Ricardolindo
Banned
What is the latest possible POD for an united Scandinavia? I'm defining Scandinavia as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the Åland Islands and Iceland, because of their ethnolinguistic similarities.
I think that the latest point was in the 1860s. The failure of Norway-Sweden to do anything on behalf of the Kingdom of Denmark in 1864 put an end to pan-Scandinavianism. If you had that support, even if Denmark was still defeated, you might well have had something.
This, very much this. Slesvig was the tipping point on which Scandinavianism was going to live or die, given it was the test of weather or not the Swedes would bleed for their brothers who were dedicated to keeping Norse under the rule of Norse and discarding the Feudal-medieval structure of them and Holstein with a modern, ethno-state model of "Denmark to the Eider". If Sweden had demonstrated a willingness to actually treat the violation of the rights of the Slesvigers like they would that of their own countrymen, then you'd have grounds on which to pereceive them AS their countrymen.
Whether or not this was possible is another matter. Was Norway-Sweden ever likely to get involved?
What is the latest possible POD for an united Scandinavia? I'm defining Scandinavia as Denmark, Norway, Sweden, the Åland Islands and Iceland, because of their ethnolinguistic similarities.
If Denmark and Sweden are in a union there might be less... incentive for that kind of Swedification.A United Scandinavia with the same Swedification of Denmark as Skane and Blekinge Went through up to around 1700 means that the Danish nationalism is all but wiped out. Norway would integrate just fine.
I belive 1800s were to late. I Think the last best hope for Scandinavia was Charles X and instead of having the treaty of Roskilde march on and take the Danish capital that was in a state of panic from the march over the Belt and then have Denmark form a union with Sweden. Charles might actually have survived a few more years since the second war more or less burned him out.
A United Scandinavia with the same Swedification of Denmark as Skane and Blekinge Went through up to around 1700 means that the Danish nationalism is all but wiped out. Norway would integrate just fine.
What happens with the Polish and Russian revenge ambitions if Sweden also is Norway and Denmark and do not have to worry about that flank. What does Pruessia do with their norden neighbour?
Uhm... I'm not sure the until then-eastern part of Denmark was that much more uneducated than Jutland, even if the reformation (and before then,You're dealing with quite a few more Danes with a much more educated population and entrenched intelligencia, with no immediate Swedish neighbors to move in.