let's say world war 1 ends without any said really winning.

I agree that Germany intervenes in the Russian Civil War. I think Corporal Hitler just stay in the much larger German Army.
 
What exactly would a war without a winner be? Even a negotiated peace would have a winner. Germany getting to dominate Eastern Europe would give the Germans much more than the French, Belgians and Britons would get from annexing Germany's colonies.

If you mean 10s of millions of recalcitrant slavs who want nothing to do with being run form Berlin then yeah, they will get more all right. How long before all the manufacturing jobs move to Poland in this scenario?
 
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hi i'm back....so i see you are still fighting over What exactly would a war without a winner be?.......... so every one is looking at germany because you are thinking that that was the decisive front..... well if AH wood manege to push italy furder in 1917 miracle ....let's say taking venice sooooo then the anti war protests in italy that were happening at that time wood get louder and louder every day soooo with italy suing for peace AH and germany wood probably most definitely go to status quo with italy....... SOOO BUM there you have one of the best PODs because with italy gone AH sends troops to the balkans with more germans as well they are bound to end up in a stalemate but this time germans and AH wood last at least until 1919 and by then people all over europe no matter what wood diamond peace..........HAAAAAAAAAAAA :p
 

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If you mean 10s of millions of recalcitrant slavs who want nothing to do with being run form Berlin then yeah, they will get more all right. How long before all the manufacturing jobs move to Poland in this scenario?
Well, the German long time strategy for the Bretsk- Litovsk areas were setting up satellite states (at least Lithuania, the Baltic Duchy and Ukraine. Poland will always mean headache. Germany can't let Polan exist, but neither do they want to annex it, meaning they have no idea what to do with it).
 
Well, the German long time strategy for the Bretsk- Litovsk areas were setting up satellite states (at least Lithuania, the Baltic Duchy and Ukraine. Poland will always mean headache. Germany can't let Polan exist, but neither do they want to annex it, meaning they have no idea what to do with it).
yeeeeee NO! that is NAZI GERMANY and germany before 1919 wood most definitely let poland exist....... do research you will see
 
Idk, Hitler came to power under a very specific set of circumstances which I don't think exist in this stalemate scenario. However I have a feeling another war would be inevitable especially if both Germany and France feel like they have "unfinished business". As for AH, I think their days were numbered win or lose.

In ttl's Beer Hall Putsch, a man who can afford to waste a large stein hurls it at young Hitler, landing square on his noggin and knocking the prick right out.
 
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