Lands of the North: The Federation of Nordic States

Devvy

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Nice! Thanks for the comments - I'm always open to feedback to improve bits and incorporate more stuff in!

My main reason for having Stalin pushing further north is indeed the Kiel Canal rather then any notion of Baltic coast line. While the Nordics have sat out WWII, they are in a pretty de facto alliance between the (at this point) 4 of them (Finland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway). Given the Winter War in which Stalin attempted to subjugate Finland under his rule, and Denmark's support to Sweden's support for Finland, it's fair to say the Nordic countries aren't exactly friendly in their relations towards the Soviet Union.

Given the very small areas to navigate through on the way from the Baltic to the North Sea, it's not a big stretch of Stalin's imagination to see the Nordics managing to close the Oresund and the Belts - a problem for the Soviet Baltic Fleet.

The occupation of the Kiel Canal is Stalin's attempted insurance policy against this - an entrance/exit to the Baltic that avoids outside interference and also avoids a naturally difficult area to navigate through.

So I wouldn't say the Oresund/Belts will have their international status repudiated (I hadn't actually thought about that), but their status would definitely be in doubt if relations broken down.

As a side note - the Nordic states aren't in NATO, having remained as "armed neutrals", but are obviously friendly with NATO given both sides statuses as civilised western powers. Given that, and that the Nordics don't have nuclear weapons (and probably won't do in this TL like OTL), the Kiel remains a nice insurance policy against a breakdown in Soviet-Nordic relations.

From my writing point of view, it was one of the things I planned out in early stages as something that would help turn Danish focus away from the continent towards the Nordics again! :)

PS: This is a rough non-canon knockup of occupation zones in Germany. It's been something I've pondered on the side, as obviously the state of Germany post-WWII will have knockon effects on European integration post-WWII, and thus will have butterflies for the Nordics in the later 20th century.

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My main reason for having Stalin pushing further north is indeed the Kiel Canal rather then any notion of Baltic coast line.
But he gets that too. I see Churchill arguing against it on the grounds that the Nordics are valuable allies to have, and FDR pointing out that they are neutrals in the current war. (He won't say that with a lot of venom, because OTL the cause of Finland was popular in the USA and the Scandinavian-American vote is a not inconsiderable bloc if he should go out of his way to annoy them).

Getting the whole Baltic coastline on the south without controlling the western outlet of the Canal would do Stalin no good of course.
...Given the very small areas to navigate through on the way from the Baltic to the North Sea, it's not a big stretch of Stalin's imagination to see the Nordics managing to close the Oresund and the Belts - a problem for the Soviet Baltic Fleet.
They didn't OTL, even with Denmark having NATO to back them up, but if someone wrote a timeline where this was done I'd hardly cry ASB on it. There would have to be a pretext but those aren't too hard to find.
The occupation of the Kiel Canal is Stalin's attempted insurance policy against this - an entrance/exit to the Baltic that avoids outside interference and also avoids a naturally difficult area to navigate through.
Again I say, it will do him little good in a hot war, but he's probably counting on avoiding hot war as long as he can.

My take on Stalin and aggression is, it was both his nature and good Bolshevik doctrine to want to grab more, and to believe that in the end war between East and West was doomed. So, he was indeed always planning on fighting an actual all out war.

OTOH, it was also his nature to rule in a fashion that left no room for trust, and he was suitably paranoid. An army competent to conquer serious objectives in the west and then hold out against the inevitable all-out Western counterattack (or vice versa, as in "the Great Patriotic War") was also an alternative power structure he would have trouble controlling; officers and generals especially that he could rely on to win a war could also carry out a coup against him.

So he kept building up his forces, then knocking them down again in purges. It's my belief that he'd procrastinate launching the "inevitable" showdown war forever.

So at the same time, he plans war and peace. He plays for peace, to buy more time to make an even more unstoppable war machine, and if Bolshevism counsels aggression against the class enemy it also counsels that it is the workers themselves who are supposed to overthrow it, and that time is on the side of scientific socialism; the West is supposed to rot from within.

That rot includes aggressive death spasms like the Nazi regime, so the Socialist Motherland must always be on guard against another overwhelming surprise attack. The war he prepares has offense in the back of its mind, but is preoccupied with successful defense too.

So it makes sense I guess to acquire the canal even though in event of war it will be destroyed, because in the interim of peace it gives him options and forecloses options the capitalists would otherwise have, like bottling him up in the Baltic by means short of war.
So I wouldn't say the Oresund/Belts will have their international status repudiated (I hadn't actually thought about that), .....
I was too lazy to go back and see how far back you've butterflied Danish history.:eek: But it's a good bet the Great Powers of the later 19th century on the Baltic (Britain, Prussia/German Reich, Russia) would all have the same unified demand on Denmark to stop trying to charge tolls. I gather your Nordic alliance is largely a thing of the 20th century anyway, by then the internationalization of the Straits is a done deal in just about any timeline but a Danishwank (or one where Denmark is ruled by some other superpower). It's not clear to me what the status of warships is supposed to be but I suppose international means international, any nation can sail its warships through the straits and Denmark is not supposed to stop them.

We both understand this goes by the board if Denmark is controlled by some major power in a serious war.

Here the only powers involved on the Baltic are either in the Union or Warsaw Pact (or whatever that latter is called here). So the western nations doing a volte face and deciding the straits are Danish internal waters after all, with the understanding that of course the Finns and Swedes can navigate them freely as Union members, might not be so unlikely. Except maybe the NATO powers would still frown on it because they want the legal right to sail through the Straits to challenge the Soviet bloc forces in the Baltic and are more than prepared to fight the Soviet forces trying to come out of the Straits--prepared to fight to the last Dane!;):eek: (Tossing nukes around such a narrow strait can't be healthy for the Danish economy.:rolleyes:)

Status quo is the way to bet and whichever power bloc the Union aligns with is the one that count on the Straits being open to them, and the Union can count on that bloc to help them hold it open--and close it to the other guys.

Not until international tensions are already very high though; in anything resembling normal peacetime the Russians will be able to get ships, civil and naval, through.
As a side note - the Nordic states aren't in NATO, having remained as "armed neutrals", but are obviously friendly with NATO given both sides statuses as civilised western powers. Given that, and that the Nordics don't have nuclear weapons (and probably won't do in this TL like OTL), the Kiel remains a nice insurance policy against a breakdown in Soviet-Nordic relations.
Well, at that close range, Nordic air forces ought to be enough to blast through and bomb the canal with conventional bombs, enough to ruin it for transit if they press the attack so the Soviets can't fix it up again during the war. But of course the Nordics will have worse things to worry about than attrition on that front if they get into a hot war with the Soviets and their allies. Like all their cities being nuked for instance.

Unless of course this war is a Ragnarok with the Nordic Union in de facto alliance with NATO as it surely would be, then the Soviet bloc might not have nukes to spare for the Union on the first round of strikes, being preoccupied with taking out NATO targets mostly first. But the capitals would be dead meat in an all out war of course, quickly.

The Union doesn't need nukes; in such a war NATO would be sure to retaliate for them and to take the canal out of operation pronto, too.

Short of such war, no, there's no way to close the canal except maybe sabotage, which might easily blow up into the trigger of a general war anyhow.
From my writing point of view, it was one of the things I planned out in early stages as something that would help turn Danish focus away from the continent towards the Nordics again! :)
It's sure to have that effect.
PS: This is a rough non-canon knockup of occupation zones in Germany. It's been something I've pondered on the side, as obviously the state of Germany post-WWII will have knockon effects on European integration post-WWII, and thus will have butterflies for the Nordics in the later 20th century....

The caveat is understood and appreciated. Looks a lot less radical than I was thinking; I'd have to compare to OTL maps of the Germanies during the Cold War but it looks like basically East Germany is stretched a rather modest (if crucial) distance to the west in just the extreme north, and if the lavender area on the map in the south is the territory Stalin traded away for it it looks like a fairly even exchange.

Meanwhile it looks to me like the East German coast is shifted a bit to the west on its eastern end, Poland gets a bit more there and presumably loses some more to Russia farther east to compensate.

But it's still a conservative change, East Germany is still a buffer all the way down to the Czechoslovakian border. West Germany does have a coastline, a tiny one on the North Sea separating the far west of the Soviet zone from the Netherlands.

Still looks like a big win for Stalin, but not all that drastically different from OTL really.

I do think Churchill is going to be tut-tutting about it for the rest of his life though.
 

Devvy

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But he gets that too. I see Churchill arguing against it on the grounds that the Nordics are valuable allies to have, and FDR pointing out that they are neutrals in the current war. (He won't say that with a lot of venom, because OTL the cause of Finland was popular in the USA and the Scandinavian-American vote is a not inconsiderable bloc if he should go out of his way to annoy them).

Getting the whole Baltic coastline on the south without controlling the western outlet of the Canal would do Stalin no good of course.

True, as it stands, the Soviets don't control the southern side of the western entrance to the Kiel Canal (around Cuxhaven etc), but if they control the northern side then it'll be damn hard to legally or practically stop Soviet shipping going through the canal.

From FDR's PoV (and from my rudimentary understanding of US politics at the time), as it turns out the US wastes less. The purple/lavender area in the mock-up map (sorry for cutting out the key!) is the area that the US conquered, and then released to the Soviets as it was their occupation area. For FDR, he keeps control of more of the area that US lives died upon - surely slightly beneficial at home in the US. Also, FDR thinks Stalin "isn't that type of man", and trusts him more then Churchill does.

They didn't OTL, even with Denmark having NATO to back them up, but if someone wrote a timeline where this was done I'd hardly cry ASB on it. There would have to be a pretext but those aren't too hard to find.

Again I say, it will do him little good in a hot war, but he's probably counting on avoiding hot war as long as he can.

My take on Stalin and aggression is, it was both his nature and good Bolshevik doctrine to want to grab more, and to believe that in the end war between East and West was doomed. So, he was indeed always planning on fighting an actual all out war.

I agree that if it did eventually come to a hot war, then it would be of little use. From a Cold War mentality, it would be great as a means to bypass politics in other countries. Whether or not the Kiel is valuable later on, it's a better bet to annex then Thuringia. Churchill won't be particularly happy about it, but considering the state of the UK at the time, will have to live it. The UK thus keeps Heligoland (becomes a Crown Dependency on a par with Jersey/Guensey/Man I think) as a checkpoint on Soviet intentions in the area.

So it makes sense I guess to acquire the canal even though in event of war it will be destroyed, because in the interim of peace it gives him options and forecloses options the capitalists would otherwise have, like bottling him up in the Baltic by means short of war.

Pretty much my plan of the situation.

I was too lazy to go back and see how far back you've butterflied Danish history.:eek: But it's a good bet the Great Powers of the later 19th century on the Baltic (Britain, Prussia/German Reich, Russia) would all have the same unified demand on Denmark to stop trying to charge tolls. I gather your Nordic alliance is largely a thing of the 20th century anyway, by then the internationalization of the Straits is a done deal in just about any timeline but a Danishwank (or one where Denmark is ruled by some other superpower). It's not clear to me what the status of warships is supposed to be but I suppose international means international, any nation can sail its warships through the straits and Denmark is not supposed to stop them.

We both understand this goes by the board if Denmark is controlled by some major power in a serious war.

The PoD is only in the WWI, with the seeds of the Nordic Alliance born out of WWI, and the actual alliance born out of WWII (and aftermath of). Note that while ships may be allowed through, the actual navigable waters in Kattegat can be troublesome and I believe is riddled with reefs.

Here the only powers involved on the Baltic are either in the Union or Warsaw Pact (or whatever that latter is called here). So the western nations doing a volte face and deciding the straits are Danish internal waters after all, with the understanding that of course the Finns and Swedes can navigate them freely as Union members, might not be so unlikely. Except maybe the NATO powers would still frown on it because they want the legal right to sail through the Straits to challenge the Soviet bloc forces in the Baltic and are more than prepared to fight the Soviet forces trying to come out of the Straits--prepared to fight to the last Dane!;):eek: (Tossing nukes around such a narrow strait can't be healthy for the Danish economy.:rolleyes:)

Status quo is the way to bet and whichever power bloc the Union aligns with is the one that count on the Straits being open to them, and the Union can count on that bloc to help them hold it open--and close it to the other guys.

Not until international tensions are already very high though; in anything resembling normal peacetime the Russians will be able to get ships, civil and naval, through.
Well, at that close range, Nordic air forces ought to be enough to blast through and bomb the canal with conventional bombs, enough to ruin it for transit if they press the attack so the Soviets can't fix it up again during the war. But of course the Nordics will have worse things to worry about than attrition on that front if they get into a hot war with the Soviets and their allies. Like all their cities being nuked for instance.

Unless of course this war is a Ragnarok with the Nordic Union in de facto alliance with NATO as it surely would be, then the Soviet bloc might not have nukes to spare for the Union on the first round of strikes, being preoccupied with taking out NATO targets mostly first. But the capitals would be dead meat in an all out war of course, quickly.

The Union doesn't need nukes; in such a war NATO would be sure to retaliate for them and to take the canal out of operation pronto, too.

Short of such war, no, there's no way to close the canal except maybe sabotage, which might easily blow up into the trigger of a general war anyhow.

It's sure to have that effect.

As you say, international relations around the Oresund & Kiel etc etc could get messy. WWIII hasn't kicked off in this TL (like OTL!). But while Nordic-NATO relations are good, there's no question of the Nordics being within NATO. The Nordics are solidly neutral, and are intent to remain so at least while the Soviet Union is next door. After the Soviet Union falls, then the any reason to join NATO swiftly disappears as well.

OTL and ITTL there were US air bases on Iceland, and are still in Greenland. Both of those are part of the Nordic Federation here, but the air bases predate the federalisation. So, Nordic-NATO mutual understandings, but no defence partnerships or anything similar. From a Nordic point-of-view, the Nordic defence has served pretty well in WWII - it's resulted in a successful defence of Finland against the Soviet behemoth, and has discouraged German attacks into Denmark and Norway.

The caveat is understood and appreciated. Looks a lot less radical than I was thinking; I'd have to compare to OTL maps of the Germanies during the Cold War but it looks like basically East Germany is stretched a rather modest (if crucial) distance to the west in just the extreme north, and if the lavender area on the map in the south is the territory Stalin traded away for it it looks like a fairly even exchange.

Meanwhile it looks to me like the East German coast is shifted a bit to the west on its eastern end, Poland gets a bit more there and presumably loses some more to Russia farther east to compensate.

But it's still a conservative change, East Germany is still a buffer all the way down to the Czechoslovakian border. West Germany does have a coastline, a tiny one on the North Sea separating the far west of the Soviet zone from the Netherlands.

As ntoed at the top, the lavender/purple is the area in this TL that the US conquered/liberated, but then handed over control of to the Soviets as it was in their occupation zone. OTL, the lavender/purple area also included Thuringia - an area that is roughly the size of Holstein so I tit-for-tat'd them.

Still looks like a big win for Stalin, but not all that drastically different from OTL really.

I do think Churchill is going to be tut-tutting about it for the rest of his life though.

Yep, Churchill will be tutting about it, but thankfully it won't have major ramifications. I'm writing this TL from the present day in it, so evidently there's no heating of the Cold War (phew!) - the Nordics just get to sit happily by the side. I kinda started out planning this as a how would modern day Europe look if the Nordics has linked up, and I like the idea of a united Nordics being able to politically throw their weight around inside a potential EU of sorts! :)
 

ingemann

Banned
I like the update, but I have a few thoughts on the consequences.
First I can why Stalin keep Rendsburg county, and I agree.
Some thoughts the Rendsburg area today have around 130K people around 10% vote SSW (the Danish party). So even today we have a small Danish minority in the area.
I can see two different developments from there. GDR historical adopted quite progressive minority policies seen in their treatment of the Sorbian minority. This was to large extent a way to make the eastern regime distinct from the western and the former ones. So we may see the same here. On the other hand Sorbians was never a potential danger against the regime (as they had no wish to join Poland or CZ), the Danish minority on the other hand has attempted to join Denmark, and they could be seen as potential danger or fifth column.
So we have two different scenarios here. GDR adopt a policy of minority protection toward the Danish minority or they decide to oppress them into obscurity. The latter scenario beside alienate Denmark will have little effect beside the Danish minority disappearing. So I will mostly focus on the former scenario.
If GDR decide they are better off embracing the minority, we will likely see the minority surviving as around 20-40% of the population in the county. The high procent are caused by several factor, one is that in the early post-War years before GDR close its borders, the members of the minority receive relief from Denmark (as we saw in our history), but also because they can see how much their neighbours north of the border do. GDR and Denmark will likely reach a similar agreement as FRD and Denmark reached with Copenhagen-Bonn Declaration in 1955 for minority protection. Through this treaty will likely be part of some other deals too like railroads from Denmark to Hamburg (with no stops in Holstein), and Denmark writing off debt from the former regime. FDR will likely adopt this agreement when the reunification comes along. Of course we will also see some of the minority emigrate after the reunification, but as Holstein will likely do well in the after match, it will likely be a limited number of people (Holstein will do well, because Germany and the Nordic states will invest heavily in the local infrastructure, so transport between the two markets becomes cheaper).

As for Holstein we will likely see a few developments. Holstein will likely be cut into two bezirke (districts) with the East German administrative reform in 1952. The split will likely go from Hamburgs northern top to coast just south of Kiel. As all bezirke they will be named after the administrative centre (Kiel and Lübeck). Of course they will be reunified in 1990 again as the other East German states.
In Holstein we will likely see a different development, the Hamburg suburbs will be moribund and slowly depopulate, on the other hand the USSR and GDR will likely set up naval bases in Dithmarchen and Brunsbüttel will likely become home to major shipyard industry, so the town will explode in size.

As for Helgoland, the island was evacuated in 1945, and the population transferred to Sylt (in Schleswig), and was only allowed back in 1952, when Germany got the island back.
It do raise some problems in the after match of the War. This population want to go home, but the English forbid it, if they lived in Germany it would be no problem, but suddenly Denmark have a bunch of Frisian refugees, whose homeland is occupied by UK, it put this group in a limbo, as the Danes in general treat the Frisians as a semi-Danish group. So UK will either reach a agreement where the Helgoland Frisians either return home, are transferred to Germany or given Danish citizenship.
As the last two will have little consequences except Helgoland being a empty isle, I will focus on the first.
If the Frisians return Helgoland will turn into a northern version of Jersey, of course without the German tourism industry and the connection to Germany the island will likely develop quite different. For one thing Düne will likely be connected to Helgoland through a dike, and much of low water area around the islands will likely be reclaimed, so Hlgoland will likely have a bigger population, but it will also be bigger.

As for Thuringia under West German rule it will likely turn into another Hesse.
 

Devvy

Donor
Arriving into Copenhagen via Linx Express from Flensborg

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A snowy scene in Copenhagen

Copenhagen is the capital of Denmark (formally the "Kingdom of Denmark"), and the seat of the national Parliament, the Folketinget. The country is officially ruled by Queen Margarethe II as the symbol of national unity, but ever since the Easter Crisis of 1920 the country has been formally governed by the Folketinget (and the Lanstinget, which, prior to 1951, was the Danish Parliament's second chamber).

Following the devastation across Europe after the Second World War, Denmark (like the rest of the Nordic countries) was in the enviable position of being little affected. The city grew substantially in the post-war years, with a number of German immigrants from the newly regained Slesvig territory. The Danish Government rapidly decided to plan for the long-term future of Copenhagen, and released their "Five Finger Plan", to stimulate and encourage growth and housing along several lines where ample infrastructure such as commuter railways and motorways would be constructed. This has led to the current layout of Copenhagen, with the city centre at the middle of several radial lines of settlement spreading out.

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The five finger plan for Copenhagen

Copenhagen also was the place where the "Treaty of Copenhagen" was signed in 1950, between Denmark, Finland, Norway & Sweden. These four nations clubbed together to form a new "Nordic Council", following the recommendations of the Nordic Committee for Economic Cooperation, which studied opportunities for expanding Nordic co-operation. Following the end of the Second World War, and the cutting of land connections with Western Europe (as the Soviet aligned German Democratic Republic lay between Denmark and western-aligned Federal Republic of Germany), Danish trade focus has turned away from Europe and very much re-orientated towards Nordic and British markets. The rest of the Scandinavia lay significantly north of Denmark, with much less fertile farming land, which offered Denmark a rather unique position with regards to several agricultural markets. Denmark became highly interested in lowering barriers between the Nordic nations, and increasing co-operation.

It is also heavily linked with the formation of the "Nordic Defence Alliance" (which later became shortened to "Nordic Alliance"), which was the legal alliance of the Nordic nations in a communal defence effort, and the formalising of the de facto mutual defence alliance that existed for the previous few decades. It effectively bound the countries together to co-operate in the areas of foreign affairs (particularly towards the Soviet Union and the rest of Europe due to the two World Wars), and guaranteed a joint defence of all territory of the signatories.

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The Nordic flags of the original signatories of the Treaty of Copenhagen - Iceland joined later on

Early efforts of the Nordic Council revolved around the standardisation of many technical standards (from the small, such as electricity plugs and sockets, to the large, such as railway standards for pan-Nordic operations), which played into the second early role of the Nordic Council, which was to create a free travel area in the Nordics.

The free travel zone, which was named the "Nordic Passport Union", granted the Nordic citizens of the four signatories the right to travel for any reason (tourism, employment, business, relocation) to any other country, and was signed in 1952. This was an early quick win by the Nordic Council; it promoted pan-Nordicism and grew the "Nordic Identity" by allowing citizens to relocate to and go anywhere with the NPU. It allowed for Nordic citizens to be treated as locals in almost all regards, with the only proviso that all citizens must have an ID card or passport. Most ID checks were abolished on Nordic land borders; only ID checks remained on most ferry connections between Denmark and Sweden/Norway where other foreign ferry services would dock as well. Iceland would later sign the agreement in 1956, with full implementation by the end of the decade.

Although people relocating needed to register for social security and tax reasons in their new country, the Passport Union accomplished a great deal of labour mobility, allowing people to travel to wherever employment was offered, and helped further boost the Nordic economy which was capitalising on their good position with regards to the European economy.

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The other large innovation to affect Copenhagen was the Oresund Bridge. Opened in 2000, it was the first fixed link between Denmark and Sweden, opening the way for fast travel between Sweden (and Norway) and the rest of the European continent. It also had the effect of turning Malmo into a de facto Danish suburb of Copenhagen - something that has time and again proven to be a little thorn in Sweden's side - much to the amusement of Denmark. The latest joke was assigning Malmo a Danish postcode as a Copenhagen suburb rather then the Swedish one!

Side projects to the Oresund Bridge included the extension of the interstate "Linx" railways services into Denmark from Sweden (who previously ran other long-distance express services in Sweden & Norway), serving Copenhagen and Odense, and the extension of Denmark's Intercity services into Sweden serving short-medium range destinations (with those services also being integrated into the "Linx" network). The Copenhagen Metro system is also well connected into the cross-Oresund services, with the interchange at Copenhagen Airport (which due to the cross-Oresund links means that Copenhagen Airport also serves as the primary airport for Malmo and the much of Skane).

All this has been helped by significant grants from the Nordic Federal Government. As transport was one of it's first major powers, it has spent significant amounts of money on transportation projects to bind the country together.

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Linx Express services across Denmark and southern Sweden

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Notes: So little has changed for Copenhagen itself, until the opening of the Oresund Bridge. As travel was the first of the Nordic Union's realms of powers, and an understanding from the member states that large transport projects required them all to fund things together, there are several large projects that are primarily federally funded (remember the previous article on Kristiania and the airport!). The metro was built as a tunnelled heavy rail alignment instead, consuming the lines to Frederikssund and Farum, with a second tunnel from the Oresund Bridge running through Copenhagen station allowing express trains from Sweden to pass through Copenhagen to western Denmark without any need for reversing or bypassing the city.

Elsewhere, the Nordic Passport Union has come into effect, roughly as per OTL. In OTL though, this is pretty much as much as pan-Scandinavianism achieved - we'll see the Nordic Union continue on from this in this TL. The Nordic Council is also working to harmonise technical standards - anyone know when the Nordic countries adopted the Europlug standards? I can't find any info on this online! This has meant that by the time of the Oresund Bridge, rail standards between Denmark and Sweden are largely similar and compatible (sorry...I'm a train geek!). Some of you will notice the "Sonderborg station"....rather then the Fehmann fixed link that is proposed OTL, I've envisaged a second bridge/link between Faaborg and Sonderborg - shorter and cheaper, and domestically advantageous as well as speeding up links to Hamburg and Germany.

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Black is Copenhagen Metro
Red is Linx Express Route
 

Devvy

Donor
I'm going to retire this now rather then spending more time on it. I'm not happy with the format at all, although it was an interesting experiment.

And quite frankly, although I love the Nordics in real life.....there's just not enough to hold my interest in writing about it uniting!
 
Cool to learn that Denmark is slightly bigger than OTL!

OOC How integrated is the Norse block? From what I gather, somewhere more than EU level, but less than US level?

I still think covering the Scandinavian dispora would be cool, maybe toward the end. One odd fact is one of the few fertile grounds for modern Scandinavian unity are Scandinavian communities overseas - there are so few of us we've gotten used to grouping together!
 
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