Line of Secession of a surviving Russian Empire

Zoidberg12

Basically, that's what I'm asking about. There are allot of alternate histories where the Russian Empire survives, but what would the line of secession be after Grand Duke Micheal? From what I now from Wikipedia, there are allot of claimants to the Russian throne, and the whole is so convoluted. :p There are lots of relatives who have or continue to claim the throne. From what I know so far, allot of it has to do with marriages and stuff like that. Heck, even a German royal family (name escapes me), has a claim to the throne through marriage.

But what after Nicholas II's death, and Micheal comes to the throne. Who would rule after him? I no he had a son, but was had no inheritances because his mother was a commoner. Also, Alexander III had two daughters, would they have been able to claim the throne, or were women not permitted to heir the throne? I'm not sure about this considering Catherine the Great, but I'm sure you guys can help me on this. Just Curious.
 

Lord Grattan

Zoidberg12 said:
Basically, that's what I'm asking about. There are allot of alternate histories where the Russian Empire survives, but what would the line of secession be after Grand Duke Micheal? From what I now from Wikipedia, there are allot of claimants to the Russian throne, and the whole is so convoluted. :p There are lots of relatives who have or continue to claim the throne. From what I know so far, allot of it has to do with marriages and stuff like that. Heck, even a German royal family (name escapes me), has a claim to the throne through marriage.

But what after Nicholas II's death, and Micheal comes to the throne. Who would rule after him? I no he had a son, but was had no inheritances because his mother was a commoner. Also, Alexander III had two daughters, would they have been able to claim the throne, or were women not permitted to heir the throne? I'm not sure about this considering Catherine the Great, but I'm sure you guys can help me on this. Just Curious.
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If the 1917 fall of the empire is butterflied away and Nicholas II lives and reigns until he dies, say in the late 1930s, so might is son, Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich, who would become Alexei II. Then, since hemophiliacs can live into adulthood and can father children, perhaps he has a male heir, who would become Tsar at a young age around 1950 when Alexei dies. Additionally, if Nicholas II & Alexandra live, then so do their 5 daughters, and who knows how many boys (hopefully hemophilia-free) they each might have.
 

Emperor Constantine

Well first of Nicholas II's son Alexei would succeed him, assuming he's still alive. There is a chance he could have a kid, after all Queen Victoria's son Leopold,Duke of Albany, had hemophilia and a daughter and son. After him, it would go to Grand Duke Michael then to Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovich, Nicholas's first cousin, his son Vladimir Cyrillovich, then Cyril's brothers Boris and Andrei. After that it would go to the descendents of Alexander II's other sons then the Descendents of Nicholas I's other sons.If the whole male line went extinct then the female line could succeed, like Nicholas II's daughters Olga, Tatiana, Maria and Anastasia. However if Alexei dies without issue,specifically male issue, then I can see Nicholas II changing the line of succession to something like the British line, male preference but females can succeed, with Olga become Empress after him. She would probably marry Grand Duke Dimitri, there was talk of them marrying before the Russian Revolution.
 
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Zoidberg12

LostCosmonaut said:
Line of secession

1. Poland
2. Finland
3. Ukraine

and so on.


I think you meant line of succession. :)
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I did mean that BTW. Stupid Typos. :eek::p

Lord Grattan said:
If the 1917 fall of the empire is butterflied away and Nicholas II lives and reigns until he dies, say in the late 1930s, so might is son, Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich, who would become Alexei II. Then, since hemophiliacs can live into adulthood and can father children, perhaps he has a male heir, who would become Tsar at a young age around 1950 when Alexei dies. Additionally, if Nicholas II & Alexandra live, then so do their 5 daughters, and who knows how many boys (hopefully hemophilia-free) they each might have.
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A good scenario, but what if Alexei doesn't have an heir, or dies dies before his father? :confused:
 

Codae

LostCosmonaut said:
Line of secession

1. Poland
2. Finland
3. Ukraine

and so on.


I think you meant line of succession. :)
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I had this exact thought, except I hadn't thought through it far enough to pick a number 3.

I think the next in line after Nicolas II's descendants and Michael would be this guy [EDIT: just as Emperor Constantine says]. Pauline succession puts all male Romanovs ahead of women and their heirs.
 
Alex Richards

Alex Richards

Donor
The only comment I would make in all of this is as follows:

Mikhail Alexandrovich's morgnatic marriage not only removed all his heirs from the succession, but himself as well.

Now, Nicholas may very well still leave the throne to Mikhail even without the rather strained situation of the war and so forth, but the war also did a lot to rehabilitate Mikhail in Nicholas' opinion.
 

Zoidberg12

The Kiat said:
Just goes to show how much altering a single letter can do. Mixing up the words in a written format is an understandable mistake. Doing so verbally... well...
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Exactly it was just a typo. If a mod could fix it to cease further confusion it would be much appreciated. :D
 
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