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Tal Shiar

1961-1965 - John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
Most known events: Assasination of Martin Luther King, fall of Democratic Party into Democrats and Dixiecrats, Civil Rights Act of 1964 failed in Senate
1965-1969 - John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (Democrat)
Most known events: Direct intervention in Vietnamese War, Civil Resistance, Draft Riots of 1967, Bombing of Alabama by radical communist Afro Americans, strenghtening of Ku Klux Klan influences in the Solid South, condemnation from Soviet Union for racial unequality. Landing on the Moon (1969)
1969-1976 - Richard M. Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
Most known events: Civil Rights Act of 1970, gradual withdrawal from Vietnam (1969-1972), abolition of military draft, ban on undeclared wars (such as Vietnamese War), white riots in the South (1973), forced desegration (1973), battle of Alabama between 1st Airborne Division and Ku Klux Klan (1974), rise of Dixiecrats in the South (1975), Solar System Exploration Program (1969), launching space stations Skylab (1973-1976), Nixon's visit in China (1975)
1976-1978 - Stuart Symington+/Walther Mondale (Democrat)
Most known events: detente between US and Soviet Union, anti-federal riots in Alabama and South Carolina (1976), Arab oil embargo and economical recession (1978), assasination of Symington in Montgomery, Alabama (1978)
1978-1980 - Walter Mondale/vacat (Democrat)
Most known events: martial law in Southern states (1978-1980), Watergate Scandal (1979), impeachment (1980)
1980-1984 - Charles M. Wilson*/C. Douglas Dillon (Republican)
Most known events: joint US-Soviet intervention in Iran during hostage crisis (1980), revocation of martial law, crackdown of the Ku Klux Klan (1980-1982), recovery from economical recession (1980-1983)
1984-1992 - Gerald Ford/Margaret Chase Smith (Republican)
Most known events: Civil Rights Act of 1988 about gender equality, Second New Deal and Restructurization in the Southern states (1985), Beginning of the Mars Sample Return Programme (1986), failed assasination of the Margaret Chase Smith (1990) by Southern radical.
1992-2000 - William Clinton/Al Gore (Democrat)
Most known events: Great Awakening of 1990s in the Southern states and popularization of religion, Gore Plan - foreign help for Russian Federation and other post-communist states in Europe.

*Former New York Governor, Rockefeller's right-hand man

1953-1965 - Nikita Khrushchev
1965-1968 - Mikhail Suslov
1968-1981 - Leonid Brezhnev
1981-1985 - Yuri Andropov
1985-1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1991-1991 - Gennady Yanayev
1991-1992 - Mikhail Gorbachev
 
Cevolian

Cevolian

THE 51st STATE;
My take on an American Annexation of Britain​

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom

1976-1981: Michael Foot (Labour Majority)
def 1978 - Margaret Thatcher (Conservative), David Steel (Liberal)
1981-1981: Sir Walter Walker (Non-Partisan leading Emergency Governent backed by Military Forces)

Prime Ministers of Great Britain (independent)

1981-1982: Michael Foot (Labour Majority)
1982-1983 : Roy Jenkins (SDP leading National Government with Conservatives and SDP-Liberal Alliance)
def 1983 - Margaret Thatcher (Conservative), Michael Foot (Labour)
statehood referendum 1983 - "Yes" Victory

Prime Ministers of Great Britain (US state)

1983-1988: Roy Jenkins (SDP leading "Grand Coalition" with Conservatives and SDP-Liberal Alliance)
1988-1989: Roy Jenkins (Democrat leading "Grand Coalition" with Democrats and Conservatives)
def 1988 - John Moore (Conservative), Enoch Powell [not standing] (Great Britain Movement), Neil Kinnock (Labour)
1989-1992: John Moore (Conservative leading "Grand Coalition" with Democrats and Right Alliance -- Conservative/Republican)
1992-19---: Tom King (Conservative leading "Grand Coalition" with Democrats and Right Alliance -- Conservative/Republican)
def 1993 - Charles Kennedy (Democrat), Alan Sked (Independence), John Prescott (Socialist Labour)

Senators for Great Britain

1. 1983-1988: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
def 1983 - Edward Heath (Great Britain Movement) [provisional election]
2. 1983-1992: Enoch Powell (Great Britain Movement)
def 1983 - David Owen (SDP), David Alton ("Independence" Liberal) [provisional election]
def 1986 - Paddy Ashdown (SDP-Liberal Alliance)

1. 1988-1994: Margaret Thatcher (Right Alliance --Republican)
def 1988 - Gordon Brown (Democrat), Tony Benn (Labour)
2. 1992-?????: Tony Blair (Democrat)
def 1992 - Michael Portillo (Right Alliance -- Conservative), Ken Livingstone (Labour)
def 1998 - William Hague (Right Alliance -- Conservative), Margaret Beckett (Socialist Labour)

1. 1994-?????: Robert Kilroy-Silk (Independence)
def 1994 - John Moore (Right Alliance -- Conservative), Stephen Fry (Democrat), Peter Tatchel (Socialist Labour)



So based on the excellent and crazy TLIAD "A Star is Born" my own take on the UK getting statehood in the USA. Rough sketch; Foot becomes PM and the economy collapses, Argentina takes the Falklands and then there's a brief, failed, coup supported by the royal family but not the Tories. Foot reigns on a very brief socialist government and then collapses in on itself, supplanted by an SDP-Tory marriage of convenience. After an election to confirm the government's mandate to take the UK onto the dollar, a plan is then drawn up for annexation, followed by a referendum which narrowly affirms it. From there chaos ensues...
 
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shiftygiant

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
And finally...

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
1990-1997: John Major (Conservative)
def. 1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrats)
1997-2004: Tony Blair (Labour)
def. 1997: John Major (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrats)
def. 2001: William Hague (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrats)
2004-2009: Gordon Brown (Labour)
def. 2006: Tim Yeo (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats)
2009-2011: David Miliband (Labour)
def. 2011 May (Liberal Democrats Supply and Confidence): Tim Collins (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats), Robert Kilroy-Silk (UKIP)
2011-2017: Tim Collins (Conservative)
def. 2011 Dec: David Miliband (Labour), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats), Robert Kilroy-Silk (UKIP)
def. 2016 (DUP Coalition): Jon Cruddas (Labour), Lynne Featherstone (Liberal Democrats), Angela Constance (SNP), Zac Goldsmith (London First!), Paul Nuttal (UKIP)
2017-20??: John Bercow (Conservative)

Presidents of the United States of America
1993-2001: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democratic)
def. 1992: George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (Republican), Ross Perot/John Stockdale (Independent)
def. 1996: Bob Dole/Caroll Campbell (Republican), Ross Perot/Richard Lamm (United We Stand)
2001-2001: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democratic) †
def. 2000: George W. Bush/Jon Danforth (Republican), Richard Lamm/Jesse Ventura (United We Stand)
2001-2005: Joe Lieberman/Zell Miller (Democratic)
2005-2009: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
def. 2004: Wesley Clark/Max Baucus (Democratic), Ron Paul/Various (United We Stand), Dennis Kucinich/Bernie Sanders (Peace)
2009-2017: Tom Daschle/Janet Napolitano (Democratic)
def. 2008: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
def. 2012: Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio (Republican)
2017-20??: Col. Lindsey Graham/Charlie Baker (Republican)
def. 2016: Janet Napolitano/Chris Murphy (Democratic)

I should note that the United States stuff is just kinda, well, eeh, as the only people who are confirmed ITTL are Clinton, Gore, Lieberman, McCain, and Daschle.
 
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natemamate

Banned
Presidents of America
  1. Joe Pesci/Daniel Stern (Anti Traps Party) 2001-2009
  2. Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democratic-Republican Party) 2009-2013
  3. Bob Iger/Michael Eisner (Loser Party) 2013-2021
Prime Ministers of Britain
  1. Ricky Gervais (Official Monster Raving Loony Party) 2001-2005
  2. Boris Johnson (Neo Facist Party) 2005-2005
  3. Gordon Brown (The Brown Party) 2005-2005
  4. David Cameron (New Tory Party) 2005-Now
 
Cevolian

Cevolian

natemamate said:
Presidents of America
  1. Joe Pesci/Daniel Stern (Anti Traps Party) 2001-2009
  2. Barack Obama/Joe Biden (Democratic-Republican Party) 2009-2013
  3. Bob Iger/Michael Eisner (Loser Party) 2013-2021
Prime Ministers of Britain
  1. Ricky Gervais (Official Monster Raving Loony Party) 2001-2005
  2. Boris Johnson (Neo Facist Party) 2005-2005
  3. Gordon Brown (The Brown Party) 2005-2005
  4. David Cameron (New Tory Party) 2005-Now
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Is this meant to be some kind of meme? I dont really get it... New Tories are quite capital P Phresh, but BoJo isn't a fascist and the "Anti Traps Party" is a weird reference to have included...
 
Mumby

Mumby

DO YOU LIKE LAZY ANALOGUES

1945-1956: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1945 (Majority) def. Winston Churchill (Conservative), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal)
1950 (Majority) def. Harold Macmillan (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1953 (Majority) def. Rab Butler (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1956-1958: Herbert Morrison (Labour majority)
1958-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Unionist)
1958 (Coalition with Liberals) def. Herbert Morrison (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1963 (Majority) def. George Brown (Labour), Jeanne Hoban (Communist), Jo Grimond (Liberal), Jeffrey Hamm (Union Movement)
1964-1968: Priscilla Buchan (Unionist majority)

In 1945, Attlee just obliterates the Tories at the ballot box, and only loses a few seats in 1950. However, the widening War on Communism begins to grind away at his popularity and after it's discovered there were no nuclear weapons in Red China, his popularity bottoms out. The elderly Morrison takes his place and struggles in the face of an economic crisis and a destabilising East Asia. He loses in 1958 albeit narrowly.

Alec Douglas-Home was perhaps unusual for a Tory leader and adopted much of the Attleeite consensus to achieve victory. Despite predictions he would hold a snap election in 1959 or the government would collapse, Douglas-Home managed to guide the country through some hard years (albeit at costs some would say were too great). In 1963, he won a majority, while the Liberals tarred by the brush of government collapsed for a generation.

In 1962, Douglas-Home passed labour reforms that put workers on boards. The CPGB quickly infiltrated the workers elections and used this a spearhead for success in local government. This quickly translated into success at the ballot box, squeezing Labour out of seats in the North and Midlands as well as old Red Clydeside. The Union Movement, which called for immediate entry into the French led European Defence Conchord and the Coal and European Economic Community, also enjoyed some small successes.

One of Douglas-Home's campaign promises was to hold a referendum on joining the EDC and EEC. It was believed that the 1963 election would produce a hung parliament and this could be negotiated away. As it was, the Tories won a majority and Douglas-Home could not escape his own mandate. He was no Eurosceptic, but he had no desire to tie Britain to the Nationalist Regimes led by the Elysee. Few expected the result that happened. Brentry won by a comfortable margin. Douglas-Home, knowing that entry to the EDC and EEC would be no easy task, especially due to the hostility of Western Europe to Britain, resigned. Britain now has her first female Prime Minister, and she has a lot on her plate...
 
Gonzo

Gonzo

Mumby said:
Jeffrey Hamm (Union Movement)
The Union Movement, which called for immediate entry into the French led European Defence Conchord and the Coal and European Economic Community, also enjoyed some small successes
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I know this is a modern day analogue but the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is still needed for this. (The irony of a pro-EEC UKIP analogue!)
 
Mumby

Mumby

Gonzo said:
I know this is a modern day analogue but the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is still needed for this. (The irony of a pro-EEC UKIP analogue!)
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My idea is that Franco dies shortly before WWII and the Continuity Francoists manage to make detente with France and de Gaulle is displace by an OAS bloke. Suez happens under different circumstances and France carries on anyway. NATO is aborted, replaced by the EDC. So the 'EU' is a military as well as economic alliance and it's members are not really democratic hence why the 'establishment' wants to hold them at arms length. Brentry will be difficult because British membership seems weird to the other members.
 
ersatz-york

ersatz-york

shiftygiant said:
And finally...

Prime Ministers of the United Kingdom
1990-1997: John Major (Conservative)
def. 1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrats)
1997-2004: Tony Blair (Labour)
def. 1997: John Major (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrats)
def. 2001: William Hague (Conservative), Menzies Campbell (Liberal Democrats)
2004-2009: Gordon Brown (Labour)
def. 2006: Tim Yeo (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats)
2009-2011: David Miliband (Labour)
def. 2011 May (Liberal Democrats Supply and Confidence): Tim Collins (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats), Robert Kilroy-Silk (UKIP)
2011-2017: Tim Collins (Conservative)
def. 2011 Dec: David Miliband (Labour), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats), Robert Kilroy-Silk (UKIP)
def. 2016 (DUP Coalition): Jon Cruddas (Labour), Lynne Featherstone (Liberal Democrats), Angela Constance (SNP), Zac Goldsmith (London First!), Paul Nuttal (UKIP)
2017-20??: John Bercow (Conservative)

Presidents of the United States of America
1993-2001: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democratic)
def. 1992: George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (Republican), Ross Perot/John Stockdale (Independent)
def. 1996: Bob Dole/Caroll Campbell (Republican), Ross Perot/Richard Lamm (United We Stand)
2001-2001: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democratic) †
def. 2000: George W. Bush/Jon Danforth (Republican), Richard Lamm/Jesse Ventura (United We Stand)
2001-2005: Joe Lieberman/Zell Miller (Democratic)
2005-2009: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
def. 2004: Wesley Clark/Max Baucus (Democratic), Ron Paul/Various (United We Stand), Dennis Kucinich/Bernie Sanders (Peace)
2009-2017: Tom Daschle/Janet Napolitano (Democratic)
def. 2008: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
def. 2012: Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio (Republican)
2017-20??: Col. Lindsey Graham/Charlie Baker (Republican)
def. 2016: Janet Napolitano/Chris Murphy (Democratic)

I should note that the United States stuff is just kinda, well, eeh, as the only people who are confirmed ITTL are Clinton, Gore, Lieberman, McCain, and Daschle.
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#MakeBorisPresident
 
Mumby

Mumby

Mumby said:
DO YOU LIKE LAZY ANALOGUES

1945-1956: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1945 (Majority) def. Winston Churchill (Conservative), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal)
1950 (Majority) def. Harold Macmillan (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1953 (Majority) def. Rab Butler (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1956-1958: Herbert Morrison (Labour majority)
1958-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Unionist)
1958 (Coalition with Liberals) def. Herbert Morrison (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1963 (Majority) def. George Brown (Labour), Jeanne Hoban (Communist), Jo Grimond (Liberal), Jeffrey Hamm (Union Movement)
1964-1968: Priscilla Buchan (Unionist majority)

In 1945, Attlee just obliterates the Tories at the ballot box, and only loses a few seats in 1950. However, the widening War on Communism begins to grind away at his popularity and after it's discovered there were no nuclear weapons in Red China, his popularity bottoms out. The elderly Morrison takes his place and struggles in the face of an economic crisis and a destabilising East Asia. He loses in 1958 albeit narrowly.

Alec Douglas-Home was perhaps unusual for a Tory leader and adopted much of the Attleeite consensus to achieve victory. Despite predictions he would hold a snap election in 1959 or the government would collapse, Douglas-Home managed to guide the country through some hard years (albeit at costs some would say were too great). In 1963, he won a majority, while the Liberals tarred by the brush of government collapsed for a generation.

In 1962, Douglas-Home passed labour reforms that put workers on boards. The CPGB quickly infiltrated the workers elections and used this a spearhead for success in local government. This quickly translated into success at the ballot box, squeezing Labour out of seats in the North and Midlands as well as old Red Clydeside. The Union Movement, which called for immediate entry into the French led European Defence Conchord and the Coal and European Economic Community, also enjoyed some small successes.

One of Douglas-Home's campaign promises was to hold a referendum on joining the EDC and EEC. It was believed that the 1963 election would produce a hung parliament and this could be negotiated away. As it was, the Tories won a majority and Douglas-Home could not escape his own mandate. He was no Eurosceptic, but he had no desire to tie Britain to the Nationalist Regimes led by the Elysee. Few expected the result that happened. Brentry won by a comfortable margin. Douglas-Home, knowing that entry to the EDC and EEC would be no easy task, especially due to the hostility of Western Europe to Britain, resigned. Britain now has her first female Prime Minister, and she has a lot on her plate...
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Current leaders of the major political parties

Conservative (and Unionist): Priscilla Buchan

Labour: Fenner Brockway [MEADOW PUNCHES ME IN THE OESOPHAGUS UNTIL I CRY]

Liberal: Jeremy Thorpe

Communist: Jeanne Hoban

UMOVE: Tommy Moran
 

Joshua Ben Ari

And now for something completely different: an Israel list.

Prime Ministers
1949-1954: David Ben-Gurion (Mapai)
1954-1959: Moshe Sharett (Mapai)
1959-1964: Pinhas Sapir (Mapai)
1964-1971: Moshe Dayan (Mapai, then Alignment)
1971-1976: Abba Eban (Alignment)
1976-1983: Teddy Kollek (Alignment)
1983-1992: Yitzhak Shamir (Likud)
1992-1995: David Levy (Likud)
1995-1999: Ora Namir (Labor)
1999-2004: Moshe Arens (Likud)
2004-2009: Ophir Pines-Paz (Labor)
2009-2013: Meir Sheetrit (Likud)
2013-2017: Dalia Itzik (Labor)
2017-incumbent: Moshe Kahlon (Likud)

Presidents
1949-1955: Albert Einstein (Independent)
1955-1963: Peretz Bernstein (General Zionists)
1963-1970: Zalman Aran (Mapai)
1970-1976: Pinhas Lavon (Mapai, then Alignment)
1976-1984: Shoshana Arbeli-Almozlino (Alignment)
1984-1991: Yoram Aridor (Likud)
1991-1998: Shlomo Hillel (Alignment)
1998-2005: Natan Sharansky (Likud)
2005-2012: Elie Wiesel (Likud)
2012-incumbent: Meir Shamgar (Independent)
 
shiftygiant

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
glenn67 said:
For a minute, I thought this was a Atlee as Thatcher analogue.
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You gave me an idea. It's kinda shit and I struggled to find an SDP analogy because this was mainly off the cuff, but hey ho;

1945-1952: Clement Attlee (Labour)
def. 1945: Winston Churchill (Conservative), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Ernest Brown (National Liberal)
def. 1950: Anthony Eden (Union), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1952-1957: Anthony Eden (Union)
def. 1952 (Minority): Clement Attlee (Labour), Clement Davies (Liberal)
def. 1952: Clement Attlee (Labour), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1957-1968: Jennie Lee (Labour)
def. 1957: Anthony Eden (Union), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
def. 1961: Peter Thorneycrot (Union), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
def. 1965: Iain Macleod (Union), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
1968-1975: Francis Noel-Baker (Labour)
def. 1970: Iain Macleod (Union), Richard Wainwright (Liberal)
1975-1985: Enoch Powell (Union)
def. 1975: Francis Noel-Baker (Labour), Richard Wainwright (Liberal)
 
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