Let The Eagle Scream Version 2: Star-Spangled-Boogaloo
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Is he ruler of both Empire? Is there any attempt to grant rights to dalits? True India done a smart thing by getting out of war . No they can focus more on internal improvement.
So, the Indian Empire is structured like the OTL Austro-Hungarian Empire. There are two separate kingdoms with separate governments under one Emperor. Dalit rights will probably be something that comes with time. They just figured out how to not get their two biggest religious groups to stop murdering each other, they have stuff to work on. There will likely be a movement in the future though. And India and much of the world will develop faster than OTL.
Ah son of a bitch, I meant to replace that with Karachi before publishing. Good catch, I'll fix it
Thanks! Also, who are the first Prime Ministers of Hindustan and Moslemstan?
so are there some area taken by Afghanistan? also what is status of Burma? there was lots of Indian investments done there during raj and most of wealthy are Indian does it fall under Indian Empire now?
How much of Indian democratic movement and Aryan society survived? Also What happened to bose and Nehru?
How much of Indian democratic movement and Aryan society survived? Also What happened to bose and Nehru?
Afghanistan doesn't have the force projection to really take anything without serious outside help. Since they're not a Soviet ally per se, just some hired muscle, that didn't happen. Burma will become an independent state, and I could easily see India controlling it in some capacity once they've recovered. The Indian democracy movement is still around, but most folks are so grateful for stability and hot meals that it's not really a force anymore. The Aryan Empire League is non-existent, and lots of semi-prominent local collaborators are probably taking advantage of the chaos to move elsewhere and disavow the AEL entirely. Nehru will play a role coming up, but Bose's prominence has been butterflied/replaced with someone not from OTL.
Maybe it’s just me but I feel like the USA here, in some way, should’ve been more open to miscegenation if only because of the Colfax era of Reconstruction. But then... I’m also a fan of Omally’s AAPA and the Coalition there promotes it. Lol
I’m going to assume that things like interracial marriage and the like wouldn’t be nearly as controversial as it was OTL though?
I’m going to assume that things like interracial marriage and the like wouldn’t be nearly as controversial as it was OTL though?
Yeah, it's been remarked to be less racist then OTL so such things should be more common. You dont get the historical level of mutual separation without intense racism so I don't see how this US could possibly maintain it.
In the original the leading light of multiculturalism and race equality was William F. Buckley 😂
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General George "Blood and Guts" Patton, Commander of the Canadian Front and Liberator of Ireland
With Japan on the ropes by mid 1943, Washington turned their eyes to the European theater. America had mostly stayed out of Europe to focus on Asia, much to the annoyance of their German allies. However, President Richardson pointed out that Germany didn't have a substantial presence in Asia, and that only America could take out Japan. Nonetheless, he committed American troops to liberating Ireland, which would put even greater pressure on an already crumbling British Empire. An unspoken part of this idea was the fact that it would guarantee America a toehold in Europe. Even as America and Germany cooperated on the broad strokes and shared a few technologies (mainly pertaining to jet engines and machine guns) both continent straddling superpowers were working to secure the largest possible sphere of influence for themselves. America needed to liberate Ireland themselves if they didn't want to be completely shut out of Europe.
General George "Blood and Guts" Patton, Commander of the Canadian Front and Liberator of Ireland
Leading the charge to liberate Ireland was General George S. Patton, the man responsible for America's rapid victory in Canada, and his two favored colleagues from the Marines and Navy, Lieutenant General Pedro del Valle, and African-American Vice Admiral Marcus Booker. All three men shared common personality traits and backgrounds. They were all Southerners, they all believed in aggressive strategies designed to wear down the enemy, and all were fierce patriots and imperialists who were paranoid about a coming German or Soviet world order. Since they shared the same idiosyncrasies, they were perfect colleagues for a joint liberation effort, and perhaps the only two people who could have worked as effectively with Patton as they did. Their plan was a simple one. First, the US would need to either get permission to land in Greenland or would have to simply land there, to use as a launching pad into Ireland. The ports of Kilronan and Fenit would provide a good staging ground to punch into the majority of Ireland. The Protestant North was to be dealt with last, as resistance there would be fierce.
President Richardson was able to get German permission to use Greenland as a launching point, partially by implying that the "Triumvirate of Crazy" would just seize it if they didn't. The Americans would later buy the island from Denmark for a relative pittance. Having established bases in Greenland by February of 1943, the 180,000 troops and 40,000 sailors devoted to the mission would hunker down until April to begin the offensive. The exception to this were the submarine "Wolf Pack" of the North Atlantic Fleet, which spent months crippling British shipping and the Royal Navy in Ireland. There would also be New York launched airstrikes against Irish ports delivered by V-56 bombers, who also targeted London to both terrify the British and demonstrate their long reach to the world. The increasingly decrepit Royal Navy and Air Force were unable to combat these efforts effectively, and had basically resolved to protect Britain proper from German invasion, and leave everyone else to fend for themselves.
In April, after the last winter freeze, the Americans attacked. Landing in Kilronan and Fenit almost simultaneously, the Americans were greeted as heroes by the Irish. Despite local support, entrenched British positions and the Protestants were determined to fight for as long as they could. Despite the deployment of a large army, complete with tanks and air support, it took until October to completely secure the Emerald Isle, including Ulster. The Battle of Dublin in July was particularly brutal. As the Americans sped through Ireland, they also uncovered the Erstwhile Camps. By 1942, they had transitioned from labor camps into death camps. Some 775,000 Irish would perish in the camps. There were further discoveries in Africa by the Germans, where Britain is estimated to have killed over 4 million Africans. These discoveries came on the heels of the American Liberation of Hong Kong in June of '43. The general public was furious. Not only had the British and Japanese started a violent war of aggression against the United States and her Liberian allies, they had committed ruthless genocides against innocent peoples the Americans admired, or in the case of the Philippines and Hong Kong, against American citizens. Even as the United States government tested its new superweapon in the deserts of American Mexico, public opinion against Britain and Japan was boiling over. They had sown the wind, and now it was time to reap the wild whirlwind.
After the end of the war, Ireland was made a free and independent Republic. The Ulster Protestants were loaded onto ships and deported to Britain and South Africa. American bomber based would be constructed in the country in 1947, which Berlin protested as a threatening gesture. However, the Irish were broadly supportive of the American military presence in the country, which would grow for years. With their continent straddling, nuke lobbing superpower buddies behind them, the Irish slept easy knowing that no foreign power would dare to threaten them again. Ireland would go on to be one of America's closest and most loyal allies. It was the least they could do for the country that crossed the ocean to free them.
American troops cavort with Irish girls in Dublin (August, 1943)
An American soldier and Irish auxiliary pose at the opening of Fort Patton in Ireland (1947)
American MPs give military honors to a rebel leader turned Erstwhile Camp victim outside Kilkenny (1943)
So, race ITTL's America is a bit different. Let me explain:
Like Kylia said, it's still in many ways segregated between White and Black, but much more equal. Racial mixing with groups that would have been deeply frowned upon IOTL isn't so much ITTL. American Mexico has been flooded with Asian immigrants and they have mixed with both Whites and Hispanics so much that in one chapter I made a small mention of "Chexicans" or Chinese-Mexicans. On the White side of the equation, Whites are much more intermixed with White Hispanics, Asians, and some Mestizos than would have been considered acceptable IOTL. On the Black side of things, there have also been big changes. IOTL there's a phenomenon known as "colorism" where within the Black community, mulattos and light skinned Black people were/are treated better/paid more/more likely to break into the middle class. That's not really a thing ITTL, and far from trying to preserve lighter skin like IOTL, intermarriage between the groups is common. Also, an upcoming plot point in the Hispanic territories/states is going to be a reaction to the fact that Whites and Blacks ganged up on Mestizos for a variety of reasons.
So while there hasn't been a lot of White-Black mixture, there are a lot more Amerasians, Asian-Hispanic couples, Non-Hispanic and Hispanic White couples, marriage between Whites and some Mestizos, and much more intermarriage between Hispanic, lighter skinned, mulatto, and darker skinned non-Hispanic Black people as compared to OTL. Hopefully that makes sense, feel free to ask for clarification if need be.
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Ok folks, State of the TL time. Here's the upcoming updates:
End of War
Russia update
Special Surprise (it's going to shock you)
Italy chapter
Brazil-Portugal chapter.
End of War
Russia update
Special Surprise (it's going to shock you)
Italy chapter
Brazil-Portugal chapter.
There's a joke about Chex Mix here somewhere.
Also, if this America is that much more accepting of interracial couples, why haven't there also been more white-black mixture? They often live in very close proximity to one another, surely it must be happening without the racism of OTL to act as a barrier.
So, a couple reasons. First of all, one thing that isn't discussed a whole lot is that while other ethnic minorities have obviously been discriminated against, they have always been viewed very differently from Black people. There are stories from OTL of Asian immigrants "siding" with Whites over Blacks for instance. This isn't as much of a factor as IOTL, but Black people are still viewed in a very different light from the rest of the country, it's just nowhere near as brutal and negative as OTL. Secondly, you have to remember that ITTL, the Great Migration didn't occur in the same manner. Yes, some Black people left for Northern cities, and many others left for the West (AZ is Black majority ITTL) and the Caribbean, but overall much more of the Black population was content to stay put than IOTL.
Which gets us to the final point: the Cackalack Compromise. The Compromise guarantees Black dominance over Black majority districts and communities. This encourages de facto self-segregation as Black people move to counties and districts run by their people, while Whites move to White run areas. More importantly than that, you now have a large class of powerful Black people who have a strong vested interest in making sure that their communities stay capital B Black. There's a big and not totally unfounded fear among Black elites that allowing lots of White people to move into their communities and marry their kids could potentially undermine their hegemony. All it theoretically takes is one act of the Governor to say "all mixed race kids are now White" to weaken or destroy Black dominance of their communities if there's a large mixed population. They're proud Americans and glad to work with their White colleagues, so long as those colleagues don't threaten their power. These views have trickled down to large portions of the Black population at large. They just recently got their voice, and no one is going to take it from them.
That being said, these laws will actually be falling sooner than OTL.
What is America's plan for India? Sending some missionaries?
Will Indian Emperor try to further curtail power of native rulers? I mean they still have huge influence on their areas.
I think India can project power on Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, and Sri Lanka. Maybe even in part of South East Asia.
Will Indian Emperor try to further curtail power of native rulers? I mean they still have huge influence on their areas.
I think India can project power on Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Burma, and Sri Lanka. Maybe even in part of South East Asia.
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