Latest possible use of the term Vandalia to refer to an eventual Christian state in Tunisia

When the Normans occupied Tunisia for a brief time by mid-12th century, they always used the old Roman name of Africa to refer to their dominions there, as well as the HRE and other European powers.

While in other European regions the Germanic toponyms had replaced the old Roman ones (France/Francia, Lombardy, Burgundy, Gothia...) totally or partially, despite the fact that some of those middle-ages states kept little links to the original Germanic tribes which settled there (i.e. Burgundy), in Africa the term Vandalia did not endure and never replaced the Roman one.

Is it possible that Normans could have revived the term of Vandalia for Africa if they had retained the area for longer time? Curiously, during the American colonization the term was revived and used in some American areas.
 
Sure I suppose. Wikipedia says it was also a poetic name for Andalusia so anybody who wanted to call back to the idea of a lost Christian land reclaimed from the Muslims could use it.

There's a bunch of place in the US named Vandalia. And four USN ships as well.
 
The Vandal state is not destroyed by the East Romans and will survive untill the arrival of the Arab with an christian Vandal/berber population not conversing to Islam?
 
Sure I suppose. Wikipedia says it was also a poetic name for Andalusia so anybody who wanted to call back to the idea of a lost Christian land reclaimed from the Muslims could use it.

There's a bunch of place in the US named Vandalia. And four USN ships as well.

Yes, for many years it was assumed that the name Andalusia derived from the Arab mispelling of 'Vandallus', but recent research has stated that the name was already used before the German migrations, probably as a corruption of Atlantus, as the areas surrounding the strait of Gibraltar had been called since the classical Greek era.
 
When the Normans occupied Tunisia for a brief time by mid-12th century, they always used the old Roman name of Africa to refer to their dominions there, as well as the HRE and other European powers.

While in other European regions the Germanic toponyms had replaced the old Roman ones (France/Francia, Lombardy, Burgundy, Gothia...) totally or partially, despite the fact that some of those middle-ages states kept little links to the original Germanic tribes which settled there (i.e. Burgundy), in Africa the term Vandalia did not endure and never replaced the Roman one.

Is it possible that Normans could have revived the term of Vandalia for Africa if they had retained the area for longer time? Curiously, during the American colonization the term was revived and used in some American areas.

You'd probably want to get the Vandal kingdom to survive longer, and/or make more of an impact on the wider Mediterranean so people have more reason to remember them.
 
The Vandal state is not destroyed by the East Romans and will survive untill the arrival of the Arab with an christian Vandal/berber population not conversing to Islam?
Rather, it is a question of assigning a new toponym Africa. How Baetica was the land of the Vandals (Andalusia). The survival of the Vandals in Africa is unlikely. A colonization Norman Sicilians and Africa .. there is something to think about, but it would be unlikely for a long time.
 
Rather, it is a question of assigning a new toponym Africa. How Baetica was the land of the Vandals (Andalusia). The survival of the Vandals in Africa is unlikely. A colonization Norman Sicilians and Africa .. there is something to think about, but it would be unlikely for a long time.

Is it that impossible for the Vandal kingdom to survive and thus give Vandalia to North Africa as the Franks gave the name France to Gaul? And did the Normans ever refer back to the Vandals in their rule in North Africa for the short time they were there?

And what would the endonym be, considering that both neo-Punic and Berber (the majority rural languages) lacked /v/ in their phonology, and probably African Romance would continue that? Arabic also does, for that matter. Is the "Vandalusia = Andalusia" link that disproven?
 
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