Let Them Talk: A TLIAW

The Obligatory Talking-Heads Section


What's this, then?

A TLIAW. Like it says.

But your timekeeping is ruddy awful.

I know. But I'm really going to try this time.

You said that last time.

This time I mean it.

You'll mean it next time, too. Still won't happen.

Remind me why I'm sticking to this convention?

Because you're not very original. Or something to do with headmates, perhaps.

Don't start that.

Fine, which TL is this? You keep hinting at half a dozen.

This one is looking at the butterfly effect. How a small change in one person's life can make changes in the wider world, yet also how many things can remain the same.

What, like a Prince of Wales laughing when his father trips, or commuters watching hanging on the *iPlayer?

No, because Thande has done them, and done it better.

That's my point.

This is much narrower.

Less well researched, you mean?

Well, yeah, but I think it's original, so I'm going with it.

Is this another "and then the Prime Minister was actually a Werewolf?" Twist ending?

No. I want to stop doing that, but it might take a couple of updates before I reveal who he is. Without any further adieu, let's begin.
 
Let Them Talk: A TLIAW

The one where the scene is set


August 2008, London Heathrow Airport

“As I stand before you today, I feel a huge amount of pride, and am unapologetic in admitting to a large helping of jealousy too. To represent the United Kingdom in the Olympic Games is a huge honour, and a one you all thoroughly deserve. I know just how much hard work you put in to get there, and how hard you will work to do your utmost in Sydney. I have every faith that some of you men and women will have the awesome privilege to stand at the top of that podium, hearing the national anthem of our country played in front of an Aussie crowd that would probably prefer to listen to any anthem – even the Kiwi one – than God Save the Queen.

Before the Foreign Secretary has a nervous breakdown, I shall point out that I am speaking entirely in jest. The Olympian ideal is to be the best you can be, and the event aims to celebrate the pinnacle of human achievement. If your best happens to be enough to upset an Australian or two, that’s merely a bonus! [Pauses for laughter] I’m afraid I am under strict instructions not to make this party political, hence my cringe-worthy jokes that are giving the Foreign Office palpitations. This is a time for the whole nation to band together behind our greatest sportsmen, who are carrying the hopes, dreams, and nostalgic of all of us with them. At the same time, I am aware that I should not be revelling in my own past glories. Some of you athletes weren’t even alive when I won my own medal in Los Angeles. In fact, a select few may not have been born when I won my second in Seoul. That’s a sobering thought.

Enough from this old fool! The world belongs to the young. Even Old Man Redgrave has finally retired for good. To the people who are destined to become the sporting heroes of schoolchildren all over the nation, and possibly the world. For those of you lucky enough to be going to your first Olympics, I advise you to enjoy it. There is nothing better. For those looking at yet another Games, and pondering what happens next, then I stand as proof that an ex-athlete is capable of anything. Then again, if any of you do have designs on Number 10, I should tell you that the press are even nastier to me when I gain a bit of weight than my trainers were. I promised to keep this short, and so I shall. The whole of the country was overwhelmed by the wonderful performance of the men and women of Team UK in Chicago four years ago, may you go on to even greater successes Down Under. We are all behind you, literally, in the case of our wonderful sprinters.

Good luck in Sydney, to all of our Olympians and Paralympians. I have every belief that you will do us proud. Moreover: health, fitness, and in my case, electorate willing, we’ll do this all again in four year’s time here in London!”
 
Interesting. Lets see where this goes.
Thank you. I hope this will keep you entertained.
Is that Prime Minister Seb Coe?
In OTL, Sebastian Coe won his second medal in Los Angeles, and the first in Moscow. It's not him, but it is the most likely assumption.

EDIT: If you don't want to wait a couple more updates for the answer (I'm not keeping him secret until the last post, I promise) Le Politbrit Honorarie @Redolegna has actually nailed it after one update. Much kudos to him. If you're content waiting, he's spoilered it, because he's a canny lad.
 
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This sounds like Boris is talking. So of course it's going to be Hugh Laurie as Mayor of London who did not have mono and won medals in rowing?
 
I'm intrigued as to when the PoD is. Certainly it is by 1993 to have the Olympics go somewhere other than Sydney in 2000. It is presumably pre-Atlanta decision too, as I doubt there would have been a US Olympics in 1996 and 2008 both.

I am intrigued.
 
I'm intrigued as to when the PoD is. Certainly it is by 1993 to have the Olympics go somewhere other than Sydney in 2000. It is presumably pre-Atlanta decision too, as I doubt there would have been a US Olympics in 1996 and 2008 both.

I am intrigued.
I'm glad somebody picked up on that. I've sketched out a list of where all the Olympic Games are awarded to in this TL. You are correct that 1996 does not take place in Atlanta. That's all I'm saying for now. I want to try my hand at building this little alternate world, and revealing things organically. It's an attempt to see if I can avoid falling into "as you know, Bob", and spinning out a basic idea beyond a one-shot vignette.
 
Hmm. That puts the PoD at some point before 1990 then, but after 1981 when Seoul was selected. Brisbane 92/Sydney 08 sounds like another definite no-no, As is Birmingham 92/London 2012 I'd have thought, so it seems reasonable that Barcelona still hosts in 1992 (potentially even if the PoD was slightly before the selection in 1986). Melbourne is a definite no for 1996, so I'm going to guess that the Toronto bid was successful instead, though that would be a very close run thing with Athens I think. 2000 OTL was very close between Sydney and Beijing, so there's potentially a straight swap going on there. 2004 seems to be the interesting one. I think if Athens wins in 1996, then it would probably be Rome, if Toronto in 1996, Athens probably manages to get it in 2004 though. Although Toronto wouldn't be as highly commercialised which might mean less of a need to 'restore the Olympic Values' so Rome could still take it.
 
Just a quick message to the handful reading this: I was out from 0500-2300 yesterday, hence no update. Should be able to crank one out this evening, albeit later rather than sooner.

To try and "do" the TLIAW in the spirit of the idea, I've got notes and the odd snatch of writing, but no actual pre-prepared updates.
 
The one with the back story, and enough hints to identify the character


December 1996 Interview Transcript:

“You famously once declared that you ended up in politics by accident. Is this more than just a pithy soundbite?”

“Good Lord yes. Much more. To be honest, I don’t think it’s an uncommon phenomenon.”

“Really? The House is full of accidental MPs?”

“Ah, I can understand your disbelief. We appear to be talking at crossed purposes. Accidental MPs, as you put it, are very thin on the ground. Accidental politicians, however, are far more common. All you need is an issue. One that you care enough about that you can’t let it stand. A new bypass; the poor state of housing; the attempted closure of the Police Station: any campaign could see you making leaflets, organising meetings, boring your friends and family to tears. In some cases, it stays as a campaign. Other poor souls end up getting really political, party political. And then the next thing you know, you’re knocking on doors, introducing yourself as the Labour Party’s candidate in the upcoming election. All it needs is the right spark.”

“And your campaign was A Sporting Chance?”

“Well, in very simplistic terms, yes. In reality, it was inequality and hypocrisy, but I suppose it first manifested itself in my mind through the sport in schools.”

“So until that point, there was no political ambition?”

“Well, to be perfectly honest, I hadn’t really given much thought to life after rowing until after the ‘87 World Championships. The Olympics was going to be the finish. At that stage, having a lie in was the main thought. No more five o’clock starts. No more watching the frost make patterns on my fingers, and no more staring at Steve’s back. Beyond that? The plan was to have a nice holiday, eat and drink far too much, and fool about on Question of Sport.”

“By the time you did retire, things had changed, though?”

“Not quite. I did all that too. Larking about with Botham and Beaumont was glorious, and I devoted more time to my music than I had for years, but I was being praised as a role model. A figure of aspiration and inspiration.”

“So you decided to live up to that ideal.”

“Heavens no. It’s bad enough that I was a role model at all, for making a boat go through the water slightly faster than other boats. It would be even worse if I became somebody I’m not, in order to persuade others to do that too.”

“Why the change in direction, then?”

“It wasn’t a change in direction. A Sporting Chance was always the plan, even if it grew much bigger than I expected. However, was unbelievably lucky to have the opportunities I’ve had in life, and it was unrealistic to hold me up as an example to others.”


“So it was all luck?”

“Of course not. I’d be insulting myself and all those I worked with if I didn’t admit that I worked incredibly hard to win two Olympic golds, one Commonwealth Gold and two World Championships. But many others with the same aptitude, and the same work ethic would never have got near those boats. The opportunities simply weren’t there.”

“So you went on a crusade to get kids from council estates rowing?”

“Well, that was the headline, but it’s all part of a wider issue. The kid from the sink estate may be the best undiscovered archer, fencer, or pole vaulter the world has ever seen. Or maybe she’s got the potential to become lead violin in a symphony orchestra, or have her work hanging in the world’s leading galleries. But they’ll never know. Rowing was merely what I was known for, so it was my foot in the door.”


“Why didn’t you just do some workshops, or training camps?”

“Because it was such a big problem. I couldn’t fix it by dropping into a Merseyside Comprehensive for a couple of hours, and taking them down to the local lake. Moreover, I was being used as a poster child that the system worked. Taking part in it accepted such a view.”


“And you didn’t.”

“No. It worked for the likes of me. But I was the son of a Cambridge Graduate, Olympian and Doctor. I went to Eton, then onto Cambridge myself. Had I not had success on the water, I likely could have fallen onto something else. Even if I’d been a complete dunderhead, I would have had contacts: friends of the family and social acquaintances that could have given me a job on a nod and a wink. Had I grown up to be an empty headed buffoon, I would have had more chance of success than a bright kid from the Gorbals.”


“So A Sporting Chance was born?”

“Yes. As I’ve said, after Copenhagen, and the MBEs, the idea was born. By the summer of 1989, I’d started in earnest, and those all important contacts let me expand it into the arts and music.”

“So when did things become overtly political?”

“Well, it’s often difficult to pinpoint these things, but by the end of 1990, I was unavoidably political. I did my best to keep the charity and party politics separate, but it was difficult. My paltry efforts were rearranging deckchairs. Schools were spending less and less time on PE, and literally thousands of playing fields were being sold off. The Conservative government were talking about how everybody could succeed, if only they worked hard enough, while pulling the rug out from under the people who had the least chance, however hard they worked.”

“So you joined the Labour Party?”

“No. I had joined while at Cambridge. I merely became more involved, and more overt.”

“Being a surprise guest speaker at the 1991 Labour Party Conference was pretty overt.”

“Well, it sounds predestined in hindsight, but really, I was speaking to an Education sub-meeting. No five minute standing ovations for me. The room was so small, I don’t think we could have all stood at once.”

“Nevertheless, it was widely reported.”

“Indeed. That was when I stepped back from the day to day operations of A Sporting Chance, to avoid it looking too much like a Labour group, but I still supported it as much as I could. This was when I began writing letters to newspapers, dropping Question of Sport in favour of Question Time, and accepting any interview that came my way.”

“Something you’ve continued since becoming the MP for Hemsworth?”

“Well, I’m slightly more discerning in who I’ll be interviewed by now. I did really talk to anybody who would listen back then. However, I like to think that I’ve kept fighting the good fight. Obviously, I now spend quite a bit of time fighting for my little adopted corner of West Yorkshire specifically, but rowing did do one good thing: getting up at five in the morning means you’ve got a lot of time to get things done.”

“Well, if the election in May goes as predicted, you might be busier than ever...”

“If we do manage to replace this tired, shambling remains of a government, I suspect I’ll be working harder than ever before.”

“Is this a suggestion that you’re going to be given a Ministerial appointment.”

“Ha. You’ll have to try harder than that.”

"Oh well, it was worth a try. Lastly, can you see any more Olympians entering Parliament? Anybody who won in Athens?"

"Well, I couldn't possibly speculate, about future MPs, but Ming Campbell beat me onto the green benches by a few years. Even now, he can dash through the division doors faster than most..."


 
So it's a rower (is that even the word? It sounds off). That takes this from hard to impossible for me to guess I'm afraid, but I'm still going to keep reading and enjoying it.
 
If our mystery man is MP for Hemsworth from 1992, presumably Buckley's death got postponed and Enright's somewhere else entirely. But what of Jon Trickett?
 
If our mystery man is MP for Hemsworth from 1992, presumably Buckley's death got postponed and Enright's somewhere else entirely. But what of Jon Trickett?
Enright will be mentioned, as will Buckley, for obvious reasons. I'm still thinking about Trickett. As said, this is not all planned out,* but I will endeavour to answer all questions by the end.

*Literally, when I put the Heathrow speech up, all I had was the first line of the next update, and a list of Olympic host cities. I'm making more notes on the phone while out on deliveries, though.
 

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So it's a rower (is that even the word? It sounds off). That takes this from hard to impossible for me to guess I'm afraid, but I'm still going to keep reading and enjoying it.
There's a spoiler that gives it away. Yeah, it's outside of my knowledge too. But I'm enjoying him as an MP
 
The one where the cat leaps out of the bag



Laurie for PM? My First Impressions


When I first met the man who was looking to replace George Buckley as MP for Hemsworth, in the first week of 1992, I was determined not to like him. I had the first draft of my column written before I had even met the man. A seat that had seen the popular Alec Woodall forced out due to his differences with Arthur Scargill was, five years later, being taken over by Kinnock’s London Mafia, with an Old Etonian sportsman being imposed from on high. Half a dozen local candidates, many with a long history in the Trades Union movement, were being passed over for a public schoolboy with a sudden interest in politics. The idea that the working people of Featherstone were being represented by the son of a Cambridge educated doctor was farcical. I was going to tell the world just how farcical the idea was.

And then I met Jim Laurie. Despite the biting cold, he insisted on meeting my train at Wakefield Westgate Station on foot, saying he would not hear of the “grotesque chaos of a Labour candidate, a Labour candidate, sending a taxi to pick up a Yorkshire Post journalist from the station.” This line, delivered in an unsettlingly accurate impression of Neil Kinnock, had me roaring with laughter before I’d left the platform. A short while later, I found myself in a hotel bar with Laurie and his Electoral Agent, Mr Derek Enright. Enright himself was rumoured to be a possible replacement for Buckley, until the spat with the more militant sections of the Yorkshire area of the NUM became quite so toxic. If he had entered the Commons, the press would not have known what to make of a proud working class Yorkshireman quoting Livy and Cicero, as well as Lennon and McCartney, all in flawless Latin. Instead, they got Laurie.

As I sat there, I got a glimpse of the man we have all become familiar with over the last twelve years. Armed with bags of charm, and a self deprecating humour, Laurie managed to put me at ease alarmingly quickly, and often had the majority of the bar laughing at his jokes. At the same time, his passion, his earnestness, and his desire to work for Hemsworth was infectious. Over the previous six months, Laurie had been spending nights at a time on the camp bed in Enright’s spare bedroom, getting to know the area. He spoke with confidence on the challenges facing the community, and the hardships suffered by the constituents. Having very little time for sport, I had no real impression of Jim Laurie. I had expected a stockbroker crossed with Bertie Wooster. My colleagues had suggested that he was more likely to be a snake oil salesmen, all style, and no substance. Neither opinion was in any way close.

He had genned up on the area, and the problems it was facing to an admirable degree already, and still had five more months to add to his armoury. By the time of the election, some claim that the Hardcore Scargillite ‘Independent Labour’ candidate was facing more questions about being a Trot from Bradford than Laurie was about his own background. While this is likely over-egging the pudding, Laurie did prove incredibly effective at answering the charges levelled at him. His very background was proof, he said, that the right name, the right accent, and the right school still mattered. He knew that patronage and money still mattered more than merit, and he knew just how insidious it was. If you wanted to dig such a thing out, you had to understand how deep the roots went. He knew. His life was testament to that. Moreover, he was incredibly well versed in Labour tradition and history. At one hustings, an opponent criticised his university education as antithetical to what Labour stood for. After asking if he should have slummed at that, and I quote "complete dump" Oxford, with Atlee and Wilson, he countered more seriously with the argument that Labour wanted anybody capable of success to be able to go to Cambridge, rather than preventing anybody at all from going. "What sort of equality do we win by stopping the next Atlee from joining Labour, simply because he went to the wrong college? That is Toryism done backwards. Labour should not be the opposite of the Tories. It should be better than them."

By the time the election came, a combination of tribalism, Laurie’s effective communication, and the support of both Enright and the increasingly frail George Buckley convinced the electorate of Hemsworth. Scargill’s man got just over two thousand, and Laurie finished just under 20,000 votes ahead of his nearest challenger. The count would have been relegated to the briefest of footnotes, were it not for a video camera catching Enright heckling the Scargillites in song. His Latin rendition of “Get Back” is still inexplicably popular on internet video sites. Since then, Laurie has become ever more part of the seat, and has refused to let first wider party responsibilities from preventing his work in West Yorkshire to go unattended. Now, he is being tipped for the highest office in the land, there is some disquiet in Laurie’s constituency. For some, there is a fear that Laurie will forget about them, that they’ll ‘lose’ him, back to the South, to the background from which he came. Others, however, seem to have a deep sense of pride. Just as Laurie has adopted Hemsworth, so it has adopted him. As one elderly gentleman in South Kirkby told me last week. “Ah reckon he’s one of us now. He’ll do well in That London if they give him the job. If he were any good at cricket, we might consider him for Yorkshire in a few more year.” Surely, there’s no better signed that you’re accepted.

Ever since he walked away from rowing after Seoul, James Hugh Calum Laurie has confounded expectations. He still does mine. I expected him to go beyond Hemsworth, but Foreign Secretary would have felt like something of a stretch, let alone Number 10.

As for that first draft? I still have it, but I’ve never looked at it since I put it in a drawer in 1992, and began to write a whole new article.

For the benefit of readers, that 'new article' from 1992 is published verbatim opposite.



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Is this the face of our next Prime Minister? Jim Laurie at a recent Foreign Office Bash
 
As @Redolegna correctly guessed, our PoD is in 1980 or 1981, when a Cambridge student and gifted rower came down with a case of Glandular Fever, and had to drop out of the Cambridge First Eight. In his boredom, he ended up auditioning for the footlights, and we ended up with the Hugh Laurie of OTL. In this TL, he never contracts the illness. Maybe he doesn't go to a certain party, or maybe he washes his cups out more thoroughly after having a friend over for a drink. Whatever the reason, a healthy Laurie competes in the 1981 Oxford Cambridge Boat Race as well as the 1980 one, and keeps on rowing at Olympic standard. A decade later, he's entering parliament, and another decade after that, he's in the Cabinet.
 
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