Lands of the Monsters

Fotografia!

I did a little drawing of a Florida Cave Bear overlooking Viking Longboats.

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I am all for the Irish!

Though agreed I feel that it would take much more arrows.

All right, Irish!

I assume he drew his bow, not his sword, in the first place.

I'm still a little bit skeptical about killing a mammoth so easily, although after a rather gruesome internet search I find that it is apparently possible to kill an elephant with bow and arrow in the 20th century (I don't know if they're using metal-reinforced weapons though). So, I guess I'll accept this as an anecdote about a very experienced mammoth hunter.

I do, however, think that these anecdotes so far seem a little lonely: one man against one animal. Considering that elephants are herd animals, I would suspect that mammoths are as well. And considering how big the animal is, I would think that the hunter would need some assistance as well. If not the team of people needed to butcher it, additional archers shooting around the same time would make bringing it down much easier. Elephants are smart, and by extension mammoths probably were as well, so hunting them requires some wits.

I edited it. And Swan, I will get more sociable in these encounters.^^
 
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Seosamh O Deorain sailed under Viking sails, but with Irish blood. Clever Immigrants had figuredout in most ingenius way of avoiding unwanted attention from passing Viking ships: Make Replica Viking Sails and boats.

The Sea around Ireland and Scotland was hellish and rough, trial by fire for many Longboats. Those who escaped the grips of the Irish Sea still feared Viking ships off the coast of Britain. For those who used replica Viking boats and sails, it wasn't too hard of a journey compared to the hell face back in Ireland.

Seosamh and his wife, Maire stepped of the boats coming to The Nua Arainn. Many in Buadhach's Village heard tale of his flights of fancy to this far off land. It was much easier to purchase land and escape the Vikings here. Seosamh's brother, Marcus, helps his wife Madailien and their daughter, Iuidit of the boat. The Patriarch of the family, Seamus O Deorain had died out at sea. Uilliam, Seosamh and Marcus's brother had also passed away at sea. His son, Daibhi had proven to be resilient when his father perished.

Now the Family looked upon Nua Arainn, in the New lands od Tir Buadhach.
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Cavies and Degus dwelled on the fringes of the village. Coming from Te Henua to Roamaunga was a few monthes travel, but there was a lot of room. It was once thought there was enough room that Te Henua's population could easily be brought to Roamaunga and there would still be room for generations to come. In the high coastal regions, yes, but down on by the shore, there was competition for space.

Now, people were heading over the Mountains for yet more Elbow room. Those who survived the Perilous journey across the Andes were picked off by savage animals on the other side. Off course, none told the other travelers, whom would die in similar gory fashions, Nuimaunga was now rumoured to be a lair of demons and gods. The only option for growing Polynesians populations of Roamaunga was to spread south and north, along the coast and lower foothills.

There, they were shielded from the beasts that lurked on the other side of Nuimaunga...
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Bump. A bit more social, Okay Soweit?

Please, I am begging earnestly, send some help, I personally suck at writing accurate History, and I would like any help you could possibly give.
 
This is a pretty cool idea. One thing, though, that wasn't addressed-did only humans fail to cross from Siberia? If so, then the continent has big horn sheep and probably the species of bison that we're familiar with. If not, it may have long horned bison who have survived, but in lower numbers as the grass in North America changed after the last ice age to become tougher and harder to chew as it was more filled with silicates.

It would be the same with horses and camels-they exist on the Great Plains and in the deserts, but I imagine that they have smaller numbers and shorter lifespans than their Old World counterparts
 
This is a pretty cool idea. One thing, though, that wasn't addressed-did only humans fail to cross from Siberia? If so, then the continent has big horn sheep and probably the species of bison that we're familiar with. If not, it may have long horned bison who have survived, but in lower numbers as the grass in North America changed after the last ice age to become tougher and harder to chew as it was more filled with silicates.

It would be the same with horses and camels-they exist on the Great Plains and in the deserts, but I imagine that they have smaller numbers and shorter lifespans than their Old World counterparts

And don't forget my favorite of Ice Age Fauna: Wild Cavies!

Sorry there, I love Rodents. There is also likely a Coyote-Wank; the Extinct megamammals of the Americas 'regulated' grassland/forest territory. Signifigant parts east of the Mississipi that are forested in OTL will likely be grassland in TTL, same in parts of South-central Canada.
 
Polynesian Domestication

BUMPITY BUMP like Trashcan Man...

I feel I need to Ask:
Now that Polynesians are colonizing South America, do you think they could domesticate Cavies, Vicunas, Potatoes, or any other edible animals and plants?
Alternatively, will the Irish or Vikings do a Blitzkreig, or can they domesticate the Grey Fox, camels, horses, or other fauna in America?
 
BUMPITY BUMP like Trashcan Man...

I feel I need to Ask:
Now that Polynesians are colonizing South America, do you think they could domesticate Cavies, Vicunas, Potatoes, or any other edible animals and plants?
Alternatively, will the Irish or Vikings do a Blitzkreig, or can they domesticate the Grey Fox, camels, horses, or other fauna in America?

I think it depends a great deal on how long those things took to be domesticated in OTL. I'm assuming that this is a time period of only 500 years, so I would guess: for the plants, maybe (although not to the amount of variety as in OTL) but for the animals, unlikely (their generations are too long).

Also, keep in mind that the Polynesians had a few things which were already equivalent, so the question becomes whether they would want to. For example: if you already have domesticated taro, would you really care about trying to domesticate some wild potato species? Especially if that wild species didn't have much 'meat' on it to begin with. More likely, you'd try to create breeds of taro that would survive at higher latitudes and altitudes.

Edit: Sorry, that post was written too quickly.

The time period was 1000 years, but I still think that's on the short side for animals, and a lot of plants.

Also, I should mention that the Europeans also had equivalents which they don't need to duplicate, and which translate towards more variable conditions. I really doubt that they'll feel the need to domesticate any of the plants -- at least not to staple level (they might domesticate more niche stuff -- berries, some wild grasses, ornamental trees and bushes). The wild relatives of our tomatoes, peppers, squash, beans, etc. were probably not as palatable as the food they already have (not to mention most of them grow far to the south of this area).

Here's more rampant speculation:

A lot of the other stuff, maize, beans, chocolate, etc, will be found as almost valueless in its wild form, except possibly for occasional scavenging. It's not like these things grow abundantly throughout the terrain: they share the landscape with hundreds to thousands of other plants within which they may hide. Newcomers will have to try hundreds of different plants before they find anything. Many of these plants are poisonous at worst, and at best merely bad-tasting. Some only show their beneficial nature if you hit upon the exact method for preparing them.

The Europeans will definitely not kill off the N.A. horse. More likely they'll breed it with their own horses (likely not intentionally) to create some new, more interesting breeds (this might reduce the prevalence of any genetic disorders common to these breeds, if there are any).

Camels depends on whether they survive until some culture which recognizes them arrives, and how close they are genetically to the Asian camels. The Northern Europeans will just see them as funny looking, rather disagreeable horses (the only images they'd have of them are poorly drawn medieval manuscript illustrations of animals which could just as well be as mythical as unicorns for all they know).

I don't see the grey fox being domesticated at all (they already had red foxes, and never domesticated them). There might be some new breeds of dogs coming from interaction with North American wolves and coyotes, but nothing that interesting.

They might discover the sugar maple, if the right people get around to it. People from the Baltic tap Birch trees for sap, so the technology was available.

Squash, etc. might be domesticated for the gourds at least.
 
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Bump.

Polynesia on The Amazon and Irish-American Isolation

With Polynesian colonization in full swing, some have begun to march into higher altitudes, slowly, but surely. Initially, Taro, Chicken, and Pigs failed to survive as well as their human counterparts.

But as with Guinea Pigs and Chinchillas in OTL[1], successive generations grown at increasingly higher altitudes lead to much more productive harvests at higher altitudes, off course, over several decades.
Eventually, reaching to and beyound the Andes, Polynesians discover the Headwaters of The Amazon River...

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Expansion of Both Firland and Tir Buadhach brought the Irish and Vikings into direct Continental competition. With sucessive Viking raids upon Tir Buadhach, Irish quickly fled away into the Hills of OTL Virginia.

Irish travel to and from Tir Buadhach ceased, and Vikings came to occupy the former Irish Colony. Vikings recaptured their monopoly upon America, or Firland.
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[1] In OTL, Cavies and Chinchillas suffered severe altitude sickness if they were brought directly from a mountain slope to a Pet store at sea level. Breeders bred every generation at successively lower altitudes until there were Happy Cavies and Chinchillas at Sea level.

Short Update, kind of quickly written. Next Post, I will focus upon the Impacts of American Supplies in Europe.
And, Thank You SwanStation.
 
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