Lasting Kingdom of the Huns

What LSCatalina said (as always).


Though I imagine you can just have the Huns conquer Persia and assimilate like other nomads (thinking Parthians here) did in the past.
 
If the Huns hadn't fragmented on Attila's death, they would have once a) one of the Romes inflicted defeat on them, b) once the Germanic/Sarmatian/Proto-Slavic vassals tired of obeisance to the Khan, c) once a gavelkind civil war broke out or d) once a bigger, better steppe empire came along.

It was only after the Huns, Avars, Bulgars and Great Moravia that Pannonia, the base for whatever Hunnic kingdom would remain, was fully pacified by the Magyars. Even if they become Christian, I don't see a Hunnic Pannonia withstanding the next round of Turkic invasions well.

Now, if the Huns conquer somewhere else and settle there, they will quickly Romanize like the Goths and Franks and eventually become a Romance people (because they aren't subjugating all of Germany or Britain). If the Huns conquer Greece, expect a swift Hellenization and a probable Bulgar-Byzantine relationship until they are fully subjugated.
Are Hunnic tribes themselves really so few that they couldn't possibly resist any of the next waves of nomadic horsemen to come streaming in? They seem to have been strong enough that for a short period of time at least they dominated the eastern Germanic tribes as well as the Sarmatian peoples, perhaps even without Attila's whole hegemony if the Hunnic peoples themselves (and didn't the Alans still stick with the Huns during the break-up of the Hun empire?) they could feasibly weather the Avars and Bulgars without having to flee into Roman territory?
 
Are Hunnic tribes themselves really so few that they couldn't possibly resist any of the next waves of nomadic horsemen to come streaming in? They seem to have been strong enough that for a short period of time at least they dominated the eastern Germanic tribes as well as the Sarmatian peoples, perhaps even without Attila's whole hegemony if the Hunnic peoples themselves (and didn't the Alans still stick with the Huns during the break-up of the Hun empire?) they could feasibly weather the Avars and Bulgars without having to flee into Roman territory?

It's not a matter of few, it's a matter of weak. By the time the Avars come two centuries later, the martial characteristics of the early Hunnic confederation may well be gone.

What LSCatilina said as well- excellent stuff
 
Are Hunnic tribes themselves really so few that they couldn't possibly resist any of the next waves of nomadic horsemen to come streaming in?
It's less a question of number (even if, yes, they were only but a small part of the hegemon Attila lead) than political structure (or rather, lack of).
A structure essentially based on domination trough military success and charisma isn't going to hold much.

They seem to have been strong enough that for a short period of time at least they dominated the eastern Germanic tribes as well as the Sarmatian peoples
Attila's power and Hunnic power may have be two disting things : eventually it's the unicity of royal power since Ruga and the easier (roman) gold redistribution that allows to make it.

The Hunnic hegemony didn't disappeared overnight but it was quite close : Nedao is a good enough exemple on the relative superficial domination of Huns on the form of a political and military alliance rather than imperium.

(and didn't the Alans still stick with the Huns during the break-up of the Hun empire?)
Some did, but Alans can be arguably found everywhere in Romania or Barbaricum at this time. Attila's hegemony was less on entiere people than on tribes and fractions.

they could feasibly weather the Avars and Bulgars without having to flee into Roman territory?

Well, Avars and Bulgars were quite importantly slavized and if they kept their ethnoyms (or gave some, as Croats, to slavic peoples) and it's a quite interesting parallel with what Huns would look like if they manage to form a still political entity by the VIIth century : a people without that obvious turkic traits but more likely romano-germanized if entered deep enough in Romania; slavo-germanized if maintained outside (and probably absorbated by other federation, agglomerate of distinct peoples) but there's little room for that (you'd need one son of Attila deciding to establish his hold neither in Pannonia or Getica).
 
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