Legacy of Elysia

As part of a brain excercise and a school project, I decided to create an Alternate History similar to the Third Odyssey mod for Europa Universalis IV.

The scenario is that in 1444 Constantine, son of John VII of Byzantium, angered at his fathers ingnorance of the threat the Ottoman Turks, has a vision of a voice telling him that an Elysium (paradise) existed west beyond the Pillars of Hercules. He gathers 1000 of his followers, hires a Venetian fleet and sails west.

1444-Constantine and his followers, after having half the exiles fleet destroyed in a storm, make landfall at OTL Chesapeake. Constantine and the rest of the exiles convert to Hellenism on the basis that's Christianity was what led the Roman and Byzantine empires to ruin, and proclaims the site of Elysiantinople, the capital of the new Nation of Elysia. Constantine quickly establishes a coexistence policy with the native tribes, on the basis that they are Greeks that have died and gone to Elysium.

1414-1492-The nation of Elysia expands rapidly, with native tribes being integrated into the Elysian society. By 1492, Elysia encompasses much of the Eastern seaboard. Elysiantinople meanwhile becomes a booming metropolis with a population of 45,000.

1453-Constantinople falls to an Ottoman assault, ending the Byzantine Empire.

1492-Emboldened by stories of the exiles of Byzantium, Christopher Columbus and his fleet sails west and makes landfall in the Caribbean Islands.

1494-On his second voyage Columbus comes in contact with an Elysian settlement in Cuba. Columbus returns to Europe with the confirmation that the Byzantine exiles survived their journey.

1500-1600- Elysia conquers Mexico and expands to the Western Seaboard. Spain and Portugal colonise South America while England begins expanding into Canada. France, isolated from the colonial game in the Americas, begins extensive colonisation of the coasts of Africa. Meanwhile, the Ottoman Turks expand into Egypt and into Hungary. The Holy Roman Empire, led by Austria, as well as Spain become increasingly wary of the Ottoman threat.

1554-The Great Journey Home – Elysia, aided by Portugal, France, Spain, and the Holy Roman Empire launch an invasion of Greece and Anatolia. The Ottoman Forces are absolutely decimated, and Greece and much of Anatolia is liberated by advancing Elysia armies. The Ottoman Empire is dissolved in 1556 and the most Ottoman refugees eventually get assimilated into the growing Mughal Empire in India with the remaining Janniseries becoming elite forces in the Mughal Army.

1560-The Kingdom of Konstantina is established in Greece and Anatolia. The Iberian Union is formed after years of dynastic union between Spain and Portugal

1600-In Response to the growing English presence in Canada, Elysia, allied with Spain and France declare war on the English. The so called “War for Kanada” sees the combined navies of Elysia, Spain, and France crush the English in the Battle of Brest, and the War ends with the occupation of London by French forces.

1605- The Treaty of Paris forces England to release Ireland, Scotland and Wales, and to cede Canada to Elysia. The English nation slips into decadence.

1606-The Mughal Empire conquers all of India thanks to Ottoman forces integrated into the Mughal Army.

1650-The French colonise Australia while Elysia colonises Indonesia and South East Asia

1701-Charles, King of the Iberian Union dies without an heir, leading to the War of Iberian Succession. Without Great Britain, the French and Spanish crush the Habsburger monarchy in Austria.

1705-Following much civil unrest in the Austrian Empire, the Confederation of the Danube is founded.

1740-Louis XV inherits the throne of Iberia and the extensive Iberian colonial holdings in Asia and South America. Louis proclaims the Union of Franco-Iberia.

Here is what I have done so far, tell me of what you think!
 
Though i love the idea, it needs some work. Here are what I see as critical stumble stones:
Don't kill so many butterflies! It begins with Columbus, but gets worse.
A revival of Hellenism is difficult given the deep Christianisation of the period and, more importantly, the lack of embodied knowledge about Hellenism. People din't just convert by abstract choice to a faith that doesn't exist at that time.
How does Elysiopolis grow so fast? Economic conditions are poor, to say the least!
 
Most of Constantines followers were mostly literates and so had an extensive knowledge of History. They linked the downfall of Rome with the rise of Christianity and thought that the Roman Empire was most powerful when Hellenism was dominant.

Also, the reason Elysiantinople grows so fast is the integration of native tribes into the population of the capital over the forty years, although the population at 1492 is a rough estimate.
Also, I'm not a native English speaker so forgive me but what do you mean by not killing of butterflies?
 
Most of Constantines followers were mostly literates and so had an extensive knowledge of History. They linked the downfall of Rome with the rise of Christianity and thought that the Roman Empire was most powerful when Hellenism was dominant.

Also, the reason Elysiantinople grows so fast is the integration of native tribes into the population of the capital over the forty years, although the population at 1492 is a rough estimate.
Also, I'm not a native English speaker so forgive me but what do you mean by not killing of butterflies?
Yeah they`re literate and maybe even erudite people, but still you don`t recreate a religion out of book knowledge. You can overhaul an existing religion by bringing in such knowledge, but people creating it out of thin air due to what sounds like logical reasoning? That´s not how we´re wired religion-wise. You want to know that the Gods are actually the real ones. All the Hellenic mystery cults are gone and lost. None of the families which bore sacerdotial traditions in Hellenic religion are still there, and with them, a lot of unwritten knowledge and sacrificial rites, presaging know-how etc. is lost. All the local connections are lost, and they were huge in Hellenic religion. When these people erect a temple to, say, Diana, somewhere in North America, they`re going to feel like people enacting a weird theatre play. It´s all going to feel wrong and helpless.
Also, the mindset of the XVth century in the face of disaster and failure was always to think that contemporary society had erred from its true Christian ways and was punished by God for that, so one looked back to earlier Christianity or what one thought it was and attempted to "go back to the roots" and radicalised oneself. Surely there were Humanists who valued classical antiquity and weren`t particularly Christian or religious at all. But that´s still far from born-again Hellenists.

The integration of native tribes into the population of the capital can numerically provide for the numbers, but it can`t explain itself. Why would all the natives go to the capital? How can Elysiantinople function as such a magnet? Its urbanity seems to rest on quite a shaky foundation. You see, medieval towns and cities didn`t just need a court. They existed and grew through the influx of artisans and merchants. While the Greek may have been commercially minded and brought some crafters` skills with them, the natives surely didn`t have any of these. They might be a manpower pool, if they`re not decimated by Old World diseases too much, but even that only works if you have an outlet market for your manufactured goods. What is being produced in Elysiantinople, where do the resources come from and whom are they sold to?

By killing butterflies I meant changing something so fundamental at an early point, and then going on as if nothing had happened in some parts of your world. If all these Byzzies are gone to America, why would it still be Columbus sailing West again in 1492? Why not in 1482, and why not somebody else? It wouldn`t even be a discovery voyage since America was already discovered. There might never be a "Spain" and certainly not a "Canada" as we know it. And for sure there wouldn`t be a person named Louis XV on the French throne in 1740 after three centuries of divergence.
 
Yeah they`re literate and maybe even erudite people, but still you don`t recreate a religion out of book knowledge. You can overhaul an existing religion by bringing in such knowledge, but people creating it out of thin air due to what sounds like logical reasoning? That´s not how we´re wired religion-wise. You want to know that the Gods are actually the real ones. All the Hellenic mystery cults are gone and lost. None of the families which bore sacerdotial traditions in Hellenic religion are still there, and with them, a lot of unwritten knowledge and sacrificial rites, presaging know-how etc. is lost. All the local connections are lost, and they were huge in Hellenic religion. When these people erect a temple to, say, Diana, somewhere in North America, they`re going to feel like people enacting a weird theatre play. It´s all going to feel wrong and helpless.
Also, the mindset of the XVth century in the face of disaster and failure was always to think that contemporary society had erred from its true Christian ways and was punished by God for that, so one looked back to earlier Christianity or what one thought it was and attempted to "go back to the roots" and radicalised oneself. Surely there were Humanists who valued classical antiquity and weren`t particularly Christian or religious at all. But that´s still far from born-again Hellenists.

The integration of native tribes into the population of the capital can numerically provide for the numbers, but it can`t explain itself. Why would all the natives go to the capital? How can Elysiantinople function as such a magnet? Its urbanity seems to rest on quite a shaky foundation. You see, medieval towns and cities didn`t just need a court. They existed and grew through the influx of artisans and merchants. While the Greek may have been commercially minded and brought some crafters` skills with them, the natives surely didn`t have any of these. They might be a manpower pool, if they`re not decimated by Old World diseases too much, but even that only works if you have an outlet market for your manufactured goods. What is being produced in Elysiantinople, where do the resources come from and whom are they sold to?

By killing butterflies I meant changing something so fundamental at an early point, and then going on as if nothing had happened in some parts of your world. If all these Byzzies are gone to America, why would it still be Columbus sailing West again in 1492? Why not in 1482, and why not somebody else? It wouldn`t even be a discovery voyage since America was already discovered. There might never be a "Spain" and certainly not a "Canada" as we know it. And for sure there wouldn`t be a person named Louis XV on the French throne in 1740 after three centuries of divergence.
That's fair enough and thanks for your feedback. I'll start over.

In 1444, the Byzantine emperor John VII was in denial of the threat the Ottoman Turks had to the Byzantine Empire. He reasoned that Constantinoples walls had withstood centuries of sieges and would continue to do so. Johns denial would frustrate his son Constantine, who saw the Ottomans as a true threat to the Empire. But his attempts to get his father to organise an anti-Ottoman coalition came to no avail. Growing increasingly frustrated, Constantine eventually had a vision of an Angel telling him to gather his followers and go beyond the Pillars of Hercules. Using his wealth as heir to the Byzantine throne, Constantine hired a Venetian fleet, and set sail with his followers, bringing along the method of silk production.

After a mostly uneventful journey (they lost a supply galley to a storm along the way), the Byzantine fleet made landfall at OTL Chesapeake Bay. Constantine and his followers name the landmass "Paliologia" after Constantines dynasty and proclaims the site as Nea Byzantinos. Following the landfall, several colonists, under the orders from Constantine, begin to explore the surrounding area and very quickly begin to disperse around the Byzantinos bay, founding Nea Adrianopolis the following year as an outpost on the eastern side of the bay. The colonists quickly discover the land surrounding the bay is extremely fertile, and the colonists start cultivating the land not only for wheat but also with mulberry plants they had brought with them.

The following years saw the expansion of Byzantinos Empire to the surrounding areas of OTL Chesapeake. However, the expansion brought the Empire into conflict with the native Powhatans. The Powhatan War of 1446-1447 was the first test of whether the fledgling nation could survive or not. Despite being outnumbered, Constantine utilised the few horses the colonists brought with them to defeat the Powhatans. The Powhatan War ended with the Powhatans being forcibly annexed into the Empire. Following the war, Nea Byzantinos grew from 1000 to 4000 people in 1447, with native Indians coming to trade the Byzantinosians food and supply's for silk.


If this is better, I'll continue to update this!
 
Feels better.
There are still a few problems: by 1444, oceangoing caravels like Columbus used them were not really developed yet, so the journey may be quite difficult.
Silk in the new world? Cool idea.
 
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