Large Scale Imperial Japanese Aggression in the 1920s?

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This is because Japan viewed international cooperation as more important than acquiring vast tracks of land. Why is this surprising?

It wasn't too long afterwards that they were a militarist country looking to acquire vast tracts of land and couldn't care less about international relations as long as the petroleum and raw resources kept flowing.
 
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lol kay then

Do you have a cite for this?

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=10790804

"Subjected to intense diplomatic pressure by the United States and Great Britain, and facing increasing domestic opposition due to the economic and human cost, the administration of Prime Minister Kato Tomosaburo withdrew the Japanese forces in October 1922."
From Wikipedia. Unsourced, but think it makes intuitive sense to believe the same.
 
It wasn't too long afterwards that they were a militarist country looking to acquire vast tracts of land and couldn't care less about international relations as long as the petroleum and raw resources kept flowing.

And the Germans started turning their neighbors into soap.
 
No, what's important is that they had expanded their sphere of influence during that time and were paying a large sum for it.
Nope. I was responding to the idea of Japan annexing Russian territory. The Russians aren't going to give it up. It would mean a war that would inevitably end with a Russian victory.
 
Interesting that you ignore the domestic opposition.
I didn't talk about them because I didn't notice them. If there were domestic opposition, then great. No need to be so caustic about that.

Nope. I was responding to the idea of Japan annexing Russian territory. The Russians aren't going to give it up. It would mean a war that would inevitably end with a Russian victory.
That isn't a certainty. The Baltics, Finland and Poland, all of which were previously Russian territories, became independent from the USSR after the years of conflict. A Japan-supported White Russia is entirely plausible given the right PODs.
 
I didn't talk about them because I didn't notice them. If there were domestic opposition, then great. No need to be so caustic about that.

That isn't a certainty. The Baltics, Finland and Poland, all of which were previously Russian territories, became independent from the USSR after the years of conflict. A Japan-supported White Russia is entirely plausible given the right PODs.
No it's not.

1) I doubt the Japanese would want to establish a white Russian state.

2) Having another Russia is dangerous.

3) Stalin isn't the same as the Russians who were willing to give up so much Russian territory.
 
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1) I doubt the Japanese would want to establish a white Russian state.
Hence the mention of the 'right PODs'. If either the US or Britain is willing to financially support Japan in this, and if this new White Russia is in a better position, then it's entirely plausible.
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2) Having another Russia is dangerous.
Also depends.
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3) Stalin isn't the same as the Russians who were willing to give up so much Russian territory.
It isn't Stalin yet.
 
Hence the mention of the 'right PODs'. If either the US or Britain is willing to financially support Japan in this, and if this new White Russia is in a better position, then it's entirely plausible.

Also depends.

It isn't Stalin yet.
1) Nope. I can't see the Soviet Union allowing it and the Japanese would have no way of enforcing it long term.

2) Stalin took over in 1924 and he's not the kind of guy who would abide by a Tsar loving Russia in the East.
 
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