List Alternate Monarchs

Um, the House of York did win the Wars of the Roses - unless you count that as continued to Henry VII vs. Richard III.

Where are Edward IV and V? Or is this just measuring from Richard III's usurpation on?

I count Henry VII vs. Richard III as continuation. POD is during regin of Richard III-it is why he is first on the list.
 
Elfwine said:
Um, the House of York did win the Wars of the Roses - unless you count that as continued to Henry VII vs. Richard III.
Technically, Henry Tudor rose to oppose Richard III because he was a Lancastrian heir . Besides, I believe most Historians do end the Roses War with the Battle of Bosworth Field.
 
Technically, Henry Tudor rose to oppose Richard III because he was a Lancastrian heir . Besides, I believe most Historians do end the Roses War with the Battle of Bosworth Field.
Which is itself a fairly arbitrary cut-off point, considering the subsequent Yorkist rebellions against Henry...
 
Alternate Kings of Sweden (from Gustav Vasa and on)

House of Vasa

Gustav (1523-1560)
Eric XIV (1560-1577)
John III (1577-1592)
Sigismund (1592-1632)
Ladislaus (1632-1648)
John IV Casimir (1648-1672)
Christina (1672-1689)

House of Palatinate-Zweibrücken

Charles IX (1689-1697)
Charles X (1697-1718)
Ulrica Eleanor (1718-1741)

House of Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov

Peter (1741-1762)

House of Ascania

Catherine I (1762-1796)

House of Holstein-Gottorp-Romanov (Restored)

Paul (1796-1801)
Constantine (1801-1831)
Michael (1831-1849)
Catherine II (1849-1894)

House of Mecklenburg-Strelitz

George I Alexander (1894-1909)
George II (1909-1963)
George III Alexander (1963-1996)
Borwin (1996-present)

A King Borwin!? A Swedish-Russian Union!?!
 
More information for my planned 'Wider Still, And Wider' (or 'Earth-Fred') TL_


Royal Houses of Europe (1913)


Kingdom of Great Britain (includes Gibraltar and also [effectively, & probably soon legally as well] Dunkirk; with its ‘Crown Dependencies’, namely_ Lordship of Mann, Duchy of Normandy [administered as two separate ‘Balliwicks’: Jersey and Guernsey], Lordship of Heligoland); Kingdom of Ireland; Britannic Empire (also relevant for Malta, ‘Minorca & Majorca’, the ‘Ionian Islands’) = House of Osborne*

Empire of Austria = House of Habsburg
Kingdom of Hungary-Croatia = House of Habsburg-Hungary
Kingdom of the Lands of St Wenceslaus = House of Habsburg [“Third branch”]
[The Emperor of Austria is primus inter pares for this trio]

Kingdom of the United Netherlands (including the Grand Duchy of Luxemburg) = House of Orange-Nassau
Kingdom of Denmark-Norway = House of Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg
Principality of Estonia = House of Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg [cadet branch]
Kingdom of Sweden, with Finland = House of Holstein-Augustenburg
Kingdom of Italy = House of Savoy [old ‘main’ branch surviving, not replaced by ‘Savoy-Carignan’ branch as IOTL]
Kingdom of Portugal = House of Braganza
Kingdom of Spain = House of Bourbon-Berwick [civil war in progress vs. republicans]
Kingdom of Greece = Saxe-Coburg [a branch of the House of Wettin]
Kingdom of Jugoslavia = House of Battenberg [with a similar but not identical origin to the OTL family of that name]
Principality of Monaco = House of Grimaldi
Principality of Montenegro = House of Petrovich-Njegosh
Prussia (which is either a Kingdom or [only] a Grand Duchy now, a point about which the diplomats are still negotiating, but in either case has been reduced so far that it consists solely of East Prussia) = Hohenzollern [of the Brandenburg-Prussia branch]

The German League = (the position of ‘Bund-Protector’ is elective, and is currently held by “Augusta II, Prince-Elector of Hanover” [i.e. Queen Augusta II of Great Britain]; most of the states within the League have specific Princes of their own, too)

Regency of Poland = (under discussion _ probably the leading candidate for king, if Britain can be persuaded not to oppose him, is John James Poniatowski-Stuart, the Prince of Fulda, who is descended not only from the country’s last pre-partition king but also from the famous King John Sobieski who led his army to break the Turks’ second siege of Vienna: It’s the fact that that the latter lineage is traced through “Bonnie Prince Charlie” [whose mother was a grand-daughter of King John, and who married at a rather earlier date ITTL than IOTL, and to a Polish noblewoman — from the court of Duke Stanislas of Lorraine — rather than a German one as IOTL] that has the British government slightly concerned)

France (government under rearrangement): monarchist factions = Bourbon-Orleans [‘Egalitéists’], Bourbon-Orleans [‘Legitimists’, or ‘Bourbon-Orleans-Orleans’], Bourbon-Orleans-Berry [‘Vrai-ists’]; imperialist faction = Pichegru

Russia (multi-factional civil war in progress) = ‘Romanov’ [actually Holstein-Gottorp]


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* This dynastic name was proclaimed by Queen Augusta II when she succeeded to the throne in 1908, with the prior approval of her great-aunt & predecessor Queen Augusta I. She made this decision to simplify matters, because although Her Majesty is of Hanoverian ‘Guelph’ lineage through her maternal grandmother (who was Queen Augusta I’s younger sister), her ancestry through [recent] male lines is from the Houses of Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg (via a prince of Denmark) and of Battenberg instead. However her children will still use ‘Guelph’ as their personal surname, not only because of that Hanoverian connection but also because her consort Prince William is himself a Guelph… He is a member of the dynasty’s ‘Brunswick-Heidelberg’ branch [established 1813, by the Congress of Vienna], younger brother to Prince-Elector Frederick of the Rhenish Palatinate.
 
Monarchs of Poland-Lituania. POD: Maximilian Habsburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_III,_Archduke_of_Austria ) became king of Poland instead of Sigismund Vasa.

HOUSE OF HABSBURG:

Maximilian I 1587-1618
Charles I 1619-1650
Maximilian II 1650-1676
Catherine 1677-1699
Ferdinand I 1677-1699 (with Catherine)*
Charles II 1700-1734

HOUSE OF WITTELSBACH:

Philip I 1735-1758**
Charles III 1759-1800
Charles IV 1800-1821
Philip II 1822-1852

HOUSE OF BURBON-ORLEANS:

Philip III 1852-1903***
Charles V 1903-1919
Philip IV 1919-1963
Charles VI 1963-1987
Philip V 1987-2013
Charles VII 2013-


* Archduke of Tirol, husband of Catherine
** nephew of Charles II
*** grandson of Philip II, last elected king

Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was de iure electional monarchy until 1867.
 
List of Monarchs of England:

House of Habsburg
1570-1624: Charles I, II, and VI,

List of Monarchs of England and the Netherlands

1626-1640: Charles II
1640-1652: Henry IX and I
1652-1668: Edward VII and I
1668-1681: Henry X and II
1681-1703: Charles III
1703-I731: Charles IV
1731-1759: Edward VIII
1759-1787: Phillip I
1787-1810 Margaret I

List of Monarchs of England, the Netherlands, and Columbia

1810-1849: Margaret I

House of Habsburg-Oldenburg

1849-1857: Christian I
1857-1875: Charles V
1875-1902: Edward IX
1902-1917: Henry XI
1917-1940: Christian II
1940-1969: Christian III
1969-Present: Eleanor I
 
Alternate List of Popes: No Veto for Rampolla!

1878-1903: His Holiness, Pope Leo XIII (Gioachino Pecci) (Liberal)
1903-1913: His Holiness, Pope Leo XIV (Mariano Rampolla) (Liberal)
1913-1918: His Holiness, Pope Urban IX (Domenico Serafini) (Conservative)
1918-1922: His Holiness, Pope Benedict XV (Giacomo Chiesa) (Liberal-Moderate)
1922-1934: His Holiness, Pope Leo XV (Pietro Gasparri) (Moderate)
1934-1942: His Holiness, Pope Pius X (Alfredo Ildefonso Schuster) (Moderate)

1942-1945: His Holiness, Anti-Pope Adrian VII (Adolf Bertram) (Fascist)

1945-1954: His Holiness, Pope Pius X (Alfredo Ildefonso Schuster) (Moderate)
1954-1967: His Holiness, Pope Pius XI (Ernesto Ruffini) (Moderate)
1967-1978: His Holiness, Pope Paul VI (Giovanni Battista Montini) (Liberal)
1978-1981: His Holiness, Pope Gregory XVI (Giuseppe Siri) (Conservative) - Assassinated
1981-1997: His Holiness, Pope Paul VII (Albino Luciani) (Moderate)
1997-2013: His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI (Joseph Ratzinger) (Conservative)
2013-Present: His Holiness, Pope Leo XVI (Odilo Scherer) (Moderate)
 
Kings of America

House of Washington
George I (1786-1799)
John I (1799-1829)
Henry I (1829-1844)
John II (1844-1866) - Abdicated

House of Adams
Charles I (1866-1886)
Charles II (1886-1915)
Charles III (1915-1954)
Robert I (1954-1971)
Gerald I (1971-2005)
Christopher* I (2005-Present)

* OTL's Chris Christie. Except with a beard. And a crown. :cool:
 
Monarchs of England

The House of Tudor
1485-1509: Henry VII
1509-1550: Henry VIII
1550-1574: Henry IX
1574-1598: Edward VI
1598-1649: Catherine I

House of Tudor-Clarence
1649-1666: Richard IV
1666-1671: Edward VII
War of English Succession, 1671-1683
1683-1711: Catherine II

House of Wittelsbach
1711-1732: Albert I
1732-1768: Albert I
1768-1803: Albert III
1803-1831: Albert IV
1831-1855: Henry X
1855-1888: Eleanor

House of Rhine-Palatine
1888-1902: Edward VIII
1902-1905: Edward IX
1905-1922: Henry XII
1922-1960: Sophia

House of Norfolk
1960-1982: Edward X
1982-1996: Richard V
1996-2010: Henry XII
2010-Present: Catherine III
 
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