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Does America enter WWI?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 71.4%
  • No

    Votes: 8 28.6%

  • Total voters
    28
  • Poll closed .
Without Hamilton IOTL I do not believe Custer would have received such a nickname here. :p And it's interesting to see that Custer survives ITTL, I might've missed it earlier but there we go.



I never actually realized how well these two flags mesh together until now. They should keep it that way going forward.


(Sidenote, in East Asian cultures such as in China, Korea, and Japan, the family name comes first in order, for instance "Mao Tse-tung", in which the family name is Mao. Therefore, Sun Yat-sen would be referred to as "Sun", rather than "Yat-sen". (Think of how awkward and confusing it would be if the 35th President of the United States was just referred to in a history book as John, rather than John Kennedy. Just something of a quick reminder if you wish to fix it.))

I never really mentioned too much about the Indian Wars, so the Custer boys never came up.

That will be the permanent flag of China (spoilers as to who wins the Civil War, lol)

The Custer in question is not George but Boston, so yeah.

Marc A

Yep, the whole family is different ITTL.
 
Chapter 21: The Presidency of Pierre Beauregard III , the Central American Wars, and the Haiti Filibuster
Chapter 21: The Presidency of Pierre Beauregard III , the Central American Wars, and the Haiti Filibuster

In 1920, the nation received an electoral shock. For the first time since the Civil War, the American population elected a Southerner to the Presidency, and he was a conservative Democrat to boot. Pierre Beauregard III was the scion of an old Louisiana planter clan, and the grandson of Confederate general P.G.T. Beauregard. When his Republican opponent Calvin Coolidge attacked his grandfather, Beauregard famously replied "Sir, the last time I read a history book, it said the Civil War ended April 9th, 1865 at Appomattox Courthouse. Let us not try to rekindle a war that our country has already won." Promising lower taxes, a strong military, and vowing to "keep America from drowning under waves of foreigners," Beauregard was the perfect candidate for a country that wanted to get rich, stay safe, and stay away from foreign affairs (particularly European affairs). However, the supposed desire for isolationism didn't stop America from annexing some new territories in the Americas....

The start of this new wave of American expansionism was the 1922 Haiti Filibuster. Unemployed African-American WWI vets banded together to overthrow the unstable regime in Haiti (that was essentially fighting a civil war) and spread the "light of American civilization to our Negro brothers." Their filibuster was remarkably like the Jamican Incident in many ways. However, since Haiti was a poor country, and not a colony of a vast empire, it was much easier for the filibusters to succeed. The "Negro American Expansion Society," as the group called itself, sent 3500 heavily armed filibusters into Haiti from American Hispaniola (the former Domincan Republic) in March. By August, the country was under their control. A provisional republic was established, and annexation was formalized on June 12th, 1923. This sparked a wave of expansion that would last through Beauregard's second term...

In 1924, Beauregard stormed to a second term. The economy was booming, America was expanding, and taxes had been cut. In 1924, he also signed the Immigration Quota Act, restricting immigration from every nation on Earth (though some were more restricted than others). His second term would also be defined by the so called "Banana Wars," which saw America annex several parts of Central America...

In the period from 1924-1928, the US invaded and annexed Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, and Guatemala. The pattern was the same for every invasion. A period of unrest (Central America had become increasingly unstable) threatened American political and business interests. The US would send in troops to protect their interests. After continued unrest, the Americans would declare that "in order to protect the dignity of the native peoples and spread liberty" the United States would have to take control of the region "indefinitely." Although there was plenty of violent resistance, a massive propaganda campaign combined with the possibility of economic advancement enticed many others into accepting their new place as an American territory.

These new territories had a massive impact on American culture and society. Anti-Catholicism declined in the face of the overwhelmingly Catholic additions to America. Latin music became very popular, and the addition of Central America led directly to the formation of the New Salsa style of music. Most importantly, it furthered America's belief in Manifest Destiny, as American innovations transformed Central American life, usually for the better. After all, if the Central Americans could be transformed by American civilization, why couldn't the rest of the world?

When Beauregard stepped down in 1928, to be replaced by extremely pro-business Herbert Hoover, America seemed to be doing better than ever. However, in the span of a year, the Roaring Twenties would end with a crash....

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President Beauregard in a campaign photo shoot

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American troops in Honduras

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African Americans filibustering in Haiti

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The popular, Guatemalan born, New Salsa band "The Latin Kings"

 
I wonder how the relationship between KMT and CCP (if it still comes to power ITTL) will be ITTL.

The CCP is getting butterflied.

or maybe you are just tricking us with this in one of two ways. The KMT is not like the KMT of OTL or the flag just doesn't change

There are differences between TTL's KMT and OTL's KMT (less authoritarian), but for the most part everything will be similar. The flag will be the same too
 
I am a bit surprised America tried nothing to increase chances of rebellion in india, i rather love to see how india reacts without Gandhi, Maybe bose and radical among congress will stir india towards independence in a different way?
 
Only in a few timelines Costa Rica is annexed to the United States. Costa Rica was stable from 1919 until the civil war of '48.
 
If it does it will be under the glorious Stars and Stripes.

I doubt it. The United States really doesn't want to swallow up too many lands that its population can't handle; besides, it's only interested in former British, Spanish, and French colonies in the Caribbean as well as much of Central and South America. After that, the Manifest Destiny ends and the U.S. winds up looking like a fat guy who just had a massive Thanksgiving dinner, full and happy.

If you're looking for a timeline where the U.S. really does take over the entire world, read What Madness Is This?. But be forewarned: if you see the Stars and Stripes that belong to the NUSA, you'd better run like hell.
 
Chapter 22: The Wall Street Crash and Aftermath
Chapter 22: The Wall Street Crash and Aftermath

On October 23rd, 1929, the American stock market endured the worst crash in its history. This so called "Black Wednesday" saw the Dow Jones lose 15% of its trading value in one day. The next day would see it lose another 10%. Panic gripped the markets, both in America and abroad. Massive bank runs began in early 1930 and would continue throughout the early part of the decade....

Predictably, this led to a spiral of bankruptcies. Factories and farms collapsed from sea to shining sea. Unemployment skyrocketed, and bread lines formed across America. Formerly wealthy and middle class people were forced to sell cars, radios, newfangled appliances, and jewelry, among other valuables. People were getting desperate...

The Hoover Administration did little to help. President Hoover believed that government intervention would hurt the economy. Instead, he took limited actions to aid farmers, and tried to strike up an optimistic face, insisting that "Prosperity is on its way." This did nothing to win him favor with the public. The Bonus Army Incident, where Hoover dispatched the US Army to force an "army" of WWI veterans demanding immediate payment of their bonuses to disperse, made things even worse for the beleaguered President. Americans were enraged by his "flagrant disregard for the troops," and many demanded he resign. The 1932 Election saw Hoover get thrashed by another Roosevelt....

Overseas, the Crash hurt many nations even worse than America. Most notable among these, were the UK, France, and Austria-Hungary. Austria-Hungary had been on its last legs for over a decade, as ethnic violence and nationalism ripped the nation apart throughout the 20's. Germany constantly intervened in the country throughout the decade, and by 1929, the country was a shell being propped up by German forces. The Crash spelled the beginning of the end, and the nation would break apart in 1933. Germany would use its immense power to reshape the entire region...

Britain and France had also suffered throughout the 1920's. The Irish War for Independence, reparations, populist anger, and economic stagnation had plagued the defeated Entente powers. Things had started turning around towards the middle part of the decade, but the Crash shattered this weak recovery. Hyperinflation plagued Britain, and it became cheaper to burn money than firewood. The streets were filled with clashing political parties, as Communists, Theocrats, and the new far-right Unitists violently battled for dominance. The Unitists would win this struggle....

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A Pittsburgh newspaper detailing the market's dizzying collapse

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Members of the Bonus Army clashing with police

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A bread line outside Detroit

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British soldiers deployed to contain unrest in Liverpool
 
Only in a few timelines Costa Rica is annexed to the United States. Costa Rica was stable from 1919 until the civil war of '48.

Hmm. I have ideas now...

I doubt it. The United States really doesn't want to swallow up too many lands that its population can't handle; besides, it's only interested in former British, Spanish, and French colonies in the Caribbean as well as much of Central and South America. After that, the Manifest Destiny ends and the U.S. winds up looking like a fat guy who just had a massive Thanksgiving dinner, full and happy.

If you're looking for a timeline where the U.S. really does take over the entire world, read What Madness Is This?. But be forewarned: if you see the Stars and Stripes that belong to the NUSA, you'd better run like hell.

This is pretty true. The US won't rule the world at the end of TTL, but it will definitely have a globe straddling hegemony that's more epic than anything OTL.

Hey now, that's not entirely true! If you're blonde haired, blue eyed, nominally Protestant, and utterly psychopathic, NUSA was amazing! x'D


I have honestly thought about doing an ASB TL that's a history of Futurama Earth. It would be utterly ridiculous, but I think it could be hilarious!
 
What became of Yuan Shikai ITTL?

I imagine he lost the struggle for power, and was either relegated to a lesser position or exiled.

Not like communist guerrillas would be backed by Russian theocrats, amirite?



Mr. Finch, is that you?

Awesome update as usual. Herbert Hoover can't get a break with the Great Depression, can't he?

Nope, no commie Chinese here, lol.

It is indeed Mr. Finch!

Nope, Hoover never can catch a break, the poor fella.

They'd be more likely to back Qing Restorationists.

This would be interesting

I am a bit surprised America tried nothing to increase chances of rebellion in india, i rather love to see how india reacts without Gandhi, Maybe bose and radical among congress will stir india towards independence in a different way?

The Americans didn't mess around in India because they didn't want to antagonize the increasingly aggressive British. India will feature heavily into the next chapter (focusing on the rise of Unitism around the world).
 
Chapter 23: The Rise of Unitism
This will probably be long. It's describing the rise of alt-fascism and its derivative ideologies, as well as the unique flavor each nation is adding to it.

Chapter 23: The Rise of Unitism

To understand the rise of Unitism, it is important to understand the countries where this ideology took hold. Britain, France, Spain, Serbia, Greece, Portugal, and Japan all fell to Unitism and its derivatives. But what is Unitism?

Proto-Unitism, or the archetype of the ideology, arose out of the ashes of WWI, and is defined by a few things. The most obvious is an obsession with national unity under a strong man leader. National unity is defined not just in ideological terms, but also cultural/ethnic terms, as everyone who belongs to a certain culture or ethnicity should be united into "one Fatherland." The next key attribute is a cult of power and strength. The weak of the world are nothing but worthless parasites, and deserve oppression or annihilation. The third common attribute was a cult of national greatness and mythology. Every Unitist regime reached into the past to find a mythic "Golden Age" where their people were uniquely powerful and righteous. Finally, Unitism was explicitly religious. In Catholic nations, a popular saying was a variation of "God in Heaven, the Father in Rome, the Leader in (insert capital)." In Japan, Shintoism was heavily used by Unitist military officers. This obviously enraged countries who shared these religions, who claimed (rather accurately) that the Unitists were bastardizing religion for political purposes. Nonetheless, the Unitists often received widespread support from the clergy of their own nations....

In France, the nation fell to the "French Unitist Action Party," under the command of WWI hero Maurice Pujo. Pujo was a charismatic figure, who promised France a "national renewal" and to spread the "glory of French culture" across the world. His regime was an explicit Bonapartist revival, and used Napoleon's eagle motif everywhere. The Napoleonic era, according to Pujo, was the only time in French history that the nation took its "rightful place" as master of Europe and the world. Another key attribute of French Unitism was its lack of racism compared to most other movements. The movement was cultural, not racial, and as long as someone learned French, adopted Catholicism, and generally assimilated to French culture, "it matters not whether they be a Negro, a North African, or a White." This caused tension with their fellow Unitists...

Portugal was a Unitist power along French lines. In 1932, the rather unique "Natural Portugal Movement" took over under the control of Oscar Salazar. The Age of Discovery was celebrated as the origin of "Portugal's unique greatness." However, what sets Portugal apart was its attitude towards the colonies. According to the Movement, the Portuguese were the world's best colonizers because their mix of cultures, and the climate they originated from made them more adaptable and friendly towards native peoples. The movement was explicitly pro-miscengation, encouraging Portuguese men to marry women in the colonies. This sparked an uproar across the world, but ultimately, no one did anything more than crack crude jokes...

In Spain, the authoritarian Falange under Fransisco Franco established itself in power after a bloody civil war. Promising that Spain would "revive the glory of the Golden Age," when Spain's colonial empire dominated the Americas, the Falange made revanchist demands on much of America's colonial empire, which was comprised of former Spanish territory. Eyewitnesses in the States remember that when news of these demands reached the Homeland, "you could tell where the newspaper stands were because people were laughing at the Spanish so hard, you could hear it a street away." Closer to home, Franco began crushing Basque and Catalan culture to prevent separatism....

In Serbia, Unitism took power under the totalitarian "Serbian Unitist Committee," led by Dimitrije Ljotic. The Committee looked to the medieval Serbian Empire as their period of "rightful national splendor," and were violently committed to forming "Greater Serbia," and ethnically cleansing those that were considered undesirable....

The Greeks fell to Unitism in 1931, with the backing of the Greek Monarchy. Greek general Ionnia Mextas promised a revival of "Byzantine, Hellenic, and Ancient greatness." Greek and Hellenic culture would be revived by the formation of "Greater Greece," after all areas colonized by ethnic Greeks "rejoined the Fatherland." From there, Orthodox Christianity, "Hellenic Values," and the power of the Greek nation would spread across Europe...

Britain would be unique among the Unitist powers for several reasons. First of all, it can be accurately claimed that Britain gradually slipped under the ideology's sway, over the period from 1918-31, rather than suddenly succumbing to the ideology like others. This is due to a variety of reasons. The shock of the World War and Britain's defeat nearly shattered the Nation and Empire. The 1919 India Rising did little to help. In the aftermath of the Armistar Massacre, where British authorities opened fire on protesting Indians, killing 125, the subcontinent exploded into unrest. Thousands of soldiers were deployed, and poison gas was dropped on the revolters, killing tens of thousands. Eventually, the rebellion ran out of steam as British brutality intensified, with the RAF starting to drop poison gas bombs on whole villages. In London, screaming crowds of nationalists demanded that the "despicable, ungrateful Hindoos" learn their place. When Ireland successfully separated from the UK, riots erupted. Irish people living in Britain were lynched by the hundreds, and American businessmen and tourists had to flee to the (heavily guarded) US embassy. This potent mix of nationalism, paranoia, and anger, once combined with the economic collapse, meant that Unitism quickly became extremely popular. Throughout the 1920's and 30's, the "English Nationalist Party" (IngNat for short) under the leadership of George Orwell (born Arthur Eric Blair) steadily gained influence. The English Nationalist Party was described as a "Unitist movement with English attributes." The IngNat movement idolized the Arthurian myths of old, as well as the Victorian era, as times of "unquestionable British dominance." The movement was extremely monarchist and aristocratic. They envisioned a future where a "super race" comprised of Britain's aristocracy ruled over a nation of "racially pure Britons," who in turn dominated the "lesser races." The other peoples of the world were there to be slaughtered and exploited as the British chose, as the whole world was destined to be ruled by the British Empire. In the 1931 general elections, the IngNat movement successfully allied with the Tories, and swept Parliament. The monarchy and aristocracy approved of Orwell, and he was promptly appointed Prime Minister. A new era was dawning.....

Japan was also unique among the Unitist powers, and not just because they were Asian. Rather than falling to a Unitist party, the Japanese came under the influence of an ultra-nationalist clique of military leaders influenced by Unitist ideas. This group seized power (unofficially) in the late 1920's, and began completely reshaping Japan. The ancient Samurai code of Bushido was warped and idolized into essentially a cult of death and sacrifice for the "good of the nation." The cult around the Emperor Hirohito grew even more intense. In Japan's colonies oppression became truly horrific, as Korea and Formosa became a testing ground for new methods of population control, forced labor, and cultural "Japan washing." In 1931, the Japanese kicked off the Second Sino-Japanese War, and some would argue the Second World War, by invading Manchuria...

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French leader Maurice Pujo. Note the prominent eagle motif, derivative of Napoleon

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Portuguese leader Salazar

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The flag of Unitist Spain

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The flag of Unitist Serbia (photo creds AlexanderAbelard)

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The proposed borders of "Greater Greece"


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The flag of the IngNat movement

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The RAF preparing to drop chlorine gas on an Indian village

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Prime Minister Orwell in uniform, receiving a fascist salute from supporters

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Japanese soldiers press into Manchuria

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A colorized image of a Japanese "New Samurai." These elite forces were the most fanatical soldiers in the IJA, and were famous for wrapping the "sacred Japanese flag" around their heads before charging into battle.
 
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