. He thought about his choice for a week, and he finally came to a decision: Former New Hampshire Associate Justice David Souter. Souter faced heavy criticism from Democrats, including Russ Feingold, who attempted to filibuster his nomination, though he made it on anyway. By mid 1994, the Economy seemed to have picked up, so voters decided to keep the Senate for the GOP and let the party make a few gains in the house. The US had a smooth intervention in Haiti, removing the Dictator Raoul Cédras and reinstalling former President Jean Bernard Astride as leader of the country. The popular President Kemp decided to call it quits in late 1995, just after the Dot Com bubble pops up. He signs increased AMTRAK Reform and funding at the Behest of Senator Biden and VP Thompson at the end of the year. Thompson easily clears out the Republican field, and goes on to win the general election along with Senator Whitman with 45%, to Senator Gore's 39% and Governor Coleman's 14%.

[3]: Thompson started off his term with an extension of bailouts given to rail companies. Soon after, Saddam Hussein announced that Iraq would take a stand against the US and bomb any army facilities left in Iraq after the Gulf War. President Thompson decided to send air strikes mainly over Baghdad, Mosul and Ramadi, hoping that would scare Saddam off. It didn't, as Saddam continued to threaten Kuwait yet again, firing missles at it, but not actually invading. Soon there were rumours that he was hiding WMDs, or Weapons of Mass Destruction. Another invasion seemed to be looming, when the UN intervened by saying that another war would not be permitted. Thompson decided to continue the air strikes until Hussein finally worked out a peace treaty. General Colin Powell returned carrying a "We did it!" banner. Thompson in early 1998, at the behest of VP Whitman, cobbled Congressional Republicans together to author the "Three Strikes Act", which would enact a three strikes law regarding criminals, lessen parole and extend the possibility of the death penalty for other crimes. It faced considerable opposition from both sides of the aisle, including from Congressman Ron Paul, who called it a "disgusting violation of liberty", and Senator Patricia Schroeder, who decried it as "inhumane". Despite the conviction of Timothy McVeigh over the murders of 34 in the San Fransisco bombings only a week before, 55 Senators and 189 Representatives voiced opposition to the bill. Thompson and Whitman decided to scale it down, removing the parole and death penalty provision, so it was able to pass, though due to illness taken by 4 Senators, who were unable to turn up. Republicans lost the House and Senate in the midterms, and Thompson became incredibly unpopular as the economy was going through stagnation, where it was neither growing or dropping. Congressman Brad Carson won a contentious Democratic Primary against Governor Russ Feingold and Former Senator Harris Wofford. However, despite the ecnomic uncertainty and looming war with Nigeria, Thompson was able to win by the skin of his teeth.

He began his second term hoping for better times, and they seemed to be happining. Unemployment went donw by 1.9% within the past two years and was now becoming less of a problem, the stock market began to grow and the previously dominant threat of the net bubble popping died down. So the President got to work on his favourite topic: Trains. He began instituting a nationwide high speed rail system, complete with higher speed trains developed recently. He packaged it into his "infrastructure bill", which also included a small expansion of the rail tax and an expansion of nationwide infrastructure. Over 300 supported it in the House and 75 supported it in the senate, and it was signed into law only a short while later. Nigeria was still threatening the US, so Thompson decided to go with a repeat of Iraq and carpet bomb the country into submission. The leadership went into hiding as the capital lay in ruins, in what would be known as one of the darkest nights of 2002. A stop to it was eventually pushed by Congress, Thompson finally relented and managed to get Secretary of Defense Cheney to withdraw the air strikes. Democrats expanded their majorities in the House and Senate in 2002, though it wasn't as bad as it could've been. Thompson's final act as President was a bill which would extensively reform the CDC stockpile and increase the power of the state's handling it. Thompson now has a mixed reputation, with many admitting that he was no Kemp.

[4]: Congressman McGreevy defeated Whitman in an exciting race. He was inaugurated with the first black Vice President. He first decided to push through Health Care Reform in the style of a "Medicare Buy In" program with a Canada-esque system where consumers could import from other countries. It easiliy passed the Democratic House and Senate, and was signed into law quickly. Soon after, an attempt at strengthening the Glass-Steagall act was introduced, packaged with a Campaign Finance Reform bill and a stimulus package. Many derided it as "Far Left" and "restrictive", but a watered down version was able to pass. He wanted to halt the expansion of F Type bombers that were planned to fly over Iraq during the Thompson years, but he was only able to slow down the production and drop the F-53. During early 2006, he repealed the welfare cuts made during the Kemp administration. But in June, the race to win Senator Robert Byrd's seat (Byrd had resigned in December of 2005 to spend time with his family) was won by Congresswoman Shelley Moore Capito, who defeated State Attorney General Joe Manchin by a margin of 51-48. This smashed the Democrat's supermajority in the senate. But Capito was willing to work with the president, forcing him to compromise on his debt reduction plan, including some tax and spending cuts, though with a 6% cut on the military. Republicans made a small gain of 4 seats in the Senate and 30 in the House during the midterms, narrowly taking the latter. Despite a decent economy and smoothed relations abroad, Governor Sununu defeated the President with 49.5% of the vote.

[5]: Sununu had a mixed time in office. His first act was to invade Sudan, which was under the control of Omar al Bashar, and was linked to reports of massacres and public executions being ordered. Within a month, Darfur was captured and the US was in control now. The Republic of Sudan was soon formed, but troops and military bases were still in place. Soon after, Sununu decided to tackle the economy. He compromised with Democrats a bit in order to get extra votes on things like the environment and unemployment benefits. It passed quite easily, with Republicans controlling the House and Democrats only barely holding the Senate. But right after, the US went into a mild recession, something the president hadn't forseen. He wished that his plan would work and decided to pass a new budget, this time directed at taxes. It would include a gutting of the death and sales tax, and a lowering of the income tax. While this plan faced more intense criticism, it also passed. For the rest of the year, Immigration Reform, a new free trade extension with the African Union and Cap n Trade would all be heavily debated in Congress. 2010 was an "eh" year, according to Vice President Watts, as little happened during it. However, the ordered assassination of Muammar Gaddafi, the resignation of Governor Billy Graham due to a sex scandal, and Sununu's approvals finally dipping into the negatives were all in the headlines. Democrats gained in the Senate, while Republicans lost 10 Seats in the Midterms. Extra action was taken against the Iraq-Libya coalition, continuing the air strikes from Thompson's time, with mixed results. Secretary Fred Thompson reported that Unemployment went down by .9%, a good result for the President. He would go on to lose to Florida Governor Gwen Graham in a heated contest.

[4]: As of the 2nd of October 2014, Graham has had a decent term. She enacted Welfare Expansion and extension of benefits to the unemployed in April. She stopped the air strikes over Libya and Iraq. But she's faced problems, as the economy is still struggling and the African Union seems to be in crisis as a new group of rebels have emerged, taking over a quarter of Nigera and half of the Congo at this point.
 

Jaydoh

So apparently the F4 key on my new laptop doesn't need me to press 'Alt' to close a window. That was a fun way to lose a post. Let's try this again: Canadian prime ministers, now with more Duverger's Law!

1867-1878: John A. MacDonald (Conservative) [1]
1878-1886: Alexander Mackenzie (Liberal) [2]
1886-1894: Charles Tupper (Conservative) [3]
1894-1897: Wilfred Laurier (Liberal) [4]
1897-1907: Charles Tupper (Conservative) [5]
1907-1913: Robert Bond (Liberal) [6]
1913-1919: Robert Borden (Conservative/Unionist)
1919-1924: George Eulas Foster (Unionist) [7]
1924-1926: William Stevens Fielding (Liberal-Progressive)
1926-1929: Thomas Crerar (Liberal-Progressive) [8]
1929-1934: Hugh Guthrie (Conservative)
1934-[1941]: M. A. MacPherson (Conservative)

[1] Increased hostility towards the United States averts the circumstances of the Pacific Scandal.
[2] A combination of a weaker Panic of 1873 (due to less railroad construction in the U.S.), greater financial support from London, and a larger influx of African-American immigrants all help to hasten the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.
[3] MacDonald and Tupper never had a personal falling out ITTL, so Tupper easily succeeded MacDonald as leader of the Conservatives.
[4] Because an alt-Manitoban Schools Question scenario arises while Laurier is in office, he overplays his hand. Cue second Tupper ministry.
[5] Given their shared visions of protectionism and imperial cooperation, Tupper and Chamberlain get along famously.
[6] Yep, this means that Newfoundland is already part of Canada ITTL. Bond attempts to build ties between the Liberal Party and organizations such as the Patrons of Industry.
[7] Foster is able to keep Borden's Unionist party together for a few years, but the rising popularity of the rebranded Liberal-Progressive Party eventually proves too much.
[8] Proof that Bond's efforts paid off. Succeeds an increasingly unwell Fielding as Prime Minister, only to be quickly turned out of office once the Great Depression hits and Canadians begin to turn against Free Trade.
 

Japhy

Banned
Turquoise Blue said:
Sorry to nitpick about colours, but why is the Liberals orange? Historically, they were red, the heir of the Parti rouge.
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It's not like they have't been orange in dozens of other Canadian Lists. And hundred's of other nations lists in this thread.

@Jaydoh: I like this series you're doing a lot. The Canadian one is especially interesting, since in ACW timelines Canada usually gets some odd hand waves. Despite their proximity and pretty clear connections I tend not to think about the ties between the War in the US and Confederation and the Railroad. Easy to just imagine the other two would happen irregardless. How did Newfoundland make it in earlier? And how does the Manitoba Schools Question go differently?
 
Callan

Callan

I'm going to do a few posts based around the theme of Franz Ferdinand surviving his assassination. All figures born after the PoD should be considered to be more or less fictional. I eventually want to write a fully-fledged TL based in this universe.

1910-1915: Herbert Asquith (Liberal Minority with Irish Parliamentary support)
1915-1919: Herbert Asquith (Liberal)
1919-1923: Winston Churchill (Liberal)
1923-1930: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative)
1930-1932: David Lloyd George (Liberal Minority)
1932-1937: David Lloyd George (Liberal-Labour Coalition)
1937-1939: Leo Amery (Conservative) †
1939-1949: Duff Cooper (Conservative)
1949-1956: Herbert Morrison (Labour-Liberal Coalition)
1956-1964: Robert Boothby (Conservative)
1964-1969: John Prumufo (Conservative- National Liberal Support Coalition)
1969-1972: Michael Benn (New Democratic) †
1972-1979: Edmund Dell (New Democratic)
1979-1983: Edmund Dell (New Democratic-Irish People's Coalition)
1983-1990: Jean Barker (Conservative)
1990-1994: John King (Conservative-National Liberal Coalition)
1994-1997: Nancy Dewar (New Democratic-Reform Coalition)
1997-2002: Nancy Dewar (New Democratic)
2002-2006: Henry Ferguson (New Democratic/ NDP Minority)
2006-2009: Malcolm Woodward (Conservative-National Liberal Coalition)
2009-2012: John Gilmore (New Democratic)
2012-20__: ???? (New Democratic)


Herbert Asquith
Asquith survived the threat of Civil War in Ireland and managed to get through Home Rule in both Ireland (which involved partition and separate parliaments for north and south) and Scotland by 1917. Having won a stable majority in 1915 over Balfour's Tories, Asquith set to work expanding the welfare state and began slow moves towards Lord's reform. The latter moves were scuppered by the outbreak of war in Europe in the autumn of 1919 over a terror attack in Belgrade. The dividing lines across Europe came down very quickly and Britain and France were kept in a stalemate in the West while Russia made slow progress in the East. The tide began to turn in the Allies' favour following the successful raid at Gallipoli (which led to the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire). Asquith was not around to see the end of the war however; he suffered much criticism for his wartime leadership and was forced out in favour of someone who would be more engaged in fighting.. He was only able to take 15 MPs with him into opposition. However, his achievements as a Domestic reformer gave him a much more positive view from historians and the public from the late 1920s onwards.

Winston Churchill
The war hero responsible for the successful Gallipoli raids was popular with the public but his party-switching meant that he never had the total support of his party. He oversaw the entry of the USA into the war in 1921 and "the final push" which caused Austria-Hungary to disintegrate and Germany to forcibly remove its Kaiser. He also oversaw the Treaty of Lille (which stripped Germany of its Empire and surrounded it with buffer states) and the creation of the League of Nations. Unfortunately, his war leadership massively outmatched his peacetime government abilities and he was defeated in a landslide as the UK slipped into a deep recession.

Austen Chamberlain
"When Austen leaves a room, the lights come on" was how the Vice President of the United States aptly described the new Prime Minister. Chamberlain had little choice but to accept Home Rule and the welfare state created by his predecessors. His premiership was largely unremarkable, noted mainly for his constant strife with the Trade Unions, a half-hearted attempt to renegotiate the war debts of both Britain and France and constant economic stagnation.

David Lloyd George
Lloyd George easily wrestled control of the Liberal Party off of Churchill and promoted Keynesian economics as a solution to the nation's economic woes. The policies were controversial; he first split the Liberals into two with them and after forming a coalition with the Labour Party split them in two as well. Even his cabinet nearly split in two over his unceasing defence of Free Trade. He was noted for his passionate (and ultimately successful) attempts to ease the debt and military burden of off Germany, for which he won a Nobel Peace Price Prize. Most of his foreign policy was regarded as extremely weak however: he was forced to give India self-rule and he was powerless to stop the coup which led to a Fascist France for all of two weeks or stop Communists from taking over Spain. Lloyd-George and his coalition were hounded from office in a fit of anti-socialist hysteria, although just like Asquith, his reputation rebounded significantly after he left office.

Leo Amery
Amery was the obvious choice to lead the Tories; having made his name by vigorously opposing Lloyd George's failed attempt to restore some of Germany's colonies and his consistent anti-fascism and anticommunism. He was one of the key proponents of embargoes against Fascist Italy and Communist Spain which cost him much support from the business community. He allowed the "White Dominions" of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa to gain full independence. On a visit to Dublin in 1939, he was assassinated by a rogue Irish Republican.

Duff Cooper
It was quickly agreed that Amery's key political and ideological ally should succeed him. Cooper's first act was to diffuse the political crisis created in the Irish Parliament by Amery's death by cracking down hard on Irish Nationalist militias but refusing to ban political groups like Sinn Fein. He placed much more faith than his predecessors in the ability of the League of Nations to sort out the world's problems but sent much military aid to China to complement the League's crippling sanctions the aggressive Japan. Very few of Lloyd George's reforms were scaled back (in fact, many reforms that the Liberals were unable to do were implemented by the Tory government) but Cooper allowed himself to take credit for the resultant economic boom. In 1949, Duff made an unwise choice to call a snap election, which he lost.

Herbert Morrison
By this point, the Labour Party had overtaken the Liberals as the largest left-wing party. However, they were still unable to govern without them. Morrison's government was largely consensus-driven but began the slow process of decolonisation, India and Burma gaining independence in 1952 and 1953 respectively. Foreign Secretary Oswald Mosely was allowed to pursue the creation of a free trade and mutual defence pact between Britain, France and Germany. At home, he forced through reforms of local government (creating directly elected mayors for Britain's cities) and reluctantly allowed the voting system to be changed to the Alternative Vote.

Robert Boothby
Boothby's premiership was dominated by foreign affairs, allowing young acolytes like Enoch Powell and John Profumo to run domestic policy, which mainly involved keeping the Social Democratic consensus and resisting moves for more devolution. He allowed himself to be one of the founding fathers of the European Federation and presided over the detonation the first nuclear bomb in Pacific in a joint Anglo-French effort. He stepped up interventionist efforts following Syndicalist revolutions in Turkey and Brazil and brought in increasing numbers of British Troops to deal with a communist uprising in Malayan Union which was ineffective in exterminating the threat.

John Profumo
Profumo was the first Tory leader to be elected under Cooper's reforms (Boothby having been elected unanimously) and was one of the youngest leaders the Tories had ever had. He immediately called an election in which the Tories lost their majority. Fortunately for him, the National Liberals were more than willing to support his government. He pleased economic liberals by denationalising the telecommunications industry, supported continued integration with the EF and softened his approach to communist nations; all of which went down badly with the Tory right. International protests over the Malayan War and increasing economic instability (especially in the form of inflation) doomed the Tories to defeat.

Michael Benn
After the 1956 defeat, the Liberal and Labour parties resolved to merge into the New Democratic Party. The merger was controversial, with many liberals flocking to the National Liberals and many leftists forming a communist-tinged Socialist Party. Benn, the son of a Liberal-turned-Labour Peer was the ideal choice to lead the new party. After winning a landslide he created a "Dream Team" of a cabinet which lived up to its dynamic promises: He began winding down the Britain's effort in the Malaysian War, decriminalised homosexuality and abortion, forced through decimalisation and re-started decolonisation process in Africa and Asia. His last triumph was at a Commonwealth summit in Montreal where massive sanctions against the South African Apartheid regime were agreed. His plane back home crashed into the Scottish Highlands, leaving no survivors.

Edmund Dell
The dark horse of the campaign triumphed due to the opportunism of James Wilson, the advanced age of Megan Lloyd George and a finance scandal enveloping John Stonehouse. Dell was a radical reformer, forcing through denationalisations and deregulations; part of his manifesto to make the UK "open for business", part of which involved a British Space Program. He presided over the expansion of the EF to the great empires of Central and Eastern Europe: Poland, Czechoslovakia, Austria and Hungary. He was present at the inauguration of Oliver Tambo, South Africa's first post-Apartheid President; he was also present at the Treaty of Warsaw, where German Chancellor Kissenger and Russian PM Andrei Sakharov agreed to indefinitely renounce all the territorial claims they had in Eastern Europe. Dell lost his majority in 1978 (forcing him to rope in the Irish People's party, the successor to the IPP) and an oil shock caused by the a revolution against the Saudi Royal family sent the world as a whole into recession.

Jean Barker
Barker had made her name first as the long-serving mayor of Cambridge, then as the leader of the moderate faction of the Tories against the then self-destructing Tory leader Edward Du Cann. Known for her "soft-touch Conservatism", she continued the free-market policies of her predecessor and placed much emphasis on environmentalism as a solution to the 1980s energy crisis. She failed to stop the rising tensions between Britain and Turkey (the latter detonated a nuclear bomb in 1988) nor the rebirth of the Provisional IRA; she wisely kept a wide berth from both. She was also Prime Minister for the Anglo-French Moon landing in 1989.

John King
After Barker's resignation King was forced into forming a coalition with Heseltine's National Liberals after losing the majority in the commons. King's term continued the Domestic Policies of his predecessor and continued integration into the EC; proposals for the latter ended in political revolt. King was involved in a nuclear standoff with Turkey and Saudi Arabia over sea borders and Cyprus, both sides were very close to launching nuclear weapons if it weren't for the eleventh-hour interventions of League of Nations Secretary-General Bush. Increasing Euroscepticism and Union Strife brought the Tories down to defeat.

Nancy Dewar
Dell's Scottish Secretary had earned the nickname "Captain Britain" for her role in the "No" side's victory in the 1986 Scottish Independence referendum. She was forced to initially do a deal with the Eurosceptic Reform Party but managed to break it off over the issue of Russia's increasing involvement with the European Commonwealth. She managed to pull off a majority in the resultant election. Her full terms were marked by successful Lord's reform (The New House of Councillors being elected by devolved assemblies and local governments) and brokering a peace deal in the destructive Indian-Persian war. Confident of her political legacy, she quit in 2002. She is also noted as a passionate campaigner for feminism and gay rights both in and out power.

Henry Ferguson
The NDP decided to ape the Tories' luck with Barker by selecting another mayor as Prime Minister, in this case the Mayor of Bristol. He proved to be just as worldly but much less shrewd than his predecessor, suffering a general lack of direction and was widely mocked for his dress sense. After his government lost a majority and then a vote of confidence, Ferguson went to the King to dissolve Parliament, only to find that someone else had beaten him to it.

Malcolm Woodward
On paper, the new government was sound: together, the Tories and the National Liberals had a solid majority and could thus form a government without an election. The preceding NDP government was very unpopular. What they couldn't account for, however, was the popular outcry against a change in government using constitutional manouvering. Accusations of a coup faded when Ferguson reigned as NDP leader but the government was still weighed down by a lack of legitimacy both at home and abroad. The few bright spots for the government included the collapse of Communist Spain and an Anglo-French manned mission to Mars. Woodward couldn't take credit for either and both coalition parties were almost routed at the next election.

John Gilmore
The UK's first Irish and first Catholic Prime Minister could best be described as "underwhelming". He was only ever elected off the unpopularity of his predecessors and constantly lacked the full support of his party. He quickly gained a reputation for indecision, lack of charisma and ideological aimlessness. As the world's economies began to slip back into recession and the budget deficit spiralled out of control, a backroom coup against the Prime Minister has gained significant support.
 
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Jaydoh

Japhy said:
It's not like they have't been orange in dozens of other Canadian Lists. And hundred's of other nations lists in this thread.

@Jaydoh: I like this series you're doing a lot. The Canadian one is especially interesting, since in ACW timelines Canada usually gets some odd hand waves. Despite their proximity and pretty clear connections I tend not to think about the ties between the War in the US and Confederation and the Railroad. Easy to just imagine the other two would happen irregardless. How did Newfoundland make it in earlier? And how does the Manitoba Schools Question go differently?
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The perceived threat of the U.S., plus the imperial agendas of Tupper and then Chamberlain, helped to navigate Newfoundland into Canada's orbit. As for Manitoba, the situation in western Canada is all shook up after I butterflied away Louis Riel's return to Canada, thus averting/modifying the North-West Rebellion, and the effects just get vaguer and vaguer from there.
 

The Uchronian

Jaydoh said:
So apparently the F4 key on my new laptop doesn't need me to press 'Alt' to close a window. That was a fun way to lose a post. Let's try this again: Canadian prime ministers, now with more Duverger's Law!

1867-1878: John A. MacDonald (Conservative) [1]
1878-1886: Alexander Mackenzie (Liberal) [2]
1886-1894: Charles Tupper (Conservative) [3]
1894-1897: Wilfred Laurier (Liberal) [4]
1897-1907: Charles Tupper (Conservative) [5]
1907-1913: Robert Bond (Liberal) [6]
1913-1919: Robert Borden (Conservative/Unionist)
1919-1924: George Eulas Foster (Unionist) [7]
1924-1926: William Stevens Fielding (Liberal-Progressive)
1926-1929: Thomas Crerar (Liberal-Progressive) [8]
1929-1934: Hugh Guthrie (Conservative)
1934-[1941]: M. A. MacPherson (Conservative)

[1] Increased hostility towards the United States averts the circumstances of the Pacific Scandal.
[2] A combination of a weaker Panic of 1873 (due to less railroad construction in the U.S.), greater financial support from London, and a larger influx of African-American immigrants all help to hasten the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.
[3] MacDonald and Tupper never had a personal falling out ITTL, so Tupper easily succeeded MacDonald as leader of the Conservatives.
[4] Because an alt-Manitoban Schools Question scenario arises while Laurier is in office, he overplays his hand. Cue second Tupper ministry.
[5] Given their shared visions of protectionism and imperial cooperation, Tupper and Chamberlain get along famously.
[6] Yep, this means that Newfoundland is already part of Canada ITTL. Bond attempts to build ties between the Liberal Party and organizations such as the Patrons of Industry.
[7] Foster is able to keep Borden's Unionist party together for a few years, but the rising popularity of the rebranded Liberal-Progressive Party eventually proves too much.
[8] Proof that Bond's efforts paid off. Succeeds an increasingly unwell Fielding as Prime Minister, only to be quickly turned out of office once the Great Depression hits and Canadians begin to turn against Free Trade.
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Nice scenario you got there. So, when exactly did Newfoundland join Canada ITTL, and how did you manage to pull that off? :)
 
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