What are the consequences if Lionel Duke of Clarence leaves behind a son Lionel bc1363?
Lionel II of Clarence
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Then depending on how things go with Richard, this lad will be the next King, and most likely would prevent Henry Bolingbroke's attempt of usurpation, depending on whether he is in Ireland or not.
As well as what his relationship with Richard is like.
Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence (b.1338: d.1368) m. Elizabeth de Burgh (b.1332: d.1363) (a), Violante Visconti (b.1352: d.1386) (b)
1a) Philippa of Clarence (b.1355) m. Edmund Mortimer, 3rd Earl of March (b.1352: d.1381) (a)
2a) Lionel I of England (b.1363: d.1425) m. Elizabeth of Lancaster (b.1363/1364: d.1426) (a)
1a) Lady Elizabeth Mortimer (b.1371: d.1417)
2a) Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March (b.1374: d.1398)
3a) Lady Philippa Mortimer (b.1375: d.1400)
4a) Sir Edmund Mortimer (b.1376: d.1411)
2a) Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March (b.1374: d.1398)
3a) Lady Philippa Mortimer (b.1375: d.1400)
4a) Sir Edmund Mortimer (b.1376: d.1411)
2a) Lionel I of England (b.1363: d.1425) m. Elizabeth of Lancaster (b.1363/1364: d.1426) (a)
1a) Richard III of England (b.1385) m. Isabella of Valois (b.1389) (a)
2a) Margaret Plantagenet (b.1386: d.1388)
3a) Edmund Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence (b.1388)
4a) Philippa Plantagenet (b.1389: d.1410) m. Edward I of Portugal (b.1391) (a)
5a) Alianore Plantagenet (b.1390: d.1420) m. Arthur III of Brittany (b.1393) (a)
6a) John Plantagenet (b.1391: d.1400)
7a) Anne Plantagenet (b.1395: d.1410)
1a) Lionel Plantagenet, Prince of Wales (b.1413)
2a) Katherine Plantagenet (b.1421)
2a) Katherine Plantagenet (b.1421)
2a) Margaret Plantagenet (b.1386: d.1388)
3a) Edmund Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence (b.1388)
4a) Philippa Plantagenet (b.1389: d.1410) m. Edward I of Portugal (b.1391) (a)
5a) Alianore Plantagenet (b.1390: d.1420) m. Arthur III of Brittany (b.1393) (a)
1a) Nicole of Brittany (b.1414)
2a) Arthur IV of Brittany (b.1419)
2a) Arthur IV of Brittany (b.1419)
6a) John Plantagenet (b.1391: d.1400)
7a) Anne Plantagenet (b.1395: d.1410)
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If Richard even lasts that long.
Istr that in 1386 the Lords Appellant were ready to depose him, but in the end didn't because Thomas of Gloucester made a claim to the throne, which Bolingbroke of course rejected. Lionel II OTOH would have been the undoubted heir to the throne, so if he was in their camp there would be no reason not to go ahead.
Hmm true, though would Richard II not have kept the man close to him, knowing that?
Please can you "explain your work" when posting this sort of thing. Otherwise it comes across a bit spammy!
All I can find is some land around Clare in Suffolk (hence the name Clarence) but I expect it would be miscellaneous bits of Royal Domain rather than more extensive tracts since we have little information to go on.