NomadicSky
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I was thinking what if the US had been able to attract more colonies to join the rebellion in 1775?
I was thinking Nova Scotia, East Florida, West Florida.
I was thinking Nova Scotia, East Florida, West Florida.
I was thinking what if the US had been able to attract more colonies to join the rebellion in 1775?
I was thinking Nova Scotia, East Florida, West Florida.
The Floridas aren't going to work. There's hardly any people in them, and besides, why would the US want to upset a potential ally?
The Floridas aren't going to work. There's hardly any people in them, and besides, why would the US want to upset a potential ally?
Floridas were British, but while West Florida's Natchez got captured, Pensacola and East Florida were taken by Spain in 1783. St. Augustine also recieved huge amounts of Loyalists, so it's not going to go away from the crown willingly.
If you can find a way to get the British base in Halifax neutralized, Nova Scotia has a decent chance. Haligonians were bitchy on their rights too, the New England Planter settlers were a majority and generally sympathetic to the colonists, and the classic Eddy's Rebellion, if it had gone better, would have galvanized at least the New Brunswick/St. John River region.
The Bahamas had many sympathetic, or at least neutral, residents.
Bermuda smuggled a bit portion of gunpowder to the rebels in the aptly named Tobacco Bay. By 1779 they were being starved by American privateers, and a relief force sent via HMS Delaware got to the island with ten minutes to spare against four privateers. Perhaps if it got taken out, the whole-'occupied and Patriot government' ordeal could have followed.
Canada/Quebec is tough. Perhaps if you can find a way to capture Quebec, it works.
St. John's Island (Prince Edward Island) had its governor captured in 1775 but sent back by Washington. If that governor is kept perhaps, then anarchy reigns in the island until Nova Scotia falls. SJI is then pretty much isolated and I suppose would logically fall to Patriots in the place.
Newfoundland technically had a ton of shipping destroyed by privateers, and Carbonear and Harbour Grace in the island, and Cartwright, Labrador, were attacked by the Americans. But there's been no record I've seen of Patriots active to make it a permanent part of the USA...then, there's barely any permanent population there period at the time.
Rupert's Land is way too north and small to be worth considering. No.
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...as you can tell, I'm a ARW America-wanker. The concept of ALL of what were called 'Americans' at the time-ALL the English-speaking colonies of North America's eastern seaboard-is vastly intruiging to me, there was just a lot of luck in some cases in those places NOT turning to the Patriots, and it's one of the few places to expand to without too-wild butterflies (I'm lazy, in that respect). Ironically, for how much I hawk on this area going to the USA, I feel myself becoming anti-USA wank in almost every other place. I finally realized how much we did get OTL.
It sounds like you've put a lot of thought into this what-if. Have you developed any timelines?
The Kingdom of Albion in my Course of Human Events TL stretched from Nova Scotia to the Floridas, and included Bermuda, the Bahamas plus Ontario, at the time of independence from GB in 1789.